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Monday, October 19, 2009

[chottala.com] Emil von Behring: The Founder of Serum Therapy



 
 
Note: In 1901, the first Nobel Prize for Physiology and Medicine was awarded to
Emil von Behring for "his work on serum therapy against diphtheria". Diphtheria is
a rare disease now because diphtheria vaccination is available to almost every child
born today. But over a century ago, thousands of children died of diphtheria. Von
Behring and his associates were responsible for the cease of this disease.
 
 
 
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Emil von Behring: The Founder of Serum Therapy

Based on an exhibition at Marburg Castle*
Arranged and documented by Kornelia Grundmann
3 December 2001

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Upbringing and Education

Emil Behring (1854-1917) was born on March 15, 1854 in Hansdorf, West Prussia, as the first child of the couple August and Auguste Behring. His father was a village school teacher, who during his first marriage had had four children and after the birth of Emil had another eight children.

A talented pupil, Emil Behring was above all assisted by the village minister, who made it possible for him to attend the Gymnasium (High School) in the village Hohenstein. His orientation as a theology student appeared to have changed after a friend who was a military doctor arranged for him to start his medical studies at the University of Berlin. He obtained a scholarship and from 1874 through 1878 he studied at the Academy for Military Doctors at the Royal Medical-Surgical Friedrich-Wilhelm-Institute, where he also earned his medical degree. In the following years he had to perform as a military doctor and also worked as a troop doctor in various garrisons. After having been assigned as captain of the medical corps to the Pharmacological Institute at the University of Bonn, he was given a position at the Hygiene Institute of Berlin in 1888 as an assistant to Robert Koch (1843-1910), one of the pioneers of bacteriology. During this time, Behring's first authoritative publication on diphtheria and tetanus serum therapy appeared.

Behring
Emil von Behring in a military uniform.
Photo: Courtesy of Aventis Behring


The Behring Family

During his early years as a military doctor, Behring's income was not sufficient for him to think about starting a family. Only in 1896, when he had a regular salary, did he marry the 20 year old Else Spinola. They went on a three-month honeymoon to the island of Capri. Else, born August 30, 1876 in Berlin, was the daughter of Werner Spinola, Administrative Director of Charité, the university medical clinic in Berlin.

In 1898, after having become professor at the University in Marburg (then part of Prussia), Behring moved with his family into a house in Wilhelm-Roser-Strasse in Marburg, where his six sons were born. Behring was a family man, though rather patriarchal, which at that time was quite normal. In the circle of his family he felt content, although his scientific work presumably did not leave him much time for his wife and children.

wedding photo
Wedding picture of Emil and Else von Behring.
Photo: Courtesy of Aventis Behring

On March 31, 1917, Behring died and was entombed in a mausoleum at the Marburg Elsenhöhe. After Behring's death, Else von Behring served as chairwoman of the Women's National Organisation in Marburg, Germany. She died in 1936 of a heart attack at the age of only 59.


Family and Friends

On the list of his sons' godfathers, it appears obvious who stood closest to Emil von Behring besides his family. His first son, Fritz, had the bacteriologist Friedrich Loeffler (1852-1915) and Behring's friend and co-worker, Erich Wernicke as godfathers. The godfather of his third son, Hans, was the Prussian Under-Secretary of Education and Cultural Affairs, Friedrich Althoff. His fifth son, Emil, had as a godfather the Russian researcher Elias Metschnikoff (1845-1916), founder of the theory of phagocytosis, with whom Behring had continuous scientific exchange of ideas. Emil's second godfather was the pupil of Louis Pasteur, Émile Roux (1853-1933), who like Behring Sr. dealt with the fight against diphtheria. In 1913, the godfather of his sixth son, Otto, was the physician Ludolph Brauer (1865-1951), who had taught together with Behring at the Marburg Medical Faculty as a professor of internal medicine.


The Development of the Diphtheria-Therapeutic-Serum

Behring, who in the early 1890s became an assistant at the Institute for Infectious Diseases, headed by Robert Koch, started his studies with experiments on the development of a therapeutic serum. In 1890, together with his university friend Erich Wernicke, he had managed to develop the first effective therapeutic serum against diphtheria. At the same time, together with Shibasaburo Kitasato he developed an effective therapeutic serum against tetanus.

Behring and colleagues
Behring together with his colleagues Wernicke (left) and Frosch (center) in Robert Koch's laboratory in Berlin.
Photo: Courtesy of Aventis Behring

The researchers immunized rats, guinea pigs and rabbits with attenuated forms of the infectious agents causing diphtheria and alternatively, tetanus. The sera produced by these animals were injected into non-immunized animals that were previously infected with the fully virulent bacteria. The ill animals could be cured through the administration of the serum. With the blood serum therapy, Behring and Kitasato firstly used the passive immunization method in the fight against infectious diseases. The particularly poisonous substances from bacteria – or toxins - could be rendered harmless by the serum of animals immunized with attenuated forms of the infectious agent through antidotes or antitoxins.

Kitasato
Shibasaburo Kitasato.
Photo: Courtesy of Aventis Behring


The Introduction of Serum Therapy

The first successful therapeutic serum treatment of a child suffering from diphtheria occurred in 1891. Until then more than 50,000 children in Germany died yearly of diphtheria. During the first few years, there was no successful breakthrough for this form of therapy, as the antitoxins were not sufficiently concentrated. Not until the development of enrichment by the bacteriologist Paul Ehrlich (1854-1915) along with a precise quantification and standardization protocol, was an exact determination of quality of the antitoxins presented and successfully developed. Behring subsequently decided to draw up a contract with Ehrlich as the foundation of their future collaboration. They organized a laboratory under a railroad circle (Stadtbahnbogen) in Berlin, where they could then obtain the serum in large amounts by using large animals – first sheep and later horses.

In 1892, Behring and the Hoechst chemical and pharmaceutical company at Frankfurt/Main, started working together, as they recognized the therapeutic potential of the diphtheria antitoxin. From 1894, the production and marketing of the therapeutic serum began at Hoechst. Besides many positive reactions, there was also noticeable criticism. Resistance, however, was soon put aside, due to the success of the therapy.


The Marburg Years

Behring was given the opportunity to start a university career through one of the leading officers (Ministerialrat) of the Prussian Ministry of Education and Cultural Affairs, Friedrich Althoff (1839-1908), who wanted to improve the control of epidemics in Prussia by supporting bacteriological research. After a short period as professor at the University of Halle-Wittenberg, Behring was recruited by Althoff to take over the vacant chair in hygiene at Philipps Marburg University on April 1, 1895. His appointment as full professor followed shortly thereafter against the will of the faculty, who besides all of Behring's outstanding discoveries, wanted a university lecturer who would broadly represent the field. However, Althoff rejected all counterproposals and Behring took over as Director of the Institute of Hygiene at Marburg. His position included giving lectures for hygiene and concurrently held a teaching contract in the history of medicine. In 1896, the Marburg Institute of Hygiene moved to a building on a road nearby Pilgrimstein Road, previously the Surgery Clinic. Behring divided the Institute into two departments, a Research Department for Experimental Therapy and a Teaching Department for Hygiene and Bacteriology. He remained Director of the Institute until his retirement as professor in May 1916.


Scientific Contacts

Behring belonged to a scientific discussion group called "The Marburg Circle" (das Marburger Kränzchen), whose other members were the zoologist Eugen Korschelt (1858-1946), the surgeon Paul Friedrich (1864-1916), the botanist Arthur Meyer (1850-1922), the physiologist Friedrich Schenk (1862-1916), the pathologist Carl August Beneke (1861-1945) and the pharmacologist August Gürber (1864-1937). They often met at Behring's home where they had rounds of vivid and prolific scientific discussions.


Active Protective Vaccination against Diphtheria



vials
Old vials (1897 and 1906) with hand-written labels.
Photo: Courtesy of Aventis Behring

The therapeutic serum developed by Behring prevented diphtheria for only a short period of time. In 1901, Behring, therefore, for the first time, used a diphtheria innoculation of bacteria with reduced virulence. With this active immunization he hoped to help the body also produce antitoxins. As a supporter of the humoral theory of immune response, Behring believed in the long-term protective action of these antitoxins found in serum. It is well-established knowledge today that active vaccination stimulates the antitoxin (antibody) producing cells to full function.

The development of an active vaccine took a few years. In 1913, Behring went public with his diphtheria protective agent, T.A. (Toxin-Antitoxin). It contained a mixture of diphtheria toxin and therapeutic serum antitoxin. The toxin was meant to cause a light general response of the body, but not to harm the person who is vaccinated. In addition, it was designed to provide long-term protection. The new drug was tested at various clinics and was proven to be non-harmful and effective.


Tetanus Therapeutic Serum during World War I

In 1891, tetanus serum was introduced considerably more quickly in clinical practices than the diphtheria serum. The Agricultural Ministry supported research efforts to develop a therapeutic agent against tetanus to protect agriculturally valuable animals. The large amounts of serum required were obtained through the immunization of horses. However, there was no substantial clinical testing on humans; this led the Military Administration to accept it only on a small scale at the beginning of World War I.

During the first months of the war, this restraint led to massive losses of human lives. Also, after the distribution of the tetanus antitoxins in the military hospitals, many futile attempts at therapy were noted. At the end of 1914, as a result of Behring's constructive assistance, the injection of serum was established as preventing disease. Starting in April 1915, the mistakes in dosage and the shortage of supplies were overcome and the numbers of sick fell dramatically. Behring was declared "Saviour of the German Soldiers" and was awarded the the Prussian Iron Cross medal.

engraving
Historical engraving showing how the medicinal serum was obtained from immunized horses.
Photo: Courtesy of Aventis Behring


An Attempt to Develop a Therapeutic Method against Tuberculosis

After Robert Koch had failed with his tuberculosis therapy in 1893, Behring began to search for an effective therapeutic agent against this disease. However, very soon, he had to admit that combating tuberculosis using a healing serum was not feasible. Therefore, he concentrated on working on a preventive vaccination, which, however, required precise knowledge of the mechanism of infection. In Behring's view, the tubercle bacillus was transmitted to children through the milk of a mother or a cow infected with tuberculosis. He then started treating milk with formaldehyde, so as to eliminate this source of infection. This procedure was not accepted due to the bad smell of the milk. Moreover, the transmission of tubercle bacilli through the respiratory tract was proven to be more likely than through the digestive system, as had been claimed by Behring.

From 1903, Behring worked on active immunization through attenuated tuberculosis infectious agents, which he then tried on cows, however, with only moderate success. His aim was to obtain a protective and therapeutic agent for humans. A number of agents (tuberculase, tulase, tulaseactin, tulon) failed to make a breakthrough. At the beginning of World War I, Behring halted his efforts to combat tuberculosis and dedicated himself entirely to the further development of tetanus serum.


Behring's Relationship to Paul Ehrlich

Paul Ehrlich was Behring's colleague at Robert Koch's institute. Here, he was able to work out a reliable and reproducible standardization method for diphtheria serum. However, in later years, tension developed between the two researchers. Differences with Ehrlich's pupil, Hans Aronson, resulted in bad feelings, which increased when Ehrlich's Royal Institute of Experimental Therapy was founded at Frankfurt/Main. The previous friendship between the two researchers never fully succumbed, through the mediation of Friedrich Althoff. However, it was subsequently demonstrated that the only photograph showing Behring and Ehrlich together, which appeared on the cover of a Berlin newspaper on the occasion of their 60th birthday in 1914, was a photomontage made up of two separate photographs.

report
Report of the Berliner Illustrirte Zeitung (Berlin Illustrated Newspaper) about Emil von Behring and Paul Erlich and their work on the occasion of their 60th birthday.
Photo: Courtesy of Aventis Behring


Behring's Health

Behring lived entirely for his idea of revolutionizing medicine through serum therapy. This idea hung above him and motivated him, in his own words, "like a demon." His enormous concentration on his work often drove him to physical illnesses, as well as to deep depressions, which forced him to take time off work for a sanatorium stay from 1907 through 1910.


Acknowledgements and Honors

In 1903, Emil von Behring was given the title of "Wirklicher Geheimer Rat mit dem Prädikat Excellenz" by the German emperor Wilhelm II. The diploma says: "This is in order that Behring should remain in unbroken loyalty to Myself and the Royal Family and to fulfill his official responsibility with continuous eagerness, whereby he who has the right connected to his present character, will receive the highest protection by Myself". A splendid uniform was provided along with the title.

In 1901, when the Nobel Prizes were awarded for the first time, Behring received the Prize in Physiology or Medicine.

diploma
A detail (right) and the diploma for the first Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, awarded to Behring in 1901.
Photo: Courtesy of Aventis Behring


Behring Jubilee in 1940

On December 4, 1940, the Philipps University Marburg celebrated the 50th anniversary of the original publication of Emil von Behring's decisive discovery of serum therapy. Top leaders of the National Socialist Party, the rectors of numerous German universities, representatives of the Behringwerke and many scientists and friends of Emil von Behring from abroad were also present. The celebration, which continued over a few days, began with lectures and addresses by officials, both of the state and party. Finally, a foundation certificate for a new Institute for Experimental Therapy was handed over. The professors then moved from the university auditorium (Aula), to unveal a new Behring Memorial close to the St. Elisabeth Church. The celebration was followed by a two-day scientific meeting, presenting the state of the art of immunology and the fight against infectious diseases.


The Background of the Celebration

In the view of the National Socialists, Else von Behring was regarded as a "half-Jew", as her mother came from a Jewish family. With the help of a number of friends she was able to get her sons accepted by Hitler as "Aryans" and not stigmatized as "half-breeds". After the death of Else von Behring in 1936, no obstacles were left for the Nazi party to use Emil von Behring as a glorified representative of national socialist "Germanic" science. During the ceremony there were, however, some signs of tension. Although one of Behring's sons participated in the ceremony, he was not greeted by any of the official speakers. Only the Danish researcher, Thorvald Madsen from Copenhagen, who had previously been chairman of the Health Organisation of the League of Nations, dared to mention Behring's friendly connection with researchers from enemy countries, such as those at the Institut Pasteur in Paris. Courageously, he also recalled the great bacteriologist Paul Ehrlich, despised by the Nazis due to his Jewish origin, who had played a significant role in Behring's successes.



*The exhibition was from October to December 2001.

Translated by Gabriella Nichols, Department of Anatomy, Philipps University Marburg, Germany.
 


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[chottala.com] Iran blames Pakistan for attack



Iran blames Pakistan for attack
 Ahmadinejad has asked Pakistan to
hand over 'the criminals' to Tehran [AFP]

Iran's president has accused Pakistan of having links to the bombers who carried out a suicide attack on Sunday in the republic's Sunni-majority southeast that left at least 42 people dead.

The Fars news agency on Monday quoted Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as saying that he knew "some security agents in Pakistan are co-operating with the main elements of this terrorist incident" in Sistan-Baluchestan province.

"We regard it as our right to demand these criminals from them", he said, without giving further details.

The head of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, Major-General Muhammad Ali Jafari, named the prime suspect behind the bombing as Abd ul-Malik Rigi - who is believed to be based in Pakistan.

Jafari said Tehran would send a delegaton to Islamabad to deliver "proof to them so they know that the Islamic Republic is aware of Pakistan's support".

He also expressed his belief that US and British intelligence services were involved and that there would "have to be retaliatory measures to punish them".

And state television said Iran's foreign ministry summoned a senior Pakistani diplomat in Tehran and informed him that "the perpetrators of this attack came to Iran from Pakistan".

But a Pakistani foreign ministry spokesman rejected the claim. "Pakistan is not involved in terrorist activities ... we are striving to eradicate this menace," he said.

Jundollah blamed

Ahmadinejad's accusation came after Iranian state media blamed Sunni group Jundollah for the attack in the city of Pisheen.

But other Iranian officials and academics point the finger of blame at the United States and the United Kingdom.

Mohammad Marandi, an assistant professor at the University of Tehran, told Al Jazeera the attack could further damage Iran's relations with the US.
 

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"On the one hand, the Americans are talking about rapprochement and building a new future, yet at the same time we see the Americans supporting groups in [Iran's] Kurdish regions as well as in Sistan-Baluchestan," he said.

Washington has denied involvement with the group, which it has labelled as a "terrorist" organisation, and condemned the attack.

"We condemn this act of terrorism and mourn the loss of innocent lives," Ian Kelly, the US state department spokesman, said in a statement soon after the blast occurred.

"Reports of alleged US involvement are completely false," he said.

Tehran has also suggested that Saudi Arabia and Britain may have supported Jundollah to stir up trouble in the border area.

Majid Tafreshi, an Iranian researcher at University College London who specialises in ethnic and religious minorities, said there were clues as to the involvement of Western nations.
 
"Generally you cannot find any proof about this claim, but there are some clues," he told Al Jazeera. "The previous American governments used to play with ethnic minority and ethnic religious groups to play with Iranian politics."

On wanted list

Tafreshi said "you can see in British media nowadays that people who are representative of this terrorist group are easily working and talking to British media and involved in politics and lobbying parliament ... while this group is on the terrorist list and its leaders on the wanted list of Interpol."

Al Jazeera's Nazanine Moshiri, reporting from Tehran, said: "There's a history in Iran of pointing the finger at foreign outside intervention for causing instability.

"There was a report in the New Yorker about a year ago by the journalist Seymour Hersh who said the United States Congress had secretly agreed to President [George] Bush's funding of about $400m to give Washington a free hand in arming and funding militant groups like Jundollah.

"Obviously those claims haven't been backed up by any evidence but the Iranians do believe the Americans have been helping Jundollah in their fight in the southeast."

But some analysts have rejected the idea that the West supports Jundollah and other ethnic groups.

Ali Nouri Zada, the director of the Arab-Iranian Studies Centre in London, told Al Jazeera: "It's very easy to point at Saudi, to the British and Americans ... [but] it [Jundollah] is a local organisation,"

Zada noted that relations between Iran and Pakistan have been generally good in recent years and the neighbours are co-operating on plans to build a natural gas pipeline link.

 Source: Al Jazeera and agencies
 
 

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[chottala.com] WHO IS WIPING WHO OFF THE MAP?



WHO IS WIPING WHO OFF THE MAP?

 
 

I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place.

... Winston Churchill to the Palestine Royal Commission (1937)

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[chottala.com] Fw: Watch Out for Indian Involvement in Burma





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Subject: Watch Out for Indian Involvement in Burma

Watch Out for Indian Involvement in Burma

By Abid Bahar,

Lately Burma shows genuine confidence for a possible confrontation with Bangladesh. This could be due to Indian involvement in Burmese politics especially in the disputes over the maritime boundary. In this area India and Burma are working together against Bangladesh.

We also have reports about Indian presence in Arakan gas projects and in the Kaladan River transit for India to the Bay of Bengal. Lately, India is also actively helping the Burmese military to fight against the Burmese ethnic minorities. It appears that to help the military distract its present Burmese democracy movement by the ethnic minorities; the notorious Indian policy makers might even help Burma to start a war with Bangladesh. Indian army chief visits Burma. (WAI MOE, India's Army Chief visits Burma(http://www.irrawaddy.org/article.php?art_id=16978). We don't know what is in their mind.

Like the 1/11 show and the Pilkhana tragedy, we came to know only after it was all over. The devil is in Burma on the driver seat! Burma's trope build-up and over confidence with Bangladesh means something. Arakanese supreme leader Aye Kyaw officially claims that Chittagong belongs to Burma and demands Burmese military's help. If war takes place, it will involve superpowers and ultimately like the first British involvement in Burma, this time allows direct American involvement in Burma-Bangladesh politics.

We know that USA has some development/ (underdevelopment) projects in Southern Chittagong. The US army did detail mapping of the Bangladesh-Burma border region during the Moin U backed puppet Care taker govt. The consequence of such a bloody American handshake will be the displacement and death of both innocent Burmese and Bangladeshi people and the loss of democracy or the loss of the prospects of democracy in both countries. As we know, war brings superpower's testing arms but for the victim the financial dependence and human suffering in countries already in debt. This could be the other fallout of the Bush era India- US alliance and an Indian proxy war against Bangladesh. Our research institutes and policy makers should watch out the devil in detail.

References:

WAI MOE, India's Army Chief visits Burma
http://www.irrawaddy.org/article.php?art_id=16978

Abid Bahar, Burma's Missing Dots, 2008

News from Bangladesh,
Hundreds being tossed across Bangladesh-Myanmar border: Report
http://www.samaylive.com/news/hundreds-bei...ort/662914.html

Abid Bahar,
Canada
E mail : abidbahar@yahoo.com

http://newsfrombangladesh.net/view.php?hidRecord=289924



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