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Friday, September 14, 2007

[chottala] Who helped the rise of crony capitalism and parasitic compadore classes in Bangladesh?

Re:  Who helped the rise of  crony capitalism and parasitic compadore classes in Bang;adesh
 
 
Dear Mahatir of Bd
 
Therefore, as I understand from your comment, Amibition and
Personal Vendetta was the motive force behind Zia's paticipation.
.
But the question remains,
Who helped the rise of  crony capitalism and parasitic compadore
classes in Bang;adesh?
 
Why did it happen and how did it happen?
As the Would be Mhathir of Bangladesh  you
are in a better position to give us an in-depth analysis
on the topic.
 
BAKSAL
 
"Bangabandhu by heart really had a good intention of introducing BAKSAL
for the downtrodden people of Bangladesh and he declared it as a "Ditio biplob"
but could not fullfill his desire rather he lost his life bcoz of international politics
and conspiracy which he never did think of at that time.
Only few army officers were not responsible for the killing of Bangabandhu
but the conspiracy"  [Dr. Siraj uddowllah]
What do yoy say?
[I am just trying to understand the historical significances of BAKSAL]
 
Syed Aslam
 
 On 9/14/07, mahathir of bd <wouldbemahathirofbd@yahoo.com> wrote:
So far i know Zia did not get his due promotion
 
 Zia and safiullah was commisioned on the same day in the   Pakistan Army..
but due to his better performance, Zia was in better position in promotion list. 
 But Mujib promoted Safiullah whatever reason might be behind it. 
 And mujib got  result of it on 15 August when  safiullah could do nothing. 
 Recently Safiullah said in an interview that it was not his responsibily to
save president Mujib.
 
 

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[chottala] CTG headed BY Fakhruddin, Backed by Moin : What a worst (Joghonno) CTG it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mannan bhuyan was  appointed as Secretary general (SG) of BNP without council. No body objected against it(i found no objection from within BNP).
 
 Bhuyan  worked  SG for 11 years. In these 11 years  i noticed no single news of differnece of opinion between khaleda and Mannan, even  just after 1/11 of 2007.
 
 
No news of Mannan's reservation against the appointment of Tareq rahman as Senior Joint secretary. Even Manan always tried to defend   Khaleda and tareq  if there was any report against them.
 
 But  from some days after 1/11 manan has become reformist( at the eye of some people,opportunist at the eye of BNP supporters) critical of Khaleda and tareq, critical of family dynasty.
 
 Even trying  to portray that he has more love or  pain for BNP than Khaleda and tareq.
 
Dared to  attempt to ousted khaleda from BNP.
 
 if he   had expressed his difference with khaleda for   even single a time before 1/11,  we would accept him as reformist.
 
So now we can not designate him other than opportunist and betrayer.
 
Has he become  betrayer of his own or somebody has pressured him to do so?
 
Observing the activities  of CTG and EC it is clear to us that CTG has  pressured him to betray with Khaleda or patronizing  him.
 
 What is the worst  vice of man ? Why Mir Zafar is the most hated person in the history of Bengal?
 
 Certainly, betraying.
 
 So those who do betray or patronize a betrayer are not they the worst person  or body in the society?
 
 
 Why  does CTG need to patronize a betrayer? can any one achieve anything good by patronizing betraying and betrayer?
 
 
 
 
 CTG is expected to play neutral role. But our present CTG headed by Fakhruddin and backed by Moin is patronizing  opportunist and  betrayer like Mannan Bhuyan.
 
 
 Are the people  of bangladesh so foolish that they wil support and vote betrayer Like Mannan in the next election (even if he get Paddy shef through  the conspiracy of EC) and Mannan will make Moin  the president  of Bangladesh as suggested By Noimul Islam khan , agent of DGFI?
 
 History makes us hopeful that Bangladeshi people will not support betrayer Like Mannan.
 
 They may suport people like  rebellious  Oli but not betrayer Mannan.
 
 
 But our CTG is not  reading the write up in the history.
 
 
May Allah  Make Worst  ever  ever CTG ( due to patronizing betraying) come to the right path in this Ramazan.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: [chottala] BAKSAL

I am fully agree with the writer. He is absolutely right.
Heartiest thanks for his fair comment.
 
Gopal

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Re: [chottala] Prayer for Dr. Md. Abdul Hye

Though I was not direct student of Hye sir But I know him very well.
 
I express my deepest respect to Hye sir & his family.Also respect for all of those physicians & well wishers those involved in the medical treatment of Hye Sir.
 
I would like to convey my heartfelt wishes  for a speedy recovery of Hye Sir & offer my prayers for the swiftest possible restoration of his health.
 
May Allah cure him as soon as possible.
 
Sincerely

Sharfuddin
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 13 October, 2007 11:44 AM
Subject: [chottala] Prayer for Dr. Md. Abdul Hye

Dr. Md. Abdul Hye, former Professor of Accounting, University of
Chittagong, currently Dean of Business and Economics, East West University,
Dhaka has undergone an open heart surgery on September 12th. at United
Hospital, Dhaka. Doctors informed the operation was successful and his
condition is stable. Dr. Hye also taught at Govt. College of Commerce,
Chittagong in the sixties. He is one of the finest man I have known. Please
pray for his early recovery.

Professor Abdul Mannan
Former Vice Chancellor
University of Chittagong.

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Re: [chottala] Ramadan Kareem

Dear Shafiq Bhai
Ramadanul Kareem Mubarak
I am very impressed with below Dua.May Allah bring all peace & prosperity to human being. 
 
Thanks a million for your such a beautiful thing.
 
Take care
Sharfuddin
 
 
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Sent: 13 September, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: [chottala] Ramadan Kareem


The month of most blessed & profuse blessing & bounty

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Is again with us
 

  

May Allah the Almighty and most Merciful

Shower his choicest blessings on all of us.

AMEEN

 

 

Allah – one & only lord

Creator & Sustainer of the whole universe

Make our IMAN stronger.

Forgive all our sins, short comings and mistakes.

Fulfil all our honest & good desires.

Safeguard us from all calamities, hardship and troubles.

AMEEN

 

 

May Allah assist us all in rushing towards good deeds

And staying away from the bad

AMEEN

 

 

May all of our efforts and prayers, fasting& DUAS

In this blessed month - be accepted by Allah.

AMEEN

 

 

Please remember all for the well being of all humanity

In your daily prayers/DUAS/supplications

 

Ramadan Kareem

AMEEN  
 

 

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[chottala] BAKSAL

Dear mahathir of bd,
 
What you have told you are right as our Bangabandhu gave promotion to Shafiullah before Zia ur Rahman bcoz he had a soft corner for General Shafiullah than Gen Zia at that time. But when our Bangabandhu was attacked he got some time to call Gen. Shafiullah on phone for his help but he did not turn up at that time rather he replied he was unable to do any help. We came to know all this incidents bcoz I was 34 years  and a full fledged Doctor at that time. Now many discussions regarding BAKSAL are going on between our chottala readers and writers many of whom did not born at that time. By hearing many twisted stories from different opportunist quarter they are trying to put so many untrue stories in favour of their arguments, really mahathir bhai being a real witness at that time we have got no other alternative than to remain deaf and dumb and keep our mouth shut.
Bangabandhu by heart really had a good intention of introducing BAKSAL for the downtrodden people of Bangladesh and he declared it as a "Ditio biplob" but could not fullfill his desire rather he lost his life bcoz of international politics and conspiracy which he never did think of at that time. Only few army officers were not responsible for the killing of Bangabandhu but the conspiracy came from a very deep rooted top international level.
 
Dr. Siraj uddowllah, Windsor, Canada.


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[chottala] Reform Without result: Secretary general lost party

 
Dear bangladeshi,
 
 Read the link who is  the secretary who has lost the party.
 


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Re: [chottala] Somethings to Think About!

Will our jack of all, master of none hear to your suggestions? 

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Re: [chottala] Who helped rise of crony capitalism & parasitic compadore classes in Bangladesh ?

So far i know Zia did not get his due promotion
 
 Zia and safiullah was commisioned on the same day in the   Pakistan Army.. but due to his better performance, Zia was in better position in promotion list.
 
 But Mujib promoted Safiullah whatever reason might be behind it.
 
 And mujib got  result of it on 15 August when  safiullah could do nothing.
 
 Recently Safiullah said in an interview that it was not his responsibily to save president Mujib.
 
 


Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
Who helped the rise of  crony capitalism and parasitic compadore classes
in Bangladesh !
 
WRT:

Mr. Shah Abdul Hannan
 
So you had a choice and you didn't join BAKSAL.
In essence, you have agreed  that joining BAKSAL was not 
compulsory for the government employees, en mass. 
 
General Zia had the same choice, but he promptly  accepted
the invitation and  joined BAKSAL: Perhaps, to prove his
(fake) loyalty to Mujib and thus  get a quick promotion ....(sheer
opportunism !) .......where was his moral high ground at that time!
 
 
I am neither a supporter nor a opponent of BAKSAL or Awami League.
My information on BAKSAL is only through secondary sources. 
No one denies the fact that BAKSAL was based on  Communist
model and was authoritarian in nature.   [The social costs and
benefits (if any) of  authoritarianism and regimentation is 
debatable and can be discussed in a different thread].
 
As far as I have understood by studying the  history of Bangladesh,
the BAKSAL  system was an experiment with socialism as its main 
objective.  May be, it was utopian in the socio- political context of the
then  Bangladesh .
 
But, it remains little puzzling to me as to what would have prevented
the rise of crony capitalism and  the rise of a parasitic compadore classes
in Bangladesh . Ms Dina Khan and Mr. Adikhari's writings on the matter
has some valid points.
 
Please tell me what the masses of Bangladesh got in 31 years
by choosing the path chartered by the people who overthrew
BAKSAL. Even, to Hasina, the daughter of Mujib the very
name BAKSAL  was an anathema.
 
I differ with your contention that who joined BAKSAL
and who didn't is not important.
 
You as a political activist may conveniently think so. Just like your
party Jamaat thinks that who joined Muktijuddho and who opposed
it is not important. [Recall your now hidden, now open connection 
with  Jamaat-e-Islami of Bangladesh and your Islami Chttro Sangha
(Shibir) days ].
 
But, for us, the silent onlookers of our contemporary
history,  every actons of the main players in the different phases
of our history important. We need that in order to understand
the historical  processes through which we are passing.
 
 
BTW, I have been told by one researcher in Bangladesh Studies
that Bangladesh Observer published a  list of government officials
who responded to the invitation letter for joining BAKSAL on or
about 25th of July 1975.  The complete list at that time only
consisted only 57 names [Military & Civil Service officials]. The
back-issues of  Bangladesh Observer is available in Microfiche at
Widener Library of Harvard University, Cambridge, MA, USA.
 
Regards
 
Syed Aslam

 
On 9/12/07, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com > wrote:
Dearmembers and Mr Syed Aslam,
 
Assalamu Alaikum.Yes. I was a mid-level officer at that time.All departments, all Heads of offices received letters  from the government to  ask all officers under them   to become members of BAKSAL.
I am writing this from memory.I never wanted to be member of a political party as a government official.I was all the time praying so that I may not have to be a member. Unlike many others I delayed the matter.In the meantime the regime changed and I escaped the dis-honour and shame of becoming a member of a political party as a government official( as is the case of communist states).
Shah Abdul Hannan
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [khabor.com] Re: General Zia's joined BAKSAL voluntarilyn - Attention Mr. Mohiuddin Anwer

 
Mr. Shah Abdul Hannan
 
Can you show us some documentary evidence to prove that every government  employees were required to become member of the then single party  BAKSAL?
 
So far I understand: before BAKSAL ammendment [Fourth Amendment to the constitution of Bangladesh.] state employees were not permitted to member of any political party. Under the Fourth Amendment (Article 117A),  the government employees were allowed to join the political party BAKSAL..  But it was not compulsory for every government servants to join BAKSAL.
 
Only a handful of opportunist, career seekers and sychophants, amongst the government officials,  joined BAKSAL voluntarily during the two and half months
of BAKSAL's life-span. That includes General Ziaur Rahman.
 
Stounchly anti-Mujib, self-proclaimed Baksaler Zom Mr. Mohiuddin Anwar,  himself has admitted this in many of his postings in Vinnomot, Mukto-Mona and
Khabor. The most recent one can be seen in:
 
By the way,  I far as I have read from  you postings in different
Yahoo Group messages, you were a Government Officer in 1975. Just be honest and tell us if you had joined BAKSAL?  If so, how and  when did you join? Was there an application form? Have you taken any   oath while joining? [Like you did when you joined Islami Chattro Shangha, the predecessor of Sibir] .
 
Tell us the details of the processes through which the employees of the Bangladesh Government became BAKSAL members in 1975.
It is very important to know the camillions who jumped into theband-wagon of BAKSAL and quickly chaged their colors soon after it's collaspe.
 
An honest answer would be your real contribution to study of current events and  contemporary history! So, please don't evade the question and justify that as a taqia as many Jamatis do.
 
Regards
 
Syed Aslam
 
 
On 9/12/07, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com > wrote:
Dear members,
 
Assalamu Alaikum.It is not very important who was member of BAKSAL or not because, the authorities saw to it that every government officer becomes member of the then single party .It was difficult at that dictatorial  time to refuse to become member of that party.
 
Shah Abdul Hannan
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:30 PM
Subject: [khabor.com] Re: General Zia's joined BAKSAL voluntarilyn - Attention Mr. Mohiuddin Anwer

 
--- In khabor@yahoogroups.com, "Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan" <srbanunz@...>
wrote:
>
> Mr. Parvez,
>
>
>
> If you do not know this simple and primary information - facts of
> initial period of Bangladesh Krisok Sromik Awami League (BAKSAL),
> then how do you make silly comments on Bangladesh Krisok Sromik
> Awami League and also other detail, complex and knowledge based
> items of Bangladesh Krisok Sromik Awami League?

Why unnecessarily engage in such nonsense? There is no heaven
cracking knowledge base or complexity involved in Bakshal - the most
nasty and notorious chapter in the history of the nation.

Now my question is back again: Is there any credible documentation
to suggest that ZIA was a member of Bakshal? To my knowledge, it is
an outright NO. You can produce some credible documents if you
think I am wrong.

>
> So, please study, read more, do proper research than make comments.
>

I just asked a question and did not make any comment. Looks like it
provoked you way beyond it actually should. I am amused!

>
>
> There are plenty of documents, paper posting, books where those
> simple and primary information & facts, history are available and
> where your requested answer is also mentioned.

This is nothing more than hand waving.
Quote me any credible evidence before I buy your theory. I did not
see any evidence anywhere to suggest that Ziaur Rahman was a memebr
of Bakshal. By all evidence, Ziaur Rahman was not a member of
BAKSHAL and you are engaged in fallacy, falsehood and propaganda.
Geneal Shafiullah was a memebr of Bakshal but that was as Chief of
Staff and not in a personal capacity. The then BAKSHAL regime made
it mandatory for chiefs of the of the armed forces to join BAKSHAL.

>
> Gen Zia, the then deputy COS, requested some Awami League
> ministers, MPs & leaders to join Bangladesh Krisok Sromik Awami
> League.

This is incredible. A mlitary officer asking political authority to
join a political movement! This will beat even funny fairy tales!!

For argument's sake -even if it is true- couldn't the Awami
politicians commit suicide before they got their politial directive
from a military officer?

Even if he did, that does not automatically mean that he was a
member of BAKSHAL as such.

> So, think before ink!

You caused me to think enough...
Show me evidence and I will buy your theory. Otherwise it is
falsehood and fabrication.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Shafiqur Rahman Bhuiyan (ANU)
>
>
>
>


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