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Wednesday, July 22, 2009

Re: [chottala.com] Two nation theory whether based on Religion? or Language?



 
Mr. Dowllah
You are talking for revenging
I am asking for lawful administration based on justice of law for humanity & human right.
It is very clear though Pakistan was created based on the theory of 2 nations the cause is religion 
But historical causes of division were behind that reasons are still for continuing the problems in the subcontinent
Though Mr. Jinnah was blamed he was the responsible person for division of India logically it could not be said only Mr. Jinnah was responsible. 
He was the initial member of Congress later he joined to ML.
On analyzing it is clear that the historical backgrounds divisions of India are the main causes. Once on train travel Calcuta to Delhi I heard people in train gossiped that Urdu is language of Muslim & Hindi for Hindu.
So it is looked India has no language problem all other local languages people have taken Hindi their national language & Harmony of Geo Political cultural is there..
Though for Bengali language Bangladesh is liberated still in Bangladesh Bengali language is used only in domestic in drama in cinema & in political talking for illiterate people.
It can not be used for earning medical knowledge or engineering knowledge or technical knowledge or official & administrative knowledge even it is not used for prestigious talking & in religion prayer.
 
It is the Language limited in Rabindra & Nazrul Sangith now in Natak of Homayan Ahmed & fun of Naslima Nasrin.
No authority still is thinking or taking perfect action for making it a media of knowledge earning language. People think wasting of time for using this language.
However
Bangladesh Administration is needed to think how can be established lawful Administration & social justice for humanity & human right
 


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From: siraj@yahoo.com <siraj@yahoo.com>
Subject: [chottala.com] Two nation theory whether based on Religion? or Language?
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009, 7:49 PM

 

Dear dina khan,

Though it is difficult to make you realize the creation of Pakistan was on the basis of religion and not on language then what to do, let us forget about this. Now it is a fact whatever way you try to put your argument to place Urdu in Bengal nobody is going to accept it as the Bengalis hatefully reject these unwanted and disgraceful  proposal. Even after trial of M.A. Jinnah the people of Bengal reject it as there was already a separate Bengali language existing over there from before. The only way for these Biharis to move with their bag and baggage to some other place better to move in some places of African jungle where there is still no light of civilization or move to some other places and in this way by moving from place to place  a day may come when they will be successful in their mission to place their Urdu over there. This is the only way to try their luck. 

Dowllah.


 
Question is how to establish Lawful Administration & Social justice for humanity in Bangladesh?
To do trial against War Criminals of 1971 war for lawful Administration & Social Justice are needed to think for doing trial both sides criminals either he is Urdu speaker or Bengali speaker.
 
1971 war was fought to establishing in Bangladesh lawful administration for humanity & human right under the system of lawful democracy
Question is behind that what the reasons for this 1971 war are?
The main reason was created  due to the theory of 2 nations for division of India to create Pakistan & division of Bengal to create East Pakistan.
What the reason of Bengal division is?
It needs to think
Is it for Language or Religion?
If it is for Religion then
How would be called that Behari Muslims have no legal right to fight for their mother Language Urdu in East Pakistan?  According to the theory of 2 Nations East Pakistan became for Urdu & Bengali speakers.
Or if it is for Language then why is done division in Bengal.
But the reason behind that of the theory of 2 nations whether is it for Religions Hindu & Muslim or is it for languages Hindi & Urdu?
Urdu Speaker & Urdu language supporters who are criminals as well as Bengali speaker & Bengali language supporters who are Criminals both are needed to face lawful trial..
 


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From: siraj@yahoo. com <siraj@yahoo. com>
Subject: [chottala.com] Two nation theory whether based on Religion? or Language?
To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com
Received: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 8:34 PM

 

Dear dina khan - a regular writer in chottala yahoo groups,

In the debate about two nation theory it is based on whether language or Religon, I think there is some misconception and wrong idea.

M.A. Jinnah the iron man as you mentioned without uttering the name of three or four other iron men from Bengal  like H.S. Sohrawardy, Sher-E-Bangla A.K.Fazlul Hoque, Moulana Abdul Hamid Khan Bashani and many others  iron man who by their combined efforts and supports to M.A. Jinnah once became successful in bringing the unity of the Bengal Muslims in India by creating a religious sentiments in the minds of Muslim which ultimately results in the creation of Pakistan.

Except Muslims of Bengal there were no other Muslim majority area like Hyderabad, Junagar, Bihar, Kashmir including Frontier Province in Pakistan came forward to  support M.A. Jinnah to create a separate state for Mslims.  Look at Kashmir being a Muslim majority area in India trying for the last 61 years to come out from their grip but still not successful rather Kashmiris are suppressed and oppressed by the Indian soldiers for years together. 

What M.A. Jinnah did later on,  instead of showing his gratitude to Bengal, by forgetting what the Muslims of Bengal did, tried to push the knife over the back of our Bengal by introducing Urdu at the first instance. So "he is not correct" as you told.

There was no mention at all in the history, anyone from Bihar came forward to establish the interest of Muslims in India. No mention also in the history about taking any part by the Biharis in the creation of Pakistan. These Biharis neither can be a Pakistani (as evident in the several incidents in Karachi) nor can be a Bangladeshi. They are Biharis at heart  moving from one place to another with their selfish motivation and trouble making policy.   

The sentiment which our leaders were able to create in the minds of Muslims of Bengal on the basis of Islam, later on by a small sentence of M.A. Jinnah "state language should be Urdu" spoiled the whole show creating maximum hatreds for Urdu particularly in the minds of people of Bengal.

Though Islam is dearer to us as we are Muslims but our Bengali language is also dearest to us equally. How dare they are just like "Pagla Toglok"  to enforce a slumdog type of Urdu language of Bihar over our highly enriched cultural land of sophisticated Bengali language?

Religion made the Muslims of India to unite under the banner of one Islam to make a separate state of Muslims as Pakistan. Later on by raising the linguistic sentiments amongst the Bengalis by M.A. Jinnah in 1952, created a vigorous language movement in the then East Pakistan causing martyrs of Rafique, Salam, Jabbar, Barkat  and many others. That accelerated the division of a strong Pakistan in comparison to India into two in 1971 creating two separate weaker country like Bangladesh (Previous East Pakistan) and Pakistan (previous West Pakistan). Who is the actual gainer behind the scene? Our martyr's blood was not in vain. Because of the sacrifices of their blood we are now having a chance of taking a full breath of Bengali smell instead of slumdog smell of Biharis in our soil.

Urdu was not a rich language rather a cocktail of multiple languages of Indo-Pak-Bangla sub continent whereas Nobel Prize winning Bengali literature is a much more stronger and richer language spoken by about one forth of population (East and West Bengal) in united India. The Muslims of East Bengal separated from their fellow Bengali speaking Hindus of West Bengal on the sentiments of religions only and nothing else.

Who took the opportunity for the division of a strong Muslim country like Pakistan into two, making two weaker states in front of India. Whatever damage is there already done, now is it not wise to avoid the creation of further bitter sentiments by raising the trifling language issue again and again.

Who was the beneficiaries out of this? What is more preferable - Language or Religion? Two strong tigers after fighting when tired seeing helplessly a fox is taking away slowly their foods in front of their nose. 

Dowllah. 



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[chottala.com] Two nation theory whether based on Religion? or Language?



Dear dina khan,

Though it is difficult to make you realize the creation of Pakistan was on the basis of religion and not on language then what to do, let us forget about this. Now it is a fact whatever way you try to put your argument to place Urdu in Bengal nobody is going to accept it as the Bengalis hatefully reject these unwanted and disgraceful  proposal. Even after trial of M.A. Jinnah the people of Bengal reject it as there was already a separate Bengali language existing over there from before. The only way for these Biharis to move with their bag and baggage to some other place better to move in some places of African jungle where there is still no light of civilization or move to some other places and in this way by moving from place to place  a day may come when they will be successful in their mission to place their Urdu over there. This is the only way to try their luck. 

Dowllah.


 
Question is how to establish Lawful Administration & Social justice for humanity in Bangladesh?
To do trial against War Criminals of 1971 war for lawful Administration & Social Justice are needed to think for doing trial both sides criminals either he is Urdu speaker or Bengali speaker.
 

1971 war was fought to establishing in Bangladesh lawful administration for humanity & human right under the system of lawful democracy

Question is behind that what the reasons for this 1971 war are?

The main reason was created  due to the theory of 2 nations for division of India to create Pakistan & division of Bengal to create East Pakistan.

What the reason of Bengal division is?

It needs to think

Is it for Language or Religion?

If it is for Religion then

How would be called that Behari Muslims have no legal right to fight for their mother Language Urdu in East Pakistan?  According to the theory of 2 Nations East Pakistan became for Urdu & Bengali speakers.

Or if it is for Language then why is done division in Bengal.

But the reason behind that of the theory of 2 nations whether is it for Religions Hindu & Muslim or is it for languages Hindi & Urdu?

Urdu Speaker & Urdu language supporters who are criminals as well as Bengali speaker & Bengali language supporters who are Criminals both are needed to face lawful trial..

 


--- On Sun, 19/7/09, siraj@yahoo.com <siraj@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: siraj@yahoo.com <siraj@yahoo.com>
Subject: [chottala.com] Two nation theory whether based on Religion? or Language?
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 8:34 PM

 

Dear dina khan - a regular writer in chottala yahoo groups,

In the debate about two nation theory it is based on whether language or Religon, I think there is some misconception and wrong idea.

M.A. Jinnah the iron man as you mentioned without uttering the name of three or four other iron men from Bengal  like H.S. Sohrawardy, Sher-E-Bangla A.K.Fazlul Hoque, Moulana Abdul Hamid Khan Bashani and many others  iron man who by their combined efforts and supports to M.A. Jinnah once became successful in bringing the unity of the Bengal Muslims in India by creating a religious sentiments in the minds of Muslim which ultimately results in the creation of Pakistan.

Except Muslims of Bengal there were no other Muslim majority area like Hyderabad, Junagar, Bihar, Kashmir including Frontier Province in Pakistan came forward to  support M.A. Jinnah to create a separate state for Mslims.  Look at Kashmir being a Muslim majority area in India trying for the last 61 years to come out from their grip but still not successful rather Kashmiris are suppressed and oppressed by the Indian soldiers for years together. 

What M.A. Jinnah did later on,  instead of showing his gratitude to Bengal, by forgetting what the Muslims of Bengal did, tried to push the knife over the back of our Bengal by introducing Urdu at the first instance. So "he is not correct" as you told.

There was no mention at all in the history, anyone from Bihar came forward to establish the interest of Muslims in India. No mention also in the history about taking any part by the Biharis in the creation of Pakistan. These Biharis neither can be a Pakistani (as evident in the several incidents in Karachi) nor can be a Bangladeshi. They are Biharis at heart  moving from one place to another with their selfish motivation and trouble making policy.   

The sentiment which our leaders were able to create in the minds of Muslims of Bengal on the basis of Islam, later on by a small sentence of M.A. Jinnah "state language should be Urdu" spoiled the whole show creating maximum hatreds for Urdu particularly in the minds of people of Bengal.

Though Islam is dearer to us as we are Muslims but our Bengali language is also dearest to us equally. How dare they are just like "Pagla Toglok"  to enforce a slumdog type of Urdu language of Bihar over our highly enriched cultural land of sophisticated Bengali language?

Religion made the Muslims of India to unite under the banner of one Islam to make a separate state of Muslims as Pakistan. Later on by raising the linguistic sentiments amongst the Bengalis by M.A. Jinnah in 1952, created a vigorous language movement in the then East Pakistan causing martyrs of Rafique, Salam, Jabbar, Barkat  and many others. That accelerated the division of a strong Pakistan in comparison to India into two in 1971 creating two separate weaker country like Bangladesh (Previous East Pakistan) and Pakistan (previous West Pakistan). Who is the actual gainer behind the scene? Our martyr's blood was not in vain. Because of the sacrifices of their blood we are now having a chance of taking a full breath of Bengali smell instead of slumdog smell of Biharis in our soil.

Urdu was not a rich language rather a cocktail of multiple languages of Indo-Pak-Bangla sub continent whereas Nobel Prize winning Bengali literature is a much more stronger and richer language spoken by about one forth of population (East and West Bengal) in united India. The Muslims of East Bengal separated from their fellow Bengali speaking Hindus of West Bengal on the sentiments of religions only and nothing else.

Who took the opportunity for the division of a strong Muslim country like Pakistan into two, making two weaker states in front of India. Whatever damage is there already done, now is it not wise to avoid the creation of further bitter sentiments by raising the trifling language issue again and again.

Who was the beneficiaries out of this? What is more preferable - Language or Religion? Two strong tigers after fighting when tired seeing helplessly a fox is taking away slowly their foods in front of their nose. 

Dowllah. 



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[chottala.com] BB to roll out 5 year plan in Jan




 Bangladesh Bank is preparing its first-ever long-term plan to revitalise the stagnant banking sector, central bank governor Atiur Rahman said on Tuesday. 

"A five-year strategic plan will lift the sector through consistent monetary policy, greater automation, increasing manpower skills, reducing lending rates and, overall, finding the proper approach for banks to contribute more to the growth of the economy," Rahman told bdnews24.com. 

Customer service development will be highlighted with incentives for banks will be motivated to accept many new products. 

"The dream of a modern banking sector will be the focus of the plan and we are hopeful of its success," he said. 

"This sort of five-year planning is going to be introduced for the first time in the banking sector," he said. 

The plan will be finalised after discussions with the chiefs of public, private, special and foreign banks operating in the country. 

"The process is already underway," Rahman added. 

He said the plan would be announced formally in January next year and will serve in two ways: for the banking sector as a whole and for the central bank. 

The governor said, "The five-year plan will take into consideration the present state of the sector and where we want to reach in future." 

Rahman was optimistic about future growth of the sector. "The banking sectors of many countries were affected due to the global economic recession. But we are still safe, which proves the current strength of our banking sector." 

He said governments in many countries were forced to bail out their banks. "Whereas banks in our country are giving assistance to the affected sectors," he said. 

Central bank officials had a meeting with chief executives of all banks on a planned Automated Clearing House earlier Tuesday. 

The primary discussions about the strategic plan were made in that meeting, said Rahman. 
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