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Thursday, August 22, 2013

[chottala.com] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।



Watch the Film "The Children of the Fire" made by BBC, London, UK in December of 1972 on me (YOU CAN FIND IT IN YOUTUBE) and the read the article "The Peace Hero" written by Alex Broadie published in The New Internationalist" magazine from London, UK in April of 1973 and also read the article published in "The Daily Guardian" of London, UK in August 14, 1972.

You can now understand my age. I live in New York since 1985. If you live in Bangladesh and want to inquire about me then go to Gurudaspur Thana of Natore District.

You want to response to my posting, that's fine. I shall write back to you.

JOY BANGLA, JOY BANGOBANHU.



From: M. Aleem <aleem53@yahoo.com>
To: Dr. M. Mohsin Ali <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>; Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।


Dear Dr. M. Mohsin Ali,

Couple questions for you:

1. How old are you?
2. Where do you live?

I am thinking of writing in response to your e-mails, but it would be better I know your age and place you are in.

Thanks,
M. Aleem
 
 
 


From: Dr. M. Mohsin Ali <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>
To: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।


Mr. Hussaini,

Your failure to response to the specific points of my response proved that:

1. I am a real freedom fighter.

2. You were not a freedom fighter, rather you were either Razakar or Razakar/Pakistani supporter.

3. You lied

5. Your intelligence is limited only within Black Coat book.
6. You think that those who did not read the Black Coat book are not intelligent and do not know the history, you lied here again. Millions of people who did not read the black coat book are not less intelligent than you are.

7. Your Napit story is so old that it does not make you smarter than others. Rather, it makes you like a frog in the deep dug-well.

8. Bangobandhu always respected and regarded Moulana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhasani and Hossain Shahid Sohrowardi as his political teachers and leaders.

9. By citing your last name "Sohrowardy" you wanted to prove that you are carrying the blood of Hussain Shahid Sohrowardy. I do not know if it is true, but I doubt.

10. You always criticize Awami League, that's fine and I am not bothered with that. But as long as you support the Razakars, Jamat/Shibirs, and Pakistani Dalals and fight for them and fight to save them,you will be a Pakistani Dalal and Razakar/Terrorist promoters.

11. Beat your at least one drum and show what you have done something for Bangladesh and for the people of Bangladesh except attempting to kill Awami League/Bangobandhu/Sheikh Hasina and Dalali of Razakar/Terrorist/Pakistani.




From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: "drmohsinali@yahoo.com" <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।

Mr. Mohsin:
My last name is Suhrawardy, a it is there when i say or write something, wheather you like it or not. One of our Suhrawardy's had co-founded your party "Awami Muslim League" with Bangladesher 'Poth Prodorshok' Moulana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhashani.
 
I see a black coat on you. I also wear it occasionally, not because someone wore it but because my forefathers used to wear it. As you are black coat fan, I am suggesting you to start reading the book called "The Black Coat", then we will talk. When I said "empty vessel sound much", I meant about geo-political knowledge about the sub-continenet and history of Bangladeshi people. Ask yourself a question, "Why we are at this juncture, and how did it happened?". I am sure something will pop up in your nind and you will start pondering yourself and will ask yourself a question, "What the hell I am doing at this juncture of our Bangladesh Nationhood?"
 
Let me tell a story. A 'Napit' started to do oeration on people in a village. He was cheap. Doctors were upset on their future business. One day, a doctor, out of goodwill, gave the 'Napit' a book on "Human Body nad it's function', so that Napit becomes moe cautious and knowledgable on operation. After reading the book, Napit lost his command in taking operation cases. Do you know why?
After reading the book he found that he is doing all stupid things that he should not had done during operation.  He was taking too much risk with human being. He lost his confidence and the doctors got their business back.
You may not like me, but get a good political teacher or start researching yourself. There is nothing called 'Late in Life'.
The balck Coat could be a good start.
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy.

 

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:17:30 -0700
From: drmohsinali@yahoo.com
Subject: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
To: shahadathussaini@hotmail.com
CC: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com

YES, MR. HUSSAINI, YOU ARE RIGHT. I AM BEATING MY OWN DRUMS, BECAUSE, I HAVE DRUMS TO BEAT. MY DRUMS ARE NOT EMPTY. I AM PROUD THAT I FOUGHT FOR THE LIBERATION OF BANGLADESH. I WAS NOT ONLY A FREEDOM FIGHTER, I WAS A COMMANDER OF GURUDASPUR THANA FREEDOM FIGHTERS OF NATORE DISTRICT. YOU CAN CHECK WITH ANY PERSON IN GURUDASPUR THANA, YOU CAN CHECK WITH THE GOVERNMENT GAZETTES AND MUKTO-BARTA FOR THE LISTS OF THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS PREPARED DURING THE AWAMI LEAGUE, BNP AND ERSHAD GOVERNMENTS. IF YOU HAVE COURAGE, PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR DETAILS (AT LEAST THANA AND DISTRICT), I CAN CHECK THE LIST AND SPEAK TO YOUR THAN PEOPLE AND FIND ABOUT YOURSELF.




From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: "drmohsinali@yahoo.com" <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>
Cc: mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।

'Khali kolshi baje beshi', the provrb was created to name people like you ( I am definite). "Nijer dhol' nije ar koto bajaben?
How do you know that I am not fredom fighter. I think you belonged to 16th div. of Fighting force, which came to being after 16th Dec.
Please read the book called, "The Balck Coat". You will come to some sense that you know not much as you think. 
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy
 

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:06:37 -0700
From: drmohsinali@yahoo.com
Subject: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
To: shahadathussaini@hotmail.com
CC: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com

PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME THESE HISTORY. I KNOW THE HISTORY. TELLING A RAZAKAR OR A RAZAKAR SUPPORTER OR A PAKISTANI SUPPORTER IS NOT SLANDERING. PLEASE MIND YOUR WORDS. PLEASE CHECK YOUR POSTINGS OF THE LAST FEW YEARS AND DECIDE YOURSELF WHO HAS BEEN SLANDERING. I FOUGHT FOR THE LIBERATION WAR, NOT YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN ALWAYS SUPPORTING THE CAUSES OF THE RAZAKARS, TERRORISTS AND THE PAKISTANI LOVERS. ALL YOUR POSTINGS ARE THE PROOFS FOR THAT.

THANK YOU.



From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: "drmohsinali@yahoo.com" <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>; mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; rakhal Bondhu <rakhalbandho@gmail.com>
Cc: "mostofa@acebd.com" <mostofa@acebd.com>; bangladeshi googlesgroups <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>; "khabor@yahoogroups.com" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com>; chottala yahoogroups <chottala@yahoogroups.com>; bangladesh-progressives googlegroups <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>; Sayeda Haq <sayedahaq@yahoo.com>; saokot hossain <saokot_nccbl@yahoo.com>; Mohammad Gani <mgani69@gmail.com>; Bazlul Wahab <bazlul@yahoo.com>; Farzana Ahmed <farzana.ahmed48@yahoo.com>; farida <farida_majid@hotmail.com>; Zainul Abedin <zainul321@yahoo.com>; Kazi Muazzem <kazi4986@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।


Mr. Mohsin:
In name you are a Golam of prophet Muhammad (SA) but in words and acitivity you showing your self a 'Golam' of a political party. You can be 'Golam' of anything you wish but you have to keep you civility in words in public forum like this one. Please refrain from slendering personaly to anybody. You may disagree to anything, any idea or any party, that's your prerogative.
One thing you should know that we did fought for our independence because of power, parity, and polarization of the then coterie not for anything else that divided the Indian sub-continenet. That is true and will remauin true notter how much you cry.
 
For your kind information read the paragraph in quotation.
 
"১৯৭১-এর পরিস্থিতি ছিল খুবই জটিল। আওয়ামী লীগের অন্য নেতারা ভারতে গেলেও শেখ মুজিব চেষ্টা করেননি ভারতে যেতে। যদিও তিনি ভারতে যেতে চাইলে যেতে পারতেন খুবই সহজে। শেখ মুজিব ঠিক কী চেয়েছিলেন, আমরা তা জানি না। ১৯৭৪ সালের ৩০ অক্টোবর মার্কিন পররাষ্ট্র দফতরের সেক্রেটারি হেনরি কিসিঞ্জারকে ঢাকায় কথোপকথনের সময় বলেন, ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধ ছিল গৃহযুদ্ধ (Civil war)। তিনি ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মুক্তিযুদ্ধ বলে উল্লেখ করেননি। তার এই কথোপকথনের দলিল ছিল গোপন। ২০০৭ সালের ১১ অক্টোবর মার্কিন পররাষ্ট্র দফতর থেকে এই গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হয়। মার্কিন যুক্তরাষ্ট্রে প্রতি ৩০ বছর পরপর অনেক গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হয়। কারণ, মনে করা হয়, এসব গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হলে সুবিধা হবে ইতিহাস গ্রন্থ রচনার। শেখ মুজিব কিসিঞ্জারের সাথে কথালাপের সময় ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মুক্তিযুদ্ধ না বলে কেন গৃহযুদ্ধ হিসেবে উল্লেখ করেছেন, তা আমরা বলতে পারি না। যদিও আওয়ামী লীগ ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মহান মুক্তিযুদ্ধ বলেই উল্লেখ করে থাকে। শেখ মুজিব কী চেয়েছিলেন তা অন্য কারণেও আমরা বলতে পারি না। শেখ মুজিব ১৯৭০ সালে নির্বাচন করেছিলেন ইয়াহিয়া খান প্রদত্ত লিগ্যাল ফ্রেমওয়ার্ক অর্ডার মেনে। যাতে বলা হয়েছিল, পাকিস্তান হবে একটি প্রজাতন্ত্র। পাকিস্তানের রাষ্ট্রপ্রধান সব সময় হবেন একজন মুসলমান, আর রাষ্ট্রিক আদর্শ হিসেবে পাকিস্তান মেনে চলবে ইসলামি ভাবাদর্শ। শেখ মুজিব এই শর্তগুলো মেনেই করেছিলেন নির্বাচন। এর মধ্যে কোথাও ছিল না পাকিস্তান ভেঙে দেয়ার কথা। শেখ মুজিব তার ৭ মার্চের বিখ্যাত ভাষণে বলেছিলেন, তিনি হলেন পাকিস্তানের মেজরিটি পার্টির নেতা। তিনি নিজেকে ঘোষণা করেননি পূর্ব পাকিস্তান অথবা বাংলাদেশের নেতা হিসেবে। ভোটের রায় মানলে সাবেক পাকিস্তান ভেঙে যেত এরকম ভাবার কোনো কারণ নেই। শেখ মুজিব সাবেক পাকিস্তানকে ভেঙে দিতে চাননি। তিনি ৮ জানুয়ারি বর্তমান পাকিস্তান থেকে মুক্তি পেয়ে যান লন্ডনে। সেখানে গিয়ে সাংবাদিক এ্যান্থনি মাসকারেনহ্যাসকে বলেন, তিনি পাকিস্তান ভেঙে দিতে চাচ্ছেন না। বর্তমান পাকিস্তানের সাথে রাখতে চাচ্ছেন একটা বিশেষ সম্পর্ক।
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy.
 

 

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:51:41 -0700
From: drmohsinali@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; rakhalbandho@gmail.com
CC: shahadathussaini@hotmail.com; mostofa@acebd.com; bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com; khabor@yahoogroups.com; alochona@yahoogroups.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com; bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com

HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW WE FOUGHT AND LIBERATED BANGLADESH FROM HIS LOVING PAKISTAN. THEY ARE STILL DREAMING FOR THEIR PEAREY PAKISTAN. IT WAS NOT AWAMI LEAGUE, BUT ZIA WHO KILLED THE MOST FREEDOM FIGHTERS IN THE ARMY INCLUDING COL. TAHER AND THE CIVILIAN AND PUT THOUSANDS OF FREEDOM FIGHTERS IN JAIL INCLUDING MAJOR JALIL, MAJOR ZIA UDDIN AHMED AND THOUSANDS MORE.

PAKISTANI DALAS, STOP THESE NUISANCE FALSE PROPAGANDA.

A FREEDOM FIGHTER.



From: "Mostofa, Gholam" <gholam.mostofa@smec.com>
To: Rakhal Bandho <rakhalbandho@gmail.com>
Cc: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>; "mostofa@acebd.com" <mostofa@acebd.com>; bangladeshi googlesgroups <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>; "khabor@yahoogroups.com" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com>; chottala yahoogroups <chottala@yahoogroups.com>; mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; bangladesh-progressives googlegroups <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:55 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।

 
This Rakhal is the son of a Paki Razakar. Why should we listen to them?

Sent from my iPhone:
Dr Gholam Mostofa

On Aug 20, 2013, at 5:25 AM, "Rakhal Bandho" <rakhalbandho@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Jabbar does not know that after the great victory of 1971 election through the votes of freedom lover Bengalis Shiekh Mujib wanted to be the President of Pakistan but the arrogant Bhutto became a big hurdle for Mujib and that people of this country did not tolerate. Later the MuktiJoddha started without the participation of leaders of Awami League who fled to India. After retuning from India these buggers started the concept of Muktijudher Pokkhay and Bipokkhay as they were not able to claim themselves as freedom fighters though later they distributed Freedom fighter certificates. Interestingly they put the real Muktijuddhas in jail by designating them GonoBahini... That is the reason people danced in the streets of Bangladesh after the fall of BAKSAL...
Where this Mr. Jabbar was living at that time?    

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:
 "বাংলাদেশের সাধারণ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধকে গর্বের বিষয় হিসেবে দেখে এবং সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের। ফলে এই সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ তাদের পছন্দ হিসেবে আওয়ামী লীগকে বেছে নিতে পারে। নৌকার একটি ব্রান্ড ইমেজ আছে এবং সেই ইমেজ এবারের নির্বাচনেও কাজে লাগবে। শেখ হাসিনার ছেলে সজীব ওয়াজেদ জয় রাজনৈতিক মঞ্চে অবতীর্ণ হয়ে তেমন কথাই বলে বেড়াচ্ছেন। তবে তারা মনে করে যে, স্বাধীনতার পক্ষের সকল শক্তিকে একসঙ্গে নির্বাচন করতে হবে। সাধারণ মানুষ আরও মনে করে, জামায়াত ও হেফাজত আওয়ামী লীগের বিরোধিতা করে স্বাধীনতার পক্ষের সকল শক্তিকে ঐক্যবদ্ধ করার ক্ষেত্রে সহায়ক হয়েছে।"
 
Mr. Jabbar,
I agree with you that whole bangla desh is proud of "Muktijuddho". But I disagree with you on 'pokkho, bipokkho'.
Where did you find that statistics that Bangladeshi people (minority according to you) are there who are against "Muktijuddho"? Please cite authentic references. If you are right then Awami's would have been in power for 42 years without break. That means you are wrong in your argument. People of Bangladesh have elected others with overwhelming majority and they did not do unwillingly.
 
In my opinion, there are none who is against "Muktijuddho" but are are many who are against the sovreignity of Bangladesh. In Bangladesh, the people who are against the sovereignity are minority and they veruy much exoposed now and most of the people know and identfy them well and their political ambition may be in jeopardy for ever like Muslim League.
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy 



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[chottala.com] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।




Mr. Hussaini,

Your failure to response to the specific points of my response proved that:

1. I am a real freedom fighter.

2. You were not a freedom fighter, rather you were either Razakar or Razakar/Pakistani supporter.

3. You lied

5. Your intelligence is limited only within Black Coat book.
6. You think that those who did not read the Black Coat book are not intelligent and do not know the history, you lied here again. Millions of people who did not read the black coat book are not less intelligent than you are.

7. Your Napit story is so old that it does not make you smarter than others. Rather, it makes you like a frog in the deep dug-well.

8. Bangobandhu always respected and regarded Moulana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhasani and Hossain Shahid Sohrowardi as his political teachers and leaders.

9. By citing your last name "Sohrowardy" you wanted to prove that you are carrying the blood of Hussain Shahid Sohrowardy. I do not know if it is true, but I doubt.

10. You always criticize Awami League, that's fine and I am not bothered with that. But as long as you support the Razakars, Jamat/Shibirs, and Pakistani Dalals and fight for them and fight to save them,you will be a Pakistani Dalal and Razakar/Terrorist promoters.

11. Beat your at least one drum and show what you have done something for Bangladesh and for the people of Bangladesh except attempting to kill Awami League/Bangobandhu/Sheikh Hasina and Dalali of Razakar/Terrorist/Pakistani.




From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।

Mr. Mohsin:
My last name is Suhrawardy, a it is there when i say or write something, wheather you like it or not. One of our Suhrawardy's had co-founded your party "Awami Muslim League" with Bangladesher 'Poth Prodorshok' Moulana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhashani.
 
I see a black coat on you. I also wear it occasionally, not because someone wore it but because my forefathers used to wear it. As you are black coat fan, I am suggesting you to start reading the book called "The Black Coat", then we will talk. When I said "empty vessel sound much", I meant about geo-political knowledge about the sub-continenet and history of Bangladeshi people. Ask yourself a question, "Why we are at this juncture, and how did it happened?". I am sure something will pop up in your nind and you will start pondering yourself and will ask yourself a question, "What the hell I am doing at this juncture of our Bangladesh Nationhood?"
 
Let me tell a story. A 'Napit' started to do oeration on people in a village. He was cheap. Doctors were upset on their future business. One day, a doctor, out of goodwill, gave the 'Napit' a book on "Human Body nad it's function', so that Napit becomes moe cautious and knowledgable on operation. After reading the book, Napit lost his command in taking operation cases. Do you know why?
After reading the book he found that he is doing all stupid things that he should not had done during operation.  He was taking too much risk with human being. He lost his confidence and the doctors got their business back.
You may not like me, but get a good political teacher or start researching yourself. There is nothing called 'Late in Life'.
The balck Coat could be a good start.
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy.

 

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:17:30 -0700
From: drmohsinali@yahoo.com
Subject: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
To: shahadathussaini@hotmail.com
CC: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com

YES, MR. HUSSAINI, YOU ARE RIGHT. I AM BEATING MY OWN DRUMS, BECAUSE, I HAVE DRUMS TO BEAT. MY DRUMS ARE NOT EMPTY. I AM PROUD THAT I FOUGHT FOR THE LIBERATION OF BANGLADESH. I WAS NOT ONLY A FREEDOM FIGHTER, I WAS A COMMANDER OF GURUDASPUR THANA FREEDOM FIGHTERS OF NATORE DISTRICT. YOU CAN CHECK WITH ANY PERSON IN GURUDASPUR THANA, YOU CAN CHECK WITH THE GOVERNMENT GAZETTES AND MUKTO-BARTA FOR THE LISTS OF THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS PREPARED DURING THE AWAMI LEAGUE, BNP AND ERSHAD GOVERNMENTS. IF YOU HAVE COURAGE, PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR DETAILS (AT LEAST THANA AND DISTRICT), I CAN CHECK THE LIST AND SPEAK TO YOUR THAN PEOPLE AND FIND ABOUT YOURSELF.




From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: "drmohsinali@yahoo.com" <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>
Cc: mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।

'Khali kolshi baje beshi', the provrb was created to name people like you ( I am definite). "Nijer dhol' nije ar koto bajaben?
How do you know that I am not fredom fighter. I think you belonged to 16th div. of Fighting force, which came to being after 16th Dec.
Please read the book called, "The Balck Coat". You will come to some sense that you know not much as you think. 
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy
 

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:06:37 -0700
From: drmohsinali@yahoo.com
Subject: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
To: shahadathussaini@hotmail.com
CC: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com

PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME THESE HISTORY. I KNOW THE HISTORY. TELLING A RAZAKAR OR A RAZAKAR SUPPORTER OR A PAKISTANI SUPPORTER IS NOT SLANDERING. PLEASE MIND YOUR WORDS. PLEASE CHECK YOUR POSTINGS OF THE LAST FEW YEARS AND DECIDE YOURSELF WHO HAS BEEN SLANDERING. I FOUGHT FOR THE LIBERATION WAR, NOT YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN ALWAYS SUPPORTING THE CAUSES OF THE RAZAKARS, TERRORISTS AND THE PAKISTANI LOVERS. ALL YOUR POSTINGS ARE THE PROOFS FOR THAT.

THANK YOU.



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Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।


Mr. Mohsin:
In name you are a Golam of prophet Muhammad (SA) but in words and acitivity you showing your self a 'Golam' of a political party. You can be 'Golam' of anything you wish but you have to keep you civility in words in public forum like this one. Please refrain from slendering personaly to anybody. You may disagree to anything, any idea or any party, that's your prerogative.
One thing you should know that we did fought for our independence because of power, parity, and polarization of the then coterie not for anything else that divided the Indian sub-continenet. That is true and will remauin true notter how much you cry.
 
For your kind information read the paragraph in quotation.
 
"১৯৭১-এর পরিস্থিতি ছিল খুবই জটিল। আওয়ামী লীগের অন্য নেতারা ভারতে গেলেও শেখ মুজিব চেষ্টা করেননি ভারতে যেতে। যদিও তিনি ভারতে যেতে চাইলে যেতে পারতেন খুবই সহজে। শেখ মুজিব ঠিক কী চেয়েছিলেন, আমরা তা জানি না। ১৯৭৪ সালের ৩০ অক্টোবর মার্কিন পররাষ্ট্র দফতরের সেক্রেটারি হেনরি কিসিঞ্জারকে ঢাকায় কথোপকথনের সময় বলেন, ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধ ছিল গৃহযুদ্ধ (Civil war)। তিনি ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মুক্তিযুদ্ধ বলে উল্লেখ করেননি। তার এই কথোপকথনের দলিল ছিল গোপন। ২০০৭ সালের ১১ অক্টোবর মার্কিন পররাষ্ট্র দফতর থেকে এই গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হয়। মার্কিন যুক্তরাষ্ট্রে প্রতি ৩০ বছর পরপর অনেক গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হয়। কারণ, মনে করা হয়, এসব গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হলে সুবিধা হবে ইতিহাস গ্রন্থ রচনার। শেখ মুজিব কিসিঞ্জারের সাথে কথালাপের সময় ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মুক্তিযুদ্ধ না বলে কেন গৃহযুদ্ধ হিসেবে উল্লেখ করেছেন, তা আমরা বলতে পারি না। যদিও আওয়ামী লীগ ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মহান মুক্তিযুদ্ধ বলেই উল্লেখ করে থাকে। শেখ মুজিব কী চেয়েছিলেন তা অন্য কারণেও আমরা বলতে পারি না। শেখ মুজিব ১৯৭০ সালে নির্বাচন করেছিলেন ইয়াহিয়া খান প্রদত্ত লিগ্যাল ফ্রেমওয়ার্ক অর্ডার মেনে। যাতে বলা হয়েছিল, পাকিস্তান হবে একটি প্রজাতন্ত্র। পাকিস্তানের রাষ্ট্রপ্রধান সব সময় হবেন একজন মুসলমান, আর রাষ্ট্রিক আদর্শ হিসেবে পাকিস্তান মেনে চলবে ইসলামি ভাবাদর্শ। শেখ মুজিব এই শর্তগুলো মেনেই করেছিলেন নির্বাচন। এর মধ্যে কোথাও ছিল না পাকিস্তান ভেঙে দেয়ার কথা। শেখ মুজিব তার ৭ মার্চের বিখ্যাত ভাষণে বলেছিলেন, তিনি হলেন পাকিস্তানের মেজরিটি পার্টির নেতা। তিনি নিজেকে ঘোষণা করেননি পূর্ব পাকিস্তান অথবা বাংলাদেশের নেতা হিসেবে। ভোটের রায় মানলে সাবেক পাকিস্তান ভেঙে যেত এরকম ভাবার কোনো কারণ নেই। শেখ মুজিব সাবেক পাকিস্তানকে ভেঙে দিতে চাননি। তিনি ৮ জানুয়ারি বর্তমান পাকিস্তান থেকে মুক্তি পেয়ে যান লন্ডনে। সেখানে গিয়ে সাংবাদিক এ্যান্থনি মাসকারেনহ্যাসকে বলেন, তিনি পাকিস্তান ভেঙে দিতে চাচ্ছেন না। বর্তমান পাকিস্তানের সাথে রাখতে চাচ্ছেন একটা বিশেষ সম্পর্ক।
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy.
 

 

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:51:41 -0700
From: drmohsinali@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; rakhalbandho@gmail.com
CC: shahadathussaini@hotmail.com; mostofa@acebd.com; bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com; khabor@yahoogroups.com; alochona@yahoogroups.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com; bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com

HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW WE FOUGHT AND LIBERATED BANGLADESH FROM HIS LOVING PAKISTAN. THEY ARE STILL DREAMING FOR THEIR PEAREY PAKISTAN. IT WAS NOT AWAMI LEAGUE, BUT ZIA WHO KILLED THE MOST FREEDOM FIGHTERS IN THE ARMY INCLUDING COL. TAHER AND THE CIVILIAN AND PUT THOUSANDS OF FREEDOM FIGHTERS IN JAIL INCLUDING MAJOR JALIL, MAJOR ZIA UDDIN AHMED AND THOUSANDS MORE.

PAKISTANI DALAS, STOP THESE NUISANCE FALSE PROPAGANDA.

A FREEDOM FIGHTER.



From: "Mostofa, Gholam" <gholam.mostofa@smec.com>
To: Rakhal Bandho <rakhalbandho@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:55 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।

 
This Rakhal is the son of a Paki Razakar. Why should we listen to them?

Sent from my iPhone:
Dr Gholam Mostofa

On Aug 20, 2013, at 5:25 AM, "Rakhal Bandho" <rakhalbandho@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Jabbar does not know that after the great victory of 1971 election through the votes of freedom lover Bengalis Shiekh Mujib wanted to be the President of Pakistan but the arrogant Bhutto became a big hurdle for Mujib and that people of this country did not tolerate. Later the MuktiJoddha started without the participation of leaders of Awami League who fled to India. After retuning from India these buggers started the concept of Muktijudher Pokkhay and Bipokkhay as they were not able to claim themselves as freedom fighters though later they distributed Freedom fighter certificates. Interestingly they put the real Muktijuddhas in jail by designating them GonoBahini... That is the reason people danced in the streets of Bangladesh after the fall of BAKSAL...
Where this Mr. Jabbar was living at that time?    

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:
 "বাংলাদেশের সাধারণ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধকে গর্বের বিষয় হিসেবে দেখে এবং সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের। ফলে এই সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ তাদের পছন্দ হিসেবে আওয়ামী লীগকে বেছে নিতে পারে। নৌকার একটি ব্রান্ড ইমেজ আছে এবং সেই ইমেজ এবারের নির্বাচনেও কাজে লাগবে। শেখ হাসিনার ছেলে সজীব ওয়াজেদ জয় রাজনৈতিক মঞ্চে অবতীর্ণ হয়ে তেমন কথাই বলে বেড়াচ্ছেন। তবে তারা মনে করে যে, স্বাধীনতার পক্ষের সকল শক্তিকে একসঙ্গে নির্বাচন করতে হবে। সাধারণ মানুষ আরও মনে করে, জামায়াত ও হেফাজত আওয়ামী লীগের বিরোধিতা করে স্বাধীনতার পক্ষের সকল শক্তিকে ঐক্যবদ্ধ করার ক্ষেত্রে সহায়ক হয়েছে।"
 
Mr. Jabbar,
I agree with you that whole bangla desh is proud of "Muktijuddho". But I disagree with you on 'pokkho, bipokkho'.
Where did you find that statistics that Bangladeshi people (minority according to you) are there who are against "Muktijuddho"? Please cite authentic references. If you are right then Awami's would have been in power for 42 years without break. That means you are wrong in your argument. People of Bangladesh have elected others with overwhelming majority and they did not do unwillingly.
 
In my opinion, there are none who is against "Muktijuddho" but are are many who are against the sovreignity of Bangladesh. In Bangladesh, the people who are against the sovereignity are minority and they veruy much exoposed now and most of the people know and identfy them well and their political ambition may be in jeopardy for ever like Muslim League.
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy 



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