The micro-credit system can not be a means of poverty alleviation,rather it is deeply linked to capitalism that finally helps poverty continue,they said at the publication ceremony of a book at the Jatiya Press Club.(Daily Star: Feb 24, 2007)
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Dilawar Hossain <Oline2@cox.net> wrote:
Dear Mr. AzadInstead of criticizing or pointing a fingers , we need to understand structures of non profit organization, least we could do, is to give something to our society like Dr. Yunus and Mr. Abed of BRAC or able to do something 1/10 th of one million that Dr. Yunus or Mr. Abed of BRAC had done for BangladeshHow many of us know of BRAC ? It is also a non profit organization. But again, it has over 100 different organization operates for profit and employs millions, so do proshika and so do Grameen.We all must consider to think broader spectrum of social investment that can employs 100 s if not million and able to feed millions of young and vulnerable. And I like to say loud and clear Allah to give us the strength and courage to something that Dr. Yunus or Mr. Abed or Bill Bill Clinton, or Collin Powel or Mr. Carter and let us not say or criticize what he did or done but ask ourselves , if we could do the least ?Dilawar HossainWashington DC----- Original Message -----From: AbdurRahim AzadSent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:15 AMSubject: Re: [chottala.com] Fw: [Alapon] Prof Yunus News
Dr. Yunus has been a vocal critic of commercialised, for-profit microfinance. But in recent years, Grameen Bank has emerged as the joint venture partner of choice for many foreign companies seeking to do business in Bangladesh, including Norway's Telenor, France's Danone, and Japanese clothing company Fast Retailing, the maker of the Uniqlo brand.
For-profit Norweigian company Telenor holds 55.8 per cent of Dr. Yunus'sGrameenphone listed in Oslo Stock Exchange, with headquartersin Norway.In August-September, 2008, During last CTG period, $60 million in fineswas saddled on Grameenphone by Bangladeshi regulators for illegalities.Initially, Dr. Yunus threatened to sue in a news conference, but latersoftened his stance, saying a lawsuit was only a "remote possibility."Eventually, Grameenphone tacitly paid the fines........ (reuters).It is the Norweigian's who awarded Peace Prize to Dr. Yunus (NobelThe Peace Prize committee is head quartered in Norway not in in Sweedenwhere the other Nobel Prize committees are based).Now we are hearing :" Norweigians are after grameen bank money and itsreputation ......"The cats keep coming out of the bag …:"Grameen Bank's filling a case against the news media whois trying to tarnish Dr.Younus and country's image"will reveal more insidious stories into public ...........Dr. Yunus is cleaver man ..... I don't think he will letmore cats come out of his bags…Mr. Dilawar Hossain writes:"We sincerely look forward to see yourinitiative to aliviate poverty that we can be proud of Mr. Azadinitiative to aliviate poverty........."Mr. Hossain seems to drag the discussions on "political-economy and socio-politicalissues" to the personal level which is utterly diplorable......In any case, "micro credit" option has failed as a viable model frommacro-economic stand point.As far as I understand alleviation of poverty through "micro-finance"was a cheap sham, a hoax .... In today's world, "poverty alleviation"has become a big business under different lebash (cloak/outerwear).I am not interested in wearing a deceptive lebash for my personal gains.I rely on my own labor to earn a living and live within my modestmeans.... I have no amition to be "rich and famous"........By the way, the Yunus matter has become a "talk of the town" worldover: Reuters, WSJ, and many leading news agencies and mediaha already focused on it.The link :http://www.banglanews24.com/detailsnews.php?nssl=f0a94cc746c82ccf258040d541a2e15e&nttl=2010120418774details the research behind the exposure of Dr. Yunus.Related Wall Street Journal news item:Thanks for your patience.A Rahim AzadPS: Dr. Yunus didn't receive the prize in Economics (from Sweeden).Dr. Yunus was awarded Nobel Prize for Peace (from Norway) whichessentially has many political connotations ....: Even the Israeli leaderslike Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin are Nobel Peace LaureatesList of Peace Laureates (last few Years):2008
Martti Ahtisaariformer President of Finland
2007
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) ,Albert Arnold (Al) Gore Jr.
2005
International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) ,Mohamed ElBaradei
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Dilawar Hossain <Oline2@cox.net> wrote:With all due respect , we must not conclude all the people in the world are WRONG of Prof Yunus and all the great economist WRONG adopting Prof Yunus's initiative to aliviate poverty. Your statement seems that you have better options to aliviate poverty in Bangladesh. We sincerely look forward to see your initiative to aliviate poverty that we can be proud of Mr. Azad initiative to aliviate poverty..As far as BD news 24, they need to be transparent , i mean transparent and not to copy interest groups deliverate propaganda like WMD. There are over 50 reporter in BDnews 24. should have enough resource their own to investigated authenticity of the news instead coping NNT .Tomorrow, If LONDON TABLOID "SUN" PUBLISH A FALSE NEWS of PM SHEIKH HASINA . SHOULD,NT WE CHECK BEFORE DELIVERING THE NEWS TO 160 MILLION BANGLADESHI ?I THINK WE ALL SHOULD BE CAREFUL FOR THE TRUTH AND PROTECT OUR NATIONAL IMAGE THAT WE CAN BE PROUD IN GLOBAL POLITICS..-----Original Message -----From: AbdurRahim AzadSent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:27 PMSubject: Re: [Alapon] Prof Yunus NewsDo we really want to achieve "national pride" by the way of deceptions?
Professor Yunus may get away on technicalities......but the bottom
line is: the "micro credit" model has failed to aliviate proverty in the
truest sense.
National Pride: Nijere Korite Gourob Dan Nijere Koboli Kori Apoman !!!!!!
BTW, why blame BDNews24? The story was originated
by National Norwegian Television, and supported by in depth
research....
I have always wondered, why Professor Yunus was not given
Nobel Prize in Economics. He was awarded Nobel Prize for Peace,
which is a political tool controlled by certain vested quarter in the
west.
A Rahim Azad
On 12/5/10, Dilawar Hossain <Oline2@cox.net> wrote:
RE: Prof Yunus News
I am reacting to the news of Prof Yunus and that I do not wish to conclude
defaming our national pride. I also understand our Finance Minister AMA
Muhith has said that there was nothing wrong in the transfer of funds from
Grameen Bank to Grameen Kalyan and vice versa.
Frankly , the news brought very many debate in Bangladeshi Beltway politics
and I am sure of the same around the world.
I believe it is a misleading news and personal vendetta against prof Yunus
that strategically published globally.
I shame and specially regret and object to BDNews. 24 on Dec 1, that a
statement " siphoning off " of a large amount money by Professor Yunus"
It is cruel and a personal vendetta to defame our national pride around the
world.
I hope, the news and the investigation is false and a total fabrication and
baseless. and we wait to see an independent investigation.
By : Dilawar HossainOn Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Dilawar Hossain <Oline2@cox.net> wrote:
With all due respect , we must not conclude all the people in the world are WRONG of Prof Yunus and all the great economist WRONG adopting Prof Yunus's initiative to aliviate poverty. Your statement seems that you have better options to aliviate poverty in Bangladesh. We sincerely look forward to see your initiative to aliviate poverty that we canbe proud of Mr. Azad initiative to aliviate poverty..As far as BD news 24, they need to be transparent , i mean transparent and not to copy interest groups deliverate propaganda like WMD. There are over 50 reporter in BDnews 24. should have enough resource their own to investigated authenticity of the news instead coping NNT .Tomorrow, If LONDON TABLOID "SUN" PUBLISH A FALSE NEWS of PM SHEIKH HASINA . SHOULD,NT WE CHECK BEFORE DELIVERING THE NEWS TO 160 MILLION BANGLADESHI ?I THINK WE ALL SHOULD BE CAREFUL FOR THE TRUTH AND PROTECT OUR NATIONAL IMAGE THAT WE CAN BE PROUD IN GLOBAL POLITICS..Subject: Re: [Alapon] Prof Yunus NewsDo we really want to achieve "national pride" by the way of deceptions?
Professor Yunus may get away on technicalities......but the bottom
line is: the "micro credit" model has failed to aliviate proverty in the
truest sense.
National Pride: Nijere Korite Gourob Dan Nijere Koboli Kori Apoman !!!!!!
BTW, why blame BDNews24? The story was originated
by National Norwegian Television, and supported by in depth
research....
I have always wondered, why Professor Yunus was not given
Nobel Prize in Economics. He was awarded Nobel Prize for Peace,
which is a political tool controlled by certain vested quarter in the
west.
A Rahim Azad
On 12/5/10, Dilawar Hossain <Oline2@cox.net> wrote:
RE: Prof Yunus News
I am reacting to the news of Prof Yunus and that I do not wish to conclude
defaming our national pride. I also understand our Finance Minister AMA
Muhith has said that there was nothing wrong in the transfer of funds from
Grameen Bank to Grameen Kalyan and vice versa.
Frankly , the news brought very many debate in Bangladeshi Beltway politics
and I am sure of the same around the world.
I believe it is a misleading news and personal vendetta against prof Yunus
that strategically published globally.
I shame and specially regret and object to BDNews. 24 on Dec 1, that a
statement " siphoning off " of a large amount money by Professor Yunus"
It is cruel and a personal vendetta to defame our national pride around the
world.
I hope, the news and the investigation is false and a total fabrication and
baseless. and we wait to see an independent investigation.
By : Dilawar Hossain
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Dear Mr. AzadInstead of criticizing or pointing a fingers , we need to understand structures of non profit organization, least we could do, is to give something to our society like Dr. Yunus and Mr. Abed of BRAC or able to do something 1/10 th of one million that Dr. Yunus or Mr. Abed of BRAC had done for BangladeshHow many of us know of BRAC ? It is also a non profit organization. But again, it has over 100 different organization operates for profit and employs millions, so do proshika and so do Grameen.We all must consider to think broader spectrum of social investment that can employs 100 s if not million and able to feed millions of young and vulnerable. And I like to say loud and clear Allah to give us the strength and courage to something that Dr. Yunus or Mr. Abed or Bill Bill Clinton, or Collin Powel or Mr. Carter and let us not say or criticize what he did or done but ask ourselves , if we could do the least ?Dilawar HossainWashington DC----- Original Message -----From: AbdurRahim AzadSent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:15 AMSubject: Re: [chottala.com] Fw: [Alapon] Prof Yunus News
Dr. Yunus has been a vocal critic of commercialised, for-profit microfinance. But in recent years, Grameen Bank has emerged as the joint venture partner of choice for many foreign companies seeking to do business in Bangladesh, including Norway's Telenor, France's Danone, and Japanese clothing company Fast Retailing, the maker of the Uniqlo brand.
For-profit Norweigian company Telenor holds 55.8 per cent of Dr. Yunus'sGrameenphone listed in Oslo Stock Exchange, with headquartersin Norway.In August-September, 2008, During last CTG period, $60 million in fineswas saddled on Grameenphone by Bangladeshi regulators for illegalities.Initially, Dr. Yunus threatened to sue in a news conference, but latersoftened his stance, saying a lawsuit was only a "remote possibility."Eventually, Grameenphone tacitly paid the fines........ (reuters).It is the Norweigian's who awarded Peace Prize to Dr. Yunus (NobelThe Peace Prize committee is head quartered in Norway not in in Sweedenwhere the other Nobel Prize committees are based).Now we are hearing :" Norweigians are after grameen bank money and itsreputation ......"The cats keep coming out of the bag …:"Grameen Bank's filling a case against the news media whois trying to tarnish Dr.Younus and country's image"will reveal more insidious stories into public ...........Dr. Yunus is cleaver man ..... I don't think he will letmore cats come out of his bags…Mr. Dilawar Hossain writes:"We sincerely look forward to see yourinitiative to aliviate poverty that we can be proud of Mr. Azadinitiative to aliviate poverty........."Mr. Hossain seems to drag the discussions on "political-economy and socio-politicalissues" to the personal level which is utterly diplorable......In any case, "micro credit" option has failed as a viable model frommacro-economic stand point.As far as I understand alleviation of poverty through "micro-finance"was a cheap sham, a hoax .... In today's world, "poverty alleviation"has become a big business under different lebash (cloak/outerwear).I am not interested in wearing a deceptive lebash for my personal gains.I rely on my own labor to earn a living and live within my modestmeans.... I have no amition to be "rich and famous"........By the way, the Yunus matter has become a "talk of the town" worldover: Reuters, WSJ, and many leading news agencies and mediaha already focused on it.The link :http://www.banglanews24.com/detailsnews.php?nssl=f0a94cc746c82ccf258040d541a2e15e&nttl=2010120418774details the research behind the exposure of Dr. Yunus.Related Wall Street Journal news item:Thanks for your patience.A Rahim AzadPS: Dr. Yunus didn't receive the prize in Economics (from Sweeden).Dr. Yunus was awarded Nobel Prize for Peace (from Norway) whichessentially has many political connotations ....: Even the Israeli leaderslike Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin are Nobel Peace LaureatesList of Peace Laureates (last few Years):2008
Martti Ahtisaariformer President of Finland
2007
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) ,Albert Arnold (Al) Gore Jr.
2005
International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) ,Mohamed ElBaradei
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Dilawar Hossain <Oline2@cox.net> wrote:With all due respect , we must not conclude all the people in the world are WRONG of Prof Yunus and all the great economist WRONG adopting Prof Yunus's initiative to aliviate poverty. Your statement seems that you have better options to aliviate poverty in Bangladesh. We sincerely look forward to see your initiative to aliviate poverty that we can be proud of Mr. Azad initiative to aliviate poverty..As far as BD news 24, they need to be transparent , i mean transparent and not to copy interest groups deliverate propaganda like WMD. There are over 50 reporter in BDnews 24. should have enough resource their own to investigated authenticity of the news instead coping NNT .Tomorrow, If LONDON TABLOID "SUN" PUBLISH A FALSE NEWS of PM SHEIKH HASINA . SHOULD,NT WE CHECK BEFORE DELIVERING THE NEWS TO 160 MILLION BANGLADESHI ?I THINK WE ALL SHOULD BE CAREFUL FOR THE TRUTH AND PROTECT OUR NATIONAL IMAGE THAT WE CAN BE PROUD IN GLOBAL POLITICS..-----Original Message -----From: AbdurRahim AzadSent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:27 PMSubject: Re: [Alapon] Prof Yunus NewsDo we really want to achieve "national pride" by the way of deceptions?
Professor Yunus may get away on technicalities......but the bottom
line is: the "micro credit" model has failed to aliviate proverty in the
truest sense.
National Pride: Nijere Korite Gourob Dan Nijere Koboli Kori Apoman !!!!!!
BTW, why blame BDNews24? The story was originated
by National Norwegian Television, and supported by in depth
research....
I have always wondered, why Professor Yunus was not given
Nobel Prize in Economics. He was awarded Nobel Prize for Peace,
which is a political tool controlled by certain vested quarter in the
west.
A Rahim Azad
On 12/5/10, Dilawar Hossain <Oline2@cox.net> wrote:
RE: Prof Yunus News
I am reacting to the news of Prof Yunus and that I do not wish to conclude
defaming our national pride. I also understand our Finance Minister AMA
Muhith has said that there was nothing wrong in the transfer of funds from
Grameen Bank to Grameen Kalyan and vice versa.
Frankly , the news brought very many debate in Bangladeshi Beltway politics
and I am sure of the same around the world.
I believe it is a misleading news and personal vendetta against prof Yunus
that strategically published globally.
I shame and specially regret and object to BDNews. 24 on Dec 1, that a
statement " siphoning off " of a large amount money by Professor Yunus"
It is cruel and a personal vendetta to defame our national pride around the
world.
I hope, the news and the investigation is false and a total fabrication and
baseless. and we wait to see an independent investigation.
By : Dilawar HossainOn Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Dilawar Hossain <Oline2@cox.net> wrote:
With all due respect , we must not conclude all the people in the world are WRONG of Prof Yunus and all the great economist WRONG adopting Prof Yunus's initiative to aliviate poverty. Your statement seems that you have better options to aliviate poverty in Bangladesh. We sincerely look forward to see your initiative to aliviate poverty that we canbe proud of Mr. Azad initiative to aliviate poverty..As far as BD news 24, they need to be transparent , i mean transparent and not to copy interest groups deliverate propaganda like WMD. There are over 50 reporter in BDnews 24. should have enough resource their own to investigated authenticity of the news instead coping NNT .Tomorrow, If LONDON TABLOID "SUN" PUBLISH A FALSE NEWS of PM SHEIKH HASINA . SHOULD,NT WE CHECK BEFORE DELIVERING THE NEWS TO 160 MILLION BANGLADESHI ?I THINK WE ALL SHOULD BE CAREFUL FOR THE TRUTH AND PROTECT OUR NATIONAL IMAGE THAT WE CAN BE PROUD IN GLOBAL POLITICS..Subject: Re: [Alapon] Prof Yunus NewsDo we really want to achieve "national pride" by the way of deceptions?
Professor Yunus may get away on technicalities......but the bottom
line is: the "micro credit" model has failed to aliviate proverty in the
truest sense.
National Pride: Nijere Korite Gourob Dan Nijere Koboli Kori Apoman !!!!!!
BTW, why blame BDNews24? The story was originated
by National Norwegian Television, and supported by in depth
research....
I have always wondered, why Professor Yunus was not given
Nobel Prize in Economics. He was awarded Nobel Prize for Peace,
which is a political tool controlled by certain vested quarter in the
west.
A Rahim Azad
On 12/5/10, Dilawar Hossain <Oline2@cox.net> wrote:
RE: Prof Yunus News
I am reacting to the news of Prof Yunus and that I do not wish to conclude
defaming our national pride. I also understand our Finance Minister AMA
Muhith has said that there was nothing wrong in the transfer of funds from
Grameen Bank to Grameen Kalyan and vice versa.
Frankly , the news brought very many debate in Bangladeshi Beltway politics
and I am sure of the same around the world.
I believe it is a misleading news and personal vendetta against prof Yunus
that strategically published globally.
I shame and specially regret and object to BDNews. 24 on Dec 1, that a
statement " siphoning off " of a large amount money by Professor Yunus"
It is cruel and a personal vendetta to defame our national pride around the
world.
I hope, the news and the investigation is false and a total fabrication and
baseless. and we wait to see an independent investigation.
By : Dilawar Hossain
__._,_.___
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