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Wednesday, September 23, 2009

RE: [chottala.com] Hi Mr Rana..Asian Highway: Map Talks



Hi Mr Rana
1) You are right.
Every country is doing  bussiness for its own interest. Why Bangladesh will not do  bussiness with India China & other neighbuer countries for the interest of Bangladesh?
 
2) Your opinion is correct.
CTG port can open to doing bussiness  with  India China & with other neighbouer countries for the interest of Bangladesh.
 
BUT:::
3) For doing  it
The POLITICAL leaders of Bangladesh & the Government Administration of Bangladesh are needed to be sincere pro Bangladeshi & are needed to be honest to do works for the interest of Bangladesh.

 
--- On Tue, 22/9/09, Rana@yahoo.com <Rana@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Rana@yahoo.com <Rana@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [chottala.com] Asian Highway: Map Talks
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, 22 September, 2009, 7:13 AM

 

Hello
 We must understand no regional powers such as India is in the business of short cuts or charity, it is just protecting its own interest by trying to expand markets in Bhutan, Bangladesh and Myanmar and more importantly trying to stop Chinese access to Chittagong port (which from security perspective not the greatest thing to have), in one swoop. In other words what India is doing is what any regional bully will do to preserve its own interest against another regional bully, either we can keep whining about it or play the game according to their standards but still protect our own interest, e.g. let the Asian highway be according to India's proposal and at the same time open up Ctg port for chinese trade (we already have Korean epz) so that China builds the short cut thru Myanmar, beautiful balancing act that will be a win win situation for BD. Chances are India will immediately ditch the proposal for its own version of the highway. When life gives us lemon we must learn to make lemonade.
Regards
Rana






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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:17:02 -0700
Subject: [chottala.com] Asian Highway: Map Talks

 



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Re: [chottala.com] A family of Hindus in Bashkali were the victims of dacoity and not a reparcation of Guzrat incidents.



 
Dear All
 
Mr. Siraj uddowllah brought Gujrat Incident out of context in his original
blamed Mr. Shayamol Dutta for not arranging a conference on Guzrat
when there was a massacre of Muslims.
 
Mr. Siraj uddowlah went further to request the Bhorer Kagoj
owner Mr. Saber H. Chowdhuri to take action this one eyed
 hindu editor   . {anything personal ????? ]
 
Now, Mr. uddowllah is changing his stance.....:::
He mentions that Bashkhali horror was  a case of docoity.
 
The tragic Bashkhali incident could be very well be the acts
of some miscreants who are docoits......
Mr. uddowllah should have mentioned that in the first place instead
of bringing Norendra Modi and Guzrat riots while discussing the
conference arranged by DORP.
 
Now, in his present post Mr. Siraj uddowllah says " A family of Hindus in
Bashkali were the victims of dacoity and not a reparcation of
Guzrat incidents."
 
Many people have indicated the incident as communal matter, which
may be  debatable, but I have not seen anyone calling the Bashkhali
tragedy a "reparcation of Guzrat incident ".
 
Can Mr. Siraj uddowllah point out where did someone has called the
Bashkhali Tragedy as the repurcation of Guzrat incident?
As far as I have seen Mr. Siraj uddowllah is the only person who brought
Guzrat massacre while talking about Bashkhali incident ...
 
I only objected to his bringing up the  issue of Gujrat Riots while
discussing an tragic incident at home. Mr. Siraj uddowllah's accusation
in chottala message # 10390  is misleading and totally unfounded.
There is no mix up in my position.... we should not just bring incidents
in India or any other country, out of context explicitly or implicitly, while
discussing a tragic incident in Bangladesh.
 
 
Mr. Siraj uddowllah is at liberty to discuss & condemn
Norendro Modi's crimes and Massacre of Muslims in a different
thread .... But, blaming Mr. Shayamol Dutta for not holding a
conference on Gujrat riot has definitely given his post a vivid
communal.undertone ....... there is an attitude problem that
thrieves on innuendoes .... 
 
There is no denying of the fact that there are many "pockets" in
Bangladesh where minorities, including the Hindus are soft targets
of the criminals, docoits and the land grabbers ......
 
Thanks for everyone's patience.
 
Syed Aslam
 
 
  
On 9/17/09, siraj uddowllah <siraj_58@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear chottala readers,

I also wonder why Mr. Syed Aslam is trying to mix up the case of dacoity incidents with that of communal riots of Guzrat and twisting up the issue towards the communal side. There is no doubt the Bashkali incident was really an inhuman tragedy caused by some dacoits unluckily it was with the Hindu family which may be with the Muslim family also to loot money, ornaments and many other valuable articles according to their suitability and opportunity, and if given any obstacles the nature of these inhuman dacoits to kill them also. There is no resemblance of this dacoity case and also not any reparcation of the communal incidents caused by the fanatic Hindus instigated by a so called well known top political leader of Guzrat happened to be a chief Minister of that particular area named Norendra Singh Modi doing all sorts of rampage, mass killing, looting the Muslim shop intentionally and causing killing of about hundreds or more Muslims by burning them alive mentioning to teach the Muslims how to burn according to the way of Hindu rituals. Not only that those notorious fanatic people tearing and burning our Holy Quran which we used to touch with respect.

The dacoits of Bashkali incidents if recognized and caught would definitely be punished by hanging them by our court of justice for committing such a heinous crime like killing some people of an innocent family even not required to arrange a round table conference also. Mr. Aslam has shown so many links and documents of  some commission made by the Indian high court but what happened for those known culprit especially for Norendra Singh Modi who was the root of all these incidents. He is freely moving in the common public place without any punishment given to him by the Indian high court yet. Because of his misdeeds he did in Guzrat he was refused to give any visa to U.S.A. even.  

Yes I quite agree what Mr. Syed Aslam says people of Bangladesh have every rights to discuss the issues of communal harmony at home, especially towards the minorities if they feel insecure and threatened due to sporadic incidents of intentional communal disharmony. The minorities should have enough assurance and guarantee that such incidents would not be repeated elsewhere in the country. But here in this case of dacoity why to get the smell of communal disharmony as our country not like that of India is well known  as an internationally recognised moderate Muslim country. Actually how much it is wise to mix up the dacoity incidents with the communal case of Guzrat. Can anybody suggest how to stop the dacoity case if it happened again and again suddenly in any place at any time. Is there any benefit of arranging such a round table conference by giving it a shape of a communal case as this was tried by the Editor of Bhorer Kagoz. Because this was not the case of communal disharmony and intolerance towards religious minorities.

Dowllah. 

The following posting by Syed Aslam on 16.9.2009: 

Hindus in Bangladesh do not bear any responsibility for the Gujrat riots......
Why blame them ?
 
 
 
Dear All
 
Like charity communal harmony should also  begin at home:
 
People of Bangladesh have rights to discuss the issues of communal
harmony at home, especially the minorities if they feel insecure and
threatened due to sporadic incidents. The minorities should have
enough assurance and gurranttee that such incidents would not be
repeated elsehere in the country.
 
Hindus in Bangladesh do not bear any responsibility
for the Gujrat riots and should not be blamed as such. The Gujrat riot
has been brought out of context while discussing Bashkhali tragedy.
And BTW, Development Orgnasination of the Rural Poor (DORP),
a non-government organization, arranged the seminar titled 'National
Seminar on Social Harmony and Rights- Banshkhali Tragedy' at
the National Press Club. 
 
Blaming Bangladeshi hindus in general or  Bhorer Kagoj editor
Mr. Shayamal  Dutta in particular, for not "arranging a round table
conference"  for incidents elsewhere [Gujrat riot] is essentially 
exhibits religious prejudice & intolerance through hidden aspersions
and innuendoes, and may lean towards communal provocation at
it's worst.
 
I wonder why Mr. Dowllah is mixing up issues?
 
The People of Bangladesh has maintained a very high degree of
communal harmony and tolerance towards religious minorities,
in general.  However, there are small pockets where  incidents of
violences against hindus (or other minorities) has occured
instgated by a narrow coterie of vested interest.
 
The Bashkhali incident was one such tragedy.
Our nation should not condone any of such incidents under any
pretext whatsoever. Also, we should not put our dirts under the
rugs ..... We should maintain a  zero tolerance policy on all
sort of sectarianism and communalism in our country.
All sorts of communal violence and attrocities should be
exposed, condemned & punished.
 
Communal violences & attrocities in Gujrat on anywhere
in India or China can not justiy the same in Bangladesh.
FYI, Norendra Modi and his BJP cum Sangha Paribar &
Bojrong Dol  goons have been condenmed by the sane
voices in India and all over the world.
 
Norendra Modi has been barred fron entering USA several times
for his role in Gujrat  riots. Various Human Rights organisations in
India and USA have not only condemned but fighting for justice &
punishment of the real purputrators of 2002 Gujrat massacre of the
Muslims. The Human Rights organisations also played a  major role
in revoking Norendra Modi's US visa in 2008 and in his previous
attempt to visit USA.
 
Relared:
Special courts for Gujarat riots - BBC News:
'Gujarat riots had State support':
 

Syed Aslam
 
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FW: [chottala.com] ˜State religion undermines others: Deputy speaker

Dear all chottala readers,

Mr. Shayamal Dutta editor of "Dainik Bhorer Kagoz" arranged a rounnd table conference regarding Bashkali incidents but why he did not arrange such type of conferences when thousands of Muslims were massacred and burned alive in Guzrat by a fanatic hindu chief Minister Norendra Singh Modi. The Bashkali hindu families were human being and Guzrat Muslims were not human? Mr. Shaymal Dutta is taking the full advantage of his being a hindu editor of a newspaper like "Bhorer Kagoz" to arrange such a conference about incidents of a hindu family in Bashkali. Being a responsible editor of a renowned newspaper like Bhorer Kagoz he should be above all sorts of religious prejudice. Mr. Saber Hossain Chowdhury owner of "Bhorer Kagoz" is requested to take action against this one eyed editor of highly reputed newspaper, being involved in trying to create a communal feeling of a peace loving peoples of secular Bangladesh. 

Dowllah.

  
 



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FW: [chottala.com] Attention Mr No Body...Why did India help in 1971? Goodreading ....



 
 
Dear all,
Or hard luck to get plenty of national fraud leaders really not proud of them too for their mockery and treachery to the whole nation, with our maximum disrespect to them from the core of our heart.

What a bad luck for our nation our people will be getting again and again the same those rulers in future also.

Dowllah.

 
 
 
From dina khan:
Mr No body at one point you are right. 
That Indian & Pakistani political leaders are working for their own Interest. Bangladeshi Political leaders are working not for interest of Bangladesh but  for interest own pocket either in favour of Pakistan we call them Rajakar or in favour of India we call them Raw Agent both are enemy people to the people of Bangladesh.


--- On Mon, 21/9/09, Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: [chottala.com] Why did India help in 1971? Goodreading ....
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, 21 September, 2009, 11:53 PM

 
Mr Nobody:
 
Please have a longer memory than 40 years. Read the history of civilization, emperializm and colonialism and then come back - we will talk!
 
Opposing India does not mean supporting Pakistan. Bangladesh has a different geographical location than India or Pakistan. We oppose hegemony of any kind, either militarily, economically, cultarily or trading. Pakistanis might have harmed Bangladesh, India even hurting more and its going ton everyday! Do you remember the river Padma? Its a history now, thank you Indira Gandhi & Farakka!
 
Do you know the current trade deficit between India and Bangladesh? Billions of dollars, ask our Prime Minister, our beloved Hasina?
 
No matter what party you support, our country first, and for your information, its name is Bangldesh, not India.

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, Nobody <> wrote:

From: Nobody <>
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Why did India help in 1971? Goodreading ....
To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 9:53 AM

 
Dear Mr. Saifuddin, Mr. Enayetullah, and Ms. Khan,

All your analyses may be right, may be wrong, may be partially right, may be partially wrong, what do they matter to current perspective of Bangladesh? Is it always that someoene else is wrong and us are always right?

Is it what these writers want to convey that Pakistan was right in the perspective and only India made the separation happen? Means: India broke Pakistan for India's interest only and East Pakistanies has no problems and had no grievances whatsoever, and Pakistan was totally innocent and had nothing to do with the separation of East Pakistan?

Parhaps you guys live in another planet!!!!!

Simply appears to be a band, shunned with vested own personal interst !!!!

Please open eyes and try see and understand the truths around. Selfishness does not always help in everything. Thanks, not to blindness, but definitely to openness and truthfulness.

--- In chottala@yahoogroup s.com, dina khan <dina30_khan@ ...> wrote:
>
> India helped Bangladesh in 1971 not for liberation of Bangladesh but for separation Bangladesh (Then East Pakistan) from Pakistan to breaking & weaking Pakistan for its own political economical & geographical interest.
> After separation Bangladesh from Pakistan all mill Industry of then East Pakistan are closed & destroyed. Bangladesh now has  become the market of Indian goods & the top political leaders of Bangladesh  are now the agents of Indian.They are working for the interest of India not for the Interest  to the people of Bangladesh. 
>
> --- On Thu, 3/9/09, Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@ ...>
> Subject: [chottala.com] Why did India help in 1971? Goodreading ....
> To: "Dhaka Mails" <dhakamails@yahoogro ups.com>, khabor@yahoogroups. com, "alochona" <alochona@yahoogroup s.com>, "chottala" <chottala@yahoogroup s.com>, "odhora" <odhora@yahoogroups. com>, "dahuk dahuk" <dahuk@yahoogroups. com>
> Cc: enayet_2000@ ...
> Received: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 2:06 AM



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