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Monday, March 28, 2011

Re: [chottala.com] Re: To our respected Teachers!



Thanks to all of you who discussed my column published in the Daily Prothom Alo in their own way. I always respect the opinion of others, but also think it should be as objective and based on facts as far as  possible. I agree that it is the responsibility of the new generation to write history. We created it you write it. But history is different from fiction. That has to be clearly understood. We say 'write something that is readable, do something that is write-able.'  I plan to write an English Version of my column sometimes next month.

Regards and warm wishes to all. 

Have a nice day.

Mannan

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:57 AM, abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com> wrote:
 

No offence to Professor Abdul Mannan who wrote about Sharmila Bose
Abid Bahar
In the below I will talk about Professor Mannan's article published in the Prothon Alo. http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-03-27/news/141872
Overall it is a good article with good writing skill but he used very flawed methodology in understanding Sharmila Bose's works.  Previously, in my
short review about Bose, I wrote
"Indeed, Ms. Bose's book came out with numerous holes. This is especially when she praises the killers and the drunken Yahya and Niazi. But it was a good thing that she was allowed to speak about her findings even with biases; atleast now we know what are her biases. In this if we blindly followed Dr. Nurun Nabi we would all have become some fanatic"secular mullahs."
 
Having said the above, I want to add 'The surge of nationalism usually presents a morally ambivalent, and for this reason often fascinating, picture. "National awakening" and struggles for political independence are often both heroic and inhumanly cruel; the formation of a recognizably national state often responds to deep popular sentiment, but can and does sometimes bring in its wake inhuman consequences, including violent expulsion and "cleansing" of non-nationals, all the way to organized mass murder. The moral debate on nationalism reflects a deep moral tension between solidarity with oppressed national groups on the one hand and the repulsion people feel in the face of crimes perpetrated in the name of nationalism on the other." http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nationalism
 
Professor Mannan himself as a Bangladeshi and like many of us that suffered during the war  but bringing that personal dimention of popular sentiment in research which makes him strong in memory but weak in methodology. In his writing he shows his anger toward Bose by taking up his position in glorifying the AL nationalist conclusions. Bose finds the AL's exaggerated conclusions inconsistent with methodological errors. This makes Mannan angry. With the Bengali nationalist sentiment not the sentiment of a researcher to  Mannan Bose is bound to be wrong. In his such consideration he commits the falacy of begging the question. He denies Bose's"facts" and accepts everything  of the AL made history to be true by the accounts of such people as AL's Nurun Nabis nationalist stand.
This wouldn't draw anybody's attention if Professor Mannan was not the ex vice cencellor, which position carried a very high esteem among Bangladeshi people. But his devotion and blind onesided support to the AL makes him even one commentator assuming that he was not as much qualified for the job but was in that high position due to the AL nepotism. I am certain that this is not true but the professor's extreme bias toward the AL had this unfortunate fallout.
In the Prothom Alo article comments section  as expected Professor Mannan  was appreciated by the Bengali nationalists, but drew harsh criticism from one who commentator who understood what is truly good writing that uses sound methology which is missing in the professor's writing:. The comment in Bengali is as follows:
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শর্মিলা বসুর আলোচনাগুলোর সমালোচনা আরো ভালোভাবে করা উচিৎ। কিছু ব্যপারে মান্নান স্যারের মন্তব্য বেশ আপত্তিকর মনে হলো। ১৯৭১ সালে কারো চাক্ষুস অভিজ্ঞতা না থাকলে কি ইতিহাস বিষয়ে গবেষণা করা যাবে না? তাহলে তো আর তরুন প্রজন্মের কারো ১৯৭১ এর ইতিহাস নিয়ে কাজ করা বৃথা ! তাছাড়া শর্মিলা বসুর সম্ভ্রমহানি নিয়ে কোন ব্লগারের অভদ্র কমেন্টটা ওনার মত মানুষের রেফারেন্স হিসেবে টানাটা ঠিক হলো না। সবশেষে, একজন গবেষককে (যে মানের-ই হোক) বাংলাদেশে অবাঞ্চিত করার ঘোষণা দেবার উস্কানি দেয়াটাও ঠিক মনে হয়নি। একাডেমিক বিতর্ক ইতিহাসের নানা বিষয়ে থাকে, সেটা পালটা গবেষণা করার মাধ্যমেই জবাব দেয়া উচিৎ, কাউকে নিষিদ্ধ করার মাধ্যমে নয়। আশা করি এ নিয়ে বিতর্ক নতুন গবেষণায় বাংলাদেশীদের উদ্বুদ্ধ করবে।
http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-03-27/news/141872  No offence to the respected teacher, Professor Abdul Mannan who wrote about Sharmila Bose stepping out to extremism which is beyond the scope of research methology..
 
 
References
 
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:45 AM, dina khan <dina30_khan@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Respected Teahers are needed to be honest in speaking teaching and writing.
Respected Teachers are needed to be sincere in learnig and knowing the truth for making knowlege learning resouces for teaching the people to build nation.
Dishonest teachers are worse than Rajakars.


--- On Fri, 25/3/11, Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Re: To our respected Teachers!
> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Friday, 25 March, 2011, 8:57 AM

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> possible. May be I am a bit biased towards the politics of
> AL as I cannot be with any politics of BNP for obvious
> reasons.  I also have many critics in AL who thinks I
> should not speak some truths so bluntly they do not like.
> Now for the trial of Col. Taher. His deeds on 7th. November
> was not under trial but his trial was. The trial of Col.
> Taher was a miscarriage of justice and absolutely non
> transparent. I expect to write on this. Even the trial of
> killing of Zia was to some extent more transparent though
> many wrong people were tried (it included quite a few of my
> childhood friends). I never supported his deeds on 7th.
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> Many wishes of our Independence day.
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> didn't see many Bangladeshis with good political
> consciousness. We are overly biased with our political
> ideology. No matter how educated we are, we simply can't
> go beyond our loyalty towards the preferred
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> Manna sir and all the respected teacher's in these forums,
> in our student life, we observed how teachers (mostly who
> thought in the public universities in Bangladesh) are busy
> aligning themselves among Shada, Neel, Holud and Golapi
> panels. We also observed how the best student can't become
> a teacher if he/she doesn't get the blessing from those
> color coded panels. Contrary, how ordinary student become a
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> politics and used us (students) to become the leader of the
> above mentioned colored coded panels and the ultimate price
> is becoming VC. Now days, some of them do politics in the
> public university and teaches in the private ones.
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> genuinely teaching job. That's why we still have
> institution like BUET and IBA to name a few.
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> the respected teacher's in these forums to not to take my
> writing personally. And I hope my writing is not towards
> them as they don't fall into the teacher's category I
> mentione above. As I said, there are many honorable
> teachers' in Bangladesh, who is keeping
> the teaching profession with minimal financial compensation.
> And some of them still help their student to become
> extraordinary human being. We still visited them and touched
> their feet out of outmost respect because they deserve it.
> Whenever I go home, I make sure to visit few of my teachers
> who taught me throughout my life to be a better human being.
> Not necessarily, to be the best student. One of them
> is Samar Kanti Chowdhury sir, who thought be from Grade 1
> to 6. I wish all the teacher's in Bangladesh is just like
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> From: abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Re: [KHABOR]
> Verdict of Col. Taher Case.
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> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com,
> abid.bahar@gmail.com,
> Ovimot@yahoogroups.com,
> faruquealamgir@gmail.com,
> farhadmazhar@hotmail.com,
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> Professor Mannan is a very enlightened person but at
> the same time I read him in his work that he is an overly
> enthuasistic pro AL person as well. He is an honorable
> person. I don't think I am qualified to say anything to
> increase his enlightenment about Bangladesh politics but I
> want to say one thing to help him understand about his
> enthuasism that with the AL appointed judges some of whom
> were vendals and one was a murder accused, the judgement
> about Taher who was the killer of many innocent army offices
> for implimenting his vision of a the then Chinese style
> sepoy army, Hasina's is clearly politically motivated.
> In this judgement there is nothing to celebrate unless you
> are a hardcore Awami Leaguer enthusiast.
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> moral. Example: If the fascist leader Sadam made laws, or
> Gaddafi or Mujib with their one party rule, made laws, in
> Mujib's case when the elected Mujib denying the
> people's mandate made laws to supress the opposition
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> High Court laws, or killing Siraj Sikdar without laws and
> boosting about it,  it was simply a betrayal with the
> people who voted him to power. In the end such leaders as
> was Saddam with his two children were killed by the invasion
> forces, Mujib with his two children were killed by
> Bangladesh army and another dictator Gadafi calling himself
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> editor of a newspaper in jail by Hasina's court was
> legal but abusing power through courts was neither
> democratic nor moral. True, politicians and their
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> of rule of law- is a village headman style politics brought
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> Assalamualaikum.
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> regarding this matter. I also posted a thread few days back.
> I would be honored to hear your feedback in regards of my
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> "Assalamua'laikum.
> Ok, for the sake of argument, I accept your notion that
> Ziaur Rahman was a cold blooded murderer for killing Col
> Taher. Then, do you also accept that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
> was also a cold blooded murderer for killing Siraj Sikdar! I
> hope you must read or remember when Bongbondhu proclaimed,
> where is Siraj Sikdar after he was assassinated."
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> you regarding the hypocrisy in our today's society when it
> comes to discussing Mujib/Zia, India/Pakistan, Tarek/Joy,
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> "sultan chowdhury" <chottalasultan@yahoo.com>,
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> Col. Taher by Gen. Zia was a cold blooded murder and the
> lone person responsible for it was General Zia. The Court
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Abdul Mannan
Professor
School of Business
University of Liberal Arts Bangladesh
House # 56, Road # 4/A
Dhanmondi R/A, Dhaka-1209
Bangladesh.
BDT=GMT +6
Working Days Sunday-Thursday
E-mail: abman1971@gmail.com
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WikiLeaks - Anti-Indian sentiment and Indo-US cooperation on perceived Islamist threat in Bangladesh

Noting the possibility that opposition leader Sheikh Hasina would not run for office, Deo was not hopeful that there would be anything resembling free and fair elections in Bangladesh. The Joint Secretary commented that the BNP was willing to tamper with the electoral system to ensure a victory. DAS Gastright told Deo that along with the EU's USD 25 million for election monitors, the US was committing USD 10 million for elections, to convey to the BDG that the international community is watching closely, and that the US is emphasizing a closely scrutinized process, instead of personalities. Deo welcomed this observation, reiterating that India wants to coordinate closely with the US on Bangladesh.

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Re: [chottala.com] Re: To our respected Teachers!



No offence to Professor Abdul Mannan who wrote about Sharmila Bose
Abid Bahar
In the below I will talk about Professor Mannan's article published in the Prothon Alo. http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-03-27/news/141872
Overall it is a good article with good writing skill but he used very flawed methodology in understanding Sharmila Bose's works.  Previously, in my
short review about Bose, I wrote
"Indeed, Ms. Bose's book came out with numerous holes. This is especially when she praises the killers and the drunken Yahya and Niazi. But it was a good thing that she was allowed to speak about her findings even with biases; atleast now we know what are her biases. In this if we blindly followed Dr. Nurun Nabi we would all have become some fanatic"secular mullahs."
 
Having said the above, I want to add 'The surge of nationalism usually presents a morally ambivalent, and for this reason often fascinating, picture. "National awakening" and struggles for political independence are often both heroic and inhumanly cruel; the formation of a recognizably national state often responds to deep popular sentiment, but can and does sometimes bring in its wake inhuman consequences, including violent expulsion and "cleansing" of non-nationals, all the way to organized mass murder. The moral debate on nationalism reflects a deep moral tension between solidarity with oppressed national groups on the one hand and the repulsion people feel in the face of crimes perpetrated in the name of nationalism on the other." http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nationalism
 
Professor Mannan himself as a Bangladeshi and like many of us that suffered during the war  but bringing that personal dimention of popular sentiment in research which makes him strong in memory but weak in methodology. In his writing he shows his anger toward Bose by taking up his position in glorifying the AL nationalist conclusions. Bose finds the AL's exaggerated conclusions inconsistent with methodological errors. This makes Mannan angry. With the Bengali nationalist sentiment not the sentiment of a researcher to  Mannan Bose is bound to be wrong. In his such consideration he commits the falacy of begging the question. He denies Bose's"facts" and accepts everything  of the AL made history to be true by the accounts of such people as AL's Nurun Nabis nationalist stand.
This wouldn't draw anybody's attention if Professor Mannan was not the ex vice cencellor, which position carried a very high esteem among Bangladeshi people. But his devotion and blind onesided support to the AL makes him even one commentator assuming that he was not as much qualified for the job but was in that high position due to the AL nepotism. I am certain that this is not true but the professor's extreme bias toward the AL had this unfortunate fallout.
In the Prothom Alo article comments section  as expected Professor Mannan  was appreciated by the Bengali nationalists, but drew harsh criticism from one who commentator who understood what is truly good writing that uses sound methology which is missing in the professor's writing:. The comment in Bengali is as follows:
২০১১.০৩.২৭ ০২:৩২
শর্মিলা বসুর আলোচনাগুলোর সমালোচনা আরো ভালোভাবে করা উচিৎ। কিছু ব্যপারে মান্নান স্যারের মন্তব্য বেশ আপত্তিকর মনে হলো। ১৯৭১ সালে কারো চাক্ষুস অভিজ্ঞতা না থাকলে কি ইতিহাস বিষয়ে গবেষণা করা যাবে না? তাহলে তো আর তরুন প্রজন্মের কারো ১৯৭১ এর ইতিহাস নিয়ে কাজ করা বৃথা ! তাছাড়া শর্মিলা বসুর সম্ভ্রমহানি নিয়ে কোন ব্লগারের অভদ্র কমেন্টটা ওনার মত মানুষের রেফারেন্স হিসেবে টানাটা ঠিক হলো না। সবশেষে, একজন গবেষককে (যে মানের-ই হোক) বাংলাদেশে অবাঞ্চিত করার ঘোষণা দেবার উস্কানি দেয়াটাও ঠিক মনে হয়নি। একাডেমিক বিতর্ক ইতিহাসের নানা বিষয়ে থাকে, সেটা পালটা গবেষণা করার মাধ্যমেই জবাব দেয়া উচিৎ, কাউকে নিষিদ্ধ করার মাধ্যমে নয়। আশা করি এ নিয়ে বিতর্ক নতুন গবেষণায় বাংলাদেশীদের উদ্বুদ্ধ করবে।
http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-03-27/news/141872  No offence to the respected teacher, Professor Abdul Mannan who wrote about Sharmila Bose stepping out to extremism which is beyond the scope of research methology..
 
 
References
 
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:45 AM, dina khan <dina30_khan@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Respected Teahers are needed to be honest in speaking teaching and writing.
Respected Teachers are needed to be sincere in learnig and knowing the truth for making knowlege learning resouces for teaching the people to build nation.
Dishonest teachers are worse than Rajakars.


--- On Fri, 25/3/11, Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Re: To our respected Teachers!
> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Friday, 25 March, 2011, 8:57 AM

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> possible. May be I am a bit biased towards the politics of
> AL as I cannot be with any politics of BNP for obvious
> reasons.  I also have many critics in AL who thinks I
> should not speak some truths so bluntly they do not like.
> Now for the trial of Col. Taher. His deeds on 7th. November
> was not under trial but his trial was. The trial of Col.
> Taher was a miscarriage of justice and absolutely non
> transparent. I expect to write on this. Even the trial of
> killing of Zia was to some extent more transparent though
> many wrong people were tried (it included quite a few of my
> childhood friends). I never supported his deeds on 7th.
> November and I will say so.
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> response towards my posting. In my 40 years of life I
> didn't see many Bangladeshis with good political
> consciousness. We are overly biased with our political
> ideology. No matter how educated we are, we simply can't
> go beyond our loyalty towards the preferred
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> Manna sir and all the respected teacher's in these forums,
> in our student life, we observed how teachers (mostly who
> thought in the public universities in Bangladesh) are busy
> aligning themselves among Shada, Neel, Holud and Golapi
> panels. We also observed how the best student can't become
> a teacher if he/she doesn't get the blessing from those
> color coded panels. Contrary, how ordinary student become a
> teacher with the help of same color coded panels.
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> to mention that it is our Sir's who polluted the student
> politics and used us (students) to become the leader of the
> above mentioned colored coded panels and the ultimate price
> is becoming VC. Now days, some of them do politics in the
> public university and teaches in the private ones.
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> also acknowledged, there are still teachers' left who does
> genuinely teaching job. That's why we still have
> institution like BUET and IBA to name a few.
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> writing personally. And I hope my writing is not towards
> them as they don't fall into the teacher's category I
> mentione above. As I said, there are many honorable
> teachers' in Bangladesh, who is keeping
> the teaching profession with minimal financial compensation.
> And some of them still help their student to become
> extraordinary human being. We still visited them and touched
> their feet out of outmost respect because they deserve it.
> Whenever I go home, I make sure to visit few of my teachers
> who taught me throughout my life to be a better human being.
> Not necessarily, to be the best student. One of them
> is Samar Kanti Chowdhury sir, who thought be from Grade 1
> to 6. I wish all the teacher's in Bangladesh is just like
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> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Re: [KHABOR]
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> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com,
> abid.bahar@gmail.com,
> Ovimot@yahoogroups.com,
> faruquealamgir@gmail.com,
> farhadmazhar@hotmail.com,
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> Professor Mannan is a very enlightened person but at
> the same time I read him in his work that he is an overly
> enthuasistic pro AL person as well. He is an honorable
> person. I don't think I am qualified to say anything to
> increase his enlightenment about Bangladesh politics but I
> want to say one thing to help him understand about his
> enthuasism that with the AL appointed judges some of whom
> were vendals and one was a murder accused, the judgement
> about Taher who was the killer of many innocent army offices
> for implimenting his vision of a the then Chinese style
> sepoy army, Hasina's is clearly politically motivated.
> In this judgement there is nothing to celebrate unless you
> are a hardcore Awami Leaguer enthusiast.
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> moral. Example: If the fascist leader Sadam made laws, or
> Gaddafi or Mujib with their one party rule, made laws, in
> Mujib's case when the elected Mujib denying the
> people's mandate made laws to supress the opposition
> installed one party rule, killing the opposition with his
> High Court laws, or killing Siraj Sikdar without laws and
> boosting about it,  it was simply a betrayal with the
> people who voted him to power. In the end such leaders as
> was Saddam with his two children were killed by the invasion
> forces, Mujib with his two children were killed by
> Bangladesh army and another dictator Gadafi calling himself
> as a revolutionary stays in power for decades now killing
> his countryman with the same fascist rule of law and who
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> editor of a newspaper in jail by Hasina's court was
> legal but abusing power through courts was neither
> democratic nor moral. True, politicians and their
> enthuasiasts are fooling and ruling people with the excuse
> of rule of law- is a village headman style politics brought
> to the city to convince some already enlightened people
> fighting against dictators and fascist regimes worldwide.
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> Assalamualaikum.
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> regarding this matter. I also posted a thread few days back.
> I would be honored to hear your feedback in regards of my
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> "Assalamua'laikum.
> Ok, for the sake of argument, I accept your notion that
> Ziaur Rahman was a cold blooded murderer for killing Col
> Taher. Then, do you also accept that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
> was also a cold blooded murderer for killing Siraj Sikdar! I
> hope you must read or remember when Bongbondhu proclaimed,
> where is Siraj Sikdar after he was assassinated."
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> you regarding the hypocrisy in our today's society when it
> comes to discussing Mujib/Zia, India/Pakistan, Tarek/Joy,
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> Diagnose@yahoogroups.com,
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[chottala.com] A heartfelt Thank You for the successful EKTARA Cricket Cup 2011



Dear respected community members in the D.C., MD and VA areas:
 
On behalf of EKTARA, we would like to express our sincere and heartfelt gratitude to all of you who braved the cold weather to show up with family and friends in support of the first ever Bangladeshi cricket tournament in the D.C. metro area, the "EKTARA Cricket Cup 2011". First and foremost, our sincere thanks to all the teams and their respective players without whom this tournament would not have been possible. Thank you guys from the bottom of our hearts! A special thank also go to all the umpires and scorers for their dedicated service.
 
The tournament was held on Saturday, the 26th of March, the day of the 40th anniversary of the independence of Bangladesh. It was truly a memorable, fun filled, and exciting daylong event showcasing some quality cricket. A total of eight teams participated in the 10/10 format cricket tournament. The teams were- ABBA, BABA Tigers, D.C. Bengal Tigers, D.C. Metro Tigers, DU Cheetah, GMU Bengal Tigers, Mustang and Sterling Sobuj Songho. After a fearlessly and closely contested knockout round, four teams- ABBA, D.C. Bengal Tigers, DU Cheetah and GMU Bengal Tigers advanced to the semi finals. The two winners of the semifinals- DU Cheetah and GMU Bengal Tigers then advanced to the final. The final match between these two teams was a closely contested game that had a nail biting finish. At the end of the day, the DU Cheetah emerged as the winner just by 9 runs and hence was declared the Champion for the first ever "EKTARA Cricket Cup 2011". Congratulations Dhaka University Cheetah! Al-Amin of ABBA was declared as the best batsman of the tournament and Syed of GMU Bengal Tigers was declared as the best bowler of the tournament.
 
We would like to take this opportunity to thank H.E. Mr. Akramul Qader, Ambassador of Bangladesh to the U.S., for inaugurating this event. Also thanks to Mr. Jashim Uddin, Deputy Chief of Mission, Embassy of Bangladesh, and Mr. Nazmul Hoque, First Secretary, Embassy of Bangladesh, for their gracious presence and encouragements.
 
Thanks go to Mr. Shibbir Ahmed, Editor, www.Khabor.com  and Mr. Safi Delwar Kajol, Editor, www.news-bangla.com for their coverage of the event. Also, thanks to the following email groups of Alapon, BAAI, BABA, BCCDI, Chottola, and Khabor for spreading the news of our tournament to their respective subscribers. We would also like to specially thank Mr. Ahsan Huq representing the Bengali service of the Voice of America (VOA) for their active support and presence during this event, Mr. Shibly Shiraj for making the wonderful banner, and iDesignBD for creating the beautiful flyer for our event.
 
Thanks also to the following individuals for their support and help- Mr. Arifur Rahman, Mr. Golam Asheaque Khan, Mr. Shah Habibur Rahman and Mr. Shamim Chowdhury. Thank you all from the bottom of our hearts!
 
Last but not least, our sincere thanks to all the EKTARA members who worked hard and put countless hours to make this a successful and enjoyable event. Without their help, this would not have been a reality. Thank you team EKTARA!
 
With the continued support and cooperation of our community, we hope to make EKTARA Cricket Cup an annual event.
 
Warmest regards,
 
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[chottala.com] June 11th Saturday Event..... See you all there.

*** Please mark your 2011 calendar for the following activities/events of BAAI ***

June 11, Saturday, Staging of: 1) Ghuri (Kite)--Ekti Chaaler's Golpo Kotha by BAAI, and 2) Tagore's Bhul Shwargo--The Wrong Paradise by Dhroopad

To raise funds for our community development programs (e.g., health care and job training, youth leadership development forum), the Bangladesh Association of America, Inc. (BAAI) invites you to a unique cultural event.

When: Saturday, June 11, 2011: 7:30 PM

Where: West Springfield High School, 6100 Rolling Road, Springfield, VA 22152

The event comprises of two segments:

Ghuri (The Kite), a story of a notorious soul, featuring a real life story
– A BAAI presentation

Bhul Shwargo (The Wrong Paradise), a drama, based on a short story by Rabindranath Tagore
– A DHROOPAD production

Both segments include especially selected musical ballads with artistic choreography and theatrics. For more information, please keep an eye on: http://www.baaidc.com/ and http://dhroopad.org/

Tickets--General Admission: $7 advance purchase, $10 at the door, children under 7 free; VIP: $50

In addition to coming to this event, you can provide support by becoming paid-members of the association (form attached) and/or making tax deductible donations (Tax ID: 52-1929654).

For more information, please contact:

BASHIR: 571-232-8019 |LINCOLN: 202-455-5426 |TUSHAR: 703-407-2842 |KAORI: 301-640-1893 |SOHAIL: 202-701-0096 |MEH HERUNNESSA: 301-294-2176 |SAJDA: 301-258-0088 |RAJIB: 240-705-6895 |KAZOL: 703-300-0870 |SHAHIN: 571-315-3418 |CHAMAN: 571-265-7004 |BEAUTY: 301-528-6135 |GORKY: 571-228-6055

We look forward to seeing you on June 11th!
Board of Directors
Bangladesh Association of America, Inc.

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Hello Everybody,
Pls put your opinion and comments to get some perception about Dr.Yunus and his rewarded activities for Bangladesh and the world.. Forward the same within and outside your circle as much as possible. Thanks a lot...Farook... Florida



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[chottala.com] Need help for Genetic engineering dept. , CU



Moderator's Note: On behalf of Chottala, I sincerely thank Mr. Jamaluddin Quader Chowdhury for his encouraging words and offer of help. May God bless him. - Miro Jangi
 
Dear Mr. Adnan Manan
 
After many years, i am coming across such a request from a university teacher. Last time such request came from a Chittagonian
legend Prof. Abul Fazal when he was the VC of Chittagong University in the early 70's.
 
This should not be unexpected, but in a world where teachers have become more involved in politics then teaching, and are ready
to use any means to gain personal benifits this thoughtfullness and dedication of yours for your students have really impressed me
and shown me some silver lining in a cloudy sky.
 
I was never a student of Chittagong University, but being a chittagonian and a responsible citizen i consider it is my sacred duty to respond to  your request of providing computers for the students. I will be more then happy to be a part of your endeavour.
 
I would like to mention, because of people like you our nation is still moving. A person of your charecter should be rewarded at national
levels. I also appreciate your concern for your students, which is unlike some teachers and politicians who are busy walking forward
but looking backward. In this connection, i would like to quote Winston Churchill "If you start a fight between the present and the past, you will loose the future".
 
I pray to Almighty Allah so that many others like you come forward with such noble cause.
 
May Allah give you the wisdom and courage to move forward with your endeavour.
 
Please get in touch with me in the below mentioned telephone number.
 
May Allah bless you.
 
Yours sincerly
 
JAMALUDDIN QUADER CHOWDHURY
 
Telephone: 8818445-7
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:24 PM, adnan mannan <adnan_mannan@hotmail.com> wrote:
 

Dear members,
Hello and Salam!
I am happy to inform you about a very modern and enthusiatic department of University of Chittagong. That is Genetic Engineering & biotechnology. The top 20 students among 25000 candidates of admission test get chance in this dept. Our students got Champion award in Inter University Science project presentation competition. Most of our senior students recently got International scholarships from USA, UK, Canada, Japan. Genetic Engineering Dept. became champion in National Inter University Biotechnology Olympiad contest.
Presently faculty members and students are doing research work on Genetic diseases (Thalassemia, Diabetes), mutation of microorganisms, soil bacteria, Antibiotic resistance in Bangladesh and genetically modified variety of plants (Strawberry, canola, tea, rice).
The greatest area of our research work is Bioinformatics. Most of our courses are based on computer, IT  and softwares. But we cannot teach them properly due to lack of computer lab. We don't have any computer lab. And dont have enough fund for that. We would be honoured if we get any sponsorship for IT lab for our study and research work. Recently many corporate institutions are sponsoring this kind of labs as a part of their CSR (Corporate social responsibility).
Is it possible for any of you helping us regarding this lab. We need nearly 25- 30 computers. Our students are being deprived of very latest education due to lack of computers. Many of them are from poor family. So they can't manage that much of money to use internet regularly.
We need your help as a Chittagonian. Promote CU, Promote Chittagong.

Thanks,
Adnan Mannan
Lecturer
Dept. of Genetic Engineering & Biotechnology
University of Chittagong 


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> Introduction: Dr. Mohammad Yunus is again the headline news
> of the World media with great honor. He drew the global
> attention for his visionary movement of supporting the
> poorest and most fragile class of the world through
> micro-credit,  and gave millions of women all over the
> globe self respect and confidence. Again he has become the
> global news headlines of late as the Head of  government
> of his own country spearheaded a vicious campaign to
> dislodge him from the very institution that he created and
> nurtured over the past 28 years, that brought immense fame
> and glory to our motherland unlike anyone else ever did.
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> After calling Prof. Yunus in derogatory names, and when the
> government could not pin any blame for corruption or
> mismanagement of funds on him, the Prime Minister Mrs.
> Sheikh Hasina directed the Bangladesh Bank to relieve Prof.
> Yunus of his position of Managing Director of the Grameen
> Bank on age issue,  required for mandatory retirement of
> Government officials.
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> Gramen Bank is not government owned bank!! The board of
> directors of the Grameen Bank and Dr. Yunus have
> separately challenged the government action in
> the high court, and a judgment is expected this coming
> Sunday. It is a well known fact and we have seen this in
> the past two years how politicized the Judiciary has become,
> and there will be no surprise if the High Court verdict is
> coerced to support the the government decision.
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> In the current situation, numerous countries
> including the US, EU, China, Islamic and other third
> world countries and various global leaders have expressed
> their dismay and deep concern for the mistreatment
> of the sole Bangladeshi noble laureate. It is interesting
> to note that we are yet to see any immediate reaction of
> the Indian Government!!
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> US Secretary of states Hilary Clinton has invited
> Dr.Yunus to meet with her in Washington DC on 8th
> March.  There were discussions about World Bank
> and several other countries  forming a micro-credit
> Bank, and Professor Yunus' name was mentioned as
> possible Head of it’s management or the Board.
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> We have seen from the media report the reaction of the US
> ambassador Jim Moriarty after his meeting with the Finance
> Minister Mr. Muhit that the US Government is very much
> concerned with this development,  and we understand it was
> also conveyed to the government in no uncertain terms all
> the support given to the Awami League enabling them to come
> to power during the last election.  Yet our Foreign
> Minister, Ms. Dipu Moni tells the media the next day that
> she does not expect this incident to have any bearing in
> the US-Bangladesh relationship according to Daily Ittefaq.
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> There were plan to have a significant partnership with
> General Electric and Grameen in the healthcare area,  and
> it was expected that Mrs. Clinton was planning to attend the
> signing event along with Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina. Now
> with this new development, it is unlikely that Mrs. Clinton
> will travel to Dhaka, and we will not be surprised if the
> entire deal unravels. 
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> Opinion with little analysis: Grameen Bank and Dr. Yunus is
> a regular news headline since March 2nd, 2011 in Bangladesh
> and abroad. Reports are based on the facts of the
> government’s action and the legal affairs of the Grameen
> Bank. I am of the same opinion with the analysts who focus
> the entire operation of Sheikh Hasina as absolute political
> and her personal interest based on sheer bias and hatred.
> That politics has both a national and international
> overtone. Hasina loves to enjoy the unchallenged and safe
> kingdom where she will remain in permanent premiership with
> none to question her authority, and her son Sajib to follow
> her after her passing. She is the sole agent of Indian power
> in Wajed Joy Bangladesh where United States of America, EU,
> Muslim states and China-Russia will keep continue the
> relation with her through Delhi government. No one should
> desire the independent relation with Bangladesh. India needs
> Bangladesh under absolute domination as their buffer state
> and in future as it`s part in Indian map as it was before
> 1947.Hasina acts as if she prefers that Indian blueprint.
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> Sheikh Hasina has been ignoring to implement her commitment
> with the United States and playing as a political film
> gangster with the State department of U.S. She has been
> enjoying American support but serving Indian
> government interest far more then their expectations,  as
> confirmed by the New Delhi sources.  All her fake
> faces and games have now been exposed to the US
> Administration. Her blackmailing and dirty gambling are
> also well known to China and the Muslim Countries long time
> ago.
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> Let`s go for short points of Circumstances:
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> (1) Dr. Yunus contributed to tie up the close relation of
> Sheikh Hasina with the US government and their main policy
> makers, and arranged the US blessings for her and played
> vital role to elect her as premier with absolute
> majority in the national election in 2008.
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> (2) For the growing economy in Asia-Pacific region
> Bangladesh deserves strategic priority for its geo-political
> location. In that perspective United States decided to pick
> Hasina to serve their interests in Bangladesh. But she has
> been serving absolutely Indian interests, black mailing the
> US supports and confronting Bangladeshi interests of
> military security and economic interests in inside and
> abroad nakedly. That gradually has turned their relationship
> cold and growing far apart.
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> (3) Hasina is desperate to continue her loyalty with family
> and party followers to Indians as she believes RAW has
> brought her in    power and guides her in political and
> administrative designs. RAW for the first time manipulated
> the national election process of Bangladesh successfully
> and presented her a glorious victory.
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> (4) RAW already set up base network with payroll agents
> 260000 and 6326 are from so called educated group, out of
> total agents 64970.These operatives are active from
> capital city to Upazillas across the country.
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> (5) United States of America might support Dr. Mohammad
> Yunus as their next choice in Bangladeshi government or set
> him up as a staring adviser to future government as Hasina
> doubt lingers. Whereas she is dreaming to see her son S W
> Joy to follow her in    premiership after her retirement
> or passage. Because of this plan, she has already ousted
> the heavyweight leaders from Awami league leadership and
> has brought RAW listed operatives in key position of the
> government, like Dipu Moni. et al.
>
> (6) Dr. Yunus might be the next alternative who proved
> himself as the model of honesty and an all rounder
> leadership and highly    respected throughout the world.
> BNP is painted as loyalist party to the Muslims and Fanatic
> Islamic group and Zia family lost    maximum of
> credibility in leadership for many reasons. The architect
> Army officers of one / eleven in Bangladesh might
> dramatically    sell their support as they did in the
> past though still their position is in the same as it was
> with India after a dramatic monetary deal    of almost
> $11 million US dollars as Delhi sourced.
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> (7) Prime Minister and her son have been planning to grab
> Grameen Bank`s ownership where as Dr. Mohammad Yunus is
> the major obstacle for them with his managing capacity and
> global reputation.
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> (8) Mr. Joy was found masked in Indian Airlines where he
> was disguised with the dress of Shikh before he got down
> from in Dhaka International Airport during Sheikh Hasina`s
> premiership that was witnessed by two European diplomats.
> Two faces of one VIP    passenger who appeared as mafia
> and special protocol that was provided by the Indian
> security Marshalls caused embarrassment    to the
> diplomats. However, such suspicious movement of Youngman Joy
> who has been privileged from the highest authorities of  
>  both India and Bangladesh that was enough to frustrate
> them, undoubtedly.
>
> (9) Mr. Joi also attended an IT conference in Bangalore
> last year, and made an under the table deal to enable
> Bharti Airtel to come to Bangladesh,  and currently
> acting as their local Agent and has pocketed handsome amount
> paving their way to Bangladesh. He is now involved with
> them in the second undersea fiber optic line,  and also
> making sure they do not need to participate in the
> 2G auction with Grameen Phone and other operators.
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> (10) In the recently held Telecom conference in Barcelona,
> Mr. Joi met privately with the CEO's of several
> Bangladesh Telecom    Operators "privately" to
> negotiate the upcoming 2G auction, and how they
> might leverage his "Consulting Services."
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> (11) Mr. Joi,  as the so-called self declared IT expert
> and IT Advisor to the Bangladesh Prime Minister is also
> very proactive to find    a partner, who can refine the
> requirement for a Satellite and develop and sell it to
> Bangladesh, by making him "Happy." He has
> a front man, named Mr. Rick Rahim from Virginia, USA,
> who acts on his behalf in all such deals!!
>
> (12) Mr. Joi also joined Mummy Prime Minister during her
> trip to China in 2010,  but was busy meeting privately with
> clients who    later submitted bids for the Padma bridge
> and other Ministry of Communications and the Ministry of
> Energy Tenders. He made sure    all Chinese clients
> understood, that they make him Happy, if they wish to win
> any tender bids in Bangladesh while AL in power.
>
> (13) Mr. Joi was also instrumental in facilitating the sale
> of military hardware to Bangladesh Defense forces from
> Ukraine and    Russia, and in return they made him a
> Happy Man for his highly successful Consulting
> Services!! 
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>
> However, India, as it aims to be a growing super power and
> it is greedy to bring the weak neighbor Bangladesh under her
> dominion. They have selected the moment to conflict US
> interests in Bangladesh as US is engaged in the Middle-East
> and African turmoil. Interesting fact is that
> China-USA-Muslim world and European Union don`t accept
> Indian control over Bangladesh, and India wants an absolute
> control over Bangladesh for the need of the Deep Sea Port
> and transit through Bangladesh to its Eastern Provinces. 
> As done with the BDR shortly after her ascension to power,
> this latest episode with Dr. Yunus is part of a deliberate
> attempt on the AL Government to ensure there will be no one
> of world stature available to critique its eveil design in
> Bangladesh.  All Military officials who had questioned the
> Prime Minister after the BDR massacre, were quietly removed
> from the Services and put to Jail and they are still in
> solitary confinement. 
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> Conclusion: Professor Mohammad Yunus was awarded the Noble
> prize for Peace as Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela and Martin
> Luther King Jr. He is not a follower to any
> political leader. Prime Minister of Bangladesh and her
> political party have been campaigning for long time against
> Prof. Yunus. Dr. Yunus was targeted by the Marxist political
> groups, then after the Muslim fundamentalists for his
> micro-credit concept to give emancipation to the women and
> to the poor.  Now finally our Sheikh Hasina is after him,
> because she felt that she should be the rightful candidate
> to win the Peace prize after her work in the Tribal area. 
> There should be a limit to political vendetta and personal
> animosity,  and this should not be hatched at the expense
> of the country. Had Dr. Yunus wanted,  he could be the
> Prime Minister of Bangladesh today,  with full local and
> international support. But he simply wanted to serve his
> country and help the poor people of the world so they could
> live a dignity and self respect.
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> global politics.
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Re: [chottala.com] Re: To our respected Teachers!

Respected Teahers are needed to be honest in speaking teaching and writing.
Respected Teachers are needed to be sincere in learnig and knowing the truth for making knowlege learning resouces for teaching the people to build nation.
Dishonest teachers are worse than Rajakars.

--- On Fri, 25/3/11, Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Re: To our respected Teachers!
> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Friday, 25 March, 2011, 8:57 AM
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> I never subscribed to JSD politics and was never a follower
> of AL politics blindly. I try to be objective as far as
> possible. May be I am a bit biased towards the politics of
> AL as I cannot be with any politics of BNP for obvious
> reasons.  I also have many critics in AL who thinks I
> should not speak some truths so bluntly they do not like.
> Now for the trial of Col. Taher. His deeds on 7th. November
> was not under trial but his trial was. The trial of Col.
> Taher was a miscarriage of justice and absolutely non
> transparent. I expect to write on this. Even the trial of
> killing of Zia was to some extent more transparent though
> many wrong people were tried (it included quite a few of my
> childhood friends). I never supported his deeds on 7th.
> November and I will say so.
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> Many wishes of our Independence day.
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> Thanks for your
> response towards my posting. In my 40 years of life I
> didn't see many Bangladeshis with good political
> consciousness. We are overly biased with our political
> ideology. No matter how educated we are, we simply can't
> go beyond our loyalty towards the preferred
> party/ideology.
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> With no offence to
> Manna sir and all the respected teacher's in these forums,
> in our student life, we observed how teachers (mostly who
> thought in the public universities in Bangladesh) are busy
> aligning themselves among Shada, Neel, Holud and Golapi
> panels. We also observed how the best student can't become
> a teacher if he/she doesn't get the blessing from those
> color coded panels. Contrary, how ordinary student become a
> teacher with the help of same color coded panels.
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> to mention that it is our Sir's who polluted the student
> politics and used us (students) to become the leader of the
> above mentioned colored coded panels and the ultimate price
> is becoming VC. Now days, some of them do politics in the
> public university and teaches in the private ones.
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> also acknowledged, there are still teachers' left who does
> genuinely teaching job. That's why we still have
> institution like BUET and IBA to name a few.
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> can't teacher be involved in politics! Of course they can.
> But they can't encourage students to be a part of it and
> should leave it out side the institution, at least to some
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> Helal
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> the respected teacher's in these forums to not to take my
> writing personally. And I hope my writing is not towards
> them as they don't fall into the teacher's category I
> mentione above. As I said, there are many honorable
> teachers' in Bangladesh, who is keeping
> the teaching profession with minimal financial compensation.
> And some of them still help their student to become
> extraordinary human being. We still visited them and touched
> their feet out of outmost respect because they deserve it.
> Whenever I go home, I make sure to visit few of my teachers
> who taught me throughout my life to be a better human being.
> Not necessarily, to be the best student. One of them
> is Samar Kanti Chowdhury sir, who thought be from Grade 1
> to 6. I wish all the teacher's in Bangladesh is just like
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> Wed, 3/23/11, abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com>
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> From: abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Re: [KHABOR]
> Verdict of Col. Taher Case.
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> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com,
> abid.bahar@gmail.com,
> Ovimot@yahoogroups.com,
> faruquealamgir@gmail.com,
> farhadmazhar@hotmail.com,
> farid2002hossain@hotmail.com,
> notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com,
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> Hasina Fooling People with the Rule of Law
> Abid Bahar
> Professor Mannan is a very enlightened person but at
> the same time I read him in his work that he is an overly
> enthuasistic pro AL person as well. He is an honorable
> person. I don't think I am qualified to say anything to
> increase his enlightenment about Bangladesh politics but I
> want to say one thing to help him understand about his
> enthuasism that with the AL appointed judges some of whom
> were vendals and one was a murder accused, the judgement
> about Taher who was the killer of many innocent army offices
> for implimenting his vision of a the then Chinese style
> sepoy army, Hasina's is clearly politically motivated.
> In this judgement there is nothing to celebrate unless you
> are a hardcore Awami Leaguer enthusiast.
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> Additionally, it says what is legal is not always
> moral. Example: If the fascist leader Sadam made laws, or
> Gaddafi or Mujib with their one party rule, made laws, in
> Mujib's case when the elected Mujib denying the
> people's mandate made laws to supress the opposition
> installed one party rule, killing the opposition with his
> High Court laws, or killing Siraj Sikdar without laws and
> boosting about it,  it was simply a betrayal with the
> people who voted him to power. In the end such leaders as
> was Saddam with his two children were killed by the invasion
> forces, Mujib with his two children were killed by
> Bangladesh army and another dictator Gadafi calling himself
> as a revolutionary stays in power for decades now killing
> his countryman with the same fascist rule of law and who
> knows what awaits for him as well.  
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> In Hasina's case keeping Mahmudur Rahman, the
> editor of a newspaper in jail by Hasina's court was
> legal but abusing power through courts was neither
> democratic nor moral. True, politicians and their
> enthuasiasts are fooling and ruling people with the excuse
> of rule of law- is a village headman style politics brought
> to the city to convince some already enlightened people
> fighting against dictators and fascist regimes worldwide.
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> Assalamualaikum.
> Thanks for sharing your comment on High courts verdict on
> Taher killing.
> Sir,
> in the last few weeks there were many email circling around
> regarding this matter. I also posted a thread few days back.
> I would be honored to hear your feedback in regards of my
> below statement:
> "Assalamua'laikum.
> Ok, for the sake of argument, I accept your notion that
> Ziaur Rahman was a cold blooded murderer for killing Col
> Taher. Then, do you also accept that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
> was also a cold blooded murderer for killing Siraj Sikdar! I
> hope you must read or remember when Bongbondhu proclaimed,
> where is Siraj Sikdar after he was assassinated."
> I'm
> really looking fwd to have a knowledgeable discussion with
> you regarding the hypocrisy in our today's society when it
> comes to discussing Mujib/Zia, India/Pakistan, Tarek/Joy,
> and so on.
> Sir, I
> can assume how busy your life is however, your response is
> much appreciated.
> Helal
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> --- On Tue, 3/22/11, Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
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> Subject: [KHABOR] Verdict of Col. Taher Case.
> To: khabor@yahoogroups.com,
> alapon@yahoogroups.com,
> chottala@yahoogroups.com,
> "Miro Jangi" <mjangi@yahoo.com>,
> Diagnose@yahoogroups.com,
> "shahid mahmud" <shahid6609@yahoo.com>,
> "sultan chowdhury" <chottalasultan@yahoo.com>,
> "Saad Andaleeb" <saadandaleeb@gmail.com>
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> Col. Taher by Gen. Zia was a cold blooded murder and the
> lone person responsible for it was General Zia. The Court
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