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Thursday, January 31, 2008

[chottala.com] Israeli Officials: Musharraf Met Israel's defense minister Barak

Gen. Musharraf is a street smart man. He knows what
will benefit him. Through Israel he can hope to
consolidate US support to him. It is nothing unusual
or unexpected from Gen. Musharraf. Those who expected
otherwise do not live in the real world.
Salahuddin Ayubi
--- "Md. Aminul Islam" <aminul_islam_raj@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> very sad and unfortunate for the muslim world.
>
> Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
> Israeli Officials: Musharraf Met Barak By MATTI
> FRIEDMAN – 1 day ago
> JERUSALEM (AP) — Pakistan's president held a rare
> and secret meeting with Israel's defense minister in
> a Paris hotel last week, and the Iranian nuclear
> program figured high on the agenda, Israeli defense
> officials said Monday.
> The two states have no diplomatic ties, and their
> officials rarely meet. But Pakistani President
> Pervez Musharraf and Israeli Defense Minister Ehud
> Barak saw each other by chance at the Hotel Raphael
> in Paris on Jan. 22, where they both were staying,
> the officials said. They then held a scheduled
> 20-minute meeting the following day, the officials
> said.
> The defense officials spoke on condition of
> anonymity because Israel's Defense Ministry has not
> officially confirmed the meeting took place.
> Barak and Musharraf discussed the possibility that
> Iran would develop nuclear weapons, the Israeli
> officials said. Iran and Israel are bitter enemies,
> and Israel — along with the U.S. and much of the
> international community — is concerned that Iran's
> nuclear program is designed to produce weapons. Iran
> claims it intends to produce energy.
> Nuclear-armed Pakistan, which has close political
> and economic ties with Iran, has repeatedly said
> Iran has a right to develop nuclear technology for
> peaceful purposes and that the issue of Iran's
> nuclear plans must be resolved by diplomatic means.
> At the meeting, Barak also expressed concern that
> instability in Pakistan could put the country's
> nuclear arsenal in the hands of Muslim extremists,
> but Musharraf assured Barak that Pakistan's nuclear
> weapons were safe, the officials said.
> In Jerusalem, Barak spokesman Ronen Moshe would
> not comment.
> In Islamabad, Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammed
> Sadiq said Musharraf had a "chance" meeting with
> Barak in Paris.
> "The president was leaving and the defense
> minister of Israel entered the hotel lobby and it
> was a chance meeting," Sadiq told The Associated
> Press. "I am not aware of any second meeting."
> Pakistan is the only Muslim nuclear power. Israel
> will not confirm or deny that it is a nuclear power,
> but is widely reported to have the world's
> sixth-largest stockpile of nuclear weapons.
> Israel and Pakistan are key allies of the U.S.,
> and there have been indications of warming ties
> between them. In 2005, Israel's then-foreign
> minister, Silvan Shalom, met his Pakistani
> counterpart, Khursheed Kasuri, in Turkey, sparking
> protests from Islamic hard-liners in Pakistan.
> In September 2006, Musharraf said Pakistan's
> government would have to recognize Israel after an
> independent Palestinian state was established — but
> not before.
> "We cannot do something that sidelines us from the
> Muslim world," Musharraf said at the time.
> Associated Press Writer Sadaqat Jan reported from
> Islamabad, Pakistan.
>
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> CNN-IBN Israeli Officials: Musharraf Met Barak
> The Associated Press - Jan 28, 2008
> Barak and Musharraf discussed the possibility that
> Iran would develop nuclear weapons, the Israeli
> officials said. Iran and Israel are bitter enemies,
> ...
> UN readies 3rd round of Iran sanctions Jerusalem
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> AFP/File Photo: Israeli Defence Minister Ehud
> Barak speaks to the reporters as he leaves the
> Elysee Palace...
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[chottala.com] Is Bangladesh a Sovereign Nation?

Mr. Alamgir,
I will not blame the foreign missions,
rather our own politicians race with each other to get
the attention of these foreign missions as if they are
the boss of this country. Our journalists also act in
similar shameless and idiotic fashion. When you
yourself behave this way , you can not blame the
foreign high commissioners/Amabassordor poking their
nose in our internal affairs. Our criticism should be
directed towqards our shameless political leaders and
idotic nitwit journalists.
One thing that puzzles me is that why did
Sheikh Mujib dumped Tajuddin who had done an excellent
job during the liberation war in his absence. The
gossips that prevailed at the time on this issue is
not credible as I do not believe that the leader would
have taken such a drastic step against his long time
confidante and ssociate without any serious
differences between them. Tajuddin also had weakness
possibly as he did nt speak up against his unfair
dismissal. Does any one have any idea about this? I am
very curious to know.
Salahuddin Ayubi
--- Faruque Alamgir <faruquealamgir@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dear Mr. Prodhan and Mr. Asghar
>
> It is pity that we have sacrificed ocean of blood
> for our Bangladesh and snatched our independence
> from the marauder Pakis but in reality how far we
> were Sovereign ?
>
> This question haunted the sane and patriot since
> day one we found the domination(black teeth) of the
> friend and looter. They started annexing the
> disputed landmarks and put barrier on the way road
> of the "Chit Mahals" but our sole distributor, copy
> writer owner of the history of Muktijudhdha and the
> sole proprietor of our independence the party in
> power just after liberation was nothing but on
> lookers. By thus the first betrayal started with
> the Mukti Judhdha by the so-called proprietors.
>
> Slowly and gradually we almost became in disguise
> the "Korod' Rajjaya of the mighty neighbour. But
> people at large did not accept this type of
> unconditional surrender of sovereignty by
> "Bibhishons". They took their decision and got back
> the coveted Sovereignty. but conspiracies hatched
> from within and outside Bangladesh to subjugate
> it's people and the grab the economy by friends in
> guise of Development Partners.
>
> The most regretable act by the opposition BAL led
> by Hasina who wrote several letters and met
> personally the Kutnikis in Bangladesh and outside
> and complained about the affairs of our country.
> Shame and what a shame in the part of a daughter of
> a claimed great leader by not only undermining the
> sovereignty but also undermining the "Chetona" which
> calims to be the only torch bearer. Hasina and her
> chatukar BAL and nam sorboshsho 14 Dal's impotent
> leaders like meno,ino,jaku, rabu and the
> shoejan,shoejibi etc etc also followed the sauit
> thru personal meetings or attending parties in 5
> star hotels.
>
> Friends we have allowed the Crocodiles to swim
> thru the canal we dug so, now if they want to
> swallo us what we can do. I will blame all the
> succesive governments who miserably failed to steer
> country's dignity,sanctity and entity in the right
> track. This was due to lack political direction and
> their goal.They were busy with politics of
> destruction and busy with churi chiamari with
> friends and families.
>
> Another unfortunate part played by the "Jonogoner
> jonno kotha boley" Patrikas(News Papers). These
> criminals also applauded the unethical and
> unpatriotic acts of the thug politicians just
> because of political allegiance plus fund received
> from accross the border.
>
> Plus Diplomats from the so-called civilized
> country are completely devoid of diplomatic norms
> and violated the Geneva Accord of the modus
> operandi of the Diplomatic activities by mingling in
> the ointernal affairs of Bangladesh.
>
> They should be ashamed that how one their
> colleague, the Swiss Ambassador latey faced the the
> Press in Rajshahi.
> She,the Swiss Ambassador flatly refused to make
> any comments on the ongoing political scenario of
> Bangladesh terming this as Bangladesh's
> international affairs and no diplomat has any right
> to comments on this she said. Bravo Swiss
> Amabassador Bravo and thank you for teaching a right
> lesson to your colleague.
>
> But friends, whatever conspiracy hatched by the
> Jonogon Permik Chetonar Dal and others Pa Chata
> jibis and medias, we are sovereign and we will
> remain sovereign and for that we need to forge unity
> to counter these henious acts.
>
> Greetings to all Bangladeshis.
>
> Faruque Alamgir
>
> Musfique Prodhan <chena_kew@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It is a
> pleasure to see Md Asghar concentration on a subject
> matter which is important. What he have depicted
> about the foreign officials involvement in
> Bangladesh's internal matter is true indeed.
>
> What he might have overlooked is the way our
> political culture has been structured. Though we
> might feel 'delight' in calling the system as
> parliamentary democracy; matter of fact it is
> dynastic hierarchy disguised under democracy.
>
> When respect for opposing political view is
> difficult, when the political movement is aimed to
> raise to power only, when arson, looting and
> anarchism is a habitual normal political activism,
> when the corrupts reign; it is still a wonder
> about that country to exist as sovereign state.
>
> The unfortunate and unwanted dominance of partisan
> personals in the media, makes it impossible for non
> partisan views to be heard. Things got worse, when
> the media have started competing with other business
> institution in the rat race. Hence the voice of the
> millions are ignored.
>
> Since birth, Bangladesh have been governed by weak
> administrators ( with an exception of President
> Ziaur Rahman). Hence Bangladeshis have become an
> dependent nation with a sovereign status. The
> economy is primarily based on foreign remittance and
> export items, with the West in the center. In
> addition to that, each year a handsome amount of
> foreign aid is also necessary ( in form of debt) to
> run Bangladesh. Though insulting to our self
> dignity, we have no choice left but to practice on
> their "advices/suggestions" without crying foul.
>
> However, it is our morally corrupt politicians, who
> are solely responsible for literally inviting the
> foreign emissaries to get involved in our political
> arena. I believe Md Asghar is also aware of the
> presence of so called "The Tuesday Group" (consists
> of foreign diplomats) who play a decisive role in
> our political arena.
>
> India's negative attitude towards Bangladesh has
> earned her bad reputation among Bangladeshis. Hence
> any suggestions good or bad constitute to mistrust
> and create controversy.
>
> It is going to take enormous effort and massive
> change in political culture to clean the mess up
> which was created by our politicians in last 30+
> years. Since such goal is attained, we have to
> swallow our own pride and be the sovereign nation
> under covert occupation.
>
>
> Sincerely
>
>
> Musfique.
>
>
>
>
> msa40@aol.com wrote:
> Dear Moderator,
> Please post this write up. Thanks.
>
> Mohammad Asghar
>
> Is Bangladesh a Sovereign Nation?
> Mohammad Asghar
>
> I do not know of any other nation in which foreign
> Ambassadors and High Commissioners are as publicly
> active as those who are accredited to Bangladesh.
> Some examples:
>
> 1. When Awami League and Bangladesh Nationalist
> Party were at loggerheads on the appointment of a
> Chief Advisor of the Caretaker government, various
> emissaries from different nations descended on
> Bangladesh to help the feuding parties arrive at a
> consensus. The Secretary General of the Common
> Wealth was one of the foreign emissaries to have
> blessed Bangladesh with his presence on its soil
>
> His and other luminaries’ presence and
> involvement in the feud was not an interference in
> the internal affairs of Bangladesh!
>
> But when the Country Director of IMF complained
> against hartals, Mr. Saifur Rahman of BNP promptly
> threatened his expulsion from Bangladesh for his
> [unwanted interference] in what he termed to be the
> purely domestic affair of Bangladesh.
>
> 2. Foreign Ambassadors and High Commissioners are
> very generous while dispensing their advices to the
> government and the people of Bangladesh. Take, for
> instance, the role Mr. William Malam (!) played,
> while he was representing the United States in
> Bangladesh.
>
> After visiting the Chittagong Stock Exchange, he
> told the reporters: [Bangladesh, like Kuwait, is
> floating on oil. Its reserve of gas is
> inexhaustible, so Bangladeshis should not be
> worried about their future].
>
> The fact is: Bangladesh does not have a
> commercially
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[chottala.com] Iraq conflict has killed one million Iraqis: survey


Iraq conflict has killed one
million Iraqis: survey

Reuters/bdnews24.com . London

More than one million Iraqis have died as a result of the conflict in their country since the US-led invasion in 2003, according to research conducted by one of Britain's leading polling groups.
   The survey, conducted by Opinion Research Business with 2,414 adults in face-to-face interviews, found that 20 per cent of people had had at least one death in their household as a result of the conflict, rather than natural causes.
   The last complete census in Iraq conducted in 1997 found 4.05 million households in the country, a figure ORB used to calculate that approximately 1.03 million people had died as a result of the war, the researchers found.
   The margin of error in the survey, conducted in August and September 2007, was 1.7 per cent, giving a range of deaths of 946,258 to 1.12 million.
   ORB originally found that 1.2 million people had died, but decided to go back and conduct more research in rural areas to make the survey as comprehensive as possible and then came up with the revised figure.
   The research covered 15 of Iraq's 18 provinces. Those that not covered included two of Iraq's more volatile regions – Kerbala and Anbar – and the northern province of Arbil, where local authorities refused them a permit to work.
   Estimates of deaths in Iraq have been highly controversial in the past.
   Medical journal The Lancet published a peer-reviewed report in 2004 stating that there had been 100,000 more deaths than would normally be expected since the March 2003 invasion, kicking off a storm of protest.
   The widely watched web site Iraq Body Count currently estimates that between 80,699 and 88,126 people have died in the conflict, although its methodology and figures have also been questioned by US authorities and others.
   ORB, a non-government-funded group founded in 1994, conducts research for the private, public and voluntary sectors.
   The director of the group, Allan Hyde, said it had no objective other than to record as accurately as possible the number of deaths among the Iraqi population as a result of the invasion and ensuing conflict.




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Re: [chottala.com] To the Chief Adviser, Dr. Fakhruddin Ahmed

Dina Khan

Thank you very much for the 20 points. It is really
very important for our country. We must not forget
that a lot of changes will take place in future in
almost all areas so emphasis should be given on other
sectors too. We must improve to meet the future
challenges of the technological developments in
almost all sectors. All departmental heads must write
the answers of the following questions to CTG.

How can your area can develop with the present
resources at your disposal ?

What are your department's short term goal ?

What are your department's long term goals ?

After liberation history ( 1971 – 2007 ) tells us
that under any government whether it is BAL, BNP or
JP – the people of Bangladesh can't expect anything
what they have already offered (Corruptions in all
levels ) with the blessings of their leaders. Present
government proved to be the best as of now. Why not we
ask them for more reforms in terms of Technological
development . They should continue for the national
interest of Bangladesh but should go for the better
interest of the corrupt politicians of our land.

Anyway thank you for your constructive suggestions.
You are not like some of our Justice who were selected
by BAL,BNP or JP so they are trying to create
divisions among innocent people supporting the
criminals in jail. These justice are working against
the will of the general people rather their political
motive. These should be stopped for good for our
better future.

Mohammed Sobhan
Toronto
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CTG must need to continue for doing trial works CTG
can do good works before conducting election.
1. By reading net mails & hearing news's it seems that
there is no any honest politician in Bangladesh. The
so called politicians & supporters of politicians are
the Reamers. BAL. BNP & JP. Politicians are dishonest
inefficient CTG system Government is real great proof.

2. Reamers means Jamati ML & Paki minded people.
3. BAL means Hijakers hartal doers & short knowledge
people leaded by outsiders for breaking closing &
burning works.
4. BNP means Chur Moha Chur doing conspiracy for
power.
5. JP means Scaracher.

6. CTG can form educational advisor councils by
collecting from through out the country of well
educated experienced honest people for discussing to
make correct idea & plan for updating education system
& providing the people through out the country for
making them skilled in their respective working fields

7. So it needs for the present CTG to continue to stay
in power for providing nation wide quality education
to all
8. To create honest wise political leaders to lead the
country
9. To reform works in political party to contest in
election
10. To create honest creative law makers for making
rules & laws
11. To create foresighted wise skilled planers for
planning.
12. To create good efficient administrators to rule
the administration
13. To create perfect executors to execute the plan
14. To create creative builders to build the country
for saving people.
15. A register needs to be maintained for checking
whether are the University teachers coming at
University in time, are they taking classes in
regular time, are they giving teaching lessons to the
students with update preparation knowledge or not???
16. Actions should needs to be taken against the
teachers who are responsible to maintain academic
discipline & to provide update wise education to the
students so action should not be taken against the
students
17. This Present CTG must need to make a very strong
action team for investigating to take legal action
against the persons ( may be teachers or others) who
are destroying academic atmosphere in the education
area disturbing the students for getting proper update
quality education not taken regular classes not taken
examination in time by the so called learned Dr
teachers & created seasons jots in doing nasty
nonsense stupid uneducated quality less politics
(politricks) to damage the country by doing works of
breaking burning closing the industry business centers
for increasing price hiking of everything & creating
people's disasters.
18. CTG can form a business & industry advisor
councils to control the market prices with the
cooperation with all business men.
19. CTG can create many jobs centers for providing
jobs to the jobless people.
20. So CTG long lives & earns efficiency to rule the
country e


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[chottala.com] Re: [notun_bangladesh] NATO Genocide in Afghanistan - Jurist commentry

Hands of European colonian powers are stained with the
blood of Asians , Africans, Australians, indegenous
Americans in the past five hundred years and now they
are the civilised people of the world. Their
barbareous acts knew no limits. They are now trying to
continue same in the name of war against terror. In
the past 500 years it is the WASPs who had been the
greatest terrorists.
Hisotry needs to be rewritten highlighting the
crimes and atrocities that they perpetrated on
innocent people of the rest of the world.
Salahuddin Ayubi
--- Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:

> *NATO Genocide in Afghanistan*
>
> JURIST Contributing Editor Ali
> Khan<http://washburnlaw.edu/faculty/khan-ali.php>of
> Washburn
> University School of Law says that in the name of
> the "war of
> terror," NATO forces in Afghanistan are committing
> genocide by
> systematically hunting down and destroying the
> Taliban, a puritanical
> Islamic group, contrary to the terms of the
> Convention on the Prevention and
> Punishment of the Crime of Genocide...
> ------------------------------
>
> *S*loganeers, propagandists and politicians often
> use the word "genocide"
> in ways that the law does not permit. But rarely is
> the crime of genocide
> invoked when Western militaries murder Muslim
> groups. This essay argues that
> the internationally recognized crime of genocide
> applies to the intentional
> killings that NATO troops commit on a weekly basis
> in the poor villages and
> mute mountains of Afghanistan to destroy the
> Taliban, a puritanical Islamic
> group. NATO combat troops bombard and kill people in
> Taliban enclaves and
> meeting places. They also murder defenseless Afghan
> civilians. The
> dehumanized label of "Taliban" is used to cloak the
> nameless victims of NATO
> operations. Some political opposition to this
> practice is building in NATO
> countries, such as Canada, where calls are heard to
> withdraw troops from
> Afghanistan or divert them to non-combat tasks.
>
> *Dehumanization*
>
> In almost all NATO nations, the Taliban have been
> completely dehumanized — a
> historically-tested signal that perpetrators of the
> crime of genocide carry
> unmitigated intentions to eradicate the dehumanized
> group. Politicians, the
> armed forces, the media, and even the general public
> associate in the West
> the Taliban with irrational fanatics, intolerant
> fundamentalists, brutal
> assassins, beheaders of women, bearded extremists,
> and terrorists. This
> luminescent negativity paves the way for aggression,
> military operations,
> and genocide. Promoting the predatory doctrine of
> collective self-defense,
> killing the Taliban is celebrated as a legal virtue.
> To leave the Taliban in
> control of Afghanistan, says NATO, is to leave a
> haven for terrorism.
>
> A similar dehumanization took place in the 16th and
> 17th centuries when NATO
> precursors occupied the Americas to purloin land and
> resources. The killings
> of native inhabitants were extensive and heartless.
> Thomas Jefferson, the
> noble author of the Declaration of Independence,
> labeled Indians as
> "merciless savages." President Andrew Jackson
> pontificated: "What good man
> would prefer a country covered with forests and
> ranged by a few thousand
> savages to our extensive Republic, studded with
> cities, towns, and
> prosperous farms." Promoting the predatory doctrine
> of discovery, the United
> States Supreme Court later ratified the pilgrims'
> crimes, holding that
> "discovery gave an exclusive right to extinguish the
> Indian title (to land).
> ([T]he Indians were fierce savages...To leave them
> in possession of their
> country was to leave the country a wilderness."
>
> The predators have not changed their stripes a bit.
> They come, they
> demonize, they obliterate. They do all this in the
> name of superior
> civilization.
>
> *The Facts*
>
> The NATO website lists its killings in Afghanistan.
> These killings are also
> reported in the world media, often with a shameless
> tone of gratitude as if
> NATO forces are engaged in wiping out cannibals. In
> 2007 alone, NATO
> helicopters and precision guided munitions bombed
> and killed over six
> thousand "Taliban." Read the following recent
> attacks, which the NATO itself
> reports, and smell the scent of genocide:
>
> - On January 19, 2008, NATO launched a preemptive
> strike relying on
> "credible intelligence" that the Taliban were
> planning to mass on a NATO
> base. The attack killed two dozen "insurgents" in
> the Watapoor District of
> Kunar Province, though the exact number of
> casualties could not be confirmed
> because of the rough mountainous region. The
> world media reported that
> numerous civilians were killed and 25 bodies were
> buried in just one mass
> grave.
>
> - On January 12, 2008, NATO forces conducted what
> it calls a "precise
> strike" on a compound in Kapsia Province
> targeting Taliban leaders. NATO
> claimed that the civilians were cleared from the
> compound before the attack.
> The claim is absurd because any removal of
> civilians from the compound would
> have alerted the battle-hardened Taliban that an
> enemy attack was imminent.
>
> - On September 20, 2007, NATO forces launched
> "Operation Palk Wahel"
> to kill and remove the Taliban from an area in
> the Upper Gereshk Valley.
> Numerous civilians were killed. The evidence of
> the genocide was so obvious
> that NATO admitted that it "was unaware of
> civilians in the vicinity of the
> target and unfortunately it appears that a number
> of non-combatants were
> caught in the attack and killed."
>
> *The Law*
>
> The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of
> the Crime of Genocide
> (entered into force, 1951) is binding on all states
> including the 26 member
> states of NATO. The Genocide Convention is jus
> cogens, the law from which no
> derogation is allowed. It provides no exceptions for
> any nation or any
> organization of nations, such as the United Nations
> or NATO, to commit
> genocide. Nor does the Convention allow any
> exceptions to genocide "whether
> committed in time of peace or in time of war." Even
> traditional self-defense
> - let alone preemptive self-defense, a deceptive
> name for aggression -
> cannot be invoked to justify or excuse the crime of
> genocide.
>
> In murdering the Taliban, NATO armed forces
> systematically practice on a
> continual basis the crime of genocide that consists
> of three constituent
> elements - act, intent to destroy, and religious
> group. The crime, as
> defined in the Convention, is analyzed below:
>
> 1. Act. The Convention lists five acts, each of
> which qualifies as
> genocide. NATO forces in Afghanistan are
> committing three of the five acts.
> They are killing members of the Taliban. They are
> causing serious bodily
> harm to members of the Taliban. They are
> deliberately inflicting on the
> Taliban conditions of life calculated to bring
> about their physical
> destruction in whole or in part. Any of these
> three acts committed one time
> constitutes the crime of genocide. NATO combat
> troops have been committing,
> and continue to commit, these acts through
> multiple means and weapons.
>
> 2. Intent to Destroy. The crime of genocide is a
> crime of intent. It
> must be shown that NATO combat troops and the
> high command ordering these
> troops carry the requisite intent to destroy the
> Taliban. Mere negligent
> killings do not qualify as genocide. The
> statements of NATO's
> Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer and those
> of NATO spokesmen leave no
> doubt that the NATO conducts military operations
> to
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NATO Genocide in Afghanistan

JURIST Contributing Editor Ali Khan of Washburn University School of Law says that in the name of the "war of terror," NATO forces in Afghanistan are committing genocide by systematically hunting down and destroying the Taliban, a puritanical Islamic group, contrary to the terms of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide...


Sloganeers, propagandists and politicians often use the word "genocide" in ways that the law does not permit. But rarely is the crime of genocide invoked when Western militaries murder Muslim groups. This essay argues that the internationally recognized crime of genocide applies to the intentional killings that NATO troops commit on a weekly basis in the poor villages and mute mountains of Afghanistan to destroy the Taliban, a puritanical Islamic group. NATO combat troops bombard and kill people in Taliban enclaves and meeting places. They also murder defenseless Afghan civilians. The dehumanized label of "Taliban" is used to cloak the nameless victims of NATO operations. Some political opposition to this practice is building in NATO countries, such as Canada, where calls are heard to withdraw troops from Afghanistan or divert them to non-combat tasks.

Dehumanization

In almost all NATO nations, the Taliban have been completely dehumanized — a historically-tested signal that perpetrators of the crime of genocide carry unmitigated intentions to eradicate the dehumanized group. Politicians, the armed forces, the media, and even the general public associate in the West the Taliban with irrational fanatics, intolerant fundamentalists, brutal assassins, beheaders of women, bearded extremists, and terrorists. This luminescent negativity paves the way for aggression, military operations, and genocide. Promoting the predatory doctrine of collective self-defense, killing the Taliban is celebrated as a legal virtue. To leave the Taliban in control of Afghanistan, says NATO, is to leave a haven for terrorism.

A similar dehumanization took place in the 16th and 17th centuries when NATO precursors occupied the Americas to purloin land and resources. The killings of native inhabitants were extensive and heartless. Thomas Jefferson, the noble author of the Declaration of Independence, labeled Indians as "merciless savages." President Andrew Jackson pontificated: "What good man would prefer a country covered with forests and ranged by a few thousand savages to our extensive Republic, studded with cities, towns, and prosperous farms." Promoting the predatory doctrine of discovery, the United States Supreme Court later ratified the pilgrims' crimes, holding that "discovery gave an exclusive right to extinguish the Indian title (to land). ([T]he Indians were fierce savages...To leave them in possession of their country was to leave the country a wilderness."

The predators have not changed their stripes a bit. They come, they demonize, they obliterate. They do all this in the name of superior civilization.

The Facts

The NATO website lists its killings in Afghanistan. These killings are also reported in the world media, often with a shameless tone of gratitude as if NATO forces are engaged in wiping out cannibals. In 2007 alone, NATO helicopters and precision guided munitions bombed and killed over six thousand "Taliban." Read the following recent attacks, which the NATO itself reports, and smell the scent of genocide:
  • On January 19, 2008, NATO launched a preemptive strike relying on "credible intelligence" that the Taliban were planning to mass on a NATO base. The attack killed two dozen "insurgents" in the Watapoor District of Kunar Province, though the exact number of casualties could not be confirmed because of the rough mountainous region. The world media reported that numerous civilians were killed and 25 bodies were buried in just one mass grave.

  • On January 12, 2008, NATO forces conducted what it calls a "precise strike" on a compound in Kapsia Province targeting Taliban leaders. NATO claimed that the civilians were cleared from the compound before the attack. The claim is absurd because any removal of civilians from the compound would have alerted the battle-hardened Taliban that an enemy attack was imminent.

  • On September 20, 2007, NATO forces launched "Operation Palk Wahel" to kill and remove the Taliban from an area in the Upper Gereshk Valley. Numerous civilians were killed. The evidence of the genocide was so obvious that NATO admitted that it "was unaware of civilians in the vicinity of the target and unfortunately it appears that a number of non-combatants were caught in the attack and killed."
The Law

The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (entered into force, 1951) is binding on all states including the 26 member states of NATO. The Genocide Convention is jus cogens, the law from which no derogation is allowed. It provides no exceptions for any nation or any organization of nations, such as the United Nations or NATO, to commit genocide. Nor does the Convention allow any exceptions to genocide "whether committed in time of peace or in time of war." Even traditional self-defense - let alone preemptive self-defense, a deceptive name for aggression - cannot be invoked to justify or excuse the crime of genocide.

In murdering the Taliban, NATO armed forces systematically practice on a continual basis the crime of genocide that consists of three constituent elements - act, intent to destroy, and religious group. The crime, as defined in the Convention, is analyzed below:
  1. Act. The Convention lists five acts, each of which qualifies as genocide. NATO forces in Afghanistan are committing three of the five acts. They are killing members of the Taliban. They are causing serious bodily harm to members of the Taliban. They are deliberately inflicting on the Taliban conditions of life calculated to bring about their physical destruction in whole or in part. Any of these three acts committed one time constitutes the crime of genocide. NATO combat troops have been committing, and continue to commit, these acts through multiple means and weapons.

  2. Intent to Destroy. The crime of genocide is a crime of intent. It must be shown that NATO combat troops and the high command ordering these troops carry the requisite intent to destroy the Taliban. Mere negligent killings do not qualify as genocide. The statements of NATO's Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer and those of NATO spokesmen leave no doubt that the NATO conducts military operations to "hunt and destroy" the Taliban. Preemptive strikes to kill the Taliban are sufficient proof that NATO troops and commanding generals have specific intent to destroy as many Taliban members as they can find. The weekly murderous planning and intelligence gathering to locate and eliminate the Taliban leaders and members further demonstrate that the killings in Afghanistan are not negligent, accidental, or by mistake. For all legal purposes, NATO's incessant and deliberate killings of the Taliban are powered with the specific intent to destroy a religious group.

  3. Religious Group. The Genocide Convention is far from universal in that it does not protect all groups from genocide. Its protection covers only four groups: national, ethnic, racial and religious. (Political groups are not protected). The Convention does not require the complete eradication of a protected group as a necessary condition for the crime of genocide. Even part destruction of a protected group constitutes the crime. It is no secret that the Taliban are a religious group. (They may also qualify as a national (Afghan) or ethnic (Pushtun) group). The Taliban advocate and practice a puritanical version of Islam. The Convention does not demand that the protected group advocate and practice a form of religion acceptable to the West or the world. The questionable beliefs and practices of a religious group are no reasons to destroy the group. That the Taliban are armed or support terrorism or oppress women are unlawful excuses to commit genocide. (All reasons that Hitler had to murder Jews would be simply irrelevant under the Convention).
The Holding

It may, therefore, be safely concluded that NATO combat troops and NATO commanders are engaged in murdering the Taliban, a protected group under the Genocide Convention, with the specific intent to physically and mentally destroy the group in whole or in part. This is the crime of genocide.



Ali Khan is a professor at Washburn University School of Law in Kansas. His publications are available here.


January 29, 2008

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Re: [chottala.com] To the Chief Adviser, Dr. Fakhruddin Ahmed

CTG must needs to continue for doing trial works CTG can do good works before conducting election.
  1. By reading net mails & hearing newses it seems that there is no any honest politician in Bangladesh. The so called politicians & supporters of politicians are the Razakers. BAL. BNP & JP. Politicians are dishonest inefficient CTG system Government is real great proof.
  2. Razakers means Jamati ML & Paki minded people.
  3. BAL means Hijakers hartal doers & short knowledge people leaded by outsiders for breaking closing & burning works.
  4. BNP means Chur Moha Chur doing conspiracy for power.
  5. JP means Scaracher.
 
  1. CTG can form educational advisor councils by collecting from through out the country of well educated experienced honest people for discussing to make correct idea & plan for updating education system & providing the people through out the country for making them skilled in their respective working fields
  2. So it needs for the present CTG to continue to stay in power for providing nation wide quality education to all
  3. To create honest wise political leaders to lead the country
  4. To reform works in political party to contest in election
  5. To create honest creative law makers for making rules & laws
  6. To create foresighted wise skilled planers for planning.
  7. To create good efficient administrators to rule the administration
  8. To create perfect executors to execute the plan
  9. To create creative builders to build the country for saving people. 
  10. A register needs to be maintained  for checking whether are the University teachers coming at University in time, are they  taking classes in regular time, are they giving teaching lessons to the students with update preparation knowledge or not???
  11. Actions should needs to be taken against the teachers who are responsible to maintain academic discipline & to provide update wise education to the students so action should not be taken against the students
  12. This Present CTG must need to make a very strong action team for investigating to take legal action against the persons ( may be teachers or others) who are destroying academic atmosphere in the education area disturbing the students for getting proper update quality education not taken regular classes not taken examination in time by the so called learned Dr teachers & created seasons jots in doing nasty nonsense stupid uneducated quality less politics (politricks) to damage the country by doing works of breaking burning closing the industry business centers for increasing price hiking of everything & creating people's disasters.
  13. CTG can form a business & industry advisor councils to control the market prices with the cooperation with all business men.
  14. CTG can create many jobs centers for providing jobs to the jobless people.
  15. So  CTG long lives & earns efficiency to rule the country efficiently.
 



innovation_line <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
To the Chief Adviser, Dr. Fakhruddin Ahmed
This message has been in the making for a long time. We were hoping that we would not have to send this out. The fact that this is published now, it should act as an alarm for your government.
 
A note to readers: If you agree with this message, please each one of you forward it to feeedback@pmo.gov.bd, so he knows how many people favours this. This is very important! 
 
A valid question or issue that can be raised is this - why did we change our position on the issue of trial of war criminals now  - whether it shoudl be done by the interim government, as opposed to our initial position of trying them by an elected government? We have touched on the issue in earlier occassions, but we did not really address the issue directly. Why change position in such an important issue and why risk embarrasing the current government whose capacity is alreay limited by a time bound roadmap and also, they have taken so many projects that it should be already too much for them. We agree. Still, we changed our position with a sane mind. Why? 
 
Frankly, changing our position on this issue has nothing to do with the issue itself. Surprised, huh?
 
Let us explain.
 
Just look around. There are many people who do not beleive that this issue will be addressed by the government who will be elected through the election for which your people are so on-work. Your promise of free and fair election in a level playing field. Yet, people still do not beleive that your project will be eventually successful. Why? It seems the perception is that the old faces will be coming back to form the government.
 
Not only the other people, your own government, including yourself, are part of the same public. You also do not beleive that there will be new political parties coming to power. It will be the same AL or BNP or their combination with other smaller evils. This is - even when - they have not changed their actions and words a tad.
 
The fact that you think they will be coming to power again is demonstrated through the words of your governemnt. You guys talk about why AL or BNP is not reforming themselves. Why do you care? If they want to keep the culprits on top, if they want to stay un-reformed or ill-formed, let them be. Shouldn't a level playing field ensure their defeat - if they do not reform? Can you see the logic? People are not stupid. People of Bangladesh never voted the wrong people - they always vote for the best choice at the time. The question is whether there will be alternative to traditional choices?
 
So, what is the problem? You can not achieve what you initially thought? At least, the body language suggests so. Or is it the fact that you plainly can not complete the project, the project definiiton was faulty given the resources? If you think its doable, why dont you talk about resources? Why not get people on board with what your thoughts are on this?
 
So, if that is the case, then why shouldn't we expect that you do at least one thing. Try those criminals. At least, you can do that. Changing a corruption economy is much more complex a problem than trying some criminals - specifically when that was done at the birth of the country. So, we thought. Do you see the logic that justifies change in our initial position on the issue? If you can not deliver the real thing, why dont you at least deliver this? Hope we have communicated our logic well so all know.
 
Lastly, as we do always, here are some problem solving.
 
Is there still any way to salvage the project? Yes, this is a great project of reconstruction to many of us Bangladeshis. That is why they have given you - an unelected government - to govern more than anybody could even think. We would be inclined to say that yes, there is still time to achieve the mission. We have written about it before. Let us repeat for the benefit of the readers.
 
You can not change nature of the politicians, with the resources you have (particularly less time). It is true. But you can change the dynamics of the socio-political structure. There are many ways to do that. Given the timeframe you have left, here is the most effective one.
 
There have always been a competition for the elected positions in various level of governance system (starting from UP member to MP). Many people vie for those posts. But so far, only the corrupt ones have gone for that. No serious people who are also honest have ever dreaded to compete for those, except for few lucky ones who were born in very rich family. You have to make these positions attractive to the honest people. This has to be done in such a way that being rich is no longer a pre-condition. Our suggestion is that you give a monthly salary of at least 50 paisa per month per voter for these elected office-holders (instead of current declaration of meagre doubling the TK 1500 to TK 3000, that is funny). If this policy is adopted, that would make these positions attractive to the competent people in a way that will change the dynamics of politics in Bangladesh. For a posting on a related topic, see this link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdresearchers/message/2607  The specific numbers are not important, but it has to be big enough to make any substantial change.
 
We know what many of our readers are thinking. We do not blame you guys. Its not your fault. Even our best intellectuals will also be saying the same. For example, you ask Dr. Wahiduddin Mahmud or Dr. Yunus or Dr. Muzaffar Ahmed or any other respected intellectuals, they will tell you that its not a good idea. People should come to public offices to serve the country, not for money, blah blah blah. Behind this assumption, they think that only the sons and daughters of the rich are entitled to compete for the election. That basic assumption is false and that is destroying our democratic foundation. If our this assumption is true, that would explain the root cause of many of our problems. This mindset is coming from last century.
 
You guys assume that all who are competent are born in the elite families. You couldn't be more wrong. Look at the local level leaders. Lives of most of these leaders are not only a story of rise in corruption, there are also many a story of rising economic condition. They become ward member because they think that is only way to make a decent money. To do that they first become mastan. And some percent eventaully succeed, the smarter ones. Though that is wrong way. But what is the alternative? If a honest person even somehow becomes elected, what is he supposed to do after being elected? Run his family for 3000 taka and still be popular chairman? Or do you want these few honest people do the impossible jobs, and then go asking for money to the rich of the soceity to run his family?
 
Our system do not prize the honest and competent. We currently have a system which punishes, if you are foolish enough to be honest and talk your mind.
 
Say for example, somebody does a job which pays him taka 30,000 per month. He has achieved this through hard work, honestly, during his last 35/40 years of life. This monthly salary is probably his only life-line to support the family, because none of his father or father-in-laws were theives, let alone himself. So, what choices do you give him, if he wants to go back to his village and fight for the UP chairman or a ward member position? Being elected itself a big challenge. Your election commission has a lot of work to enable this type of candidates to get a level-playing field in the villages. Is there a legal way for this person to raise money for election spending? Can he open a bank account and receive donation for running for office?
 
Or say a person who is earning 1,20,000 taka from a job, and he is considering to go for MP candidacy.
 
There is no legal framework for these two person to raise their funds from their personal network, if they want to. Election commision will have to figure that out soon. Time is running out.
 
But our today's talk is not about that. We are assuming that election commission will do that effectively and sooner than later. But then comes the policies that you make or your advisory council make.
 
Once these type of candidates get elected, if they gets upto there, what does he do to make sure that their families are still being fed well and their children being sent to a good school? Have you ever thought of making a budget of your elected official - the type that you so often talk about - the honest and competent ones? If you have not done so, you better do that. Do not assume that all of them will have their savings account or father's money to support their families. Few might and be still honest, but many wont.
 
Do not expect that their budget will come from out of pocket. It will either come from corruption (the traditional candidate) or from the government exchecker (because most of your honest and competent candidates do not have money or do not come from rich families)!!
Off course, unless you make a provision to receive donation for personal spending which we think is a bad idea.
 
So, unless you make sure that you change the incentives and framework so that the nature of the competitors are changed, you can not make any significant effect in the system. You have to change the stuctural parameters, if you really understand the problem and you really mean what you say. If you do this, the positive result will be much better than you can think of. Don't beleive us? Ring in some top rated professor in social system dynamics or application of complexity theory in social systems and ask them to run a simulation on this. MIT or Stanford or INSEAD or Tokyo or NUS or many other similar schools have such experts. To do this, to pay for the expenses of the elected officials, is not a big amount for the nation. If we expect a positive result, the money figure is manageable. The other article for we earlier provided link has some calculation. This seemingly insignificant injection of energy into the structure has the capacity of changing the system within a very few years time. Moreover, you do not have to go that far in doing simulation. You have a real example closer to home. Singapore and many others are reaping the benefits of such policies.
 
If you can not or do not have the courage to do this, then give us a break - bakhwas should be stopped. The fact that your government is not stealing money, the mastans are mostly gone, you are trying to reform the bureacracy and the police, etc are good enough reason to praise you. But there is no need to increase the expectation of the populace in saying that they should expect a good government or good leadership after this election. Beyond your tenure, let "A story of a thirty some" to continue for some more years (To read the story, see http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/vinnomot/message/10977). It won't be as bad as it were pre-1/11. But there is no gurantee that your cosmetic and half-hearted reform efforts will make a strong enough dent to reverese the degeneration in the system.
 
Dear readers, still there is no need to be dishearned. Our changes will be much slower than we thought we would be getting. After all, you represent a failed generation - what better could you do? For the same reason, we had earlier opposed the idea of Dr. Yunus's joining politics with the banner of NaShok. With such a bunch of incompetent, hypocrite and closed-minded generation, we actually should not be expect much better than this. 
 
If public thinks that the current government is not doing everything in their reach to establish good governance, it would be an opportunity lost. Please, please, please. Take actions to inject some honest energy in the system. Take actions to make a competition among honest and competent, not a competition among the corrupt and culprits. The fact that you are running the country, is unconventional. So, do not hesitate just because some bureaucrat tells you that its unconventional, or can not be done. Think for yourself.
 
If you do have have the will to do that, then try the war criminals, at the least.
 
We think both can be done. Start the war crimes commission by this Independence Day. Then start the elections of the local government bodies, under the proposed policies. And once all is over, hold the general election. All of these can be and should be done.
 
 
May the Almighty bless them all.
 
If you thought some of the ideas are worth of your reading time, please forward it to others. If you have an ear to the columinsts in regular traditional media, please forward it to them. If you have an ear to the journalists and news editors of the electronic media, discuss it with them. Hope they would look at the suggestions and give due diligence. 
 
 
Thanks for your time,
Innovation Line
 
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