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Thursday, March 10, 2011

Re: [chottala.com] Re: The need for balanced and pragmatic views on all issues



ঝড়ের নাম প্রফেসার ইউনূস

 

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এবছর দেশ থেকে কোনও বড়রকমের ঝড়ের খবর আসেনি---প্রাকৃতিক, রাজনৈতিক বা আর্থসামাজিক, কোন প্রকারেরই না। সেটা ভাল খবর। আমরা, দেশবিদেশের অনাবাসী বাংলাদেশীরা, ধীরে ধীরে অভ্যস্ত হয়ে উঠছিলাম সেই অসম্ভব সুন্দর 'ভাল' শব্দটিতে, আশ্বস্ত হয়ে উঠছিলাম একটু একটু করে যে অভাগা দেশটির ভাঙ্গা নৌকার ছেঁড়া মাস্তূলে বুঝি পালের হাওয়া বইতে শুরু করেছে এতকাল পর। কিন্তু না, তা হয় কি করে! ঝড়ের দেশ কি ঝড় ছাড়া বাঁচতে পারে? এবার প্রকৃতি বা বিরোধী দল নয়, সরকার নিজেই একটা ঝড় সৃষ্টি করে দিলেন। সেই ঝড়ের নাম 'প্রফসার মুহাম্মদ ইউনূস'।
আজকে ই-মেইল খুলে দেখি মুহম্মদ জাফর ইকবালের লেখা (৫ই মার্চ, '১১) "প্রফেসার মুহাম্মদ ইউনূস ও বাংলাদেশ" শীর্ষক নিবন্ধটির একটা অনুলিপি পাঠিয়েছেন আমাকে কোনও সহৃদয় স্বদেশী। জাফর ইকবালের লেখা পড়ে আমি সবসময়ই আনন্দ পাই---তাঁর মতামতের সঙ্গে প্রায় কখনোই আমার মতানৈক্য হয়না। তবে তাঁর এবারকার লেখাটির প্রথম বাক্যটির সাথে সম্পূর্ণ একমত হতে পারছি না। তিনি লিখেছেনঃ "যাঁরা প্রফেসার মুহাম্মদ ইউনূস, গ্রামীণ ব্যাংক, বাংলাদেশ সরকার এবং দেশের আইনকানুন নিয়ে নির্মোহ, বস্তুনিষ্ঠ এবং নিরপেক্ষ আলোচনা পড়তে চান, তাঁদের এ লেখাটি পড়ার প্রয়োজন নেই"। লেখক নিজেকে "অত্যন্ত পক্ষপাতদুষ্ট" ব্যক্তি বলে ব্যক্ত করেছেন; সেটা তাঁর স্বভাবসিদ্ধ বিনয়নম্রতা যতটা প্রকাশ করে বাস্তবতা হয়ত ততটা করে না। তবে আমার আপত্তির কারণ অন্যত্রঃ তাঁর এই বাক্যটিতে যে-ক'টি বিশেষণ তিনি ব্যবহার করেছেন সেই বিশেষণযুক্ত ব্যক্তি সারা বাংলাদেশ খুঁজলে ক'জন পাওয়া যাবে সেবিষয়ে আমার কিঞ্চিৎ সন্দেহ আছে। গণিতের ভাষায় বলতে গেলে তাঁর বর্ণিত সেটটি একেবারে void না হলেও অনেকটা sparse বলেই আমার ব্যক্তিগত বিশ্বাস।(লজ্জার মাথা খেয়ে বলতে বাধ্য হচ্ছি যে আমি নিজে সেই বিপুল void শ্রেনীরই অন্তর্গত)।
প্রফেসার ইউনূসকে যখন শান্তির নোবেল দেওয়া হয় ২০০৬  সালে তখন দেশব্যাপী যে তুমুল আনন্দধ্বনি বজ্রস্বরে ঝংকৃত হয়ে উঠেছিল টেকনাফ থেকে তেতুলিয়া পর্যন্ত, তার সঙ্গে ক্রিকেট খেলার বিজয়োৎসবের হর্ষধ্বনির খানিক মিল আছে সন্দেহ নেই। দুটোই দেশের বিরল গৌরবে জাতির উল্লাসে উচ্ছ্বাসে উদ্বেল হয়ে উঠার ব্যাপার। কিন্তু দু'টি গৌরব ঠিক একই সারিতে ফেলার মত নয়। ক্রিকেট নিয়ে দেশবাসীর একরকম নেশাগ্রস্ততা সৃষ্টি হয়েছে ঠিকই, অনেকটা ব্রেজিল আর কলম্বিয়ার ফুটবলাসক্তির মত, কিন্তু মূলত ক্রিকেট আর ফুটবল দুটোই খেলা ছাড়া কিছু নয়। শান্তির নোবেল বা অন্য যে-কোনও নোবেল তা নয়। নোবেল যাঁরা পান তাঁরা খেলার মাঠের খেলোয়াড় নন, বিশ্বমঞ্চের খেলোয়াড়। ক্রিকেটে যদি বিশ্বজয়ীও হয় কোনদিন বাংলাদেশ (নিশ্চয়ই হবে কোন-না-কোনদিন) তাহলেও তাতে শুধু একটা জিনিসই প্রমাণ হবে যে অন্তত একটি আন্তর্জাতিক খেলাতে বাংলাদেশ বিশ্বমানের পর্যায়ে উন্নীত হয়েছে, জাতিহিসেবে তারা যত অনুন্নতই হোক। কিন্তু মুহাম্মদ ইউনূসের নোবেলের মূল বিষয়টি আরো ব্যাপক। সেটি হল এইঃ আমাদের দেশ, আমাদের এই প্রাণের দেশ, বাংলাদেশ, এত দুঃখদারিদ্র্য সত্ত্বেও, তার চিত্তে চেতনায় বোধে এতই শক্তি আর এতই সম্ভার রয়েছে  যে তারই এক কৃতী সন্তান, ডক্টর মুহাম্মদ ইউনূস, তাঁর নিজের স্বপ্নের বীজ ছড়িয়ে দিতে পেরেছেন সমস্ত বিশ্বব্যাপী, যে বীজ থেকে উৎপন্ন হতে চলেছে বিশ্বদারিদ্র্য মোচনের এক বিপুল সম্ভাবনার মায়াবৃক্ষ। '০৬ সালের আগে বিশ্বদরবারে বাংলাদেশের কোনও সম্মান ছিল না, ছিল না কোন মানমর্যাদা। সেটা দেশের মানুষ মানতে না চাইলেও আমরা যারা দেশের বাইরে আছি বহুকাল তারা ভাল করেই জানি। জাফর ইকবালের লেখাতেও সেটা প্রকাশ পেয়েছে। কিন্তু '০৬ সালের নোবেল ঘোষণা আমাদের দেশটিকে রাতারাতি একটা ভিন্ন মাত্রাতে পৌঁছে দেয় গোটা পৃথিবীতে। সহসা বাংলাদেশ নামক দেশটির প্রতি দৃষ্টি নিক্ষেপ করতে লাগলেন দেশবিদেশের গুনীজনেরা। '৭২ থেকে '০৬ পর্যন্ত আমরা ছিলাম দানপ্রার্থী গ্রহীতা জাতি, এই প্রথমবারের মত আমরা আসন পেলাম দাতাদের কাতারে। না, অর্থের দাতা নয়, ত্রাণসম্পদের দাতাও নয়, আমরা হলাম স্বপ্নের দাতা, আশার দাতা। ডক্টর ইউনূস একটা ব্যাংক তৈরি করার জন্যে নোবেল পাননি, পেয়েছিলেন একটা বিশাল আইডিয়া দিতে পেরেছিলেন বলে বিশ্ববাসীকে। মানুষের পরিচয় তার জাতধর্ম বা বংশ দিয়ে নয়, পরিচয় তার কাজে। কিন্তু সব কাজ মানুষকে সমান মর্যাদা দেয় না, কারণ সব কাজের সমান মূল্য নয়। কোন কোন কাজ কোন কোন মানুষকে সাধারণের সমতল থেকে উত্তোলিত করে  ক্ষণজন্মাদের দরবারে হাজির করে দেয়---তারা অমর হয়। তারা অমর হয় কারণ তারা নিজেদের অজান্তে আরো অনেক মানুষের জীবনে আমূল পরিবর্তন এনে দেন, নৈরাশ্যের অন্ধকারে জ্বালান আলোর মশাল, প্রেরণা যোগান আশাহীন প্রাণে, ক্ষমতা যোগান ক্ষমতাহীনের মনে---ভবিষ্যতের অমরদের জন্যে রচনা করে দেনআগামী পথের নীলনক্সা। ডক্টর ইউনূসের বড় কাজ তাঁর গ্রামীণ ব্যাংক নয়, বড় কাজ তাঁর সেই মৌলিক আইডিয়াটি---ক্ষুদ্রেরও বৃহৎ হবার অধিকার আছে, বিশেষ করে সমাজের সবচেয়ে বঞ্চিত, অবহেলিত ও নিগৃহীত যে নারীজাতি, তাদেরও আছে স্বাবলম্বী হবার সহজাত অধিকার। এই সহজ বিশ্বাসটিকে তিনি বাস্তবায়ন করার একটি পন্থা এঁকে দিয়েছিলেন, যা কেউ কল্পনা করেনি আগে, দেশে বা বিদেশে, প্রথমে নিজ দেশের ভাগ্যাহত নারীকূলের জন্যে, পরে গোটা বিশ্ববাসীদের জন্যে। '০৬ সালের নোবেল ছিল সেই ঋণেরই বিনীত স্বীকৃতি মাত্র। প্রফেসার ইউনূসের আইডিয়া আজকে পৃথিবীর বহু দেশে অনুসৃত হচ্ছে বিপুল সাফল্যের সাথে। এমনকি বিশ্বের সর্বোন্নত দেশ যুক্তরাষ্ট্রেরও শিকাগো সহ বিভিন্ন শহরে গ্রামীণ ব্যাংকের মডেল অনুসরণ করে উপকৃত হচ্ছেন বলেন শোনা যাচ্ছে অনেক দরিদ্র সম্প্রদায়।
আমি জানি দেশের বুদ্ধিজীবি মহলের একটা বড় অংশ ডক্টর ইউনূসকে কেবল 'সুদখোর' হিসেবেই দেখতে প্রস্তুত, তাঁর অন্যান্য পরিচয়ে তাঁদের যেন কোনরকম আগ্রহ নেই। অথচ আমি যতদূর জানি সারা বিশ্বের বুদ্ধিজীবিরা কিন্তু ডক্টর ইউনূসের প্রশংসায় পঞ্চমুখ। এমনকি অনেক পথের মানুষের মুখেও তাঁর নাম শুনেছি। এদেশের গুণিজনদের বিচারে ডক্টর ইউনূস, যুক্তরাষ্ট্রের প্রয়াত মার্টিন লুথার কিং, কেনিয়ার কিংবদন্তীয় সমাজকর্মী ওয়াঙ্গারি মুটা মাথাই, এঁরা প্রায় একই কাতারের মানুষ---পথিকৃৎ, স্বপ্নদ্রষ্টা, নায়ক। মার্টিন লুথার পুরো একটা জাতিকে হতাশার গভীর অন্ধকার  থেকে জাগ্রত করে একটি সিংহশক্তিতে পরিণত করেছিলেন "আমার একটি স্বপ্ন আছে"র যাদুমন্ত্রে উদ্বুদ্ধ করে। ওয়াঙ্গারি মাথাই কেনিয়ার মত একটি পশ্চাদপদ, গোত্রবাদী ও অগণতান্ত্রিক দেশটিতে সূচনা করেছিলেন দীর্ঘসূত্রীয় উন্নয়ন, জাতীয়তাবোধ ও অগ্রপন্থী চিন্তার বলিষ্ঠ ধারা। আর আমাদের এই প্রিয় মানুষটি, এই যুদ্ধক্লান্ত ভগ্নপ্রাণ ডক্টর ইউনূস, আজকে যাকে বনের নিরীহ প্রাণীর মত ধাওয়া করে বেড়াচ্ছে একপাল হিংস্র জীব, সেই মানুষটিও তেমনি করে এক বিশাল স্বপ্নের বাণী নিয়ে এনেছিলেন বিশ্বদরবারেঃ আসুন আমরা সবাই মিলে কাজে লেগে যাই---আমরা একদিন দারিদ্র্যকে নির্বাসনে পাঠিয়ে দেব, দারিদ্র্য হবে ইতিহাসের পাতায় কৌতূহলের বস্তু। দেশের বিজ্ঞ সুধীজনেরা হয়ত বলবেন পাগলের প্রলাপ। উণ্মাদ। হতে পারে উণ্মাদ আমাদের দেশের মহামহিমদের বিচারে, কিন্তু সত্যিকার দরদ্রি যারা, তাদের জন্যে এ এক বড় স্বপ্ন। জীবনের অধিকাংশ সময় তো তাদের একমাত্র সহায়ই ওই স্বপ্নটুকু। তাছাড়া আপনারাই বলুন, বড় স্বপ্ন ছাড়া কি পৃথিবীতে সত্যিকার বড় কাজ কখনও হয়েছে?
দয়া করে, দোহাই আপনাদের, এই লোকটিকে এমন করে আর ধাওয়া করবেন না আপনারা। আপনারা শুনতে পাচ্ছেন কিনা জানিনা, পৃথিবীর চারদিকে আজকে ধিক ধিক আওয়াজ শুরু হয়ে গেছে। দেশের মানসম্মান যেটুকু ছিল সব আমরা খোয়াতে বসেছি এই আশ্চর্যরকম অর্বাচীন কাজটুকুর জন্যে। গোটা বিশ্বে এমন একটি দেশ নেই যেখানে চিন্তাশীল মানুষেরা বিস্ময়বিমূঢ় হয়ে পড়ছেন নাবাংলাদেশের এই অদ্ভুত আচরণে।

অটোয়া, ৭ই মার্চ,'১১
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On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dear Saif bhai:

 

Assalamualikum. I choose to address you as Saif bhai cause in your previous two responses you mentioned me as Helal Bhai. It feels much closer when someone addresses you as bhai. Though you are much elder to me, I'm flattered that you addressed me that way.

 

Hope you are not going to harm me after knowing my whereaboutsJ. I have been way from home since the beginning of 1996 but fortunate enough to go home on regular basis sometime twice a year. I moved to Canada from US in 2004 and currently residing in greater Toronto area (GTA). I earned an MBA degree from Chittagong University and a second one from Texas A&M - Commerce. My late father wondered how I managed to complete two MBA degrees without much study. I convinced him that it was His and my Mother's non-stop prayers helped me get through.

 

Though I left my country for better future (physically) but I'm always there through my soul. Bangladesh gave me so much that, at times, I feel ashamed for not being able to give anything back to Her. Currently I'm trying to establish IT outsourcing business with Bangladesh so that our next generation might have a better prospect ahead of them. If i fail, at least, i will be able tell myself that i tried.

 

I hope I shared enough to give you an idea about me. You may reach me at 647 828-3796 if you feel like yelling for arguing with a respected retired ambassador.

 

Thanks.

Helal

--- On Thu, 3/10/11, md. saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com> wrote:


From: md. saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com>
Subject: The need for balanced and pragmatic views on all issues
To: "Helal Ahmed" <huahmed@yahoo.com>
Cc: alapon@yahoogroups.com, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>, "Abba" <hussain7192@rogers.com>, khabor@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Nuran Nabi" <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 12:08 PM

Dear Bhai Helal

I have read your email response.

Thanks for your balanced response to my comment and observation.

But I think that you continue to remain unfair in your remarks on Dr. Nabi and freedom fighters.

Let us not be in real haste to reply back again to you. I hope to share some further thoughts on the overall issue next week.

I am a bit intrigued as to how long you are abroad and where are you based. So enlighten us further on this point later at your discretion and time convenient to you.


Saif Khan






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It's time to look at the history with objectivity and role of 'God Father' Seikh Mujib. The myth about 3 million dead should be exposed as Seikh Mujib lied relentlessly with those dead  souls.
 
Aslam and those old party boys club should vanquish from the face of the history book. Enough is enough, Awami League is playing this 'rajakar-muktijudho' game for last 40 years. Now, we need to disect the history and reveal the truth. Sarmila Bose has some points, we need to listen to all sides of the story, not Seikh Hasina's constant distortion of history. Anyone speaking out against those lies will be smeared. This is the true face of Awami League.
 
Aslam and all those old party boys club need to be unearthed with their ugly face. We need to see the truth. War is devastating, but, telling lies about the war is even more ugly! The new generation of brave souls need to know the true story of the war, the distorted contribution of Mujib and corruption of his sons and nephews.
 
 
 
--- On Thu, 3/10/11, Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
Subject: [KHABOR] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Khobor" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, "notun Bangladesh" <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 9:09 AM

 
Mr. Helal

You have said:
 
"Pls accept my sincere apology if I hurt you with this mail."
 
Wah !!!!! What a pretention .....
 
You have already proved through your innuendeos who you are ..... and
where are you comming from ..... You tried your best to divert from the main
thread (protest against Sarmila Bose ) by mixing up issues...
 
It is not an isolated phenomenon that you are now getting congratulatory salutes
from well know quarters who masquerade themselves as patriots...........
[Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel .....]
 
The mass killing (genocide) and mass rape in 1971 was a official policy of the
Pakistani occupation regime ... and those were one the worst genocide and
mass-rape in human history ...... Do you want to white-wash the 1971-Pakistani
attrocities by disputing the numbers .... Is that your tactics to absolve  the
worst criminals, (Pakistani occupation regime and the accessories/collaborators 
viz. Al-Bodor/-Razaker-Al-shams gangs) of their guilts?
 
Undoubtly, Sarmila Bose is a distortionist and falsifier of history ...
She must be exposed and protested ....
 
In My Lai Massacre in Vietnam (1968) mass murder of unarmed 347–504   civilians.was conducted by an unit of the US Army.
Pakistan Army has conducted thousands of My Lai Ty Massacre in
Bangladesh during their occupation in 1971 as their official policy.. Most villages
and towns of Bangladesh have witnessed those mass-murders & mass-rapes.....!!!!!
 
 
Syed Aslam

 
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:56 PM, anis.ahmed@netzero.com <anis.ahmed@netzero.net> wrote:
 
Mr. Helal Ahmed:
 
You're a real Bangladeshi. I salute you for your true feelings and courageous voice for Bangladesh and for the people of Bangladesh. My hats off for your logical expressions without any fear of dangers from near or short distant enemies.
 
Thanks,
 
Anis Ahmed, Maryland 

 
Assalamualikum Dear Dr. Nuran Nabi.
 
My name is Helal Ahmed and i born in 1970. I'm very proud of you as a living Freedom fighter as I'm proud of my Father-in-law and late father. You and my Father-in-law faced the bullet in the forefront and my late father fought the war in a different way. I wish I was born at that time to do the same. I understand your sentiment towards 1971.
 
What i don't understand is that in this forum, i do not see you or any other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or thousands of innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian border force.
 
I guess you and some of the Freedom fighters fought the war against Pakistan not for Bangladesh. If you fought for Bangladesh, than i should have seen your anger against the Felani killer just the way you showed your anger towards Pakistani murderers.
 
Also, in our 1971 war, 3 million people didn't die. The mentioned number was a slip of tongue by Bongobondhu. And people are Bangladesh can't even talk about it as they might be labeled as Razakar. For the sake of new generation, it is your duty to tell the truth.
 
Pls accept my sincere apology if I hurt you with this mail. As a generation after 1970, I'm just tired of seeing Bangladeshis keep talking about old enemy and being mum of new enemy.
 
FYI, as you are, I also want the trial of 1971 war criminals. But I don't think our neighboring country want this issue to be resolved as this the only way to keep Bangladesh divided and let us in fighting. See, people like you and me, living in different countries, from completely different generations, still wasting our time to argue over something which should have been solved 40 years ago.
 
I'm very much in doubt that current AL government will complete the trial. After the five long years, they will say they have to come back to power again to finish the trial.
 
Thanks in advance for your understanding.
 
Helal


--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Subject: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: alapon@yahoogroups.com, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:42 PM

 
I would appreciate if you post this in your group

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Subject: Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: mike.vandusen@wilsoncenter.org


Mr. Mike Van Dusen
Executive Vice President of the Woodrow Wilson Center for Internatio​nal Scholars
 
Dear Mr. Van Dusen,
 
It is with great dismay I tell you that you have organized an event with a controversial writer Sarmila Bose in the month of March which is the 40th  anniversary of the beginning of Bangladesh genocide 1971 where 3 million people were killed, 200 thousand women were raped, 10 million people were forced to become refugees to lead a sub-human life during 9 months of the war..
 
These crimes against humanity are well documented including a book by USA Consul General in Dhaka Late Mr. Archer Blood and a report by Late Senator Edward Kennedy.
 
Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15  is an insult to the victims of Bangladesh genocide.
 
I am a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh liberation war and a witness to the crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators.  I have written several books on Bangladesh liberation war. My latest book Bullets of '71- A Freedom Fighter's Story describes Bangladesh genocide committed by the Bangladesh war criminals. (See my website www.nurannabi.com to know more about Bangladesh genocide )
 
After 40 years, trial of the Bangladesh war criminals just has started. Since then Bangladesh war criminals and their supporters have started orchestrated campaign to misinform and mislead the world opinion regarding the extent of Bangladesh genocide. Sarmila Bose is a part of that grand scheme.
 
Sarmila Bose and others are promoting their hidden agenda in a very subtle way to protect the Bangladesh war criminals. Its irony that she is using organization like Woodrow Wilson Center in the USA capital to misguide the opinion maker.
 
You must stop this event which is a heinous design of the Bangladesh war criminals. You should allow to let people know the truth about Bangladesh war crimes which Ms Bose is trying to hide and protect the war criminals.
 
I am walling to present evidence for the crimes against humanity in Bangladesh in 1971 perpetrated by Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators based on my new book.
 
I would appreciate if you invite me to the event to counter Ms. Bose's misleading conclusion and allow me tell the truth to the audience. 
  
Looking forward to hearing from you.
 
Regards,
Nuran Nabi, PhD
Councilman of Plainsboro Township, NJ
and a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh Liberation war
Tel: 609 529 5065
 




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Dear Saif bhai:

 

Assalamualikum. I choose to address you as Saif bhai cause in your previous two responses you mentioned me as Helal Bhai. It feels much closer when someone addresses you as bhai. Though you are much elder to me, I'm flattered that you addressed me that way.

 

Hope you are not going to harm me after knowing my whereaboutsJ. I have been way from home since the beginning of 1996 but fortunate enough to go home on regular basis sometime twice a year. I moved to Canada from US in 2004 and currently residing in greater Toronto area (GTA). I earned an MBA degree from Chittagong University and a second one from Texas A&M - Commerce. My late father wondered how I managed to complete two MBA degrees without much study. I convinced him that it was His and my Mother's non-stop prayers helped me get through.

 

Though I left my country for better future (physically) but I'm always there through my soul. Bangladesh gave me so much that, at times, I feel ashamed for not being able to give anything back to Her. Currently I'm trying to establish IT outsourcing business with Bangladesh so that our next generation might have a better prospect ahead of them. If i fail, at least, i will be able tell myself that i tried.

 

I hope I shared enough to give you an idea about me. You may reach me at 647 828-3796 if you feel like yelling for arguing with a respected retired ambassador.

 

Thanks.

Helal

--- On Thu, 3/10/11, md. saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com> wrote:


From: md. saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com>
Subject: The need for balanced and pragmatic views on all issues
To: "Helal Ahmed" <huahmed@yahoo.com>
Cc: alapon@yahoogroups.com, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>, "Abba" <hussain7192@rogers.com>, khabor@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Nuran Nabi" <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 12:08 PM

Dear Bhai Helal

I have read your email response.

Thanks for your balanced response to my comment and observation.

But I think that you continue to remain unfair in your remarks on Dr. Nabi and freedom fighters.

Let us not be in real haste to reply back again to you. I hope to share some further thoughts on the overall issue next week.

I am a bit intrigued as to how long you are abroad and where are you based. So enlighten us further on this point later at your discretion and time convenient to you.


Saif Khan





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[chottala.com] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th



Mr. Helal

You have said:
 
"Pls accept my sincere apology if I hurt you with this mail."
 
Wah !!!!! What a pretention .....
 
You have already proved through your innuendeos who you are ..... and
where are you comming from ..... You tried your best to divert from the main
thread (protest against Sarmila Bose ) by mixing up issues...
 
It is not an isolated phenomenon that you are now getting congratulatory salutes
from well know quarters who masquerade themselves as patriots...........
[Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel .....]
 
The mass killing (genocide) and mass rape in 1971 was a official policy of the
Pakistani occupation regime ... and those were one the worst genocide and
mass-rape in human history ...... Do you want to white-wash the 1971-Pakistani
attrocities by disputing the numbers .... Is that your tactics to absolve  the
worst criminals, (Pakistani occupation regime and the accessories/collaborators 
viz. Al-Bodor/-Razaker-Al-shams gangs) of their guilts?
 
Undoubtly, Sarmila Bose is a distortionist and falsifier of history ...
She must be exposed and protested ....
 
In My Lai Massacre in Vietnam (1968) mass murder of unarmed 347–504   civilians.was conducted by an unit of the US Army.
Pakistan Army has conducted thousands of My Lai Ty Massacre in
Bangladesh during their occupation in 1971 as their official policy.. Most villages
and towns of Bangladesh have witnessed those mass-murders & mass-rapes.....!!!!!
 
 
Syed Aslam

 
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:56 PM, anis.ahmed@netzero.com <anis.ahmed@netzero.net> wrote:
 

Mr. Helal Ahmed:
 
You're a real Bangladeshi. I salute you for your true feelings and courageous voice for Bangladesh and for the people of Bangladesh. My hats off for your logical expressions without any fear of dangers from near or short distant enemies.
 
Thanks,
 
Anis Ahmed, Maryland 

 
Assalamualikum Dear Dr. Nuran Nabi.
 
My name is Helal Ahmed and i born in 1970. I'm very proud of you as a living Freedom fighter as I'm proud of my Father-in-law and late father. You and my Father-in-law faced the bullet in the forefront and my late father fought the war in a different way. I wish I was born at that time to do the same. I understand your sentiment towards 1971.
 
What i don't understand is that in this forum, i do not see you or any other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or thousands of innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian border force.
 
I guess you and some of the Freedom fighters fought the war against Pakistan not for Bangladesh. If you fought for Bangladesh, than i should have seen your anger against the Felani killer just the way you showed your anger towards Pakistani murderers.
 
Also, in our 1971 war, 3 million people didn't die. The mentioned number was a slip of tongue by Bongobondhu. And people are Bangladesh can't even talk about it as they might be labeled as Razakar. For the sake of new generation, it is your duty to tell the truth.
 
Pls accept my sincere apology if I hurt you with this mail. As a generation after 1970, I'm just tired of seeing Bangladeshis keep talking about old enemy and being mum of new enemy.
 
FYI, as you are, I also want the trial of 1971 war criminals. But I don't think our neighboring country want this issue to be resolved as this the only way to keep Bangladesh divided and let us in fighting. See, people like you and me, living in different countries, from completely different generations, still wasting our time to argue over something which should have been solved 40 years ago.
 
I'm very much in doubt that current AL government will complete the trial. After the five long years, they will say they have to come back to power again to finish the trial.
 
Thanks in advance for your understanding.
 
Helal


--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Subject: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: alapon@yahoogroups.com, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:42 PM

 
I would appreciate if you post this in your group

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Subject: Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: mike.vandusen@wilsoncenter.org


Mr. Mike Van Dusen
Executive Vice President of the Woodrow Wilson Center for Internatio​nal Scholars
 
Dear Mr. Van Dusen,
 
It is with great dismay I tell you that you have organized an event with a controversial writer Sarmila Bose in the month of March which is the 40th  anniversary of the beginning of Bangladesh genocide 1971 where 3 million people were killed, 200 thousand women were raped, 10 million people were forced to become refugees to lead a sub-human life during 9 months of the war..
 
These crimes against humanity are well documented including a book by USA Consul General in Dhaka Late Mr. Archer Blood and a report by Late Senator Edward Kennedy.
 
Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15  is an insult to the victims of Bangladesh genocide.
 
I am a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh liberation war and a witness to the crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators.  I have written several books on Bangladesh liberation war. My latest book Bullets of '71- A Freedom Fighter's Story describes Bangladesh genocide committed by the Bangladesh war criminals. (See my website www.nurannabi.com to know more about Bangladesh genocide )
 
After 40 years, trial of the Bangladesh war criminals just has started. Since then Bangladesh war criminals and their supporters have started orchestrated campaign to misinform and mislead the world opinion regarding the extent of Bangladesh genocide. Sarmila Bose is a part of that grand scheme.
 
Sarmila Bose and others are promoting their hidden agenda in a very subtle way to protect the Bangladesh war criminals. Its irony that she is using organization like Woodrow Wilson Center in the USA capital to misguide the opinion maker.
 
You must stop this event which is a heinous design of the Bangladesh war criminals. You should allow to let people know the truth about Bangladesh war crimes which Ms Bose is trying to hide and protect the war criminals.
 
I am walling to present evidence for the crimes against humanity in Bangladesh in 1971 perpetrated by Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators based on my new book.
 
I would appreciate if you invite me to the event to counter Ms. Bose's misleading conclusion and allow me tell the truth to the audience. 
  
Looking forward to hearing from you.
 
Regards,
Nuran Nabi, PhD
Councilman of Plainsboro Township, NJ
and a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh Liberation war
Tel: 609 529 5065
 




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[chottala.com] Re: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th



Dear Dr. Saiful khan:

 

Assalamualikum. Thank you for your response regarding my posting. You didn't hurt my feelings as what you have said is nothing wrong from your point of view. And that's what civic people do to communicate with one another. I'm humbled to even communicate to a person like you or Dr. Nuran Nabi and many others in these forums who are way educated and accomplished than me. I take your criticism as a learning tool for being shaped as a mature human being.

 

As I mentioned earlier, I have outmost respect for the Freedom fighter on 1971. But I'm not sure, I can say the same thing about the honorable living Freedom fighters in 2011. I also expressed the similar feelings to my Father-in-law after seeing Felani's hanging dead body on the wired fence.

 

You and I are extremely fortunate that we do not leave along the Bangladesh-India border fence. Imagine you daughter or sister killed like that hanged for hours. God forbid, that's shouldn't happen to any of us or even to our ill seekers.

 

I do not think I made the false accusation regarding the living Freedom fighters being mum with all the injustice Bangladesh is receiving over the last 39 years. Some of their inaction is louder than my word. However, you have all the rights to disagree with my assertion and I ask all the living Freedom fighter's forgiveness for being ungrateful.

 

Your generation saw Pakistan as oppressor and you spoke loud about it as that was the right thing to do. Our generation is seeing India as the oppressor, and we are speaking about it. I do not have any hurt feeling towards the Indian people but the Indian authority who is humiliating us periodically. Well, I do not solely blame Indian authority either, but us, as we are the one who is letting them to dictate our lives by being divided and weak.

 

Dear Ms Farah and Mr.Anis:

 

Assalamualikum. Thanks for your response as well. I hope we realize that by being hateful to each others, we are completely destroying the future of Bangladesh. The sooner we realize it the better it is for us. We are a country of numerous prospects and our neighbors like India and China leading the way to be prosperous nations. All we have to do is just learn from them, how to be united when it come to national issues.

 

The other thing is haunting me is very sensitive to talk about.

Ok, let's talk about it, as most of us in these forums are well-informed and may have the courage to discuss something enormously sensitive.

 

War Criminals:

We all want justice for the Pakistani Collaborators who slaughters innocent Bangalee's ruthlessly. Then how about the justice for innocent Bihari's who were also slaughtered by Bangalee's! Why, no one is seeking justice for all the murders!

 

If I'm a JUST person, then, I should be JUST to all. Not, only to my family, friends, and well wishers. Right!!

Yes, there is no doubt in my mind that Bangalee's were slaughtered thousands time more than Bihari's by brutal Pakistani army and their Bangalee collaborators.

 

FYI, I'm not a Bihari origin but a Bangladeshi from both parental sides.

 

Thanks everyone for reading this long mail. And pls accept my sincerely apology if this mail hurt you in any way. As I said above, you have all the rights to disagree with whatever I said and allow me to understand if I got it all wrong.

 

Helal

--- On Thu, 3/10/11, md. saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com> wrote:


From: md. saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: alapon@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Helal Ahmed" <huahmed@yahoo.com>, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>, "Abba" <hussain7192@rogers.com>, khabor@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Nuran Nabi" <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 2:36 AM

Dear Bhai Helal CC Dean Dr. Nurun Nabi

I have read your email letter to Dr. Nurun Nabi.
We are proud of your father in law and father as we are proud of Dean Dr. Nurun Nabi.

Your assertion " What i don't understand is that in this forum, i do not see you or any other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or thousands of innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian border force" makes it clear that you have no real respect for the most invaluable contribution of our freedom fighters  of Bangladesh including your father or father in law.

How can you raise such an allegation like this ?

In one life time fighting or taking part in one freedom struggle or war of liberation is the most commemdable part of valour or patriotism.

Have you or I or most of our countrymen fought or got the chance to take part in a glorious war of emancipation?

Let us all be measured and balanced in our evaluation.

Please do not feel hurt by this comment of mine.


Dr. Md. Saiful Amin Khan

Retired Ambassador and Permanent Secretary of Bangladesh

London



On 9 March 2011 21:23, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Assalamualikum Dear Dr. Nuran Nabi.
 
My name is Helal Ahmed and i born in 1970. I'm very proud of you as a living Freedom fighter as I'm proud of my Father-in-law and late father. You and my Father-in-law faced the bullet in the forefront and my late father fought the war in a different way. I wish I was born at that time to do the same. I understand your sentiment towards 1971.
 
What i don't understand is that in this forum, i do not see you or any other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or thousands of innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian border force.
 
I guess you and some of the Freedom fighters fought the war against Pakistan not for Bangladesh. If you fought for Bangladesh, than i should have seen your anger against the Felani killer just the way you showed your anger towards Pakistani murderers.
 
Also, in our 1971 war, 3 million people didn't die. The mentioned number was a slip of tongue by Bongobondhu. And people are Bangladesh can't even talk about it as they might be labeled as Razakar. For the sake of new generation, it is your duty to tell the truth.
 
Pls accept my sincere apology if I hurt you with this mail. As a generation after 1970, I'm just tired of seeing Bangladeshis keep talking about old enemy and being mum of new enemy.
 
FYI, as you are, I also want the trial of 1971 war criminals. But I don't think our neighboring country want this issue to be resolved as this the only way to keep Bangladesh divided and let us in fighting. See, people like you and me, living in different countries, from completely different generations, still wasting our time to argue over something which should have been solved 40 years ago.
 
I'm very much in doubt that current AL government will complete the trial. After the five long years, they will say they have to come back to power again to finish the trial.
 
Thanks in advance for your understanding.
 
Helal


--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Subject: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: alapon@yahoogroups.com, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:42 PM

 
I would appreciate if you post this in your group

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Subject: Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: mike.vandusen@wilsoncenter.org


Mr. Mike Van Dusen
Executive Vice President of the Woodrow Wilson Center for Internatio​nal Scholars
 
Dear Mr. Van Dusen,
 
It is with great dismay I tell you that you have organized an event with a controversial writer Sarmila Bose in the month of March which is the 40th  anniversary of the beginning of Bangladesh genocide 1971 where 3 million people were killed, 200 thousand women were raped, 10 million people were forced to become refugees to lead a sub-human life during 9 months of the war..
 
These crimes against humanity are well documented including a book by USA Consul General in Dhaka Late Mr. Archer Blood and a report by Late Senator Edward Kennedy.
 
Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15  is an insult to the victims of Bangladesh genocide.
 
I am a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh liberation war and a witness to the crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators.  I have written several books on Bangladesh liberation war. My latest book Bullets of '71- A Freedom Fighter's Story describes Bangladesh genocide committed by the Bangladesh war criminals. (See my website www.nurannabi.com to know more about Bangladesh genocide )
 
After 40 years, trial of the Bangladesh war criminals just has started. Since then Bangladesh war criminals and their supporters have started orchestrated campaign to misinform and mislead the world opinion regarding the extent of Bangladesh genocide. Sarmila Bose is a part of that grand scheme.
 
Sarmila Bose and others are promoting their hidden agenda in a very subtle way to protect the Bangladesh war criminals. Its irony that she is using organization like Woodrow Wilson Center in the USA capital to misguide the opinion maker.
 
You must stop this event which is a heinous design of the Bangladesh war criminals. You should allow to let people know the truth about Bangladesh war crimes which Ms Bose is trying to hide and protect the war criminals.
 
I am walling to present evidence for the crimes against humanity in Bangladesh in 1971 perpetrated by Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators based on my new book.
 
I would appreciate if you invite me to the event to counter Ms. Bose's misleading conclusion and allow me tell the truth to the audience. 
  
Looking forward to hearing from you.
 
Regards,
Nuran Nabi, PhD
Councilman of Plainsboro Township, NJ
and a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh Liberation war
Tel: 609 529 5065







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[chottala.com] Please read the article and sign for Dr. Yunus



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vivian-norris-de-montaigu/why-muhammad-yunus-and-th_b_833389.html

Mahboob Hossain



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Re: [chottala.com] See this article about Yunus

After liberation during AL administration in Bangladesh all industries which were established by Adamjee Ispahani Bowani Kohinoor and East Pakistan Industrial develop Corporation during 24 years of Pakistan administration at East Pakistan were looted & destroyed by AL cadres.
Then Bangladesh became a bottom less Busket.
In 1996 AL again got Bangladesh Administration and destroyed share market and looted shares and made people poorest.
Again in 2008 AL has taken power of Bangladesh administration and already AL administration has destroyed share market looted people,s money have made them poorest and Gramin Bank is going to be looted by them for making people poorest and making Bangladesh a country of koli mujoor labors and beggars.
Hassina wants to be mother of Koli mujoor and beggars.


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