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Monday, September 7, 2009

Re: [chottala.com] FW: Secularism in India



What Mr. Dowllah forwarded is out and out narrow  & henious form of 
hindu communalism which is a phenomenon more appropriately known
as HINDUTVA ....There is no denying of the fact that menacing rise of
Hindutva fascist forces is undermining the relatively weak but sane secular
forces in Indian societry. The hindutva thrives on political opportunism,
 & communalism vis-à-vis social backwardness that is very much prevalent
in India.....
 
India is a land of 138,188,240 Muslims (13.4 % of it's total population according
to 2001 census] and majority of them are proud of being Indian citizens and
practice Islam freely without intimidation and live in a communally harmonious
atmosphere.. Free religious conversion from Hinduism to Islam is not very
uncommon in India.[the reverse is unthinkable in Pakistan or Bangladesh]
 
[ 15 People Convert to Islam in Mumbai *NEW*
Hindu Sister Accept Islam Live at Urdu Peace Conference By Zakir Naik
Listen to Dr. Zakir Naik's speech emphasizing Indian constitution very carefully
 
Each and every nation in the world has it's good, bad and ugly.
The rise of hundutva refects the menifestation of the UGLY side of
Indian society. The secular voices in India is fighting HINDUTVA menace
in every possible way ...... 
 
Mixing up Hundutva with secularism actually helps Hindutva and other
communal forces in South Asia.
 
FYI,  
The word 'secular' continues to be misrepresented by many  people in today's
Bangladesh. [see YouTube video:
বাংলাদেশ SECULARISM: Allama Sayeedi
]
 
It is wrongly assumed by many that 'SECULAR' is opposite of

'RELIGIOUS'. However, if anything, the opposite of  SECULAR is COMMUNAL,

while the opposite of the word RELIGIOUS is ATHEIST. The word SECULARISM

is not synonymous with ATHEISM. 
 
Above all, the  HINDUTVA IS COMMUNALISM NOT SECULARISM.
 

 

Syed Aslam
 
Note:
 
Muslims constitute just 13.4% of India's population. All of them, except a tiny minirity of 2 percent,
are proud of being an Indian. These truths and much more come to fore in the CNN-IBN-Hindustan Times
State of the Nation survey, conducted by the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies.
 

Muslims and commitment to Democracy

Against popular belief, all but two per cent of Muslims are actually 'proud' of being an Indian.

Hindu-Muslim relations in last 3-4 years

Only 13% Muslims feel that the Hindu-Muslim rift cannot be bridged while about the same number feel that it made no difference in the first place.


Source:

 
On 9/1/09, <> wrote:

Dear all chottala readers,
Please look at the so called secularism in India. Burning of Muslims' Holy Quran, sometimes Christians' Bible and sometimes Buddhists' Holy book which is the common and regular phenomenon in India, should not be regarded as secularism. Killing of Buddhists in millions in the past by Raja Sankar Acherjee to convert them forcefully into hinduism is a well known history of the past. Population wise and religion wise Muslims are the third largest population in the world after 1st Christians' and 2nd Buddhism. Hinduism is limited in India and Nepal only, with worshipper of multiple god and goddess mostly animals starting from
monkey upto donkey. The most peculiar thing in their religion is to purify their house with cow dung and spreading cows' urine in their houses. Even some of them used to drink cow's urine to feel some peace and mental happiness in their soul. Whatever might be, it is their own faith and believe. But why to attack others religious sentiments by destruction of Mosques (like Historic Babri Mosque), Christian Church, Buddhist Temple, killing and burnung alive of thiusands of innocent Muslims by the instigation of their chief minister fanatics Norendra Singh Modi in Guzrat, burning of others Holy Book like our Holy Quran and so on. Our Muslims never did this following the teachings of our Prophet Muhammed Sallalahu Alaihe Wasallam (PBUH), and according to the teachings of our Holy Quran.

Dowllah.

 

 

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       Nauzubillahe Minzalek
 
                
           HINDUS BURNING THE HOLY QURAN 
Please forward this to as many people as you can in different countries so that it may reaches the media which will for sure- cover it as well as it deserves, and the Muslims all over the world may know & do something about this.
This is an exclusive picture and it's the only proof of the unforgivable sin done by the fanatics Hindus with a  Pagriwala Mouchewala Sikh Sardarji standing and looking from behind most probably as admirer and supporter.

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           What a nice Secularism in India.
 
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RE: [chottala.com] FW: Secularism in India




Dear Mr. Dowllah,

Some of your writings really amazes me, I had noted that you described yourself as an ex-student of CMCH, which requires some degree of intelligence and openess, some of your writings  only creates hatred and self-centered seniments.

What the citizens of India do has nothing to do with Bangladesh as long it does not hurt the national interest of Bangladesh, moreover what a group of silly, ignorant and retarded persons do something it should not reflect as a national trend of that country.

When the Muslims mullals blew up the Buddha heritage in Afganistan, it surely did not reflect on the entire Muslim community of the world, or did it?

Every religion, unfortunately, have fanatics. There are Christians groups who assumes that they are the best, similarly there are Hindus, Muslims, Jews and other religions with similiar sentiments. I do not think that the religions are at fault, instead it's only a fractions of their followers. Remember what happened a few weeks back in an African country where the Muslims slaughtered hundreds of non-Muslims, or what happeded in a province of Iraq where a group of Muslims killed hundreds of Christians Iraqis.

Islamic history is not as rosy as you are trying to potray. As I said before, every religion have extremists and fundamentalists but as a modern society, we all should ignore their atrocities instead focus on their good deeds.

Buring the Quran and destroying the Buddha heritage does not insult any religion instead it shows how foolish and retarded the section of the people really are.

Please try and spread peace, harmony and love so we can live together in peace and justice all over, unless you do not believe in peace, harmony and love, and specialy if you do not understand "Freedom for all".

Kind regards.


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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:09:18 -0300
Subject: [chottala.com] FW: Secularism in India

 

Dear all chottala readers,
Please look at the so called secularism in India. Burning of Muslims' Holy Quran, sometimes Christians' Bible and sometimes Buddhists' Holy book which is the common and regular phenomenon in India, should not be regarded as secularism. Killing of Buddhists in millions in the past by Raja Sankar Acherjee to convert them forcefully into hinduism is a well known history of the past. Population wise and religion wise Muslims are the third largest population in the world after 1st Christians' and 2nd Buddhism. Hinduism is limited in India and Nepal only, with worshipper of multiple god and goddess mostly animals starting from
monkey upto donkey. The most peculiar thing in their religion is to purify their house with cow dung and spreading cows' urine in their houses. Even some of them used to drink cow's urine to feel some peace and mental happiness in their soul. Whatever might be, it is their own faith and believe. But why to attack others religious sentiments by destruction of Mosques (like Historic Babri Mosque), Christian Church, Buddhist Temple, killing and burnung alive of thiusands of innocent Muslims by the instigation of their chief minister fanatics Norendra Singh Modi in Guzrat, burning of others Holy Book like our Holy Quran and so on. Our Muslims never did this following the teachings of our Prophet Muhammed Sallalahu Alaihe Wasallam (PBUH), and according to the teachings of our Holy Quran.

Dowllah.

 

 

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Subject: Activities of Dandi Potash in India
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:30:02 +0600

 
 
 
 
 
       Nauzubillahe Minzalek
 
                
           HINDUS BURNING THE HOLY QURAN 
Please forward this to as many people as you can in different countries so that it may reaches the media which will for sure- cover it as well as it
deserves, and the Muslims all over the world may know & do something about this.
This is an exclusive picture and it's the only proof of the unforgivable sin done by the fanatics Hindus with a  Pagriwala Mouchewala Sikh Sardarji standing and looking from behind most probably as admirer and supporter.

 

 

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           What a nice Secularism in India.

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