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Tuesday, September 30, 2008

Re: [chottala.com] Research Information

Dear All,

The idea of combating ESRF is vital for Bangladesh and its citizens.
The country is not prosperous and if you add medical calamities to it,
then we do not have a healthy and productive nation. The idea of
putting together the funds for this noble issue is a good gesture and
we need to applaud such initiative. We have to start somewhere and let
us build on the foundations laid by others and help this gentleman to
achieve the target he has embarked on using an acceptable and
transparent process of funding.

This will do the country much good.

Thanks

On 9/30/08, MahmudHassan <MahmudHassan> wrote:
> Dear writer,
>
> All I was worried about you may end up getting the wrong data for your
> analysis. The reason you are doing it is noble and I wish you luck with your
> job.
>
> thanks and regards,
>
> mahmud
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> --- On Tue, 9/30/08, Lost@yahoo.com <Lost@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: Lost@yahoo.com <Lost@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: [chottala.com] Research Information
> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:47 AM
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> Dear Mr. Hassan,
>
> Thank you very much for writing on this subject. Your kind suggestions and
> directives are much appreciated.
>
> As a PhD student I am sure you are well aware that research data on many
> subjects can be gathered from existing resources but when the subject
> matter is non-existent one has to begin from bottom. Any information/ data
> collected from such raw sources has to be vetted to verify its reliability.
> I am beginning from the raw end then intend to go upwards. Since I am not
> much educated as you, my ideas are limited. I would be obliged if you could
> kindly direct me to resources.
>
> I do not know whether you are familiar with End Stage Renal Failure (ESRF),
> it's a devasting health issue and the citizens of Bangladesh will face
> massive growth of ESRF in the near future because of consumption
> of contaminated drinks and foods. The last conservative statistics, done
> five years ago shows one in every million but presently it is three in every
> million. This is a very alarming figure. As there is no cure for this
> disease, the only way to survive is kidney transplant or dialysis which is
> extremely expensive. My questions therefore ""Is Chittagong ready to
> face this calamity?""
>
> In a seminar held September, 2007, it was`revealed that 20 million (two
> crore) kidney patients are presently in Bangladesh and 35,000 are added each
> year. I am confident that out of these 20 million at least one million are
> from Chittagong. What are these people doing?
>
> In the Health budget of Bangladesh only 1.2% of the GNP is allocated and the
> priority areas are Population control, provision of clean drinking water and
> eradication of communicable diseases. There is negligible allocation of
> development of existing healthcare systems, education to healthcare and
> facing the challenges of tomorrow. Of course I understand that the
> government have many other core priorities, like energy, security etc. etc.
>
> Sir, I am not entering into a debate for your wise-crack comments but I hope
> you understand my reasons for seeking assistance and help from anyone
> interested to assist me. All I am trying to do is direct a US$5 million fund
> to Chittagong to develop healthcare for ESRF patients and be ready to face
> the issue when this disaster strikes. Since I was born in Chittagong I am
> trying to contribute to the city of my birth, please join me if you can.
>
> I hope you attain your PhD soon and help our community. Bangladesh needs
> help and is crying.
>
> Kind regards.
>
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> To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com
> From: mhapu@yahoo. com
> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:08:16 -0700
> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Research Information
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> Dear Writer,
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> How can you rely on the data that is collected by the person whom you never
> know..please consider research ethics and be sure of your the data
> collection method.
>
> mahmud hassan
> PhD student Australia
>
> --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Lost Dream <lostadream@hotmail. com> wrote:
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> From: Lost Dream <lostadream@hotmail. com>
> Subject: [chottala.com] Research Information
> To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 12:18 AM
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> Dear Members,
>
> I am preparing a research Project Proposal for Chittagong Bangladesh and had
> been trying to find some basis information unfortunately I could not get any
> information. It would be very helpful if anyone could kindly provide me with
> the following information:
>
> 1. Number of Dialysis Clinic in Chittagong: Governmental, Private and
> Charitable dialysis clinics.
> 2. What are their charges for each treatment and the average changes paid by
> patients.
> 3. Number of Nephrogolists practising in Chittagong who are based in
> Chittagong.
> 4. If any Nephrologists based elsewehere in the country but visit Chittagong
> regularly to attend patients, like once a week or more.
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> I would be much obliged if anyone would respond. If you do not have
> information on all the four points, please respond with whatever partial
> information you might have
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[chottala.com] Pakistan Names New Spy Chief

 
 
Lt Gen Ahmed Shujaa Pasha
Lt Gen Pasha 
BBC News

A Shake-Up at the Top of Pakistan's Powerful Spy Agency

A view of the destruction caused by a suicide bomb explosion at the Marriott hotel in Islamabad.
A view of the destruction caused by a suicide bomb explosion at the Marriott hotel in Islamabad.
B.K. Bangash / AP

Pakistan may now enjoy what seems to be healthy if noisy democracy, but the office of army chief remains the most powerful in the country — certainly exceeding the effective control of any politician or civilian bureaucrat. And now, Pakistan's army chief Gen. Ashfaq Kayani is showing he is truly in charge of the military — and hence the most powerful man in the country

Just before midnight on Sept. 29, Kayani replaced the head of the country's premier intelligence agency and elevated a slew of hand-picked generals to key positions in a major shake-up of the military leadership. The most striking appointment is the decision to promote Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha as the new head of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), one of the world's most powerful spy agencies — routinely described, and decried, as "a state within a state." Gen. Pasha, who had headed military operations in the tribal areas, replaces Lt. Gen. Nadeem Taj — an appointee and relative of recently departed president and ex-army chief Pervez Musharraf, who was infamous for intertwining military and political affairs.

The reshuffle comes at a sensitive time for Pakistan's half-million-strong and nuclear-armed military. In the Bajaur tribal agency along the Afghan border and in the Swat valley, it is locked in fierce and enervating military operations against the Pakistan Taliban. At the same time, the army's relations with its sponsors in Washington have sunk to a fresh low after the ISI was accused of aiding Taliban militants, and the ensuing breakdown in communication between the U.S. and Pakistan saw a flurry of unauthorized American airstrikes target militants in the tribal areas. U.S. Special Operations forces also mounted their first known ground assault within Pakistani territory this month.

Some observers in Pakistan criticized the personnel shakeup as a response to U.S. pressure. They came just weeks after U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs, Richard Boucher, publicly demanded that reform of the ISI be carried out. They also followed last weekend's secret meeting between Pakistan's recently elected president, Asif Ali Zardari, and CIA head Michael Hayden about what the U.S. intelligence agency called the "double game played by Pakistan's spy agency." While in New York City for the United Nations General Assembly, Zardari told Roger Cohen of the New York Times: "The ISI will be handled, that is our problem. We don't hunt with the hound and run with the hare, which is what [former president Pervez] Musharraf was doing."

However, others argue against the notion that the U.S. forced the reforms on Islamabad. The timing of the promotions was not extraordinary and had been made "on the basis of merit," says Talat Masood, a retired general turned military analyst. "These postings were in the normal course of events, with many of the officers due for rotation or retirement," he says. "Gen Kayani used this opportunity to bring in new people according to his [priorities]."

Yet one of Kayani's priorities, analysts say, is restoring relations with Washington, the source of over $6 billion in military aid since 2001. "There has been a strain in relations between the Pakistan army and the Pentagon," says Hasan Askari-Rizvi, a military analyst, referring to the recent U.S. unilateral actions that sparked sharp condemnation from Kayani as well as public outrage. "The army wants to deal with this through talks and negotiations. Now, with these promotions, you have a team at the top that is in line with General Kayani's thinking on terrorism and militancy in the tribal areas. There was a lot of skepticism about General Nadeem Taj's commitment to fighting militants." By appointing Gen. Pasha, who has been leading the military's campaign in the tribal areas and has been noted for speaking out against Islamabad's previous policy of the supporting the Taliban, "General Kayani has an ISI chief who is behind in policy, and the American complaint has been answered," adds Askari-Rizvi.

In the wake of the July 7 bombing of the Indian Embassy in Kabul, the ISI was accused of involvement and helping the Jalaluddin Haqqani network, which was blamed for the attack. Indeed, the dispute between Islamabad and Washington appears to center on the activities of the Haqqani network and other militants blamed for mounting cross-border attacks on NATO forces in Afghanistan, which have led to a spike in violence in its eastern provinces this year. According to Pakistan's military spokesman Gen Abbas, this may be because "the priorities are mismatching." While the U.S. is focused on Afghanistan, the Pakistan army sees the battle currently raging in Bajaur as its priority, he said. "We cannot risk opening up another front while we don't have the resources."

While the army strenuously denies the charge of coddling the re-energized Taliban, its chief military spokesman concedes that the army maintains "indirect" contact with an assortment of militant groups it once cultivated. "Which agency in the world would break its last contact with them?" asked Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas in an interview before the promotions were announced. However, critics contend that the Pakistan army is not yet prepared to sever its links with its former clients in the militant underworld, perhaps as a way of insuring some kind of influence over Afghanistan, where once again radical Islamists are threatening the stability of the pro-U.S. regime.

Nevertheless, the change at the top of the ISI is likely to be welcomed by Washington, and may even relax tensions with Islamabad, analysts say. While it helps Kayani advance a more coherent approach to the challenge of rising militancy, it also underscores the army's enduring clout. The ISI nominally falls under the purview of the prime minister, but on this occasion the civilian government merely gave formal approval to a decision by the military leadership. Two months ago, the civilian government attempted to bring the ISI formally under its control. The move was vetoed by the armed forces, proving again where power truly lies in Pakistan.

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Pakistan has named a new head of its military intelligence service, a move that will be scrutinised by US and Afghan officials who have questioned the agency's loyalties in the "war on terror".
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A Shakeup at the Top of Pakistan's Powerful Spy Agency TIME
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Re: [chottala.com] How Stupid Is Sarah Palin?

Like I have said before, there is not much to discuss here since you have already agreed with what I have originally stated. I have never said that the Republicans are "Stupid" or the "Americans are stupid" etc. It's your own conclusion. However it is quite accurate for one to say that our nation has twice erred in electing George W Bush given the fact that he is one of the worst rated presidents in history despite having myriads of advisors that you have mentioned in one of your questions. 

My question was "how stupid is Sarah Palin?" And I am not alone in stating that since I have your support as well. The facts remain the same.  She is quite stupid. And again you agree with me.

I will do you a little favor by enlighten you on the following since you are asking my help on it because of your lack of knowledge on "US Politics and politics in general":

 

1. What credentials does one need to run for US presidency? Do you need to have a degree in every subject? Or a Resume with 20 years experience?

Answer: No you don't and you are again out of bounds since I never questioned that. However Sarah Palin is quite stupid and she just doesn't have what it takes.

 

2. Does a candidate have to know anything and everything about a huge and complex country?

 Answer: No you don't and I have never said that. But don't give dumb answers about the country either since you are running for the vice president of the United States of America.

 

3. Perhaps the parties in the US should cultivate one or two persons and train them to be the most knowledgeable on all topics and then nominate them during election time, rather than picking a senator etc from a particular state. This process would provide a very knowledgeable person who can say the right things and make everyone happy.

 Answer: The person doesn't have to make everyone happy provided he or she doesn't act dumb and stupid.

 

4. Correct me if I am wrong-- but I think Bill Clinton was the most educated president that the USA has ever had. Regan was a "good" president and he was a celebrity from Hollywood .

 Answer: But they were not dumb either.

 

5. Do the US presidents really make decisions them selves? Or they have a thousand advisors telling them what to say and do ?

  Answer: How about George Bush. Do you think George Bush was a few advisors short?

 

6. Would the US congress pass a "bad" proposal that a president proposed?

  Answer: Do you or the US Congress want a proposal from Sarah Palin? And I know you agree with me completely so you already know the answer to your question.

 

7. We all blame Bush for all the bad stuff but it is the people who elected him twice, correct ?

  Answer: Do you know the phrase "Once bitten twice shy?" In this case I guess "twice beaten thrice shy?"

  Electing Bush is the best example for us not to choose a dumb lady like Sarah Palin as the VP. I hope that the American people will be alert this time around.

 

8. Palin has done some good things for the state of Alaska -- does anyone know about that ?

Answer:

       Case1:

          "I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'" -- Sarah  Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor's office without approval of the city council.

       Case2:

          "I told the Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that Bridge to Nowhere." –Sarah Palin, who was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it.

       Case3:

           And how about the firing of the official who refused to fire her ex brother in law?  Isn't the official a resident of Alaska?

          Is that your definition of her great service for Alaska? 

 

9. How much international relationship experience does Obama bring ? How many countries did he travel to as an executive?

  Answer: What has Obama anything to do with Sarah Palin being stupid? And you agree with me on her being Stupid already.

 

10. How many Born Americans have travelled out of their country once in their lives? So if Palin has not travelled then good for her; she represents the majority of the American population, no ?

  Answer: This question is again out of bounds. I never brought that up.

 

11. How many "educated" Americans know about Geography and Economy of the worldsοΏ½ ?

They would only know it if the needed to-- as and when Palin needs to know these things she will be advised on the best course of action-- and she will learn on the job, perhaps?

Answer: The question is now. The country will elect a vice president now and she doesn't have it now.

 

12. ... and a lot more basic questions we should ask, instead of beating up Palin, she was chosen by the party she didn't force herself on!

Answer: She didn't have to accept it. No body put a gun on her head to accept the nomination to be a national embarrassment!!

 

Folks this is a wake up call for everyone. We don't want to err one more time in electing someone as dumb as her who God forbid will have a chance to be president of the country at some point. Sarah Palin just doesn't have it and electing her will be a big mistake for the nation.

 

tariq matin

--- On Tue, 9/30/08, Bevan@yahoo.com <Bevan@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bevan@yahoo.com <Bevan@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] How Stupid Is Sarah Palin?
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 3:25 PM

..however, I am open to learning new things and getting new perspectives. perhaps you can enlighten us all by commenting on some of the questions that I have posed. Not to get too philosophical but the bottom line is we should question how/why something is broken rather than saying it is broken; because when something is broken it is obvious to everyone but everyone may not question as why/how it got broken. In the case of Palin we should question why and how she got to the stage that she has been invited to be in [and make a fool of her self] rather than saying she is a "Stupid with a capital "S"!!!!" If the Republicans agreed to put her there then they are all stupid, if they are all stupid that means the majority of the American people are Stupid-- stupid times two [for the two terms they elected Republicans] . I guess i am missing a major point here ?

 

 
 

--- On Tue, 9/30/08, tariq matin <emailad4tariq@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: tariq matin <emailad4tariq@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] How Stupid Is Sarah Palin?
To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 6:46 AM

I see you are "totally agreeing with" everything I am saying.
If you are totally agreeing with me and if you "don't know much about US politics and politics in general" then I guess you have take my word on it.
Therefore I don't have anything else to add on that matter.
tariq matin
 
--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Bevan@yahoo. com <Bevan@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Bevan@yahoo. com <Bevan@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] How Stupid Is Sarah Palin?
To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 9:47 AM

I totally agree with everything you are saying. I have to confess that I don't know much about US politics and politics in general--So just a few questions:
 
1. What credentials does one need to run for US presidency? Do you need to have a degree in every subject? Or a Resume with 20 years experience ?
 
2. Does a candidate have to know anything and everything about a huge and complex country ?
 
3. Perhaps the parties in the US should cultivate one or two persons and train them to be the most knowledgeable on all topics and then nominate them during election time, rather than picking a senator etc from a particular state. This process would provide a very knowledgeable person who can say the right things and make everyone happy.
 
4. Correct me if I am wrong-- but I think Bill Clinton was the most educated president that the USA has ever had. Regan was a "good" president and he was a celebrity from Hollywood .
 
5. Do the US presidents really make decisions them selves? Or they have a thousand advisors telling them what to say and do ?
 
6. Would the US congress pass a "bad" proposal that a president proposed?
 
7. We all blame Bush for all the bad stuff but it is the people who elected him twice, correct ?
 
8. Palin has done some good things for the state of Alaska -- does anyone know about that ?
 
9. How much international relationship experience does Obama bring ? How many countries did he travel to as an executive?
 
10. How many Born Americans have travelled out of their country once in their lives? So if Palin has not travelled then good for her; she represents the majority of the American population, no ?
 
11. How many "educated" Americans know about Geography and Economy of the worldsοΏ½ ?
They would only know it if the needed to-- as and when Palin needs to know these things she will be advised on the best course of action-- and she will learn on the job, perhaps?
 
12. ... and a lot more basic questions we should ask, instead of beating up Palin, she was chosen by the party she didn't force herself on!
 
Cheers

 

 
 


--- On Fri, 9/26/08, tariq matin <emailad4tariq@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: tariq matin <emailad4tariq@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [chottala.com] How Stupid Is Sarah Palin?
To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 9:41 AM

We have made two consecutive mistakes in the past elections as a nation. We have elected a clueless governor of Texas as President who claimed that trade with Mexico was one of his great achievements dealing with a foreign country. Look where he has taken us! Now we are considering electing a vice president who claims that her trades with Russia, a country she can see from her home with her naked eye, as one of her notable accomplishments dealing with foreign neighbor! And are we falling for her because we are so gullible?
I have a claim to make. My claim is Sarah Palin is plain old Stupid with a capital "S"!!!! No wonder why John Mccain is trying to shield her from the media! Is this one of the reasons why he is trying to focus his attention to Wall Street even though there are only few days left before the election for the Main Street!
If you guys want to know how STUPID the "Palin" lady is then you would feel sorry for the "maverick" John Mccain for picking this airhead. I think even the thought of voting for Palin as the vice president is an insult to intelligence after witnessing her embarrassing episodes with the media. You have to watch the interview with Katie Couric to get a feel for the incompetence of Sarah Palin. Here is an excerpt from the interview:

Couric: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

Palin: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie - that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government.

Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?

Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.

Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.

Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

Here is the link :
http://www.cbsnews. com/stories/ 2008/09/24/ eveningnews/ main4476173. shtm

tariq matin





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Re: [chottala.com] How Stupid Is Sarah Palin?

..however, I am open to learning new things and getting new perspectives. perhaps you can enlighten us all by commenting on some of the questions that I have posed. Not to get too philosophical but the bottom line is we should question how/why something is broken rather than saying it is broken; because when something is broken it is obvious to everyone but everyone may not question as why/how it got broken. In the case of Palin we should question why and how she got to the stage that she has been invited to be in [and make a fool of her self] rather than saying she is a "Stupid with a capital "S"!!!!" If the Republicans agreed to put her there then they are all stupid, if they are all stupid that means the majority of the American people are Stupid-- stupid times two [for the two terms they elected Republicans]. I guess i am missing a major point here ?

 

 
 

--- On Tue, 9/30/08, tariq matin <emailad4tariq@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: tariq matin <emailad4tariq@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] How Stupid Is Sarah Palin?
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 6:46 AM

I see you are "totally agreeing with" everything I am saying.
If you are totally agreeing with me and if you "don't know much about US politics and politics in general" then I guess you have take my word on it.
Therefore I don't have anything else to add on that matter.
tariq matin
 
--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Bevan@yahoo. com <Bevan@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Bevan@yahoo. com <Bevan@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] How Stupid Is Sarah Palin?
To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 9:47 AM

I totally agree with everything you are saying. I have to confess that I don't know much about US politics and politics in general--So just a few questions:
 
1. What credentials does one need to run for US presidency? Do you need to have a degree in every subject? Or a Resume with 20 years experience ?
 
2. Does a candidate have to know anything and everything about a huge and complex country ?
 
3. Perhaps the parties in the US should cultivate one or two persons and train them to be the most knowledgeable on all topics and then nominate them during election time, rather than picking a senator etc from a particular state. This process would provide a very knowledgeable person who can say the right things and make everyone happy.
 
4. Correct me if I am wrong-- but I think Bill Clinton was the most educated president that the USA has ever had. Regan was a "good" president and he was a celebrity from Hollywood .
 
5. Do the US presidents really make decisions them selves? Or they have a thousand advisors telling them what to say and do ?
 
6. Would the US congress pass a "bad" proposal that a president proposed?
 
7. We all blame Bush for all the bad stuff but it is the people who elected him twice, correct ?
 
8. Palin has done some good things for the state of Alaska -- does anyone know about that ?
 
9. How much international relationship experience does Obama bring ? How many countries did he travel to as an executive?
 
10. How many Born Americans have travelled out of their country once in their lives? So if Palin has not travelled then good for her; she represents the majority of the American population, no ?
 
11. How many "educated" Americans know about Geography and Economy of the worldsοΏ½ ?
They would only know it if the needed to-- as and when Palin needs to know these things she will be advised on the best course of action-- and she will learn on the job, perhaps?
 
12. ... and a lot more basic questions we should ask, instead of beating up Palin, she was chosen by the party she didn't force herself on!
 
Cheers

 

 
 


--- On Fri, 9/26/08, tariq matin <emailad4tariq@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: tariq matin <emailad4tariq@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [chottala.com] How Stupid Is Sarah Palin?
To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 9:41 AM

We have made two consecutive mistakes in the past elections as a nation. We have elected a clueless governor of Texas as President who claimed that trade with Mexico was one of his great achievements dealing with a foreign country. Look where he has taken us! Now we are considering electing a vice president who claims that her trades with Russia, a country she can see from her home with her naked eye, as one of her notable accomplishments dealing with foreign neighbor! And are we falling for her because we are so gullible?
I have a claim to make. My claim is Sarah Palin is plain old Stupid with a capital "S"!!!! No wonder why John Mccain is trying to shield her from the media! Is this one of the reasons why he is trying to focus his attention to Wall Street even though there are only few days left before the election for the Main Street!
If you guys want to know how STUPID the "Palin" lady is then you would feel sorry for the "maverick" John Mccain for picking this airhead. I think even the thought of voting for Palin as the vice president is an insult to intelligence after witnessing her embarrassing episodes with the media. You have to watch the interview with Katie Couric to get a feel for the incompetence of Sarah Palin. Here is an excerpt from the interview:

Couric: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

Palin: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie - that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government.

Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?

Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.

Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.

Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

Here is the link :
http://www.cbsnews. com/stories/ 2008/09/24/ eveningnews/ main4476173. shtm

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[chottala.com] Divergence between Israel and RAW on Bangladesh widens

This opinion is even more specific about RAW's involvement in Bangladesh. I do not think there can be any doubt that my interpretation was spot on. There is growing divergence between the Israelis and RAW on Bangladesh


Naive Indian news agency is extremely anti Semitic


Srabanti Majumder


Indian hegemonistic news agency Press Trust of India has finally shown its nasties face by exposing its extreme anti Semitic and anti Israel sentiment through a news item cattered by the agency on September 30, 2008 titled "B'desh authorities closely watching activites of IDP".

In the news item, commenting on award winning journalist and editor of Weekly Blitz, Press trust of India said, "The former HuJI leaders announced the emergence of IDP at a function in Dhaka three days ago with controversial pro-Israel campaigner and former journalist Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury and three community leaders representing the Hindu, Buddhist and Christian faiths."


Commenting on such information by PTI terming Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury as a former journalist, several senior journalists in Dhaka said, such remarks are only possibly by any naive news agency like PTI.


How can the editor of two newspapers could be termed as former journalist, they questioned.

It is learnt that, one Anisur Rahman contributed the news item for Press Trust of India who has no knowledge about Bangladesh.


Commenting on Anisur Rahman's remark about Mr. Choudhury as 'former journalist', another senior reported said, generally those working for Indian news agencies are recruits of Indian intelligence agency, RAW. Since Research and Analytical Wing [RAW] has notorious agenda against Bangladesh, it is number one obligation of this espionage agency to defame all pro Bangladesh forces.


It may be mentioned here that, India although enjoys various priviledges by continuing relations with Israel, is in fact, taking every minimum chance of standing against Israel anywhere in the world. Several anti Israel groups including Hamas and Fatah enjoy hidden support from the Indian authorities and RAW.


India has been highly benefited in various ways due to its relations with India, but, its authorities never felt obliged to the only Jewish state for such generous help.


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[chottala.com] Egyptian sheik's outburst against Shiites roils Mideast

Egyptian sheik's outburst against Shiites roils Mideast

Sunni cleric Yusuf Qaradawi calls Shiites heretics trying to invade Sunni nations, tapping into anti-Iran anxieties. Shiites express dismay at the remarks amid Iraq war and efforts to forge unity.
By Jeffrey Fleishman, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
9:56 PM PDT, September 27, 2008
CAIRO -- A popular Sunni Muslim cleric with a television show and a website that churns out religious edicts and dieting tips agitated centuries-old animosities in the Islamic world recently by referring to Shiite Muslims as heretics seeking to invade Sunni societies.

The bitter, often bloody, divide between the two main branches of Islam has been an undercurrent since the 7th century, but Sheik Yusuf Qaradawi's vitriol comes at a fragile time, when Sunni countries such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt are wary that the predominantly Shiite nations of Iraq and Iran could destabilize the region.

 
With populist fervor, Qaradawi's comments intertwined religious mistrust with political suspicion. Iran's nuclear program and influence with the Shiite-led government in Iraq and the radical group Hezbollah in Lebanon have agitated Sunni governments. Fighting between Shiites and Sunnis in Iraq, which left tens of thousands dead since the U.S. invasion of 2003, has calmed, but the Sunni Arab minority worries about its future.

"Shiites are Muslims but they are heretics and their danger comes from their attempts to invade Sunni society," said Qaradawi, who was quoted in the Egyptian independent daily Al Masry al Youm. "They are able to do that because their billions of dollars trained cadres of Shiites proselytizing in Sunni countries. . . . We should protect Sunni society from the Shiite invasion."

Those opinions were first published Sept. 6. Since then, Qaradawi, a man with a polished voice and a gray beard who hosts a show on Islamic law on TV channel Al Jazeera, has been chastised by Shiite scholars and writers in what has turned into a war of polemics and personal attacks played out on websites and in newspapers from Doha to Cairo.

Qaradawi's statements are dangerous and may "push the Muslim people in the direction of more division," Ayatollah Mohammed Taskhiri, vice president of the International Union of Muslim Scholars, was quoted as saying in the Iranian press. The Tabnak News Agency, which is close to Iran's Revolutionary Guard Council, condemned the comments as a "calculated conspiracy against Iranian Shiites."

Another leading Shiite cleric, Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah of Lebanon, said Qaradawi was instigating fitna, or civil strife.

The protests have not fazed Qaradawi; he has appeared more defiant.

"I do not care and I am not shaken by this stir. I made this statement to answer to the dictates of my conscience and religion and responsibility," he said in a second interview with Al Masry al Youm published Thursday. "I am trying to preempt the threat before it gets worse. If we let Shiites penetrate Sunni societies, the outcome won't be praiseworthy. The presence of Shiites in Iraq and Lebanon is the best evidence of instability."

Qaradawi is a prominent moderate cleric, but he has grown skeptical of Shiite intentions. Two years, ago he suggested that Shiites were using the mystical Sufi order of Islam as a cover to penetrate Sunni society. His most recent volleys undercut efforts by Islamic leaders to ease religious tensions, and raise questions about his motivations. Much of the funding for Qaradawi's Qatar-based media enterprises comes from Sunni nations uneasy over Iran's widening influence in the Persian Gulf.

Abul-Fazel Amoee, an Iranian political scientist, said Qaradawi had become an instrument of anti-Shiite propaganda orchestrated by Sunni royals. He said this parallels the "deep rivalry between Saudi Arabia and the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the stage of this competition or ideological battle today is the field of Iraq."

Sectarian differences should "not be handled by exchanging outlandish and fanatical statements. I'm talking about both sides -- Qaradawi and the Shiites," said Abdel Moati Bayoumi, a religious scholar and member of Egypt's Islamic Research Academy. He said divisions between Sunnis and Shiites, which began as a fight over succession after the death of the prophet Muhammad in the 7th century, would weaken Muslim states and serve foreign interests.

Qaradawi's attacks on Shiites received both support and derision in cyberspace, where Islam's internal battles and other dilemmas, such as relations with the West, are increasingly debated. The website for Arabic Radio of Iran was buzzing with posts.

"O, Qaradawi, may God guide you to the right path. Your statements, which don't follow any logic, sow the seeds of sectarianism," wrote Ahmed Noaimi, a Shiite from Bahrain. "Sunnis and we are brothers in Bahrain. I don't know why this war against Shiites; we are Muslims at the end. Why are you making such a statement instead of calling for the unity of both sects? Use your brain, respected sir."

Another respondent, Abu Idris, wrote: "May God protect the respected sheik. He was patient toward what the Shiites have been doing until he felt he had to yell in their faces and draw the attention of their rational people to the danger of what they are doing in the Muslim world."

jeffrey.fleishman@latimes.com


Noha El-Hennawy of The Times' Cairo Bureau and special correspondent Ramin Mostaghim in Tehran contributed to this report.
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Re: [chottala.com] How Stupid Is Sarah Palin?

I see you are "totally agreeing with" everything I am saying.
If you are totally agreeing with me and if you "don't know much about US politics and politics in general" then I guess you have take my word on it.
Therefore I don't have anything else to add on that matter.
tariq matin
 
--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Bevan@yahoo.com <Bevan@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Bevan@yahoo.com <Bevan@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] How Stupid Is Sarah Palin?
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 9:47 AM

I totally agree with everything you are saying. I have to confess that I don't know much about US politics and politics in general--So just a few questions:
 
1. What credentials does one need to run for US presidency? Do you need to have a degree in every subject? Or a Resume with 20 years experience ?
 
2. Does a candidate have to know anything and everything about a huge and complex country ?
 
3. Perhaps the parties in the US should cultivate one or two persons and train them to be the most knowledgeable on all topics and then nominate them during election time, rather than picking a senator etc from a particular state. This process would provide a very knowledgeable person who can say the right things and make everyone happy.
 
4. Correct me if I am wrong-- but I think Bill Clinton was the most educated president that the USA has ever had. Regan was a "good" president and he was a celebrity from Hollywood .
 
5. Do the US presidents really make decisions them selves? Or they have a thousand advisors telling them what to say and do ?
 
6. Would the US congress pass a "bad" proposal that a president proposed?
 
7. We all blame Bush for all the bad stuff but it is the people who elected him twice, correct ?
 
8. Palin has done some good things for the state of Alaska -- does anyone know about that ?
 
9. How much international relationship experience does Obama bring ? How many countries did he travel to as an executive?
 
10. How many Born Americans have travelled out of their country once in their lives? So if Palin has not travelled then good for her; she represents the majority of the American population, no ?
 
11. How many "educated" Americans know about Geography and Economy of the worlds' ?
They would only know it if the needed to-- as and when Palin needs to know these things she will be advised on the best course of action-- and she will learn on the job, perhaps?
 
12. ... and a lot more basic questions we should ask, instead of beating up Palin, she was chosen by the party she didn't force herself on!
 
Cheers

 

 
 


--- On Fri, 9/26/08, tariq matin <emailad4tariq@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: tariq matin <emailad4tariq@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [chottala.com] How Stupid Is Sarah Palin?
To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 9:41 AM

We have made two consecutive mistakes in the past elections as a nation. We have elected a clueless governor of Texas as President who claimed that trade with Mexico was one of his great achievements dealing with a foreign country. Look where he has taken us! Now we are considering electing a vice president who claims that her trades with Russia, a country she can see from her home with her naked eye, as one of her notable accomplishments dealing with foreign neighbor! And are we falling for her because we are so gullible?
I have a claim to make. My claim is Sarah Palin is plain old Stupid with a capital "S"!!!! No wonder why John Mccain is trying to shield her from the media! Is this one of the reasons why he is trying to focus his attention to Wall Street even though there are only few days left before the election for the Main Street!
If you guys want to know how STUPID the "Palin" lady is then you would feel sorry for the "maverick" John Mccain for picking this airhead. I think even the thought of voting for Palin as the vice president is an insult to intelligence after witnessing her embarrassing episodes with the media. You have to watch the interview with Katie Couric to get a feel for the incompetence of Sarah Palin. Here is an excerpt from the interview:

Couric: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

Palin: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie - that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government.

Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?

Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.

Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.

Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

Here is the link :
http://www.cbsnews. com/stories/ 2008/09/24/ eveningnews/ main4476173. shtm

tariq matin



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[chottala.com] Eid-ul-Fitr Issue of Sonarbangladesh.com

dear all 
assalamu alaikum
we are glad to announce that Eid-ul-Fitr issue of our online magazine sonarbangladesh.com is updated...
 
Eid Mubarrak  to all of you on behalf of sonarbangladesh.com  family...
 
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Re: [chottala.com] Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Lebanon, Libya, Jordan celebrated Eid toady. But Oman, Egypt will celebrate Eid al Fitr on Wednesday (1.10.08)

Dear Mr. Shafique,
 
Thanks for the info.
 
EiD*MubaraQ
 
 
 
 
 
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Subject: [chottala.com] Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Lebanon, Libya, Jordan celebrated Eid toady. But Oman, Egypt will celebrate Eid al Fitr on Wednesday (1.10.08)
To: srbanunz@gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, 30 September, 2008, 9:50 AM

Eid al-Fitr festival (after the end of the holy fasting month of Ramadan) are being celebrated today, Tuesday, 30.9.08 in Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Lebanon, Libya, Jordan.

 

Oman, Egypt will start on Wednesday (1.10.08) the mufti, or the country's highest religious authority, announced on state television.
 
 
"Sustha thakon, nirapade thakon ebong valo thakon"

Shuvechhante,

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