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Friday, March 11, 2011

Re: [chottala.com] How many killed in Liberation war: How 3 lacs became 30 lacs after 10 March 1972



The language of AL Fascism.:Muzammel Huq, the government-appointed chairman of the microlender, emailed the article, "Yunusgate: If you can't convince, create confusion",
 
 
Grameen Bank chair's strange email


The Daily Star yesterday asked Muzammel to explain the reason for sending the mail far and wide when he is the chairman of an organisation that is now in trouble over the exit of its founder Prof Yunus.


Saturday March 12 2011 03:58:08 AM BDT


It is none other than the chairman of troubled Grameen Bank who is spreading by email a damning article on the organisation he is meant to hold together. (The Daily Star)

Muzammel Huq, the government-appointed chairman of the microlender, emailed the article, "Yunusgate: If you can't convince, create confusion", written by Nayeemul Islam Khan, editor of Bangla-language daily Amader Shomoy.

The article that puts Nobel laureate Muhammad Yunus and his Grameen Bank in a negative light was posted on bdnews24.com on March 7 apparently for a wider readership.

Speaking to The Daily Star, two recipients confirmed that they have received the article's link from Muzammel's email account.

In a post, a blogger questioned Muzammel's intention of sending the article to a wider mailing list which he found on social network site Facebook.

The list obtained by The Daily Star has 126 recipients including a former president and two ministers of Bangladesh; aid organisations, UN agencies, diplomatic missions and foundations at home and abroad; and bankers and senior company executives.

The Daily Star yesterday asked Muzammel to explain the reason for sending the mail far and wide when he is the chairman of an organisation that is now in trouble over the exit of its founder Prof Yunus.

"People should know different sides of a story and then decide what they should or should not do," Muzammel said.

Pressed to comment further over the phone, he snapped: "I won't discuss with you (The Daily Star correspondent) any contents of my personal emails and why I did so. Why should I tell you about my personal things?" Then he hung up.

Muzammel, one of Yunus' former deputies, has been a vocal critic of the microcredit pioneer, and the promotion of a former employee came as a surprise to many and gave clear signs at the time that the government would oust Grameen's founder.

In response to Muzammel's email, David Bornstein, author of The Price of a Dream: The Story of the Grameen Bank, said: "As a journalist who has written extensively about microcredit, and the author of a well known book on Grameen, I am very interested in all matters relating to the Bank.

"But the article is reminiscent of the kind of rant one hears from "birthers" in the United States who assert that President Obama was born in Kenya. The piece is a litany of innuendo and accusation -- most of which the reader is asked to take on sheer faith.

"But what is well known and substantiated is the fact that the government of Bangladesh is consistently ranked one of the most corrupt in the world. Billions in foreign aid have been siphoned off by the government at the highest levels. Grameen, on the other hand, has been an anomaly: a bank that does not sanction bribes, where people do not get jobs through patronage, where the money actually reaches the poor, and where borrowers do not renege on their loans and get off scot-free because of family connections."

 


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On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:12 PM, abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com> wrote:
Dr. Nurun Nabi's letter to Mike Van Dusen
 
To me Dr.Nurun Nabi has been a scholar and an honorable man until he wrote " You must stop this event which is a heinous design of the Bangladesh war criminals. You should allow to let people know the truth about Bangladesh war crimes which Ms Bose is trying to hide and protect the war criminals."
The term "henious" "design" " trying to hide" are clearly loaded words. Scholars try to avoid such terminalogies in their deliberations. Dr. Nabi's assertion is against a nonBangladeshi Hindu lady, the grand daughter of Subash Bose, a recognized Oxford scholar defending Pakistani war crimes is questionable.  Dr Nurun Nabi has a Ph. D. but I am not sure if it is in Sciences. But to the organizers of the event atleast from reading the above statement,by the Dr. it would remind them of the Bangladeshi mullahs who many years ago opposed Taslima Nasrin's defense of her book "Lajjah".In his letter the Dr. sounded more like a secular mullah,  I am sure, to the organizers the Dr. will be seen as a biased person not a scholar.
 
For the above reasons, my apprehension is that Dr. Nurun Nabi will not be accepted as a speaker. However, I must thank Dr.Nabi for offering his defence to our great liberation war history. Unfortunately, the outcome of the organizer's reply to him would also reveal wheather Dr. Nabi is a qualified person on this subject or not. If the organizers reply is a no, If that is the case, I hope Dr. Nabi's Bengali defenders wouldn't start blaming Mike Van Dusen, Bangladeshi "razakars, along with Mrs Bose defending the Pakistani genocide. I am sure the Dr. has already received a reply to his letter. For the record can we request Dr. Nabi to publish the reply he has received from the organizers of the conference?


On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Sirajul Haider <sirajulhaider@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dear Mr Helal,
 
I really appreciate your courageous declaration of the fact that the death of 30 lacs was very much exaggerated. You said that it was slip of tongue of Shaikh Mujib but the truth is it was not a slip of tongue by Sk Mujib since to his said it 3 million thinking 1 million= 1 lac, he did not know that 1 million is actually 10 lacs. When Sk Mujib said 3 million of death to foreign journalists to indicate actually 3 lacs 1 lac then 1 minister wanted correct him but other minister said since bongobondhu already uttered 3 million so no need to correct him since same will high light his poor knowledge numerology terms.   So from that 3 lacs became 3 millions= 30 lacks. Many people know this but  no one dares to speak out, if you say this then you will be termed a rajakar.
 
Siraj
 
 


saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com>
Cc: Khabor Dot Com <info@khabor.com>; Abba <hussain7192@rogers.com>; khabor@yahoogroups.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com; Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>; Mohammad Haque <ashraful_00@yahoo.com>; mr mahmud <mrmahmud71@yahoo.com>; Mohammed Sharfuddin <sharfuddinbd@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 00:32:33
Subject: [chottala.com] Re: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th

 

Dear Dr. Saiful khan:

 

Assalamualikum. Thank you for your response regarding my posting. You didn’t hurt my feelings as what you have said is nothing wrong from your point of view. And that's what civic people do to communicate with one another. I'm humbled to even communicate to a person like you or Dr. Nuran Nabi and many others in these forums who are way educated and accomplished than me. I take your criticism as a learning tool for being shaped as a mature human being.

 

As I mentioned earlier, I have outmost respect for the Freedom fighter on 1971. But I’m not sure, I can say the same thing about the honorable living Freedom fighters in 2011. I also expressed the similar feelings to my Father-in-law after seeing Felani’s hanging dead body on the wired fence.

 

You and I are extremely fortunate that we do not leave along the Bangladesh-India border fence. Imagine you daughter or sister killed like that hanged for hours. God forbid, that’s shouldn’t happen to any of us or even to our ill seekers.

 

I do not think I made the false accusation regarding the living Freedom fighters being mum with all the injustice Bangladesh is receiving over the last 39 years. Some of their inaction is louder than my word. However, you have all the rights to disagree with my assertion and I ask all the living Freedom fighter’s forgiveness for being ungrateful.

 

Your generation saw Pakistan as oppressor and you spoke loud about it as that was the right thing to do. Our generation is seeing India as the oppressor, and we are speaking about it. I do not have any hurt feeling towards the Indian people but the Indian authority who is humiliating us periodically. Well, I do not solely blame Indian authority either, but us, as we are the one who is letting them to dictate our lives by being divided and weak.

 

Dear Ms Farah and Mr.Anis:

 

Assalamualikum. Thanks for your response as well. I hope we realize that by being hateful to each others, we are completely destroying the future of Bangladesh. The sooner we realize it the better it is for us. We are a country of numerous prospects and our neighbors like India and China leading the way to be prosperous nations. All we have to do is just learn from them, how to be united when it come to national issues.

 

The other thing is haunting me is very sensitive to talk about.

Ok, let’s talk about it, as most of us in these forums are well-informed and may have the courage to discuss something enormously sensitive.

 

War Criminals:

We all want justice for the Pakistani Collaborators who slaughters innocent Bangalee’s ruthlessly. Then how about the justice for innocent Bihari’s who were also slaughtered by Bangalee’s! Why, no one is seeking justice for all the murders!

 

If I’m a JUST person, then, I should be JUST to all. Not, only to my family, friends, and well wishers. Right!!

Yes, there is no doubt in my mind that Bangalee’s were slaughtered thousands time more than Bihari’s by brutal Pakistani army and their Bangalee collaborators.

 

FYI, I’m not a Bihari origin but a Bangladeshi from both parental sides.

 

Thanks everyone for reading this long mail. And pls accept my sincerely apology if this mail hurt you in any way. As I said above, you have all the rights to disagree with whatever I said and allow me to understand if I got it all wrong.

 

Helal

--- On Thu, 3/10/11, md. saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com> wrote:


From: md. saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: alapon@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Helal Ahmed" <huahmed@yahoo.com>, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>, "Abba" <hussain7192@rogers.com>, khabor@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Nuran Nabi" <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 2:36 AM

Dear Bhai Helal CC Dean Dr. Nurun Nabi

I have read your email letter to Dr. Nurun Nabi.
We are proud of your father in law and father as we are proud of Dean Dr. Nurun Nabi.

Your assertion " What i don't understand is that in this forum, i do not see you or any other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or thousands of innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian border force" makes it clear that you have no real respect for the most invaluable contribution of our freedom fighters  of Bangladesh including your father or father in law.

How can you raise such an allegation like this ?

In one life time fighting or taking part in one freedom struggle or war of liberation is the most commemdable part of valour or patriotism.

Have you or I or most of our countrymen fought or got the chance to take part in a glorious war of emancipation?

Let us all be measured and balanced in our evaluation.

Please do not feel hurt by this comment of mine.


Dr. Md. Saiful Amin Khan

Retired Ambassador and Permanent Secretary of Bangladesh

London



On 9 March 2011 21:23, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Assalamualikum Dear Dr. Nuran Nabi.
 
My name is Helal Ahmed and i born in 1970. I’m very proud of you as a living Freedom fighter as I’m proud of my Father-in-law and late father. You and my Father-in-law faced the bullet in the forefront and my late father fought the war in a different way. I wish I was born at that time to do the same. I understand your sentiment towards 1971.
 
What i don't understand is that in this forum, i do not see you or any other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or thousands of innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian border force.
 
I guess you and some of the Freedom fighters fought the war against Pakistan not for Bangladesh. If you fought for Bangladesh, than i should have seen your anger against the Felani killer just the way you showed your anger towards Pakistani murderers.
 
Also, in our 1971 war, 3 million people didn’t die. The mentioned number was a slip of tongue by Bongobondhu. And people are Bangladesh can’t even talk about it as they might be labeled as Razakar. For the sake of new generation, it is your duty to tell the truth.
 
Pls accept my sincere apology if I hurt you with this mail. As a generation after 1970, I’m just tired of seeing Bangladeshis keep talking about old enemy and being mum of new enemy.
 
FYI, as you are, I also want the trial of 1971 war criminals. But I don’t think our neighboring country want this issue to be resolved as this the only way to keep Bangladesh divided and let us in fighting. See, people like you and me, living in different countries, from completely different generations, still wasting our time to argue over something which should have been solved 40 years ago.
 
I’m very much in doubt that current AL government will complete the trial. After the five long years, they will say they have to come back to power again to finish the trial.
 
Thanks in advance for your understanding.
 
Helal


--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Subject: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: alapon@yahoogroups.com, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:42 PM

 
I would appreciate if you post this in your group

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Subject: Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: mike.vandusen@wilsoncenter.org


Mr. Mike Van Dusen
Executive Vice President of the Woodrow Wilson Center for Internatio​nal Scholars
 
Dear Mr. Van Dusen,
 
It is with great dismay I tell you that you have organized an event with a controversial writer Sarmila Bose in the month of March which is the 40th  anniversary of the beginning of Bangladesh genocide 1971 where 3 million people were killed, 200 thousand women were raped, 10 million people were forced to become refugees to lead a sub-human life during 9 months of the war..
 
These crimes against humanity are well documented including a book by USA Consul General in Dhaka Late Mr. Archer Blood and a report by Late Senator Edward Kennedy.
 
Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15  is an insult to the victims of Bangladesh genocide.
 
I am a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh liberation war and a witness to the crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators.  I have written several books on Bangladesh liberation war. My latest book Bullets of '71- A Freedom Fighter's Story describes Bangladesh genocide committed by the Bangladesh war criminals. (See my website www.nurannabi.com to know more about Bangladesh genocide )
 
After 40 years, trial of the Bangladesh war criminals just has started. Since then Bangladesh war criminals and their supporters have started orchestrated campaign to misinform and mislead the world opinion regarding the extent of Bangladesh genocide. Sarmila Bose is a part of that grand scheme.
 
Sarmila Bose and others are promoting their hidden agenda in a very subtle way to protect the Bangladesh war criminals. Its irony that she is using organization like Woodrow Wilson Center in the USA capital to misguide the opinion maker.
 
You must stop this event which is a heinous design of the Bangladesh war criminals. You should allow to let people know the truth about Bangladesh war crimes which Ms Bose is trying to hide and protect the war criminals.
 
I am walling to present evidence for the crimes against humanity in Bangladesh in 1971 perpetrated by Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators based on my new book.
 
I would appreciate if you invite me to the event to counter Ms. Bose's misleading conclusion and allow me tell the truth to the audience. 
  
Looking forward to hearing from you.
 
Regards,
Nuran Nabi, PhD
Councilman of Plainsboro Township, NJ
and a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh Liberation war










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Re: [chottala.com] Re: [KHABOR] Re: The need for balanced and pragmatic views on all issues



 

Khondaker Muzammel Huq Newly Appointed Chairman of Grameen Bank
 
 
 
 

The language of AL Fascism.:Muzammel Huq, the government-appointed chairman of the microlender, emailed the article, "Yunusgate: If you can't convince, create confusion",

 
 
Grameen Bank chair's strange email


Saturday March 12 2011 03:58:08 AM BDT

It is none other than the chairman of troubled Grameen Bank who is spreading by email a damning article on the organisation he is meant to hold together. (The Daily Star)

Muzammel Huq, the government-appointed chairman of the microlender, emailed the article, "Yunusgate: If you can't convince, create confusion", written by Nayeemul Islam Khan, editor of Bangla-language daily Amader Shomoy.

The article that puts Nobel laureate Muhammad Yunus and his Grameen Bank in a negative light was posted on bdnews24.com on March 7 apparently for a wider readership.

Speaking to The Daily Star, two recipients confirmed that they have received the article's link from Muzammel's email account.

In a post, a blogger questioned Muzammel's intention of sending the article to a wider mailing list which he found on social network site Facebook.

The list obtained by The Daily Star has 126 recipients including a former president and two ministers of Bangladesh; aid organisations, UN agencies, diplomatic missions and foundations at home and abroad; and bankers and senior company executives.

The Daily Star yesterday asked Muzammel to explain the reason for sending the mail far and wide when he is the chairman of an organisation that is now in trouble over the exit of its founder Prof Yunus.

"People should know different sides of a story and then decide what they should or should not do," Muzammel said.

Pressed to comment further over the phone, he snapped: "I won't discuss with you (The Daily Star correspondent) any contents of my personal emails and why I did so. Why should I tell you about my personal things?" Then he hung up.

Muzammel, one of Yunus' former deputies, has been a vocal critic of the microcredit pioneer, and the promotion of a former employee came as a surprise to many and gave clear signs at the time that the government would oust Grameen's founder.

In response to Muzammel's email, David Bornstein, author of The Price of a Dream: The Story of the Grameen Bank, said: "As a journalist who has written extensively about microcredit, and the author of a well known book on Grameen, I am very interested in all matters relating to the Bank.

"But the article is reminiscent of the kind of rant one hears from "birthers" in the United States who assert that President Obama was born in Kenya. The piece is a litany of innuendo and accusation -- most of which the reader is asked to take on sheer faith.

"But what is well known and substantiated is the fact that the government of Bangladesh is consistently ranked one of the most corrupt in the world. Billions in foreign aid have been siphoned off by the government at the highest levels. Grameen, on the other hand, has been an anomaly: a bank that does not sanction bribes, where people do not get jobs through patronage, where the money actually reaches the poor, and where borrowers do not renege on their loans and get off scot-free because of family connections."



On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dear Mr. Zakaria:

 

Assalamualikum. I'm glad that you wrote to me. May Allah accept your effort and make this noble work a success. Outsourcing is a very complicated business and extremely challenging to land on. Some of us keep trying and may see some small scale success in the near future.

Anyhow, could you pls share your personal email and contact number with me. I would like to give you a call and see if we can brain storming something to help the kids acquire more computer skills.

Thnx.

Helal

huahmed@yahoo.com

 

--- On Thu, 3/10/11, Mohammad Zakaria <goufbd@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mohammad Zakaria <goufbd@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [KHABOR] Re: The need for balanced and pragmatic views on all issues
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Helal Ahmed" <huahmed@yahoo.com>, "md. saiful KHAN" <saifakhan01@gmail.com>, alapon@yahoogroups.com, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>, "Abba" <hussain7192@rogers.com>, chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Nuran Nabi" <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 11:18 PM

Hi This is Mohammad Zakaria Executive Director GonoGobeshona o Unnayan Foundation in Bangladesh..Reading this e.mail about outsourcing business in Bangladesh I felt like writing a few lines about a rural IT Project we r running.  Right now this is more about computer skill development of young men and women.Some of them lost their fisher father during that fateful sidr night while fishing in the sea.
I am wondering how to link their computer skills to future outsourcing and create jobs.
Best regard
Zakaria


On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dear Saif bhai:

 

Assalamualikum. I choose to address you as Saif bhai cause in your previous two responses you mentioned me as Helal Bhai. It feels much closer when someone addresses you as bhai. Though you are much elder to me, I'm flattered that you addressed me that way.

 

Hope you are not going to harm me after knowing my whereaboutsJ. I have been way from home since the beginning of 1996 but fortunate enough to go home on regular basis sometime twice a year. I moved to Canada from US in 2004 and currently residing in greater Toronto area (GTA). I earned an MBA degree from Chittagong University and a second one from Texas A&M - Commerce. My late father wondered how I managed to complete two MBA degrees without much study. I convinced him that it was His and my Mother's non-stop prayers helped me get through.

 

Though I left my country for better future (physically) but I'm always there through my soul. Bangladesh gave me so much that, at times, I feel ashamed for not being able to give anything back to Her. Currently I'm trying to establish IT outsourcing business with Bangladesh so that our next generation might have a better prospect ahead of them. If i fail, at least, i will be able tell myself that i tried.

 

I hope I shared enough to give you an idea about me. You may reach me at 647 828-3796 if you feel like yelling for arguing with a respected retired ambassador.

 

Thanks.

Helal

--- On Thu, 3/10/11, md. saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com> wrote:


From: md. saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com>
Subject: The need for balanced and pragmatic views on all issues
To: "Helal Ahmed" <huahmed@yahoo.com>
Cc: alapon@yahoogroups.com, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>, "Abba" <hussain7192@rogers.com>, khabor@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Nuran Nabi" <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 12:08 PM

Dear Bhai Helal

I have read your email response.

Thanks for your balanced response to my comment and observation.

But I think that you continue to remain unfair in your remarks on Dr. Nabi and freedom fighters.

Let us not be in real haste to reply back again to you. I hope to share some further thoughts on the overall issue next week.

I am a bit intrigued as to how long you are abroad and where are you based. So enlighten us further on this point later at your discretion and time convenient to you.


Saif Khan








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Re: [chottala.com] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th

Mr Alam
In 1971 was fighting war . During fighting war people were killed by either side And people who are supporters are blaming each other as killres right or wrong.
Can you tell after liberation of Bangladesh how many people were killed with out trial and still these killing people and looting property of the people are going on still making people poorest on destroying mill industries destroying share market to make people money less everything less by the so called libarating fighters and supporters?
Can you tell did India helped Bangladesh in 1971 to make people jobless business everything less on closing destroying mill industrie economy and demoralzing the character of the people of Bangladesh to drink indian made whisky dal?
People of East bengal as east pakistan were rulled by Pakistan only 24 years. But Bangladesh liberated with the help of India before 41 years during this 41 years any pakistani no comes here to kill any Bangladeshi but everyday armless Bangladesh are now being killed by Indian Border security forces when they want to cross the border to go India though they are not fighting against India.
Is it not more unhamanic barbaric act than the act of Paki Army??????

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--- On Thu, 10/3/11, Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
> Subject: [chottala.com] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Khobor" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, "notun Bangladesh" <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>
> Received: Thursday, 10 March, 2011, 10:39 PM
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> Mr. Helal
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> You have
> said:
>  
> "Pls accept
> my sincere apology if I hurt you with this
> mail."
>  
> Wah
> !!!!! What a pretention .....
>  
> You
> have already proved through your innuendeos who you are .....
> and
> where
> are you comming from ..... You tried your best to
> divert from the
> main
> thread
> (protest against Sarmila Bose ) by mixing up
> issues...
>  
> It is
> not an isolated phenomenon that you are now getting
> congratulatory salutes
> from
> well
> know quarters who masquerade themselves as
> patriots...........
> [Patriotism is the
> last refuge of a scoundrel .....]
>  
> The
> mass killing (genocide) and mass rape in 1971 was a official
> policy of the
> Pakistani
> occupation regime ... and those were one the worst
> genocide and
> mass-rape in human
> history ...... Do you want to white-wash the
> 1971-Pakistani
> attrocities by
> disputing the numbers .... Is that your tactics to
> absolve  the
> worst
> criminals, (Pakistani occupation regime and
> the accessories/collaborators 
> viz.
> Al-Bodor/-Razaker-Al-shams gangs) of their
> guilts?
>  
> Undoubtly, Sarmila
> Bose is a distortionist and falsifier of history
> ...
> She
> must be exposed and protested ....
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> In My
> Lai Massacre in Vietnam (1968) mass murder
> of unarmed
> 347â€"504   civilians.was conducted by an
> unit of the US Army.
> Pakistan Army has
> conducted thousands of My Lai Ty Massacre in
> Bangladesh during
> their occupation in 1971 as their official policy.. Most
> villages
> and
> towns of Bangladesh have
> witnessed those mass-murders &
> mass-rapes.....!!!!!
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> Syed
> Aslam
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> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011
> at 6:56 PM, anis.ahmed@netzero.com
> <anis.ahmed@netzero.net>
> wrote:
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> Mr.
> Helal Ahmed:
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> You're a real Bangladeshi. I
> salute you for your true feelings and courageous
> voice for Bangladesh and for the people of
> Bangladesh. My hats off for your logical
> expressions without any fear of dangers from near or short
> distant enemies.
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> Thanks,
>  
> Anis Ahmed, Maryland 
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> Assalamualikum
> Dear Dr. Nuran Nabi.
>  
> My
> name is Helal Ahmed and i born in 1970. I’m very
> proud of you as a living Freedom fighter as I’m proud
> of my Father-in-law and late father. You and my
> Father-in-law faced the bullet in the forefront and my
> late father fought the war in a different way. I wish I was
> born at that time to do the same. I understand your
> sentiment towards 1971.
>
>  
> What i
> don't understand is that in this forum, i do not see you
> or any other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or
> thousands of innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian
> border force.
>
>  
> I
> guess you and some of the Freedom fighters fought the war
> against Pakistan not for
> Bangladesh. If you fought
> for Bangladesh, than i should
> have seen your anger against the Felani killer just the way
> you showed your anger towards Pakistani
> murderers.
>
>  
> Also,
> in our 1971 war, 3 million people didn’t die. The
> mentioned number was a slip of tongue by Bongobondhu. And
> people are Bangladesh can’t even
> talk about it as they might be labeled as Razakar. For the
> sake of new generation, it is your duty to tell the
> truth.
>
>  
> Pls
> accept my sincere apology if I hurt you with this mail. As a
> generation after 1970, I’m just tired of seeing
> Bangladeshis keep talking about old enemy and being mum of
> new enemy.
>
>  
> FYI,
> as you are, I also want the trial of 1971 war criminals. But
> I don’t think our neighboring country want this issue
> to be resolved as this the only way to keep Bangladesh divided and let
> us in fighting. See, people like you and me, living in
> different countries, from completely different generations,
> still wasting our time to argue over something which should
> have been solved 40 years ago.
>
>  
> I’m very
> much in doubt that current AL government will
> complete the trial. After the five long years, they will say
> they have to come back to power again to finish the
> trial.
>
>  
> Thanks
> in advance for your understanding.
>  
> Helal
>
> --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book
> event on March 15th
>
> To: alapon@yahoogroups.com,
> "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>
> Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:42 PM
>
>
>
>  
>
> I would appreciate if you post this in your group
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
>
> Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM
> Subject: Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on
> March 15th
> To: mike.vandusen@wilsoncenter.org
>
>
>
>
> Mr. Mike Van Dusen
> Executive Vice President of the Woodrow Wilson Center
> for Internatio​nal Scholars
>  
> Dear Mr. Van Dusen,
>  
>
> It is with great dismay I tell you that you have
> organized an event with a controversial writer Sarmila Bose
> in the month of March which is the 40th  anniversary
> of the beginning of Bangladesh genocide 1971 where 3 million
> people were killed, 200 thousand women were raped, 10
> million people were forced to become refugees to lead a
> sub-human life during 9 months of the war..
>
>  
> These crimes against humanity are well
> documented including a book by USA Consul General in Dhaka
> Late Mr. Archer Blood and a report by Late Senator Edward
> Kennedy.
>  
> Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15  is an
> insult to the victims of Bangladesh genocide.
>  
> I am a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh liberation war
> and a witness to the crimes against humanity perpetrated by
> the Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators. 
> I have written several books on Bangladesh liberation war.
> My latest book Bullets of '71- A Freedom
> Fighter's Story describes Bangladesh genocide
> committed by the Bangladesh war criminals. (See my website
> www.nurannabi.com to
> know more about Bangladesh genocide )
>
>  
> After 40 years, trial of the Bangladesh war criminals
> just has started. Since then Bangladesh war criminals and
> their supporters have started orchestrated campaign to
> misinform and mislead the world opinion regarding the extent
> of Bangladesh genocide. Sarmila Bose is a part of that grand
> scheme.
>
>  
> Sarmila Bose and others are promoting
> their hidden agenda in a very subtle way to protect
> the Bangladesh war criminals. Its irony that she is using
> organization like Woodrow Wilson Center in the USA capital
> to misguide the opinion maker.
>
>  
> You must stop this event which is a heinous design of
> the Bangladesh war criminals. You should allow to let people
> know the truth about Bangladesh war crimes which Ms Bose is
> trying to hide and protect the war criminals.
>
>  
> I am walling to present evidence for the crimes
> against humanity in Bangladesh in 1971 perpetrated by
> Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators based on
> my new book.
>  
> I would appreciate if you invite me to the event to
> counter Ms. Bose's misleading conclusion and allow
> me tell the truth to the audience. 
>   
> Looking forward to hearing from you.
>  
> Regards,
> Nuran Nabi, PhD
> Councilman of Plainsboro Township, NJ
> and a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh Liberation
> war
> Tel: 609 529
> 5065
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: [chottala.com] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th



Dr. Nurun Nabi's letter to Mike Van Dusen
 
To me Dr.Nurun Nabi has been an honorable man until he wrote " You must stop this event which is a heinous design of the Bangladesh war criminals. You should allow to let people know the truth about Bangladesh war crimes which Ms Bose is trying to hide and protect the war criminals."
The term "henious" "design" " trying to hide" are clearly loaded words. Scholars try to avoid such terminalogies in their deliberations. Dr. Nabi's assertion is against a nonBangladeshi Hindu lady, the grand daughter of Subash Bose, a recognized Oxford scholar defending Pakistani war crimes is questionable.  Dr Nurun Nabi has a Ph. D. but I am not sure if it is in Sciences. But to the organizers of the event atleast from reading the above statement,by the Dr. it would remind them of the Bangladeshi mullahs who many years ago opposed Taslima Nasrin's defense of her book "Lajjah".In his letter the Dr. sounded more like a secular mullah,  I am sure, to the organizers the Dr. will be seen as a biased person not a scholar.
 
For the above reasons, my apprehension is that Dr. Nurun Nabi will not be accepted as a speaker. However, I must thank Dr.Nabi for offering his defence to our great liberation war history. Unfortunately, the outcome of the organizer's reply to him would also reveal wheather Dr. Nabi is a qualified person on this subject or not. If the organizers reply is a no, If that is the case, I hope Dr. Nabi's Bengali defenders wouldn't start blaming Mike Van Dusen, Bangladeshi "razakars, along with Mrs Bose defending the Pakistani genocide. I am sure the Dr. has already received a reply to his letter. For the record can we request Dr. Nabi to publish the reply he has received from the organizers of the conference?
 
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Syed_Aslam3 <syed.aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Dr. Abid Bahar wrote:
 
"Dr. Nurun Nabi with a Ph.D. is an honorable man but what he is doing to oppose Mrs Bose is both anti intellectual, naive and pro-Indian in nature."
 
As a matter of fact, in his letter to Mr. Mike Van Dusen
Executive Vice President of the Woodrow Wilson Center for Internatio​nal Scholars
Dr. Nurun Nabi wrote
 
" I am walling to present evidence for the crimes against humanity in Bangladesh in 1971 perpetrated by Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators based on my new book.
 
I would appreciate if you invite me to the event to counter Ms. Bose's misleading conclusion and allow me tell the truth to the audience. ..."
 
Where did Dr. Bahar find "anti intellectual, naive and pro-Indian"  bias in Dr. Nurun Nabi's
approach .....?
 
Dr. Nabi's request to refute Ms Sarmila Bose's aspersions against our Liberation War
face to face at the Woodrow Wilson Center is quite legitimate ....
 
As a matter of fact, Dr. Bahar has used argumentum ad hominem to
make his "points" against Dr. Nabi !!!!!!!!!!!....
 
Syed Aslam
 


 
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:24 AM, abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Honoring the Honorable
Abid Bahar
Dr. Nurun Nabi with a Ph.D. is an honorable man but what he is doing to oppose Mrs Bose is both anti intellectual, naive and pro-Indian in nature. Helal Ahamed and many of us like him want to know the facts about our war and we should have more debates to clear up confusions and help not the politicians like Hasina to write history.
This practice would help us to replace propaganda and fiction and also replace hero-worshipping, This practice in critical thinking could be dishonoring to Gaffor Chowdhury type of history writers who are like the "kuar Bang" as if the screaming frog in the well can shout but surely this practice wouldn't be dishonoring to our liberation war.. Mrs Bose is a recognized Oxford scholar, we should allow her give us her findings, even if we don't like it. The point is we should first agree to disagree with the opponent . In not having this quality we come close to fascism an attitude found both religious and secular ideological trends. The point is as a nation and us in the West we should learn to honor the honorable scholars like Bose (who to my knowledge is originally from West Bengal and is not a party propagandist).
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:56 PM, anis.ahmed@netzero.com <anis.ahmed@netzero.net> wrote:
 

Mr. Helal Ahmed:
 
You're a real Bangladeshi. I salute you for your true feelings and courageous voice for Bangladesh and for the people of Bangladesh. My hats off for your logical expressions without any fear of dangers from near or short distant enemies.
 
Thanks,
 
Anis Ahmed, Maryland 

 
Assalamualikum Dear Dr. Nuran Nabi.
 
My name is Helal Ahmed and i born in 1970. I'm very proud of you as a living Freedom fighter as I'm proud of my Father-in-law and late father. You and my Father-in-law faced the bullet in the forefront and my late father fought the war in a different way. I wish I was born at that time to do the same. I understand your sentiment towards 1971.
 
What i don't understand is that in this forum, i do not see you or any other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or thousands of innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian border force.
 
I guess you and some of the Freedom fighters fought the war against Pakistan not for Bangladesh. If you fought for Bangladesh, than i should have seen your anger against the Felani killer just the way you showed your anger towards Pakistani murderers.
 
Also, in our 1971 war, 3 million people didn't die. The mentioned number was a slip of tongue by Bongobondhu. And people are Bangladesh can't even talk about it as they might be labeled as Razakar. For the sake of new generation, it is your duty to tell the truth.
 
Pls accept my sincere apology if I hurt you with this mail. As a generation after 1970, I'm just tired of seeing Bangladeshis keep talking about old enemy and being mum of new enemy.
 
FYI, as you are, I also want the trial of 1971 war criminals. But I don't think our neighboring country want this issue to be resolved as this the only way to keep Bangladesh divided and let us in fighting. See, people like you and me, living in different countries, from completely different generations, still wasting our time to argue over something which should have been solved 40 years ago.
 
I'm very much in doubt that current AL government will complete the trial. After the five long years, they will say they have to come back to power again to finish the trial.
 
Thanks in advance for your understanding.
 
Helal


--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Subject: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: alapon@yahoogroups.com, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>

Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:42 PM

 
I would appreciate if you post this in your group
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Subject: Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To:
mike.vandusen@wilsoncenter.org


Mr. Mike Van Dusen
Executive Vice President of the Woodrow Wilson Center for Internatio​nal Scholars
 
Dear Mr. Van Dusen,
 
It is with great dismay I tell you that you have organized an event with a controversial writer Sarmila Bose in the month of March which is the 40th  anniversary of the beginning of Bangladesh genocide 1971 where 3 million people were killed, 200 thousand women were raped, 10 million people were forced to become refugees to lead a sub-human life during 9 months of the war..
 
These crimes against humanity are well documented including a book by USA Consul General in Dhaka Late Mr. Archer Blood and a report by Late Senator Edward Kennedy.
 
Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15  is an insult to the victims of Bangladesh genocide.
 
I am a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh liberation war and a witness to the crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators.  I have written several books on Bangladesh liberation war. My latest book Bullets of '71- A Freedom Fighter's Story describes Bangladesh genocide committed by the Bangladesh war criminals. (See my website www.nurannabi.com to know more about Bangladesh genocide )
 
After 40 years, trial of the Bangladesh war criminals just has started. Since then Bangladesh war criminals and their supporters have started orchestrated campaign to misinform and mislead the world opinion regarding the extent of Bangladesh genocide. Sarmila Bose is a part of that grand scheme.
 
Sarmila Bose and others are promoting their hidden agenda in a very subtle way to protect the Bangladesh war criminals. Its irony that she is using organization like Woodrow Wilson Center in the USA capital to misguide the opinion maker.
 
You must stop this event which is a heinous design of the Bangladesh war criminals. You should allow to let people know the truth about Bangladesh war crimes which Ms Bose is trying to hide and protect the war criminals.
 
I am walling to present evidence for the crimes against humanity in Bangladesh in 1971 perpetrated by Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators based on my new book.
 
I would appreciate if you invite me to the event to counter Ms. Bose's misleading conclusion and allow me tell the truth to the audience. 
  
Looking forward to hearing from you.
 
Regards,
Nuran Nabi, PhD
Councilman of Plainsboro Township, NJ
and a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh Liberation war

 



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We hope you will bring your children at the Embassy for drawing competition tomorrow. It will start at 10am and continue for 2 hours.

Extended deadline for sending essay is 15th of March. Please encourage your children to participate.

A flyer, detailing the program on the event, is attached. Winners of the competitions will receive attractive prizes.

I will be happy to attend queries.

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[chottala.com] Re: Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th

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Dear Mr. Nurun Nabi: 

To the best of my knowledge, a real Bangladeshi is meant citizen who demonstrates and acts, even sacrifice life for the interest of Bangladesh and/or to protect her (Bangladesh) from any enemy either from homegrown, domestic or external aggression or from any action or conspiracy of any citizen or foreign Government, regardless, India, Pakistan, China, etc. 

You're a Bangladeshi American and without any doubt you want to help any Bangladeshi in America which you can not do that while acting as a Council Member by ignoring the interest of other citizens of your constituency. As a Council Member you are under obligation to work for the interest of your every citizen equally to ensure that their lives and properties are safe from any kind of harm. Similar obligations apply to me while I'm acting as a Commissioner of the Governor's Commission in Maryland. 

In conclusion, same duties and obligations apply to any Bangladeshi while he or she claims or identifies as a Bangladeshi, either a born or naturalized citizen. Also, A real Bangladeshi is that person who acts or demonstrates these qualities (duties and obligations) without any fear or by surrendering sanctity of his or her motherland to any quarter. Please feel free to ask me any question if my above explanation does not meet your satisfaction. 

With regards, 

Anis Ahmed, Maryland

From: Nuran Nabi 
<nurannabi@gmail.com>

Mr. Anis Ahmed,

You have certified Mr. Helal as a true Bangladeshi. Please tell us who are not true Bangladeshi in this forum.

Regards,

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[chottala.com] How many killed in Liberation war: How 3 lacs became 30 lacs after 10 March 1972



The bottom line is that the Pakistan Army committed Genocide and Mass-rape in Bangladesd during 9 months of the occupation regime in 1971....
 
What is your main intention behind making such a fuss with the million vs lacs ?
Looks like the objective is to trivialize the sacrefice of our people and the attrocities
committed by the Pak Army.....
 
Even 30 thousand would have been a very great number ......The 1971 Genocide and mass-rape committed by the Pak Army's occupation regime was an official policy of the regime...
Jamaate Islami with it's armed gestapo wing Al-bodor was the most active accessory to these crimes against humanity and crimes against Bangladesh in 1971 .....

The Guinness Book of Records lists the Bangladesh Genocide as one of the top 5 genocides in the 20th century.
 
The genocide of 1971 was an official policy of the regime ......
On February 22, 1971 the generals in West Pakistan took a decision to crush the Awami League and its supporters. It was recognized from the first that a campaign of genocide would be necessary to eradicate the threat: "Kill three million of them," said President Yahya Khan at the February conference, "and the rest will eat out of our hands." (Robert Payne, Massacre [1972], p. 50.) On March 25 the genocide was launched. The university in Dacca (Dhaka) was attacked and students exterminated in their hundreds...........
[source: Massacre by Pierre Stephen Robert Payne, Publisher: Macmillan Pub Co (February 1973) ISBN-13: 978-0025952409 ]
 
The Mass-rape in 1971 Bangladesh was also an official policy of the regime ......
   The infamous General Niazi  shamelessly defended the rapists by declaring that: "You cannot expect a man to live, fight and die in East Pakistan and go to Jhelum for sex, would you?"
[source:  East Pakistan the end game by Brig. Abdurraḥmān Ṣiddīqī, 2004, Publisher: Oxford University Press ISBN 0195799933 ]
 
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Sirajul Haider <sirajulhaider@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dear Mr Helal,
 
I really appreciate your courageous declaration of the fact that the death of 30 lacs was very much exaggerated. You said that it was slip of tongue of Shaikh Mujib but the truth is it was not a slip of tongue by Sk Mujib since to his said it 3 million thinking 1 million= 1 lac, he did not know that 1 million is actually 10 lacs. When Sk Mujib said 3 million of death to foreign journalists to indicate actually 3 lacs 1 lac then 1 minister wanted correct him but other minister said since bongobondhu already uttered 3 million so no need to correct him since same will high light his poor knowledge numerology terms.   So from that 3 lacs became 3 millions= 30 lacks. Many people know this but  no one dares to speak out, if you say this then you will be termed a rajakar.
 
Siraj
 
 


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Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 00:32:33
Subject: [chottala.com] Re: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th

 

Dear Dr. Saiful khan:

 

Assalamualikum. Thank you for your response regarding my posting. You didn’t hurt my feelings as what you have said is nothing wrong from your point of view. And that's what civic people do to communicate with one another. I'm humbled to even communicate to a person like you or Dr. Nuran Nabi and many others in these forums who are way educated and accomplished than me. I take your criticism as a learning tool for being shaped as a mature human being.

 

As I mentioned earlier, I have outmost respect for the Freedom fighter on 1971. But I’m not sure, I can say the same thing about the honorable living Freedom fighters in 2011. I also expressed the similar feelings to my Father-in-law after seeing Felani’s hanging dead body on the wired fence.

 

You and I are extremely fortunate that we do not leave along the Bangladesh-India border fence. Imagine you daughter or sister killed like that hanged for hours. God forbid, that’s shouldn’t happen to any of us or even to our ill seekers.

 

I do not think I made the false accusation regarding the living Freedom fighters being mum with all the injustice Bangladesh is receiving over the last 39 years. Some of their inaction is louder than my word. However, you have all the rights to disagree with my assertion and I ask all the living Freedom fighter’s forgiveness for being ungrateful.

 

Your generation saw Pakistan as oppressor and you spoke loud about it as that was the right thing to do. Our generation is seeing India as the oppressor, and we are speaking about it. I do not have any hurt feeling towards the Indian people but the Indian authority who is humiliating us periodically. Well, I do not solely blame Indian authority either, but us, as we are the one who is letting them to dictate our lives by being divided and weak.

 

Dear Ms Farah and Mr.Anis:

 

Assalamualikum. Thanks for your response as well. I hope we realize that by being hateful to each others, we are completely destroying the future of Bangladesh. The sooner we realize it the better it is for us. We are a country of numerous prospects and our neighbors like India and China leading the way to be prosperous nations. All we have to do is just learn from them, how to be united when it come to national issues.

 

The other thing is haunting me is very sensitive to talk about.

Ok, let’s talk about it, as most of us in these forums are well-informed and may have the courage to discuss something enormously sensitive.

 

War Criminals:

We all want justice for the Pakistani Collaborators who slaughters innocent Bangalee’s ruthlessly. Then how about the justice for innocent Bihari’s who were also slaughtered by Bangalee’s! Why, no one is seeking justice for all the murders!

 

If I’m a JUST person, then, I should be JUST to all. Not, only to my family, friends, and well wishers. Right!!

Yes, there is no doubt in my mind that Bangalee’s were slaughtered thousands time more than Bihari’s by brutal Pakistani army and their Bangalee collaborators.

 

FYI, I’m not a Bihari origin but a Bangladeshi from both parental sides.

 

Thanks everyone for reading this long mail. And pls accept my sincerely apology if this mail hurt you in any way. As I said above, you have all the rights to disagree with whatever I said and allow me to understand if I got it all wrong.

 

Helal

--- On Thu, 3/10/11, md. saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com> wrote:


From: md. saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: alapon@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Helal Ahmed" <huahmed@yahoo.com>, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>, "Abba" <hussain7192@rogers.com>, khabor@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Nuran Nabi" <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 2:36 AM

Dear Bhai Helal CC Dean Dr. Nurun Nabi

I have read your email letter to Dr. Nurun Nabi.
We are proud of your father in law and father as we are proud of Dean Dr. Nurun Nabi.

Your assertion " What i don't understand is that in this forum, i do not see you or any other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or thousands of innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian border force" makes it clear that you have no real respect for the most invaluable contribution of our freedom fighters  of Bangladesh including your father or father in law.

How can you raise such an allegation like this ?

In one life time fighting or taking part in one freedom struggle or war of liberation is the most commemdable part of valour or patriotism.

Have you or I or most of our countrymen fought or got the chance to take part in a glorious war of emancipation?

Let us all be measured and balanced in our evaluation.

Please do not feel hurt by this comment of mine.


Dr. Md. Saiful Amin Khan

Retired Ambassador and Permanent Secretary of Bangladesh

London



On 9 March 2011 21:23, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Assalamualikum Dear Dr. Nuran Nabi.
 
My name is Helal Ahmed and i born in 1970. I’m very proud of you as a living Freedom fighter as I’m proud of my Father-in-law and late father. You and my Father-in-law faced the bullet in the forefront and my late father fought the war in a different way. I wish I was born at that time to do the same. I understand your sentiment towards 1971.
 
What i don't understand is that in this forum, i do not see you or any other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or thousands of innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian border force.
 
I guess you and some of the Freedom fighters fought the war against Pakistan not for Bangladesh. If you fought for Bangladesh, than i should have seen your anger against the Felani killer just the way you showed your anger towards Pakistani murderers.
 
Also, in our 1971 war, 3 million people didn’t die. The mentioned number was a slip of tongue by Bongobondhu. And people are Bangladesh can’t even talk about it as they might be labeled as Razakar. For the sake of new generation, it is your duty to tell the truth.
 
Pls accept my sincere apology if I hurt you with this mail. As a generation after 1970, I’m just tired of seeing Bangladeshis keep talking about old enemy and being mum of new enemy.
 
FYI, as you are, I also want the trial of 1971 war criminals. But I don’t think our neighboring country want this issue to be resolved as this the only way to keep Bangladesh divided and let us in fighting. See, people like you and me, living in different countries, from completely different generations, still wasting our time to argue over something which should have been solved 40 years ago.
 
I’m very much in doubt that current AL government will complete the trial. After the five long years, they will say they have to come back to power again to finish the trial.
 
Thanks in advance for your understanding.
 
Helal


--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Subject: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: alapon@yahoogroups.com, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:42 PM

 
I would appreciate if you post this in your group

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Subject: Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: mike.vandusen@wilsoncenter.org


Mr. Mike Van Dusen
Executive Vice President of the Woodrow Wilson Center for Internatio​nal Scholars
 
Dear Mr. Van Dusen,
 
It is with great dismay I tell you that you have organized an event with a controversial writer Sarmila Bose in the month of March which is the 40th  anniversary of the beginning of Bangladesh genocide 1971 where 3 million people were killed, 200 thousand women were raped, 10 million people were forced to become refugees to lead a sub-human life during 9 months of the war..
 
These crimes against humanity are well documented including a book by USA Consul General in Dhaka Late Mr. Archer Blood and a report by Late Senator Edward Kennedy.
 
Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15  is an insult to the victims of Bangladesh genocide.
 
I am a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh liberation war and a witness to the crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators.  I have written several books on Bangladesh liberation war. My latest book Bullets of '71- A Freedom Fighter's Story describes Bangladesh genocide committed by the Bangladesh war criminals. (See my website www.nurannabi.com to know more about Bangladesh genocide )
 
After 40 years, trial of the Bangladesh war criminals just has started. Since then Bangladesh war criminals and their supporters have started orchestrated campaign to misinform and mislead the world opinion regarding the extent of Bangladesh genocide. Sarmila Bose is a part of that grand scheme.
 
Sarmila Bose and others are promoting their hidden agenda in a very subtle way to protect the Bangladesh war criminals. Its irony that she is using organization like Woodrow Wilson Center in the USA capital to misguide the opinion maker.
 
You must stop this event which is a heinous design of the Bangladesh war criminals. You should allow to let people know the truth about Bangladesh war crimes which Ms Bose is trying to hide and protect the war criminals.
 
I am walling to present evidence for the crimes against humanity in Bangladesh in 1971 perpetrated by Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators based on my new book.
 
I would appreciate if you invite me to the event to counter Ms. Bose's misleading conclusion and allow me tell the truth to the audience. 
  
Looking forward to hearing from you.
 
Regards,
Nuran Nabi, PhD
Councilman of Plainsboro Township, NJ
and a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh Liberation war









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