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Friday, August 23, 2013

[chottala.com] সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।



I have heard all these arguments millions of times from Jamat/BNP. Nothing new in it. All these propaganda are to save the Razakars - the Pakistani lovers. Please do not think that we are less intelligent than you are. I love Bangladesh more than any one of you. A group of people are out in the international market in support of the Razakars to turn our independent Bangladesh into a part of Pakistan again. 

During the liberation war once I was caught by the Razakars and was beaten so badly that the Razakars though I was dead. I was rescued in a counter attack by my comrades and I was survived by the grace of almighty Allah. I shed my blood for our liberation. I am still carrying the signs of injuries in my body since 1971.  I still remember that my feet were hanged with the ceiling fan at the Razakar Camp of Chanchkoir Hat of Gurudaspur Thana of Natore District (the then sub-division) and my head was hanging down about 3 feet above the floor. When the Razakars were beating me and I was crying and asking for water, these worse than animal subhuman Razakars pied into my mouth and over my face.

You people do not know the pains of freedom fighting. You do not know how cruel and inhuman these Razakars, Al-Badrs and Pakistani occupation forces were. I fought against these Razakars and will continue to fight out these Razakars till I die. I therefore, continue to fight out any act/writing of any person which goes to support these Razakars.

You better learn about the cruelty and brutality of the Razakars,  Al-Badrs and Pakistani occupation forces before you write anything which might help the Razakars to survive and give them opportunity to turn Bangladesh into a part of Pakistan again.

I know many donot like my postings, because they either did not see the liberation war or they are the Razakar supporters and Pakistani lovers. So, my fight will continue against them.













From: Muazzam Kazi <kazi4986@yahoo.com>
To: Dr. M. Mohsin Ali <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>; Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।


Dear Mohsin Ali,
 
Please read my power point presentation, you will have all of the answer.
 
Best regards
 
Muazzam H. Kazi
 
From: Dr. M. Mohsin Ali <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>
To: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
PLEASE READ, "I AM NOT BOTHERED WITH ANY CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISMS" OF AWAMI LEAGUE OR ANY ONE OR ANY PARTY.

From: Dr. M. Mohsin Ali <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>
To: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
Cc: mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; bangladeshi googlesgroups <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>; "khabor@yahoogroups.com" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com>; Sayeda Haq <sayedahaq@yahoo.com>; chottala yahoogroups <chottala@yahoogroups.com>; Rukshana Niloofar <grambangla2000@gmail.com>; saokot hossain <saokot_nccbl@yahoo.com>; Mohammad Gani <mgani69@gmail.com>; bangladesh-progressives googlegroups <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>; Bazlul Wahab <bazlul@yahoo.com>; Farzana Ahmed <farzana.ahmed48@yahoo.com>; farida <farida_majid@hotmail.com>; Zainul Abedin <zainul321@yahoo.com>; Kazi Muazzem <kazi4986@yahoo.com>; diagnose <diagnose@yahoogroups.com>; alapon yahoo <alapon@yahoogroups.com>; Salim Afsar <salimafsar@gmail.com>; farzana Mitu <farzanamitu2003@yahoo.com>; Akram Bhuyian <abhuiya@comcast.net>; Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathusaini@hotmail.com>; Nakib Uddin <md.uddin@comcast.net>; Rezaul Karim <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>; Mohammad Aleem <aleem53@yahoo.com>; notun Bangladesh <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; bhin golardho <golardho@yahoo.com>; "msshamim@gmail.com" <msshamim@gmail.com>; rakhal Bondhu <rakhalbandho@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
Mr. Hussaini, Your failure to response to the specific points of my response proved that: 1. I am a real freedom fighter. 2. You were not a freedom fighter, rather you were either Razakar or Razakar/Pakistani supporter. 3. You lied 5. Your intelligence is limited only within Black Coat book. 6. You think that those who did not read the Black Coat book are not intelligent and do not know the history, you lied here again. Millions of people who did not read the black coat book are not less intelligent than you are. 7. Your Napit story is so old that it does not make you smarter than others. Rather, it makes you like a frog in the deep dug-well. 8. Bangobandhu always respected and regarded Moulana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhasani and Hossain Shahid Sohrowardi as his political teachers and leaders. 9. By citing your last name "Sohrowardy" you wanted to prove that you are carrying the blood of Hussain Shahid Sohrowardy. I do not know if it is true, but I doubt. 10. You always criticize Awami League, that's fine and I am not bothered with that. But as long as you support the Razakars, Jamat/Shibirs, and Pakistani Dalals and fight for them and fight to save them,you will be a Pakistani Dalal and Razakar/Terrorist promoters. 11. Beat your at least one drum and show what you have done something for Bangladesh and for the people of Bangladesh except attempting to kill Awami League/Bangobandhu/Sheikh Hasina and Dalali of Razakar/Terrorist/Pakistani.

From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: "drmohsinali@yahoo.com" <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
Mr. Mohsin:My last name is Suhrawardy, a it is there when i say or write something, wheather you like it or not. One of our Suhrawardy's had co-founded your party "Awami Muslim League" with Bangladesher 'Poth Prodorshok' Moulana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhashani.  I see a black coat on you. I also wear it occasionally, not because someone wore it but because my forefathers used to wear it. As you are black coat fan, I am suggesting you to start reading the book called "The Black Coat", then we will talk. When I said "empty vessel sound much", I meant about geo-political knowledge about the sub-continenet and history of Bangladeshi people. Ask yourself a question, "Why we are at this juncture, and how did it happened?". I am sure something will pop up in your nind and you will start pondering yourself and will ask yourself a question, "What the hell I am doing at this juncture of our Bangladesh Nationhood?" Let me tell a story. A 'Napit' started to do oeration on people in a village. He was cheap. Doctors were upset on their future business. One day, a doctor, out of goodwill, gave the 'Napit' a book on "Human Body nad it's function', so that Napit becomes moe cautious and knowledgable on operation. After reading the book, Napit lost his command in taking operation cases. Do you know why?After reading the book he found that he is doing all stupid things that he should not had done during operation.  He was taking too much risk with human being. He lost his confidence and the doctors got their business back. You may not like me, but get a good political teacher or start researching yourself. There is nothing called 'Late in Life'.The balck Coat could be a good start. Shahadat Suhrawardy.  
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:17:30 -0700 From: drmohsinali@yahoo.com Subject: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের। To: shahadathussaini@hotmail.com CC: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
YES, MR. HUSSAINI, YOU ARE RIGHT. I AM BEATING MY OWN DRUMS, BECAUSE, I HAVE DRUMS TO BEAT. MY DRUMS ARE NOT EMPTY. I AM PROUD THAT I FOUGHT FOR THE LIBERATION OF BANGLADESH. I WAS NOT ONLY A FREEDOM FIGHTER, I WAS A COMMANDER OF GURUDASPUR THANA FREEDOM FIGHTERS OF NATORE DISTRICT. YOU CAN CHECK WITH ANY PERSON IN GURUDASPUR THANA, YOU CAN CHECK WITH THE GOVERNMENT GAZETTES AND MUKTO-BARTA FOR THE LISTS OF THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS PREPARED DURING THE AWAMI LEAGUE, BNP AND ERSHAD GOVERNMENTS. IF YOU HAVE COURAGE, PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR DETAILS (AT LEAST THANA AND DISTRICT), I CAN CHECK THE LIST AND SPEAK TO YOUR THAN PEOPLE AND FIND ABOUT YOURSELF.


From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: "drmohsinali@yahoo.com" <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>
Cc: mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
'Khali kolshi baje beshi', the provrb was created to name people like you ( I am definite). "Nijer dhol' nije ar koto bajaben? How do you know that I am not fredom fighter. I think you belonged to 16th div. of Fighting force, which came to being after 16th Dec. Please read the book called, "The Balck Coat". You will come to some sense that you know not much as you think.    Shahadat Suhrawardy  
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:06:37 -0700 From: drmohsinali@yahoo.com Subject: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের। To: shahadathussaini@hotmail.com CC: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME THESE HISTORY. I KNOW THE HISTORY. TELLING A RAZAKAR OR A RAZAKAR SUPPORTER OR A PAKISTANI SUPPORTER IS NOT SLANDERING. PLEASE MIND YOUR WORDS. PLEASE CHECK YOUR POSTINGS OF THE LAST FEW YEARS AND DECIDE YOURSELF WHO HAS BEEN SLANDERING. I FOUGHT FOR THE LIBERATION WAR, NOT YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN ALWAYS SUPPORTING THE CAUSES OF THE RAZAKARS, TERRORISTS AND THE PAKISTANI LOVERS. ALL YOUR POSTINGS ARE THE PROOFS FOR THAT. THANK YOU.


From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: "drmohsinali@yahoo.com" <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>; mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; rakhal Bondhu <rakhalbandho@gmail.com>
Cc: "mostofa@acebd.com" <mostofa@acebd.com>; bangladeshi googlesgroups <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>; "khabor@yahoogroups.com" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com>; chottala yahoogroups <chottala@yahoogroups.com>; bangladesh-progressives googlegroups <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>; Sayeda Haq <sayedahaq@yahoo.com>; saokot hossain <saokot_nccbl@yahoo.com>; Mohammad Gani <mgani69@gmail.com>; Bazlul Wahab <bazlul@yahoo.com>; Farzana Ahmed <farzana.ahmed48@yahoo.com>; farida <farida_majid@hotmail.com>; Zainul Abedin <zainul321@yahoo.com>; Kazi Muazzem <kazi4986@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
Mr. Mohsin: In name you are a Golam of prophet Muhammad (SA) but in words and acitivity you showing your self a 'Golam' of a political party. You can be 'Golam' of anything you wish but you have to keep you civility in words in public forum like this one. Please refrain from slendering personaly to anybody. You may disagree to anything, any idea or any party, that's your prerogative. One thing you should know that we did fought for our independence because of power, parity, and polarization of the then coterie not for anything else that divided the Indian sub-continenet. That is true and will remauin true notter how much you cry.   For your kind information read the paragraph in quotation.  "১৯৭১-এর পরিস্থিতি ছিল খুবই জটিল। আওয়ামী লীগের অন্য নেতারা ভারতে গেলেও শেখ মুজিব চেষ্টা করেননি ভারতে যেতে। যদিও তিনি ভারতে যেতে চাইলে যেতে পারতেন খুবই সহজে। শেখ মুজিব ঠিক কী চেয়েছিলেন, আমরা তা জানি না। ১৯৭৪ সালের ৩০ অক্টোবর মার্কিন পররাষ্ট্র দফতরের সেক্রেটারি হেনরি কিসিঞ্জারকে ঢাকায় কথোপকথনের সময় বলেন, ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধ ছিল গৃহযুদ্ধ (Civil war)। তিনি ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মুক্তিযুদ্ধ বলে উল্লেখ করেননি। তার এই কথোপকথনের দলিল ছিল গোপন। ২০০৭ সালের ১১ অক্টোবর মার্কিন পররাষ্ট্র দফতর থেকে এই গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হয়। মার্কিন যুক্তরাষ্ট্রে প্রতি ৩০ বছর পরপর অনেক গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হয়। কারণ, মনে করা হয়, এসব গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হলে সুবিধা হবে ইতিহাস গ্রন্থ রচনার। শেখ মুজিব কিসিঞ্জারের সাথে কথালাপের সময় ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মুক্তিযুদ্ধ না বলে কেন গৃহযুদ্ধ হিসেবে উল্লেখ করেছেন, তা আমরা বলতে পারি না। যদিও আওয়ামী লীগ ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মহান মুক্তিযুদ্ধ বলেই উল্লেখ করে থাকে। শেখ মুজিব কী চেয়েছিলেন তা অন্য কারণেও আমরা বলতে পারি না। শেখ মুজিব ১৯৭০ সালে নির্বাচন করেছিলেন ইয়াহিয়া খান প্রদত্ত লিগ্যাল ফ্রেমওয়ার্ক অর্ডার মেনে। যাতে বলা হয়েছিল, পাকিস্তান হবে একটি প্রজাতন্ত্র। পাকিস্তানের রাষ্ট্রপ্রধান সব সময় হবেন একজন মুসলমান, আর রাষ্ট্রিক আদর্শ হিসেবে পাকিস্তান মেনে চলবে ইসলামি ভাবাদর্শ। শেখ মুজিব এই শর্তগুলো মেনেই করেছিলেন নির্বাচন। এর মধ্যে কোথাও ছিল না পাকিস্তান ভেঙে দেয়ার কথা। শেখ মুজিব তার ৭ মার্চের বিখ্যাত ভাষণে বলেছিলেন, তিনি হলেন পাকিস্তানের মেজরিটি পার্টির নেতা। তিনি নিজেকে ঘোষণা করেননি পূর্ব পাকিস্তান অথবা বাংলাদেশের নেতা হিসেবে। ভোটের রায় মানলে সাবেক পাকিস্তান ভেঙে যেত এরকম ভাবার কোনো কারণ নেই। শেখ মুজিব সাবেক পাকিস্তানকে ভেঙে দিতে চাননি। তিনি ৮ জানুয়ারি বর্তমান পাকিস্তান থেকে মুক্তি পেয়ে যান লন্ডনে। সেখানে গিয়ে সাংবাদিক এ্যান্থনি মাসকারেনহ্যাসকে বলেন, তিনি পাকিস্তান ভেঙে দিতে চাচ্ছেন না। বর্তমান পাকিস্তানের সাথে রাখতে চাচ্ছেন একটা বিশেষ সম্পর্ক।   Shahadat Suhrawardy.    
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:51:41 -0700 From: drmohsinali@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের। To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; rakhalbandho@gmail.com CC: shahadathussaini@hotmail.com; mostofa@acebd.com; bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com; khabor@yahoogroups.com; alochona@yahoogroups.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com; bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com
HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW WE FOUGHT AND LIBERATED BANGLADESH FROM HIS LOVING PAKISTAN. THEY ARE STILL DREAMING FOR THEIR PEAREY PAKISTAN. IT WAS NOT AWAMI LEAGUE, BUT ZIA WHO KILLED THE MOST FREEDOM FIGHTERS IN THE ARMY INCLUDING COL. TAHER AND THE CIVILIAN AND PUT THOUSANDS OF FREEDOM FIGHTERS IN JAIL INCLUDING MAJOR JALIL, MAJOR ZIA UDDIN AHMED AND THOUSANDS MORE.

PAKISTANI DALAS, STOP THESE NUISANCE FALSE PROPAGANDA.

A FREEDOM FIGHTER.


From: "Mostofa, Gholam" <gholam.mostofa@smec.com>
To: Rakhal Bandho <rakhalbandho@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:55 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
 
This Rakhal is the son of a Paki Razakar. Why should we listen to them? Sent from my iPhone:
Dr Gholam Mostofa
On Aug 20, 2013, at 5:25 AM, "Rakhal Bandho" <rakhalbandho@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr. Jabbar does not know that after the great victory of 1971 election through the votes of freedom lover Bengalis Shiekh Mujib wanted to be the President of Pakistan but the arrogant Bhutto became a big hurdle for Mujib and that people of this country did not tolerate. Later the MuktiJoddha started without the participation of leaders of Awami League who fled to India. After retuning from India these buggers started the concept of Muktijudher Pokkhay and Bipokkhay as they were not able to claim themselves as freedom fighters though later they distributed Freedom fighter certificates. Interestingly they put the real Muktijuddhas in jail by designating them GonoBahini... That is the reason people danced in the streets of Bangladesh after the fall of BAKSAL...
Where this Mr. Jabbar was living at that time?    

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:
 "বাংলাদেশের সাধারণ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধকে গর্বের বিষয় হিসেবে দেখে এবং সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের। ফলে এই সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ তাদের পছন্দ হিসেবে আওয়ামী লীগকে বেছে নিতে পারে। নৌকার একটি ব্রান্ড ইমেজ আছে এবং সেই ইমেজ এবারের নির্বাচনেও কাজে লাগবে। শেখ হাসিনার ছেলে সজীব ওয়াজেদ জয় রাজনৈতিক মঞ্চে অবতীর্ণ হয়ে তেমন কথাই বলে বেড়াচ্ছেন। তবে তারা মনে করে যে, স্বাধীনতার পক্ষের সকল শক্তিকে একসঙ্গে নির্বাচন করতে হবে। সাধারণ মানুষ আরও মনে করে, জামায়াত ও হেফাজত আওয়ামী লীগের বিরোধিতা করে স্বাধীনতার পক্ষের সকল শক্তিকে ঐক্যবদ্ধ করার ক্ষেত্রে সহায়ক হয়েছে।"
 
Mr. Jabbar,
I agree with you that whole bangla desh is proud of "Muktijuddho". But I disagree with you on 'pokkho, bipokkho'.
Where did you find that statistics that Bangladeshi people (minority according to you) are there who are against "Muktijuddho"? Please cite authentic references. If you are right then Awami's would have been in power for 42 years without break. That means you are wrong in your argument. People of Bangladesh have elected others with overwhelming majority and they did not do unwillingly.
 
In my opinion, there are none who is against "Muktijuddho" but are are many who are against the sovreignity of Bangladesh. In Bangladesh, the people who are against the sovereignity are minority and they veruy much exoposed now and most of the people know and identfy them well and their political ambition may be in jeopardy for ever like Muslim League.
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy 



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Professor Mohammed Yunus and his Nobel Peace Prize

Bangladesh Nobel Peace Prize Winner Dr. Mohammed Yunus argued that 'a non-elected government of individuals' or a 'group of select few' would be the best form of government to hold elections.  Elections conducted by a political government is not the right form of government to conduct elections, he added.  As per his opinion, elected governments must leave office and allow 'a select group of  non-elected people' to hold elections and under such arrangement, elections could be termed as 'fair and free'. Otherwise not. This means that the elections in USA, UK, India, Canada, or basically in all developed and democratic countries that are conducted by political governments are neither fair nor free.  If we follow this Nobel Prize Winner's prescription, then President Barack Obama and all Secretaries of States must leave their offices few weeks before the First Tuesday of November to allow a select group of people to conduct the upcoming election in USA.  Such arrangement does not appear to be practical or convincing either in India or USA, the largest democracies in the world.

He stated that he will not allow elections in Bangladesh to be conducted by an 'elected government' --- election must be held by a non-political group like a non-government organization (NGO) or a select group of professionals. Politicians must not be allowed to hold elections. He recommended the elected governments to leave office prior to election. However, he did not say whether they should leave the responsibility of governance to him as he is the only Nobel Laureate in Bangladesh.

In 2006, Dr. Mohammed Yunus welcomed a 'military-backed government' in Bangladesh that ravaged and looted its economy and put most of the senior and veteran politicians and businessmen in jail including the leaders of two major political parties, the Awami League and the BNP.  With a view to wipe out or weaken politics and politicians, that government lodged thousands of politically motivated false cases against political and business leaders. 

Immediately after receiving the Nobel Peace Prize, Dr. Yunus launched a political party named "Citizen's Power'.  Unfortunately, as he could not gather any support for his party, he had to abandon it.  Now he is deadly opposed to political parties and also politicians.

He is campaigning both home and abroad against the current political government of Sheikh Hasina (that came to power with overwhelming popular votes) as it did not allow him to stay in his government job beyond the set retirement age.  As per government rule, government appointed Managing Directors (MDs) of banks must retire by age 65.  He was 71 and he refused to abide by the government rule and instead, he sue the government.  The Court ruled against him and he had to leave his job.  However, he is still occupying couple of floors of the Grameen Bank.

During the last election, Sheikh Hasina promised that if she is voted to powers, she would enforce 'rule of law' and 'good governance'.  In order to establish 'good governance and rule of law', her government asked all MDs to follow the government regulation. Most did except Dr. Yunus.  He asked for one-year grace period for transition. Because of his standing and reputation, the Hasina government allowed him one-year time for transition but he did not come up with any 'transition plan'.  He argued that since he spent more than 250 days a year abroad and therefore, he did not get time to come up with 'transition plan' and he was unwilling to specify any timeframe for transition.  Therefore, the government regulatory agency, the Bangladesh Bank (the Federal Reserve Bank) sent him a notice to quit.

In Bangladesh, the rich and famous and politically connected people have a tendency to illegally occupy or appropriate government jobs or public spaces like rivers, parks, open spaces and the like. Sheikh Hasina, in order to stop such evil practice uprooted many rich and famous from government lands and many of those people set up daily Newspapers and private Television stations (Hatir jeel was occupied by a media group and she forced them out and built a lovely park) and their media ever since are in a crusade against Sheikh Hasina government although its achievements in economic and social areas are simply remarkable. In many areas, it is better than that of its neighbors like India and Pakistan.  For example, it reduced its poverty rate by more than half--- from 59% to 26% now.  It achieved or on tract in achieving most of the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) such as MDG-1 (poverty eradication), MDG-2 (Primary school enrolment), MDG-3 (gender empowerment), MDG-4 (infant mortality), MDG-5 (maternal mortality) and MDG-6 (HIV/AIDs and malaria, sanitation), etc. Because of its remarkable achievements, Bangladesh is now known as a 'Model of Economic Development' and a 'Standard-bearer of South Asia' (Wall Street Journal).  In spite of global financial crises while there has been near stagnant GDP growth rates in many European countries, Bangladesh maintained an average of over 6.3% GDP growth rate during the last 5 years and its export earnings increased from $6 billion to $25 billion and its home remittance also increased from $3.2 billion in 2006 to nearly $14 billion. Most important, it achieved near self-sufficiency in food and drastically reduced power shortage.  It increased its power supply from 3,200 MWs to nearly 8,700 MWs in 4 years time.  It took nearly 37 years from 1972 to 2009 for Bangladesh to generate 3,200 MWs. But during the current government (2009-13), it increased it nearly 3-fold, not a mean achievement.

Since Dr. M. Yunus left the Grameen Bank, the performance of the bank has enhanced and its total borrowers, its total loans and repayment also increased.  More importantly, no new cases of suicide deaths due to micro-credit lending and coercion for repayment has been reported since the government imposed restriction and upper ceiling of maximum 27% interest rate to be charged for such micro-lending.  Since micro-credit lending was allowed free hand, there has been mushroom growth of micro-lenders and interest rate of many of such micro-lenders exceeded 60 per cent. Such arrangement created many bonded-slaves and few committed suicide.  

Micro-credit lending without collateral was first initiated in Connecticut (USA) after the Great Depression of 1930s and it had one principle--- lend money at an affordable rate and such was later widely replicated in Colombia.  Microcredit Bank of Colombia was the first micro-credit bank in the world and it was established in 1962 and it had over 600,000 borrowers. Following it, Dr. Yunus founded the 'Grameen Bank' in Bangladesh after 20 years of Microcredit Bank of Colombia in 1982. He is credited for his innovation of engaging 'peer group' for better repayment, engagement of mostly women borrowers and for spreading the micro-financing concept across nations. 

Under the leadership of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina, First Lady Hillary Clinton and Queen Sofia of Spain, the first Micro-credit Summit was held in Washington D. C. in 1996 and following the Summit, Bangladesh Ambassador to the UN Anwarul Karim Chowdhury created an 'Ambassadors Club of Microcredit' at the UN and Sheikh Hasina government took initiatives to pass a UN resolution for its adoption across countries.  In 1998, when the Grameen Bank was about to be collapsed as its borrowers were unable to make repayment due to devastating flood, Sheikh Hasina government extended a grant of over $300 million to save the Grameen Bank.  Irony is that now Dr. Mohammed Yunus is spreading the message that the Sheikh Hasina government is out there to destroy this Nobel Prize awarded institution as it refused him to continue beyond the retirement age and also not to divert its resources away from helping the poor.  Mohammed Yunus' closet friend has become his worst enemy now. 

When Norwegian media exposed diversion of $100 million away from the Grameen Bank and Bangladesh media became vocal, Sheikh Hasina, the closet friend of Mohammed Yunus had no other alternatives but to look into it and in the process, it unearthed that nearly 54 private institutions including Grameen Phone received both financial guarantee and diverted funds for its business venture. It also unearthed that none of the poor shareholders ever received any dividend nor payment from the Grameen Bank although theoretically they are known to be its shareholders. 

Rich and famous are powerful as they have friends both home and abroad, and no wonder, billionaire media mogul Rupert Murdoch, as per the British and FBI investigations was involved in bribery, hacking and corruption, yet he is free and still his media and money empire is manipulating political offices and elections across nations--- from John Howard to Kevin Rudd in Australia, Margaret Thatcher to Tony Blair in UK, and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in USA.  Rich and famous has a tendency to manipulate leaders and also elections and therefore, Nobel Peace Prize Winner Dr. Mohammed Yunus has a right to follow his 'clan of rich and famous' just like Rupert Murdock.   

Nobel Peace Prize winners are generally controversial personalities and many of them cannot live in their own countries and if they live, they spend their lives mostly in prisons. It is believed that most of such winners are implants in poorer countries as a vehicle to promote the views and interest of the rich and powerful coterie.  Are they really another tool of neo-colonialism?

 

 


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[chottala.com] সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।



THESE SLOGANS ARE THE SLOGANS OF THE MUKTO-JUDDHU (LIBERATION WAR)OF BANGLADESH. WE FOUGHT FOR THE LIBERATION WAR OF BANGLADESH AGAINST THE PAKISTAN AND BENGALI RAZAKARS/AL-BADRS/PAKISTANI DALALS WITH THE BLESSING OF ALMIGHTY ALLAH ABOVE EVERYTHING AND JOY BANGLA SLOGAN ON THE GROUND.




From: M. Aleem <aleem53@yahoo.com>
To: Dr. M. Mohsin Ali <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>; Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
Cc: mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; bangladeshi googlesgroups <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>; "khabor@yahoogroups.com" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com>; Sayeda Haq <sayedahaq@yahoo.com>; chottala yahoogroups <chottala@yahoogroups.com>; Rukshana Niloofar <grambangla2000@gmail.com>; saokot hossain <saokot_nccbl@yahoo.com>; Mohammad Gani <mgani69@gmail.com>; bangladesh-progressives googlegroups <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>; Bazlul Wahab <bazlul@yahoo.com>; Farzana Ahmed <farzana.ahmed48@yahoo.com>; farida <farida_majid@hotmail.com>; Zainul Abedin <zainul321@yahoo.com>; Kazi Muazzem <kazi4986@yahoo.com>; diagnose <diagnose@yahoogroups.com>; alapon yahoo <alapon@yahoogroups.com>; Salim Afsar <salimafsar@gmail.com>; farzana Mitu <farzanamitu2003@yahoo.com>; Akram Bhuyian <abhuiya@comcast.net>; Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathusaini@hotmail.com>; Nakib Uddin <md.uddin@comcast.net>; Rezaul Karim <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>; notun Bangladesh <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; bhin golardho <golardho@yahoo.com>; "msshamim@gmail.com" <msshamim@gmail.com>; rakhal Bondhu <rakhalbandho@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।


Such a big answer to two very short questions...  

To what question did you put the following slogan as answer? Did I ask what political party do you belong to? 
"JOY BANGLA, JOY BANGOBANHU."
 
 
 


From: Dr. M. Mohsin Ali <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>
To: M. Aleem <aleem53@yahoo.com>; Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।

Watch the Film "The Children of the Fire" made by BBC, London, UK in December of 1972 on me (YOU CAN FIND IT IN YOUTUBE) and the read the article "The Peace Hero" written by Alex Broadie published in The New Internationalist" magazine from London, UK in April of 1973 and also read the article published in "The Daily Guardian" of London, UK in August 14, 1972.

You can now understand my age. I live in New York since 1985. If you live in Bangladesh and want to inquire about me then go to Gurudaspur Thana of Natore District.

You want to response to my posting, that's fine. I shall write back to you.

JOY BANGLA, JOY BANGOBANHU.



From: M. Aleem <aleem53@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।


Dear Dr. M. Mohsin Ali,

Couple questions for you:

1. How old are you?
2. Where do you live?

I am thinking of writing in response to your e-mails, but it would be better I know your age and place you are in.

Thanks,
M. Aleem
 
 
 


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Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 12:40 AM
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Mr. Hussaini,

Your failure to response to the specific points of my response proved that:

1. I am a real freedom fighter.

2. You were not a freedom fighter, rather you were either Razakar or Razakar/Pakistani supporter.

3. You lied

5. Your intelligence is limited only within Black Coat book.
6. You think that those who did not read the Black Coat book are not intelligent and do not know the history, you lied here again. Millions of people who did not read the black coat book are not less intelligent than you are.

7. Your Napit story is so old that it does not make you smarter than others. Rather, it makes you like a frog in the deep dug-well.

8. Bangobandhu always respected and regarded Moulana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhasani and Hossain Shahid Sohrowardi as his political teachers and leaders.

9. By citing your last name "Sohrowardy" you wanted to prove that you are carrying the blood of Hussain Shahid Sohrowardy. I do not know if it is true, but I doubt.

10. You always criticize Awami League, that's fine and I am not bothered with that. But as long as you support the Razakars, Jamat/Shibirs, and Pakistani Dalals and fight for them and fight to save them,you will be a Pakistani Dalal and Razakar/Terrorist promoters.

11. Beat your at least one drum and show what you have done something for Bangladesh and for the people of Bangladesh except attempting to kill Awami League/Bangobandhu/Sheikh Hasina and Dalali of Razakar/Terrorist/Pakistani.




From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: "drmohsinali@yahoo.com" <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।

Mr. Mohsin:
My last name is Suhrawardy, a it is there when i say or write something, wheather you like it or not. One of our Suhrawardy's had co-founded your party "Awami Muslim League" with Bangladesher 'Poth Prodorshok' Moulana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhashani.
 
I see a black coat on you. I also wear it occasionally, not because someone wore it but because my forefathers used to wear it. As you are black coat fan, I am suggesting you to start reading the book called "The Black Coat", then we will talk. When I said "empty vessel sound much", I meant about geo-political knowledge about the sub-continenet and history of Bangladeshi people. Ask yourself a question, "Why we are at this juncture, and how did it happened?". I am sure something will pop up in your nind and you will start pondering yourself and will ask yourself a question, "What the hell I am doing at this juncture of our Bangladesh Nationhood?"
 
Let me tell a story. A 'Napit' started to do oeration on people in a village. He was cheap. Doctors were upset on their future business. One day, a doctor, out of goodwill, gave the 'Napit' a book on "Human Body nad it's function', so that Napit becomes moe cautious and knowledgable on operation. After reading the book, Napit lost his command in taking operation cases. Do you know why?
After reading the book he found that he is doing all stupid things that he should not had done during operation.  He was taking too much risk with human being. He lost his confidence and the doctors got their business back.
You may not like me, but get a good political teacher or start researching yourself. There is nothing called 'Late in Life'.
The balck Coat could be a good start.
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy.

 

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:17:30 -0700
From: drmohsinali@yahoo.com
Subject: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
To: shahadathussaini@hotmail.com
CC: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com

YES, MR. HUSSAINI, YOU ARE RIGHT. I AM BEATING MY OWN DRUMS, BECAUSE, I HAVE DRUMS TO BEAT. MY DRUMS ARE NOT EMPTY. I AM PROUD THAT I FOUGHT FOR THE LIBERATION OF BANGLADESH. I WAS NOT ONLY A FREEDOM FIGHTER, I WAS A COMMANDER OF GURUDASPUR THANA FREEDOM FIGHTERS OF NATORE DISTRICT. YOU CAN CHECK WITH ANY PERSON IN GURUDASPUR THANA, YOU CAN CHECK WITH THE GOVERNMENT GAZETTES AND MUKTO-BARTA FOR THE LISTS OF THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS PREPARED DURING THE AWAMI LEAGUE, BNP AND ERSHAD GOVERNMENTS. IF YOU HAVE COURAGE, PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR DETAILS (AT LEAST THANA AND DISTRICT), I CAN CHECK THE LIST AND SPEAK TO YOUR THAN PEOPLE AND FIND ABOUT YOURSELF.




From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: "drmohsinali@yahoo.com" <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>
Cc: mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।

'Khali kolshi baje beshi', the provrb was created to name people like you ( I am definite). "Nijer dhol' nije ar koto bajaben?
How do you know that I am not fredom fighter. I think you belonged to 16th div. of Fighting force, which came to being after 16th Dec.
Please read the book called, "The Balck Coat". You will come to some sense that you know not much as you think. 
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy
 

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:06:37 -0700
From: drmohsinali@yahoo.com
Subject: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
To: shahadathussaini@hotmail.com
CC: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com

PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME THESE HISTORY. I KNOW THE HISTORY. TELLING A RAZAKAR OR A RAZAKAR SUPPORTER OR A PAKISTANI SUPPORTER IS NOT SLANDERING. PLEASE MIND YOUR WORDS. PLEASE CHECK YOUR POSTINGS OF THE LAST FEW YEARS AND DECIDE YOURSELF WHO HAS BEEN SLANDERING. I FOUGHT FOR THE LIBERATION WAR, NOT YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN ALWAYS SUPPORTING THE CAUSES OF THE RAZAKARS, TERRORISTS AND THE PAKISTANI LOVERS. ALL YOUR POSTINGS ARE THE PROOFS FOR THAT.

THANK YOU.



From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: "drmohsinali@yahoo.com" <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>; mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; rakhal Bondhu <rakhalbandho@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।


Mr. Mohsin:
In name you are a Golam of prophet Muhammad (SA) but in words and acitivity you showing your self a 'Golam' of a political party. You can be 'Golam' of anything you wish but you have to keep you civility in words in public forum like this one. Please refrain from slendering personaly to anybody. You may disagree to anything, any idea or any party, that's your prerogative.
One thing you should know that we did fought for our independence because of power, parity, and polarization of the then coterie not for anything else that divided the Indian sub-continenet. That is true and will remauin true notter how much you cry.
 
For your kind information read the paragraph in quotation.
 
"১৯৭১-এর পরিস্থিতি ছিল খুবই জটিল। আওয়ামী লীগের অন্য নেতারা ভারতে গেলেও শেখ মুজিব চেষ্টা করেননি ভারতে যেতে। যদিও তিনি ভারতে যেতে চাইলে যেতে পারতেন খুবই সহজে। শেখ মুজিব ঠিক কী চেয়েছিলেন, আমরা তা জানি না। ১৯৭৪ সালের ৩০ অক্টোবর মার্কিন পররাষ্ট্র দফতরের সেক্রেটারি হেনরি কিসিঞ্জারকে ঢাকায় কথোপকথনের সময় বলেন, ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধ ছিল গৃহযুদ্ধ (Civil war)। তিনি ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মুক্তিযুদ্ধ বলে উল্লেখ করেননি। তার এই কথোপকথনের দলিল ছিল গোপন। ২০০৭ সালের ১১ অক্টোবর মার্কিন পররাষ্ট্র দফতর থেকে এই গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হয়। মার্কিন যুক্তরাষ্ট্রে প্রতি ৩০ বছর পরপর অনেক গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হয়। কারণ, মনে করা হয়, এসব গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হলে সুবিধা হবে ইতিহাস গ্রন্থ রচনার। শেখ মুজিব কিসিঞ্জারের সাথে কথালাপের সময় ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মুক্তিযুদ্ধ না বলে কেন গৃহযুদ্ধ হিসেবে উল্লেখ করেছেন, তা আমরা বলতে পারি না। যদিও আওয়ামী লীগ ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মহান মুক্তিযুদ্ধ বলেই উল্লেখ করে থাকে। শেখ মুজিব কী চেয়েছিলেন তা অন্য কারণেও আমরা বলতে পারি না। শেখ মুজিব ১৯৭০ সালে নির্বাচন করেছিলেন ইয়াহিয়া খান প্রদত্ত লিগ্যাল ফ্রেমওয়ার্ক অর্ডার মেনে। যাতে বলা হয়েছিল, পাকিস্তান হবে একটি প্রজাতন্ত্র। পাকিস্তানের রাষ্ট্রপ্রধান সব সময় হবেন একজন মুসলমান, আর রাষ্ট্রিক আদর্শ হিসেবে পাকিস্তান মেনে চলবে ইসলামি ভাবাদর্শ। শেখ মুজিব এই শর্তগুলো মেনেই করেছিলেন নির্বাচন। এর মধ্যে কোথাও ছিল না পাকিস্তান ভেঙে দেয়ার কথা। শেখ মুজিব তার ৭ মার্চের বিখ্যাত ভাষণে বলেছিলেন, তিনি হলেন পাকিস্তানের মেজরিটি পার্টির নেতা। তিনি নিজেকে ঘোষণা করেননি পূর্ব পাকিস্তান অথবা বাংলাদেশের নেতা হিসেবে। ভোটের রায় মানলে সাবেক পাকিস্তান ভেঙে যেত এরকম ভাবার কোনো কারণ নেই। শেখ মুজিব সাবেক পাকিস্তানকে ভেঙে দিতে চাননি। তিনি ৮ জানুয়ারি বর্তমান পাকিস্তান থেকে মুক্তি পেয়ে যান লন্ডনে। সেখানে গিয়ে সাংবাদিক এ্যান্থনি মাসকারেনহ্যাসকে বলেন, তিনি পাকিস্তান ভেঙে দিতে চাচ্ছেন না। বর্তমান পাকিস্তানের সাথে রাখতে চাচ্ছেন একটা বিশেষ সম্পর্ক।
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy.
 

 

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:51:41 -0700
From: drmohsinali@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; rakhalbandho@gmail.com
CC: shahadathussaini@hotmail.com; mostofa@acebd.com; bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com; khabor@yahoogroups.com; alochona@yahoogroups.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com; bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com

HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW WE FOUGHT AND LIBERATED BANGLADESH FROM HIS LOVING PAKISTAN. THEY ARE STILL DREAMING FOR THEIR PEAREY PAKISTAN. IT WAS NOT AWAMI LEAGUE, BUT ZIA WHO KILLED THE MOST FREEDOM FIGHTERS IN THE ARMY INCLUDING COL. TAHER AND THE CIVILIAN AND PUT THOUSANDS OF FREEDOM FIGHTERS IN JAIL INCLUDING MAJOR JALIL, MAJOR ZIA UDDIN AHMED AND THOUSANDS MORE.

PAKISTANI DALAS, STOP THESE NUISANCE FALSE PROPAGANDA.

A FREEDOM FIGHTER.



From: "Mostofa, Gholam" <gholam.mostofa@smec.com>
To: Rakhal Bandho <rakhalbandho@gmail.com>
Cc: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>; "mostofa@acebd.com" <mostofa@acebd.com>; bangladeshi googlesgroups <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>; "khabor@yahoogroups.com" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com>; chottala yahoogroups <chottala@yahoogroups.com>; mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; bangladesh-progressives googlegroups <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:55 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।

 
This Rakhal is the son of a Paki Razakar. Why should we listen to them?

Sent from my iPhone:
Dr Gholam Mostofa

On Aug 20, 2013, at 5:25 AM, "Rakhal Bandho" <rakhalbandho@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Jabbar does not know that after the great victory of 1971 election through the votes of freedom lover Bengalis Shiekh Mujib wanted to be the President of Pakistan but the arrogant Bhutto became a big hurdle for Mujib and that people of this country did not tolerate. Later the MuktiJoddha started without the participation of leaders of Awami League who fled to India. After retuning from India these buggers started the concept of Muktijudher Pokkhay and Bipokkhay as they were not able to claim themselves as freedom fighters though later they distributed Freedom fighter certificates. Interestingly they put the real Muktijuddhas in jail by designating them GonoBahini... That is the reason people danced in the streets of Bangladesh after the fall of BAKSAL...
Where this Mr. Jabbar was living at that time?    

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:
 "বাংলাদেশের সাধারণ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধকে গর্বের বিষয় হিসেবে দেখে এবং সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের। ফলে এই সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ তাদের পছন্দ হিসেবে আওয়ামী লীগকে বেছে নিতে পারে। নৌকার একটি ব্রান্ড ইমেজ আছে এবং সেই ইমেজ এবারের নির্বাচনেও কাজে লাগবে। শেখ হাসিনার ছেলে সজীব ওয়াজেদ জয় রাজনৈতিক মঞ্চে অবতীর্ণ হয়ে তেমন কথাই বলে বেড়াচ্ছেন। তবে তারা মনে করে যে, স্বাধীনতার পক্ষের সকল শক্তিকে একসঙ্গে নির্বাচন করতে হবে। সাধারণ মানুষ আরও মনে করে, জামায়াত ও হেফাজত আওয়ামী লীগের বিরোধিতা করে স্বাধীনতার পক্ষের সকল শক্তিকে ঐক্যবদ্ধ করার ক্ষেত্রে সহায়ক হয়েছে।"
 
Mr. Jabbar,
I agree with you that whole bangla desh is proud of "Muktijuddho". But I disagree with you on 'pokkho, bipokkho'.
Where did you find that statistics that Bangladeshi people (minority according to you) are there who are against "Muktijuddho"? Please cite authentic references. If you are right then Awami's would have been in power for 42 years without break. That means you are wrong in your argument. People of Bangladesh have elected others with overwhelming majority and they did not do unwillingly.
 
In my opinion, there are none who is against "Muktijuddho" but are are many who are against the sovreignity of Bangladesh. In Bangladesh, the people who are against the sovereignity are minority and they veruy much exoposed now and most of the people know and identfy them well and their political ambition may be in jeopardy for ever like Muslim League.
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy 



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