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[chottala.com] As a rule, what is out of sight disturbs men's minds more seriously!!!!!!

 
 
 
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Re: [chottala.com] All of us failed to match our dreams of perfection

all liberal right & liberal thought must be under the system of rules & all rules must be under the system of rules of law for establishing justice of law. Otherwise it will be liberal just like horest animals.

--- On Sun, 8/6/08, gopalsengupta@aol.com <gopalsengupta@aol.com> wrote:
From: gopalsengupta@aol.com <gopalsengupta@aol.com>
Subject: [chottala.com] All of us failed to match our dreams of perfection
To: notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com, mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, khabor@yahoogroups.com, vinnomot@yahoogroups.com, uttorshuri@yahoogroups.com, Diagnose@yahoogroups.com, hazarikaa@hotmail.com
Date: Sunday, 8 June, 2008, 10:29 AM

Competitive identity politics in Bangladesh has taken yet another ugly turn. In the process, it has chipped away, again, at Bangladesh's liberal, democratic foundations. 

It's a valid question, and as a freelance writer, I have the right to raise it. Indeed, any other citizen could have asked the same. Freedom of expression is every Bangladesh's  fundamental right.Successive administrations of other political dispensations, instead of countering this regressive brand of politics, have adopted it. This is result of appeasement politics adopted by politicians for far too long. Any sane advice with even a hint of name/cause hijacked by a particular group to further itself gives a chance to these hooligans to portray themselves as the only champions for that particular reason to cash in on a particular votebank. You can find ample examples of these in every nook & corner of the country. Only if media in particular & public in general stops highlighting/ responding to acts of them, such hooligans can be stopped in their tracks. Media should stop reporting such acts of hooliganism on a trial basis for a limited period & see if it has any impact on such miscreants. I feel devoid of free publicity, these elements will stop or at least think before indulging in such activities. Whether the media can bite this bullet is a million dollar question. Also it is important to note that no political leadership has the courage to take on these elements for fear of loosing a particular vote bank. And politicised the way it is, it is foolhardy to expect any thing from the law enforcers against such elements.

In their crude attempts to gain political capital by presenting themselves as protectors of nation's legacy, political parties in Bangladesh are impoverishing Bangladesh's liberal tradition at the last minute of destruction. But this is a dangerous move. It could have damaging consequences for not just journalists but all citizens. Freedom of expression, which includes the freedom of the press, is vital to a healthy democracy, which protects individual and collective rights.

Increasingly, in one way or another, we seem to be fighting a losing battle against those who have little regard or respect for the liberal values on which this nation was founded. All of us failed to match our dreams of perfection. So I rate us on the basis of our splendid failure to do the impossible.
 
Gopal Sengupta
Canada

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[chottala.com] All of us failed to match our dreams of perfection

Competitive identity politics in Bangladesh has taken yet another ugly turn. In the process, it has chipped away, again, at Bangladesh's liberal, democratic foundations. 

It's a valid question, and as a freelance writer, I have the right to raise it. Indeed, any other citizen could have asked the same. Freedom of expression is every Bangladesh's  fundamental right.Successive administrations of other political dispensations, instead of countering this regressive brand of politics, have adopted it. This is result of appeasement politics adopted by politicians for far too long. Any sane advice with even a hint of name/cause hijacked by a particular group to further itself gives a chance to these hooligans to portray themselves as the only champions for that particular reason to cash in on a particular votebank. You can find ample examples of these in every nook & corner of the country. Only if media in particular & public in general stops highlighting/responding to acts of them, such hooligans can be stopped in their tracks. Media should stop reporting such acts of hooliganism on a trial basis for a limited period & see if it has any impact on such miscreants. I feel devoid of free publicity, these elements will stop or at least think before indulging in such activities. Whether the media can bite this bullet is a million dollar question. Also it is important to note that no political leadership has the courage to take on these elements for fear of loosing a particular vote bank. And politicised the way it is, it is foolhardy to expect any thing from the law enforcers against such elements.

In their crude attempts to gain political capital by presenting themselves as protectors of nation's legacy, political parties in Bangladesh are impoverishing Bangladesh's liberal tradition at the last minute of destruction. But this is a dangerous move. It could have damaging consequences for not just journalists but all citizens. Freedom of expression, which includes the freedom of the press, is vital to a healthy democracy, which protects individual and collective rights.

Increasingly, in one way or another, we seem to be fighting a losing battle against those who have little regard or respect for the liberal values on which this nation was founded. All of us failed to match our dreams of perfection. So I rate us on the basis of our splendid failure to do the impossible.
 
Gopal Sengupta
Canada
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[FutureOfBangladesh] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Guess, who is showing mastery over filthy language & polluting the entire environment

Dear & esteemed Mr. Millat

 

Thanks for your comments and observation.

 

But have you observed the language, content and flavour of the postings, replies of

  1. Ayubi {he has three names and three (open, we do not know how many he have under the table) different e-mail address}.
  2. Faruque Alamgir
  3. Md. Mostfa Kamal
  4. Aminul Islam Raj etc etc (all are birds of same feather)

I am quoting now few of their hundreds of their such offensive, abusive postings-reply, one by one.

 

 

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Khanki  magir  put,

manger  put,

 

Razakarera  ki  tore  gang   bolotkar  korechilo.

Tor  pacha  ki  gang  koira  falaiche.

 

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Haramir  bachcha

 

Razakarera   ki  tor  maar  laang  ta  o  ki  gang  koira  falaiche.

Koto  jon  razakar  ekloge  tor  maare  lagaito  ta  ki  janosh  .

 

 

Salahuddin Ayubi   (tor  hazar  baper  ek  bap).

 

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But unfortunately, I have not seen any strong and effective protest, complain, writing against them! Actually, you should have do it restlessly!
 
Then I will be join with your noble call and many of us will  be with you.

 

If you can not protest against such bad, offensive, abusive postings in the electronic blogs - then  how will face and condemn these culprits physically, practically

 

I am waiting for your logical reply.

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

Arif



On 6/7/08, Md Anwar Ul Millat <we_love_and_trust@yahoo.com> wrote:

we would like to see our forum is free of all such evil practices.  condemning is just a means to that end.  but, there can not be any dispute that all the members who use bad language deserve equal rebuke.
 
let's increase the warmth of our heart and increase the coolness of our head.  this will help us fightout our respective positions with logic without fading our friendly relationship.
 
colonel millat
rajshahi
 
----- Original Message ----
From: Musfique Prodhan <chena_kew@yahoo.com>
To: notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 10:47:55 AM
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Guess, who is showing mastery over filthy language & polluting the entire environment !

Dear Mr Aslam
 
your response came a little too late. Though I agree with you and Col Milat that, using obcenity is not a proper way to express ones opinion, yet condemning such act should be directed equaly to all. So pointing fingers only at Mr Ayubi or Mr Alamgir does not do the justice. Dont you agree?
 
As far as my association with different forums, I have observed multiple personal attacks ( which include the henious most name calling) without provocation on Mr Ayubi, Mr Alamgir and others. Personalities like Mr Ayubi and Mr Alamgir, who I know as perfect gentlemen and excelled in their own carrier merely reacted against such personal attacks. So the blame soley goes to the people, who had invoked such tradtion of using filth in various forums. 
 
However, personaly I would like to urge everyone, as your brother and a wellwisher, to control emotions while expressing their opinion. After all we are educated and matured people here and should be able to fendoff the ploy to to incite us to debate on the level of the scums. We surely are much better than that. 
 
 
Musfique.
 
PS: There is nothing obcene to call Bangladesh Awami Leage as BAL, because thats how it is abbreviated. Now, if Awami Leage fans are offended, then they might as well change their party name to something else.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com> wrote:
Guess, who is showing mastery over filthy language &  polluting the entire environment !
 
 
 
Dear Moderator [chena_kew]
 
Please take notice:
Here is a very appropriate reaction to Mr. Faruque Alamgir's post.
It seems that some one is using  Mr. Faruque Alamgir and his cohort
Mr, Salahuddin Ayubi  to do his/their dirty works....
 
In the begining I had lot of respect for Mr. Salahuddin Ayubi's
outspoken comments. But now, it is getting tarnished.
I had always agreed to disagree.... but now I am becominng
very skeptic about him and his cohorts ....
 
These guys are only proving who they really are:
Masters over filthy languages at their best!
 
I had always expected that our "patriotic" elderlies,
quinquagenarian and sexagenerian uncles will teach our
younger generation how behave properly and debate
logically even under provocation by staying clam and
showing their patience. Now, I see things are going in
the other direction... ....
 
Syed Aslam
 
 
 
 
Re: [notun_bangladesh] Re: [mukto-mona] Maulana Bhashani wanted soverign independent socialist Bangladesh for freedom freedom of Hindus, Muslims, Christians and tribals.

 
On 6/2/08, Md Anwar Ul Millat <we_love_and_ trust@yahoo. com> wrote:
mr. alamgir,
 
one must appreciate your mastery over filthy language.  but, the fact is, you are polluting the entire environment.
 
by using such bad language you are causing no harm to your target group.  you are causing harm to your reputation and your image. do you realise that?
 
colonel millat
rajshahi

 
----- Original Message ----
From: Faruque Alamgir <faruquealamgir@ yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogro ups.com; Notun Bangladesh <notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com>; vinnomot <vinnomot@yahoogroup s.com>; WideMinds <WideMinds@yahoogrou ps.com>; dhaka Mails <dhakamails@yahoogro ups.com>; Diagnose Mail <Diagnose@yahoogroup s.com>
Sent: Monday, June 2, 2008 3:37:10 PM
Subject: [notun_bangladesh] Re: [mukto-mona] Maulana Bhashani wanted soverign independent socialist Bangladesh for freedom freedom of Hindus, Muslims, Christians and tribals.

Yes, in the dream of the BALIST?????? ???. The BALIST do not and will not hesitate to taint their mother if that goes against the interest of their Father indi !!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Faruque Alamgir

--- On Sun, 6/1/08, Kamal Das@yahoo.com <Kamal Das@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Kamal Das@yahoo.com <Kamal Das@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Maulana Bhashani wanted soverign independent socialist Bangladesh for freedom freedom of Hindus, Muslims, Christians and tribals.
To: mukto-mona@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Sunday, June 1, 2008, 2:06 AM

WRT: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mukto- mona/message/ 48513

Bhashani said so many contradictory things. In reality, however, his party
was the B-team of President Ayub Khan. He even said, "Don't disturb Ayub"

 

 





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[chottala.com] Turkish headscarf ruling seen as blow to basic rights

 
Freedom of choice must be uphold. Turkish headscarf ban ruling is a blow to basic human rights.
It is neither democracy nor secularism. The basic human rights are embedded in democracy.
True secularism is complete seperation of state and religion on either side.
The secular state should not intervene in the freedom choice and freedom to practice religion
in one's own way. The headscarf ban ruling is obnoxious. The "big bother" [Turkish Army]  is
watching the  Turkish people, as always !!!!
 
I would not personally recommand my friends and family members wear head scarf
or hijab. But I suppoert the individual's right to wear head scarf or
hijab to express her freedom of choice and freedom of religion!
 
Syed Aslam
 
 

Islamic demonstrators shout slogans to protest a head scarf ban, a day after Turkey's top court announced its decision on Islamic head scarf, in Istanbul, Turkey. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS/Ibrahim Usta
 
Turkish headscarf ruling seen as blow to basic rights
Reuters
 
 

ANKARA: A decision by Turkey's top court to annul a government reform which lifted a ban on Muslim headscarves at universities is a blow to freedom of religion and other fundamental rights, Human Rights Watch said on Saturday.

Turkey's Constitutional Court overturned late on Thursday a reform which would have allowed students to wear the Muslim headscarf in universities. Analysts said the decision increased the chances that the AK Party would be closed down for alleged Islamist activities in a separate case at the same court.

"This decision means that women who choose to wear a headscarf in Turkey will be forced to choose between their religion and their education," Holly Cartner, Europe and Central Asia director at Human Rights Watch, said in a statement.

"This is a truly disappointing decision and does not bode well for the reform process," Cartner said.

The U.S.-based Human Rights Watch also criticised the ruling AK Party for failing to redraft Turkey's constitution entirely, which it said failed to protect human rights, despite launching a plan to do so after it was re-elected last year.

The secularist establishment, including army generals and judges, suspects the AK Party of harbouring a hidden Islamist agenda. The party denies the accusations.

(Editing by Ibon Villelabeitia)

  Photo 1 of 4

A group of Islamic demonstrators walk in front of Turkey's top court a day after the court announced its decision on Islamic head scarf in Ankara, Turkey, Friday, June 6, 2008. Turkey's top court on Thursday annulled a law that freed Islamic head scarves at universities, inflicting a heavy blow on the Islamic-oriented government and deepening a divide between its supporters and the country's secular institutions.(AP Photo/Burhan Ozbilici)

Veiled women march against Turkish court ruling
Women protest in Istanbul chanting "damn those behind the judges' coup"
 
Turkish gov't scolds high court on head scarf ban
The Associated Press - 18 hours ago
Though most of Turkey's 70 million people are Muslim, many see the head scarf as an emblem of political Islam and consider any attempt to allow it in ...
Turkish head scarf ban reissued Canoe.ca
Turkish PM holds meeting after court upholds head scarf ban Times of India
Judges defy Government to uphold Turkey headscarf ban Times Online
AFP - The Associated Press
all 848 news articles »
 

 

 

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