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Thursday, March 31, 2011

[chottala.com] Sharmila Bose



Journalist Haroon Habib on Sharmila Bose. The link is given below:

Mannan


http://www.dailyjanakantha.com/news_view.php?nc=16&dd=2011-04-01&ni=54311
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Re: [chottala.com] Hazaaar Bochorer Sorbo Shreshto Bangalee ----------- !!!!!



The Great Bengali of all times's Original Sin
Abid Bahar
Immediately after the WW 11 remember what the Allied forces did? It documented the violations by the NAZI government. Shaikh Mujib the non intellectual demogague after nine months absence returns to Bangladesh, like always lying,exaggerating, always using cover up, using cadres in politics, with this very sacred task of how many people were killed by the Pakistani occupation forces he did the same thing with a lie: Not 36 thousand killed as Pakistan claimed, not 1 million that India claimed but three million and he claims another half a million women raped.
While doing this Mujib the absentee leader didn't forget to turn himself into a semi god like leader who neither made a survey nor gave the right figure on how many people died and raped. But Mujib like his every other messy job made a mess in this national responsibility as well. However, the power hungry Mujib sucessfully made the BKSAL, by killing the infant democracy and sucessfully made him the father of the nation. For his autocratic rule he then became one of the defeated forces. 

Now the nation despairs to know who to blame for the original sin of not knowing how many were killed, and raped: Isn't it the demogague turned into the great Bengali of all times, the flunked administrator of all times, and the heo-worshippers to blame?



On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Mr Faruque Alamgir
No wonder, now you "are really confused that how an immigrant be
turned native and be the best"  !!!!!  Your comment is not an isolated event
and very consistent with your other motivated comments & previously
expressed attitudes !!! ......
 
As a Zindabadi-Antellectual, you must be aware of the fact that
the population of the delta and it's neighbouring lands are not a
"pure" homogenous ethno-racial entity ...... There are aryan, dravidian
and mongoloid races intermixed .... There are austro-asiatic tribes
as well.
Read more:
 
To make the long story short: Any individual or group, irrespective of
ethenic origin who has settled down in our deltaic plain [delta plain
at the confluence of the Ganges (Padma), Brahmaputra ( Jamuna),
and Meghna Rivers and their tributaries] and assimilated with our people
and adopted Bangla as his/her mother tongue through the historical
processes is a Bangalee.... [A melting pot -  heterogeneous
groups become more homogeneous through historical processes]
 
The "Hazaaar Bochorer Sorbo Shreshto Bangalee"   comes from the
standpoint of his contribution to the people of today's Bangladesh who
has thousand years of history and his leadership that united the people
to achieve a soverign country (first time in the history).
 
FYI, the racial epithet "not being a local Bangalee" is obnoxious
and shameful !!!!!
 
Thanks for your patience ...
 
Syed Aslam
 
 
Hazaaar Bochorer Sorbo Shreshto Bangalee  -----------
 
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Faruque Alamgir <faruquealamgir@gmail.com> wrote:
Friends

Sheikh Hasina during her first term as Prime Minister claimed that her fore fathers came on Tiger's Back from Iraq to preach Islam !!!! The news along with the picture of the family tree linking with Hazrat Ali(RA) came out daily Inqilab.
So, if this is true than the second question below that by not being a local Bangalee how come he become the Hazaaar Bochorer Sorbo Shreshto Bangalee ??? We are really confused that how an immigrant be turned native and be the best ????????

Faruque Alamgir

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@hotmail.com> wrote:
 

 
Mr. Sayeed Aslam
Not answered my question. How Muzib can give order an unarmed nations to fight with a modern army of pakistan who has plain , tanks, rifles, machine gun I do not understand man? kindly be specific.
 
How a sheikh is Sharbo Kaler Shorbo Shresto Banglai also not understandable whos blood at all not from Bangladesh
 


To: khabor@yahoogroups.com; notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com
From: Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:19:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [KHABOR] AMI JODI HUKUM DEBAR NA PARI ----------- !!!!!

 
Mr. Mohammed Ramjan
 
 
You have reasons to be ANGRY !!!!!
 
You seem to be very sorry that your  "united pakistan " has been broken ?
Is that the reason that Jamaate Islami is  keeping "under ground relation with Pakistan
from 1971 ? Does Armed Al-Bodor bahini (Jammat's armed gestapo wing) still exist
to compliment your " modern army of pakistan". (perhaps as an underground network)?
 
You say "We are not convienced ......". Who are these "We" ?? Does it include
your Pakistani buddies (ISI and Military Inc....of Pakistan)......???
 
Again, what's so good about your "Muslim Pakistan" ????? .....Even today ???
 
Mr. Ramjan, you said :"fight with LATI against bullet ..."  
 
FYI, it is not bullet ....it is the unity of the people and the LATI symbolized the unity
of the unity and determination of the masses that brought that ultimate  VICTORY
of people of Bangladesh against the occupation army - the modern army of pakistan.
 
[ Sheikh Mujib's bold & uncompromising leadership was the main driving force behind
unity of the maases of Bangladesh in 1971 against your the army of your "Muslim Pakistan" ... ]
 
Shuno Ekti Mujiborer Theke :
 
 
Syed Aslam
 
PS:
What's your definition of "pure bengali" ...read the history of our land from the
pre-historic days and find out, if your ideas are not dellusional ????
 
  
2011/3/29 Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@hotmail.com>
 

We are not convienced, that means we have to fight with LATI against bullet - a modern army of pakistan? Sorry all are nonsence. Was the matter that sheikh Muzibur Rahaman had been under ground relation with India from 1947 ? to destroy anti Indian power Muslim Pakistan  and he was an enemy of united pakistan serving Indian agenda ?
 
Sheikh Muzib himself was not a pure bengali, why ? because all the Sheikh, Sayeed, Moghul & Patan are migrated people in Bengali Land so he can not be sharbo Kaler Sharbo shresto Bangali, sorry.
 


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From: manik195709@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:11:12 -0700
Subject: [KHABOR] AMI JODI HUKUM DEBAR NA PARI ----------- !!!!!


আমি যদি হুকুম দেবার না পারি -----
সর্বকালের সর্বশ্রেষ্ঠ বাঙালি জাতির জনক বঙ্গবন্ধুর ৭ মার্চের কাব্বিক ভাষণের পংতিমালা :
"আমি যদি হুকুম দেবার না পারি , তোমদের যার যা কিছু আছে তাই দিয়ে শত্রুর মোকাবিলা 
কর "- এই অমোঘ বাণীর পরে ও  কি  কারো অপেক্ষা করতে হবে  স্বাধীনতার ঘোষণার জন্য !!!
স্বাধীনতার শত্রু এবং আওয়ামী বিরোধীরা বলে বেড়াচ্ছে যে বঙ্গবন্ধু ৭ মার্চ যুদ্ধ ঘোষণা না করে
পাকিস্তানের প্রধানমন্ত্রী হবার জন্য ইয়াহিয়ার সাথে   দেন-দরবার করছিলেন ৷ বঙ্গবন্ধু বাঙালির মুক্তিসনদ
৬ দফার পূর্ণ বাস্তবায়নের জন্য ইয়াহিয়ার সাথে দর-কষাকষি করছিলেন ---- ৬ দফার পুর্ণবাস্তবায়ন মানেই
ছিল "রক্তপাতহীন স্বাধীনতা অর্জন "! আর আলোচনা না করে হুট করে স্বাধীনতা এবং যুদ্ধ ঘোষণা করলে
বঙ্গবন্ধু দেশদ্রোহী হিসাবে সারা বিশ্বে পরিচিতি পেতেন আর আমাদের স্বাধীনতার স্বপ্নও  অংকুরেই বিনষ্ট হত !
একদিকে ছিল আলোচনা আর অন্য দিকে ছিল যুদ্ধের প্রস্তুতি -- এই দুইয়ের সমন্নয় এত মজবুত ছিল বলেই
আমরা মাত্র নয় মাসে পাকিস্তানি দখলদার বাহিনীকে পরাভূত করে বিজয় ছিনিয়ে এনেছিলাম !
জয় বাংলা ,
জয় বঙ্গবন্ধু ,
 
৷: মুহাম্মদ আলী মানিক
জর্জিয়া আওয়ামী লিগ




________________________________
From: Faruque Alamgir <faruquealamgir@gmail.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com; wideminds <WideMinds@yahoogroups.com>; dahuk
<dahuk@yahoogroups.com>; Dr. Abid Bahar <abidbahar@yahoo.com>; delwar
<delwar98@hotmail.com>; notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com; mohiuddin@netzero.net;
Nayan Khan <udarakash08@yahoo.com>; Sonar Bangladesh
<sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; serajurrahman@btinternet.com; Amra Bangladesi
<amra-bangladesi@yahoogroups.com>; Bangla Zindabad
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Cc: maxx ombba <maqsudo@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 6:39:26 AM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] mujib

 
 Friends


THE HISTORY OF BANGLADESH IS INCOMPLETE N DISTORTED IF THE PATRIOTIC ROLE
OF ZIAUR RAHMAN IS NOT GLORIFIED AS OF THE ROLE OF SHEIKH MUJIBUR RAHMAN AS PER
INDIVIDUAL ROLE PERFORMED FOR THE BIRTH OF BANGLADESH.


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:43 AM, maxx ombba <maqsudo@hotmail.com> wrote:

 
>AL thugs are trying to re-write history/
>
>
>If Sk. Mujib had declared independence on 7th. March, how he was in a meeting on
>22 March, 1971...as
>a leader of " EAST PAKISTAN ".
>
>
>AL leaders did not have enough education, wisdom, efficiency to understand that
>Pakistani
>govt. was importing more army + arms, while conducting bottom-less meetings!!!
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Don't trust army, Mujib told Bhutto
>
>
>On the morning of March 22, 1971, Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman resumed his
>dialogue with President Yahya Khan. At the same time, the Awami League team was
>busy negotiating the wording of the proposed proclamation with the President's
>advisers. 
>
>
>
>On arriving at the President's House, Mujib found Bhutto there. As the Bangalee
>leader would later say, he pulled the PPP chairman aside and on to the verandah
>in order not to have their conversation overheard or bugged. 
>
>
>Bhutto would later corroborate Mujib's statement and would go on to say that at
>a certain point both leaders were taken to see General Yahya Khan. Once they
>were together, all three men exchanged polite greetings.
>
>
>http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=178681







Mr. Mohammed Ramjan
 
 
You have reasons to be ANGRY !!!!!
 
You seem to be very sorry that your  "united pakistan " has been broken ?
Is that the reason that Jamaate Islami is  keeping "under ground relation with Pakistan
from 1971 ? Does Armed Al-Bodor bahini (Jammat's armed gestapo wing) still exist
to compliment your " modern army of pakistan". (perhaps as underground network)?
 
You say "We are not convienced ......". Who are these "We" ?? Does it include
yourPakistani buddies (ISI and Military Inc....of Pakistan)......???
 
Again, what's so good about your "Muslim Pakistan" ????? .....Even today ???
 
Mr. Ramjan, you said :"fight with LATI against bullet ..."  
 
FYI, it is not bullet ....it is the unity of the people and the LATI symbolized the unity
of the unity and determination of the masses that brought that ultimate  VICTORY
of people of Bangladesh against the occupation army - the modern army of pakistan.
 
[ Sheikh Mujib's bold & uncompromising leadership was the main driving force behind
unity of the maases of Bangladesh in 1971 against your the army of your "Muslim Pakistan" ... ]
 
Shuno Ekti Mujiborer Theke :
 
 
Syed Aslam
 
 
 
 
2011/3/29 Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@hotmail.com>
 
We are not convienced, that means we have to fight with LATI against bullet - a modern army of pakistan? Sorry all are nonsence. Was the matter that sheikh Muzibur Rahaman had been under ground relation with India from 1947 ? to destroy anti Indian power Muslim Pakistan  and he was an enemy of united pakistan serving Indian agenda ?
 
Sheikh Muzib himself was not a pure bengali, why ? because all the Sheikh, Sayeed, Moghul & Patan are migrated people in Bengali Land so he can not be sharbo Kaler Sharbo shresto Bangali, sorry.
 

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CC: maqsudo@hotmail.com; khabor@yahoogroups.com; alapon@yahoogroups.com
From: manik195709@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:11:12 -0700
Subject: [KHABOR] AMI JODI HUKUM DEBAR NA PARI ----------- !!!!!


আমি যদি হুকুম দেবার না পারি -----
সর্বকালের সর্বশ্রেষ্ঠ বাঙালি জাতির জনক বঙ্গবন্ধুর ৭ মার্চের কাব্বিক ভাষণের পংতিমালা :
"আমি যদি হুকুম দেবার না পারি , তোমদের যার যা কিছু আছে তাই দিয়ে শত্রুর মোকাবিলা 
কর "- এই অমোঘ বাণীর পরে ও  কি  কারো অপেক্ষা করতে হবে  স্বাধীনতার ঘোষণার জন্য !!!
স্বাধীনতার শত্রু এবং আওয়ামী বিরোধীরা বলে বেড়াচ্ছে যে বঙ্গবন্ধু ৭ মার্চ যুদ্ধ ঘোষণা না করে
পাকিস্তানের প্রধানমন্ত্রী হবার জন্য ইয়াহিয়ার সাথে   দেন-দরবার করছিলেন ৷ বঙ্গবন্ধু বাঙালির মুক্তিসনদ
৬ দফার পূর্ণ বাস্তবায়নের জন্য ইয়াহিয়ার সাথে দর-কষাকষি করছিলেন ---- ৬ দফার পুর্ণবাস্তবায়ন মানেই
ছিল "রক্তপাতহীন স্বাধীনতা অর্জন "! আর আলোচনা না করে হুট করে স্বাধীনতা এবং যুদ্ধ ঘোষণা করলে
বঙ্গবন্ধু দেশদ্রোহী হিসাবে সারা বিশ্বে পরিচিতি পেতেন আর আমাদের স্বাধীনতার স্বপ্নও  অংকুরেই বিনষ্ট হত !
একদিকে ছিল আলোচনা আর অন্য দিকে ছিল যুদ্ধের প্রস্তুতি -- এই দুইয়ের সমন্নয় এত মজবুত ছিল বলেই
আমরা মাত্র নয় মাসে পাকিস্তানি দখলদার বাহিনীকে পরাভূত করে বিজয় ছিনিয়ে এনেছিলাম !
জয় বাংলা ,
জয় বঙ্গবন্ধু ,
 
৷: মুহাম্মদ আলী মানিক
জর্জিয়া আওয়ামী লিগ




________________________________
From: Faruque Alamgir <faruquealamgir@gmail.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com; wideminds <WideMinds@yahoogroups.com>; dahuk
<dahuk@yahoogroups.com>; Dr. Abid Bahar <abidbahar@yahoo.com>; delwar
<delwar98@hotmail.com>; notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com; mohiuddin@netzero.net;
Nayan Khan <udarakash08@yahoo.com>; Sonar Bangladesh
<sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; serajurrahman@btinternet.com; Amra Bangladesi
<amra-bangladesi@yahoogroups.com>; Bangla Zindabad
<Bangladesh-Zindabad@yahoogroups.com>; Md. Aminul Islam
<aminul_islam_raj@yahoo.com>; amin chaudhury <amin_chaudhury@yahoo.com>; alapon
alapon <alapon@yahoogroups.com>; Mo Assghar <moassghar@yahoo.com>
Cc: maxx ombba <maqsudo@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 6:39:26 AM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] mujib

 
 Friends


THE HISTORY OF BANGLADESH IS INCOMPLETE N DISTORTED IF THE PATRIOTIC ROLE
OF ZIAUR RAHMAN IS NOT GLORIFIED AS OF THE ROLE OF SHEIKH MUJIBUR RAHMAN AS PER
INDIVIDUAL ROLE PERFORMED FOR THE BIRTH OF BANGLADESH.


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:43 AM, maxx ombba <maqsudo@hotmail.com> wrote:

 
>AL thugs are trying to re-write history/
>
>
>If Sk. Mujib had declared independence on 7th. March, how he was in a meeting on
>22 March, 1971...as
>a leader of " EAST PAKISTAN ".
>
>
>AL leaders did not have enough education, wisdom, efficiency to understand that
>Pakistani
>govt. was importing more army + arms, while conducting bottom-less meetings!!!
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Don't trust army, Mujib told Bhutto
>
>
>On the morning of March 22, 1971, Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman resumed his
>dialogue with President Yahya Khan. At the same time, the Awami League team was
>busy negotiating the wording of the proposed proclamation with the President's
>advisers. 
>
>
>
>On arriving at the President's House, Mujib found Bhutto there. As the Bangalee
>leader would later say, he pulled the PPP chairman aside and on to the verandah
>in order not to have their conversation overheard or bugged. 
>
>
>Bhutto would later corroborate Mujib's statement and would go on to say that at
>a certain point both leaders were taken to see General Yahya Khan. Once they
>were together, all three men exchanged polite greetings.
>
>
>http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=178681










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Dr. Yunus's Hilary Polli episode .......:
Links:
 
 
 
ড. ইউনূসের লাভ হলেও 'হিলারিপল্লীর' দুঃখ ঘোচেনি
নয়ন খন্দকার, কালীগঞ্জ (ঝিনাইদহ)

ঝিনাইদহের কালীগঞ্জের হিলারিপল্লী নামে খ্যাত ঋষিপল্লীর বাসিন্দারা ভালো নেই। সাবেক মার্কিন ফার্স্ট লেডি হিলারি ক্লিনটনকে এই পল্লীর বাসিন্দাদের দেখিয়ে লাভবান হয়েছেন ড. ইউনূস ও তার প্রতিষ্ঠান গ্রামীণ ব্যাংক। কিন্তু হিলারিপল্লীর দুঃখ ঘোচেনি। ১৯৯৫ সালের ৩ এপ্রিল গ্রামীণ ব্যাংকের চেয়ারম্যান ড. ইউনূস সাবেক এই ফার্স্ট লেডিকে কালীগঞ্জের বারোবাজারের ঋষিপল্লীতে নিয়ে আসেন। সেখানে ১০০ পরিবারের ৫০০ লোকজন বসবাস করেন। সেদিন এলাকার উন্নয়নসহ ঋষিপল্লীর বাসিন্দাদের ভাগ্যের পরিবর্তনের জন্য অনেক কথা বলেছিলেন ড. মহাম্মদ ইউনূস। কিন্তু গ্রামীণ ব্যাংকের লোন নিয়ে অনেক পরিবার এখন জর্জরিত। এলাকার উন্নয়ন তো দূরের কথা ঋষিপল্লীর বাসিন্দাদের ভাগ্যের কোনো পরিবর্তন ঘটেনি। ঋষিপল্লীতে প্রবেশ করার তেমন কোনো রাস্তা হয়নি। দীর্ঘ প্রায় ১৬ বছরেও বিদ্যুৎ পেঁৗছায়নি এই পল্লীতে।

গ্রামীণ ব্যাংক থেকে লোন নিয়ে সমষ্টিগতভাবে কোনো পরিবর্তন হয়নি। এখানকার অধিবাসীরা আজও জুতা সেলাই, বাঁশ, বেতের কাজ, চামড়া ক্রয়, সেলুনের কাজ করে জীবিকা নির্বাহ করে। বারোবাজারের মশেহাটি, ফুলবাড়ি ও বাদেডিহী ৩ গ্রাম নিয়ে ঋষিপল্লী গঠিত। এ পল্লীর বাসিন্দা নীলকান্ত দাস দুঃখ করে জানান, আমাদের দেখিয়ে অনেক এনজিও কোটি কোটি টাকা উপার্জন করেছে। কিন্তু আমাদের ভাগ্যের পরিবর্তন হয়নি। আরেক বাসিন্দা স্বরজিৎ দাস সাংবাদিকদের সঙ্গে কথা বলতেই চান না। তিনি বলেন, লিখে কি হবে? আমাদের তো কোনো পরিবর্তন নেই। ঝড়ে উড়ে গেছে টিনের চাল। কি আছে আমাদের এখানে। এই ঋষিপল্লীর অধিকাংশ বাসিন্দা গ্রামীণ ব্যাংক থেকে লোন নিয়েছেন। অনেকে চড়া সুদে নেওয়া এই লোন পরিশোধ করতে না পেরে চট্টগ্রামসহ দেশের বিভিন্ন স্থানে পালিয়ে গেছেন। সেখান থেকে আয় রোজগার করে তাদের আবার ঋণের টাকা সুদসহ পরিশোধ করতে হয়েছে। এমনটি করেছেন ঋষিপল্লীর জুতা সেলাইকারী আনন্দ দাস। সে ঋণ পরিশোধ করতে না পেরে টিটাগাং শহরে পালিয়ে গেছে বলে জানান অনেকে।

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[chottala.com] Hazaaar Bochorer Sorbo Shreshto Bangalee ----------- !!!!!



Mr Faruque Alamgir
No wonder, now you "are really confused that how an immigrant be
turned native and be the best"  !!!!!  Your comment is not an isolated event
and very consistent with your other motivated comments & previously
expressed attitudes !!! ......
 
As a Zindabadi-Antellectual, you must be aware of the fact that
the population of the delta and it's neighbouring lands are not a
"pure" homogenous ethno-racial entity ...... There are aryan, dravidian
and mongoloid races intermixed .... There are austro-asiatic tribes
as well.
Read more:
 
To make the long story short: Any individual or group, irrespective of
ethenic origin who has settled down in our deltaic plain [delta plain
at the confluence of the Ganges (Padma), Brahmaputra ( Jamuna),
and Meghna Rivers and their tributaries] and assimilated with our people
and adopted Bangla as his/her mother tongue through the historical
processes is a Bangalee.... [A melting pot -  heterogeneous
groups become more homogeneous through historical processes]
 
The "Hazaaar Bochorer Sorbo Shreshto Bangalee"   comes from the
standpoint of his contribution to the people of today's Bangladesh who
has thousand years of history and his leadership that united the people
to achieve a soverign country (first time in the history).
 
FYI, the racial epithet "not being a local Bangalee" is obnoxious
and shameful !!!!!
 
Thanks for your patience ...
 
Syed Aslam
 
 
Hazaaar Bochorer Sorbo Shreshto Bangalee  -----------
 
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Faruque Alamgir <faruquealamgir@gmail.com> wrote:
Friends

Sheikh Hasina during her first term as Prime Minister claimed that her fore fathers came on Tiger's Back from Iraq to preach Islam !!!! The news along with the picture of the family tree linking with Hazrat Ali(RA) came out daily Inqilab.
So, if this is true than the second question below that by not being a local Bangalee how come he become the Hazaaar Bochorer Sorbo Shreshto Bangalee ??? We are really confused that how an immigrant be turned native and be the best ????????

Faruque Alamgir

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@hotmail.com> wrote:
 

 
Mr. Sayeed Aslam
Not answered my question. How Muzib can give order an unarmed nations to fight with a modern army of pakistan who has plain , tanks, rifles, machine gun I do not understand man? kindly be specific.
 
How a sheikh is Sharbo Kaler Shorbo Shresto Banglai also not understandable whos blood at all not from Bangladesh
 


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From: Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:19:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [KHABOR] AMI JODI HUKUM DEBAR NA PARI ----------- !!!!!

 
Mr. Mohammed Ramjan
 
 
You have reasons to be ANGRY !!!!!
 
You seem to be very sorry that your  "united pakistan " has been broken ?
Is that the reason that Jamaate Islami is  keeping "under ground relation with Pakistan
from 1971 ? Does Armed Al-Bodor bahini (Jammat's armed gestapo wing) still exist
to compliment your " modern army of pakistan". (perhaps as an underground network)?
 
You say "We are not convienced ......". Who are these "We" ?? Does it include
your Pakistani buddies (ISI and Military Inc....of Pakistan)......???
 
Again, what's so good about your "Muslim Pakistan" ????? .....Even today ???
 
Mr. Ramjan, you said :"fight with LATI against bullet ..."  
 
FYI, it is not bullet ....it is the unity of the people and the LATI symbolized the unity
of the unity and determination of the masses that brought that ultimate  VICTORY
of people of Bangladesh against the occupation army - the modern army of pakistan.
 
[ Sheikh Mujib's bold & uncompromising leadership was the main driving force behind
unity of the maases of Bangladesh in 1971 against your the army of your "Muslim Pakistan" ... ]
 
Shuno Ekti Mujiborer Theke :
 
 
Syed Aslam
 
PS:
What's your definition of "pure bengali" ...read the history of our land from the
pre-historic days and find out, if your ideas are not dellusional ????
 
  
2011/3/29 Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@hotmail.com>
 

We are not convienced, that means we have to fight with LATI against bullet - a modern army of pakistan? Sorry all are nonsence. Was the matter that sheikh Muzibur Rahaman had been under ground relation with India from 1947 ? to destroy anti Indian power Muslim Pakistan  and he was an enemy of united pakistan serving Indian agenda ?
 
Sheikh Muzib himself was not a pure bengali, why ? because all the Sheikh, Sayeed, Moghul & Patan are migrated people in Bengali Land so he can not be sharbo Kaler Sharbo shresto Bangali, sorry.
 


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From: manik195709@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:11:12 -0700
Subject: [KHABOR] AMI JODI HUKUM DEBAR NA PARI ----------- !!!!!


আমি যদি হুকুম দেবার না পারি -----
সর্বকালের সর্বশ্রেষ্ঠ বাঙালি জাতির জনক বঙ্গবন্ধুর ৭ মার্চের কাব্বিক ভাষণের পংতিমালা :
"আমি যদি হুকুম দেবার না পারি , তোমদের যার যা কিছু আছে তাই দিয়ে শত্রুর মোকাবিলা 
কর "- এই অমোঘ বাণীর পরে ও  কি  কারো অপেক্ষা করতে হবে  স্বাধীনতার ঘোষণার জন্য !!!
স্বাধীনতার শত্রু এবং আওয়ামী বিরোধীরা বলে বেড়াচ্ছে যে বঙ্গবন্ধু ৭ মার্চ যুদ্ধ ঘোষণা না করে
পাকিস্তানের প্রধানমন্ত্রী হবার জন্য ইয়াহিয়ার সাথে   দেন-দরবার করছিলেন ৷ বঙ্গবন্ধু বাঙালির মুক্তিসনদ
৬ দফার পূর্ণ বাস্তবায়নের জন্য ইয়াহিয়ার সাথে দর-কষাকষি করছিলেন ---- ৬ দফার পুর্ণবাস্তবায়ন মানেই
ছিল "রক্তপাতহীন স্বাধীনতা অর্জন "! আর আলোচনা না করে হুট করে স্বাধীনতা এবং যুদ্ধ ঘোষণা করলে
বঙ্গবন্ধু দেশদ্রোহী হিসাবে সারা বিশ্বে পরিচিতি পেতেন আর আমাদের স্বাধীনতার স্বপ্নও  অংকুরেই বিনষ্ট হত !
একদিকে ছিল আলোচনা আর অন্য দিকে ছিল যুদ্ধের প্রস্তুতি -- এই দুইয়ের সমন্নয় এত মজবুত ছিল বলেই
আমরা মাত্র নয় মাসে পাকিস্তানি দখলদার বাহিনীকে পরাভূত করে বিজয় ছিনিয়ে এনেছিলাম !
জয় বাংলা ,
জয় বঙ্গবন্ধু ,
 
৷: মুহাম্মদ আলী মানিক
জর্জিয়া আওয়ামী লিগ




________________________________
From: Faruque Alamgir <faruquealamgir@gmail.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com; wideminds <WideMinds@yahoogroups.com>; dahuk
<dahuk@yahoogroups.com>; Dr. Abid Bahar <abidbahar@yahoo.com>; delwar
<delwar98@hotmail.com>; notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com; mohiuddin@netzero.net;
Nayan Khan <udarakash08@yahoo.com>; Sonar Bangladesh
<sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; serajurrahman@btinternet.com; Amra Bangladesi
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Cc: maxx ombba <maqsudo@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 6:39:26 AM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] mujib

 
 Friends


THE HISTORY OF BANGLADESH IS INCOMPLETE N DISTORTED IF THE PATRIOTIC ROLE
OF ZIAUR RAHMAN IS NOT GLORIFIED AS OF THE ROLE OF SHEIKH MUJIBUR RAHMAN AS PER
INDIVIDUAL ROLE PERFORMED FOR THE BIRTH OF BANGLADESH.


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:43 AM, maxx ombba <maqsudo@hotmail.com> wrote:

 
>AL thugs are trying to re-write history/
>
>
>If Sk. Mujib had declared independence on 7th. March, how he was in a meeting on
>22 March, 1971...as
>a leader of " EAST PAKISTAN ".
>
>
>AL leaders did not have enough education, wisdom, efficiency to understand that
>Pakistani
>govt. was importing more army + arms, while conducting bottom-less meetings!!!
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Don't trust army, Mujib told Bhutto
>
>
>On the morning of March 22, 1971, Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman resumed his
>dialogue with President Yahya Khan. At the same time, the Awami League team was
>busy negotiating the wording of the proposed proclamation with the President's
>advisers. 
>
>
>
>On arriving at the President's House, Mujib found Bhutto there. As the Bangalee
>leader would later say, he pulled the PPP chairman aside and on to the verandah
>in order not to have their conversation overheard or bugged. 
>
>
>Bhutto would later corroborate Mujib's statement and would go on to say that at
>a certain point both leaders were taken to see General Yahya Khan. Once they
>were together, all three men exchanged polite greetings.
>
>
>http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=178681







Mr. Mohammed Ramjan
 
 
You have reasons to be ANGRY !!!!!
 
You seem to be very sorry that your  "united pakistan " has been broken ?
Is that the reason that Jamaate Islami is  keeping "under ground relation with Pakistan
from 1971 ? Does Armed Al-Bodor bahini (Jammat's armed gestapo wing) still exist
to compliment your " modern army of pakistan". (perhaps as underground network)?
 
You say "We are not convienced ......". Who are these "We" ?? Does it include
yourPakistani buddies (ISI and Military Inc....of Pakistan)......???
 
Again, what's so good about your "Muslim Pakistan" ????? .....Even today ???
 
Mr. Ramjan, you said :"fight with LATI against bullet ..."  
 
FYI, it is not bullet ....it is the unity of the people and the LATI symbolized the unity
of the unity and determination of the masses that brought that ultimate  VICTORY
of people of Bangladesh against the occupation army - the modern army of pakistan.
 
[ Sheikh Mujib's bold & uncompromising leadership was the main driving force behind
unity of the maases of Bangladesh in 1971 against your the army of your "Muslim Pakistan" ... ]
 
Shuno Ekti Mujiborer Theke :
 
 
Syed Aslam
 
 
 
 
2011/3/29 Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@hotmail.com>
 
We are not convienced, that means we have to fight with LATI against bullet - a modern army of pakistan? Sorry all are nonsence. Was the matter that sheikh Muzibur Rahaman had been under ground relation with India from 1947 ? to destroy anti Indian power Muslim Pakistan  and he was an enemy of united pakistan serving Indian agenda ?
 
Sheikh Muzib himself was not a pure bengali, why ? because all the Sheikh, Sayeed, Moghul & Patan are migrated people in Bengali Land so he can not be sharbo Kaler Sharbo shresto Bangali, sorry.
 

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From: manik195709@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:11:12 -0700
Subject: [KHABOR] AMI JODI HUKUM DEBAR NA PARI ----------- !!!!!


আমি যদি হুকুম দেবার না পারি -----
সর্বকালের সর্বশ্রেষ্ঠ বাঙালি জাতির জনক বঙ্গবন্ধুর ৭ মার্চের কাব্বিক ভাষণের পংতিমালা :
"আমি যদি হুকুম দেবার না পারি , তোমদের যার যা কিছু আছে তাই দিয়ে শত্রুর মোকাবিলা 
কর "- এই অমোঘ বাণীর পরে ও  কি  কারো অপেক্ষা করতে হবে  স্বাধীনতার ঘোষণার জন্য !!!
স্বাধীনতার শত্রু এবং আওয়ামী বিরোধীরা বলে বেড়াচ্ছে যে বঙ্গবন্ধু ৭ মার্চ যুদ্ধ ঘোষণা না করে
পাকিস্তানের প্রধানমন্ত্রী হবার জন্য ইয়াহিয়ার সাথে   দেন-দরবার করছিলেন ৷ বঙ্গবন্ধু বাঙালির মুক্তিসনদ
৬ দফার পূর্ণ বাস্তবায়নের জন্য ইয়াহিয়ার সাথে দর-কষাকষি করছিলেন ---- ৬ দফার পুর্ণবাস্তবায়ন মানেই
ছিল "রক্তপাতহীন স্বাধীনতা অর্জন "! আর আলোচনা না করে হুট করে স্বাধীনতা এবং যুদ্ধ ঘোষণা করলে
বঙ্গবন্ধু দেশদ্রোহী হিসাবে সারা বিশ্বে পরিচিতি পেতেন আর আমাদের স্বাধীনতার স্বপ্নও  অংকুরেই বিনষ্ট হত !
একদিকে ছিল আলোচনা আর অন্য দিকে ছিল যুদ্ধের প্রস্তুতি -- এই দুইয়ের সমন্নয় এত মজবুত ছিল বলেই
আমরা মাত্র নয় মাসে পাকিস্তানি দখলদার বাহিনীকে পরাভূত করে বিজয় ছিনিয়ে এনেছিলাম !
জয় বাংলা ,
জয় বঙ্গবন্ধু ,
 
৷: মুহাম্মদ আলী মানিক
জর্জিয়া আওয়ামী লিগ




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<dahuk@yahoogroups.com>; Dr. Abid Bahar <abidbahar@yahoo.com>; delwar
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Nayan Khan <udarakash08@yahoo.com>; Sonar Bangladesh
<sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; serajurrahman@btinternet.com; Amra Bangladesi
<amra-bangladesi@yahoogroups.com>; Bangla Zindabad
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alapon <alapon@yahoogroups.com>; Mo Assghar <moassghar@yahoo.com>
Cc: maxx ombba <maqsudo@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 6:39:26 AM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] mujib

 
 Friends


THE HISTORY OF BANGLADESH IS INCOMPLETE N DISTORTED IF THE PATRIOTIC ROLE
OF ZIAUR RAHMAN IS NOT GLORIFIED AS OF THE ROLE OF SHEIKH MUJIBUR RAHMAN AS PER
INDIVIDUAL ROLE PERFORMED FOR THE BIRTH OF BANGLADESH.


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:43 AM, maxx ombba <maqsudo@hotmail.com> wrote:

 
>AL thugs are trying to re-write history/
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>If Sk. Mujib had declared independence on 7th. March, how he was in a meeting on
>22 March, 1971...as
>a leader of " EAST PAKISTAN ".
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>AL leaders did not have enough education, wisdom, efficiency to understand that
>Pakistani
>govt. was importing more army + arms, while conducting bottom-less meetings!!!
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>Don't trust army, Mujib told Bhutto
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>On the morning of March 22, 1971, Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman resumed his
>dialogue with President Yahya Khan. At the same time, the Awami League team was
>busy negotiating the wording of the proposed proclamation with the President's
>advisers. 
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>On arriving at the President's House, Mujib found Bhutto there. As the Bangalee
>leader would later say, he pulled the PPP chairman aside and on to the verandah
>in order not to have their conversation overheard or bugged. 
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>Bhutto would later corroborate Mujib's statement and would go on to say that at
>a certain point both leaders were taken to see General Yahya Khan. Once they
>were together, all three men exchanged polite greetings.
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>http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=178681









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[chottala.com] 4 days Training Workshop on Environmental Awareness & development held at Chittagong



4 days Training Workshop on Environmental Awareness & development held at Chittagong
Demanding Right Participation of NGO representative at the Climate Change Fund and local initiatives for Environment protection

Participants and gust of training workshop
Due to lack of right participation of real NGO representative in the Government initiated Climate Change trust fund management many irregularities held to select NGOs, many business organizations, research firms, individual persons were selected as NGO to implementing the Climate change trust funded project, which is weigh down the aims of the trust fund and it will also hamper the image of the Government initiatives in the climate change issues. Speakers demand to develop separate procurement policy for NGOs and social sector. These were stated by the speakers of the training session on Environmental Awareness and Development organized by ISDE Bangladesh and CAMPE held on 27-30 march at CSDF auditorium, Chittagong.

S M Nazer Hossain, Central EC Member, ADAB & Executive Director of ISDE Bangladesh was presided over the inaugural session while Executive Director, CRCD Kazi Iqbal Bahar Sabery, Mahfuzul Hoque Chowdhury, Green Bangladesh, Shakiba Khatun, CAMPE, Shamima Ara Koli, CAMPE was special guest.

Alhaj Raifiq Ahmed Ex Lion Governor & CEO MAMATA is addressing at the closing session

losing session was held at 30th march while ex lion Governor & CEO MAMATA Alhaj Rafique Ahmed was chief guest, Md Abu Jaher, CC ADAB Chittagong, Shakiba Khatun, CAMPE, Shamima Ara Koli, CAMPE was special guest, Abul Kalam Azad, BARANI, Jahurul Isma Ishika Foundation and women leaders Sayma Hoque & Dipika Barua was also take part the discussion.


S M Nazer Hossain, Executive Director ISDE Bangaldesh is
addressing at the closing session
 Local and international huge fund was spent to environment development and climate change issues which were uses to experimental basis to conduct study by the consultant groups, business firms and international experts ultimate users community people have no result from it. Finally NGOs become blame and liable to the nation. Speakers demanding making linkages to research and implementation at the field level, otherwise research paper will block at the laboratory test. It also demands to involve the local NGO, CBO, voluntary initiatives and other pressure groups who acting to protect natural environment development at locality. They also anxiously said due at lack of separate procurement policy for NGO and social sector, NGOs treated as contractor or business firms under bidding procedure. Finally NGOs, business firm, individual comes from Khulna-Barishal to Chittagong to implement projects and end the projects there is no impacts from the projects. Peoples accused the NGOs, not the process which is not correct.

Mahfujul Hoque Chowdhury, Chairman Green Bangladesh
is addressing at the ingural session

Speakers demands to develop separate procurement policy for NGO and social sector. Speakers also ask the civil society to raise voice to demanding climate justice, demands the losses to recover the rural livelihood from the developed nations and they have to compensate the affected countries. Otherwise affected nations will boycott the products from developed nations. They also urge the community people to behave environment friendly to the nature and responsive the nature. It also demands create mass awareness on climate change and environmental issues.

Sakiba Khatun Deputy Programme Manager CAMPE addressing at closing session
 The 4 days training contends was basic ideas on environment, air and sound pollution, contaminated water, soil erosion regenerative agriculture, climate change and natural disaster, health and environment, gender and environment, waste management, local culture and practice, environmental laws and identifies the problems on climate change and environment at greater Chittagong. Resources person was Prof. Abdul Hoque, Ex-chairman of Geography department of Chittagong University, Dr. Khaled Misbahuzzaman, Institute of Environmental science and forestry, University of Chittagong, M Nasirul Hoque, City Editor Daily Suprobhat Bangladesh, Adavoacte Akhater Kabir Chowdhury, Convener TIB-Citizen Right Committee Chittagong, Sakiba Khatun, Deputy Progarmme Manager, CAME.

Shamim Ara Koli Programme Officer,
CAMPE addressing at the Closing session

Kazi Iqbal Bahar Sabery Executive Director,
CRCD addreesing at inagural session

Amongst others 30 participants from NGO workers, teachers, women leaders, representative from fishing community, student leaders were participated the training workshop.

ISDE Bangladesh

Head Office: House # 329 Road # 13 Block-B Chandgaon R/A, Chittagong-4212, Bangladesh

Tel: +88-031-2572161(r), 0171-3110054, 01190715720, 01190726358,
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ISDE-Bangladesh is a Bangladesh based Non-Governmental, Voluntary, Social Development Organization registered under The Foreign Donation (voluntary activities) regulation ordinance 1978 & Society Registration Act XXI of 1860 is devoted to reduction of poverty, hunger & effects of climate change, promotion of women & girls children's human rights, political empowerment of women, ethnic minorities and stop violence against & discrimination of women in Bangladesh since 1992



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Wednesday, March 30, 2011

Re: [chottala.com] Re: To our respected Teachers!



Thanks for your comments Dear Helal. I appreciate your views. Ms. Sarmila Bose has already been invited by journalist Haroon Habib. Let us see if she ever visits Bangladesh. Bangladesh will never be a Failed State or a Collapsed State. We have our problems and who does not? We manage to solve it and survive and go forward. I am not sure if you had the chance of reading my feature in the Daily Sun's Independence Day Supplement.  The problem with us we always believe whatever the West says as sacrosanct and do not have much faith, belief and trust on our  own self. Immediately after the occupation of Iraq a group of mid level diplomats from a powerful West country came to my previous workplace to give a seminar on the rebuilding of Iraq. That was one of their PR job they thought they should do in this part of the world. Unfortunately I was invited to Chair  the session.Once they spoke for about an hour I just talked for ten minutes and reminded them about the CIA engineered coup in Iran 1953 where the elected government of Dr. Mossadegh was toppled to serve the oil interest of Anglo-Iranian Oil Company and the Shah of Iran. These diplomats had no clue of the incident. Over coffee I politely requested them to read a book by one of their own, Stephen Kinzer (then a NY Times Correspondent), `All the Shah's Men.' In return they invited me to lunch later, which for some reasons I could to avail. Yes, we will look forward, but not forgetting the past. The past is like a rear view mirror. You need it to go forward.

Warm wishes.

May God Bless You.

Mannan

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dear Mannan Sir:

 

Asslamualaikum. I read your article on Prothom Alo regarding Sharmila Bashu. I understand your sentiment regarding her as she is claiming something you think is wrong. I also grossly disagree with her with some of her assumptions regarding what happened in 1971. I will buy her book and read it to see if the entire book is misleading or not.

 

The only thing I respectfully disagree with you is that Bangladesh shouldn't banned her coming to visit Bangladesh. Instead, people like you should invite her and make her understand what really happened to Bangladesh 1971 with your well documented study against her book. That's the civic way to deal with a misinformed writer like her.

 

Sir, I also read your mail regarding my response. It is understood that you are bit biased towards AL as most of us are bit biased to certain political party and that is quite acceptable. And it is also understood that some of us can not associated with a party which has much ideological differences for his/her point of view.

 

Sir, what I do not understand is that when people like your intellect can not realize international politics towards Bangladesh as some quarter of the world are trying to portray Bangladesh as a soon to be failure state. I hope you realize, if Bangladesh ever becomes a failed state, it won't be East Pakistan again. I also hope you further realize  the alternative scenario as well.

 

Not to mention, if we fail, we won't be able to find any pro or anti Bangladeshi forces to blame, as there will be no such thing call Bangladesh to begin with.

 

Sir, before it is tool late, pls bring to an end being divisive and lead us towards unity and prosperity. As a student, I urge you to teach us love and respect instead of revenge and hatred. We desperately, need guidance from you and people like you to make Bangladesh a successful country.

 

Thank you.

Helal

--- On Mon, 3/28/11, Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Re: To our respected Teachers!
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 11:45 PM

 
Thanks to all of you who discussed my column published in the Daily Prothom Alo in their own way. I always respect the opinion of others, but also think it should be as objective and based on facts as far as  possible. I agree that it is the responsibility of the new generation to write history. We created it you write it. But history is different from fiction. That has to be clearly understood. We say 'write something that is readable, do something that is write-able.'  I plan to write an English Version of my column sometimes next month.

Regards and warm wishes to all. 

Have a nice day.

Mannan

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:57 AM, abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com> wrote:
 
No offence to Professor Abdul Mannan who wrote about Sharmila Bose
Abid Bahar
In the below I will talk about Professor Mannan's article published in the Prothon Alo. http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-03-27/news/141872
Overall it is a good article with good writing skill but he used very flawed methodology in understanding Sharmila Bose's works.  Previously, in my
short review about Bose, I wrote
"Indeed, Ms. Bose's book came out with numerous holes. This is especially when she praises the killers and the drunken Yahya and Niazi. But it was a good thing that she was allowed to speak about her findings even with biases; atleast now we know what are her biases. In this if we blindly followed Dr. Nurun Nabi we would all have become some fanatic"secular mullahs."
 
Having said the above, I want to add 'The surge of nationalism usually presents a morally ambivalent, and for this reason often fascinating, picture. "National awakening" and struggles for political independence are often both heroic and inhumanly cruel; the formation of a recognizably national state often responds to deep popular sentiment, but can and does sometimes bring in its wake inhuman consequences, including violent expulsion and "cleansing" of non-nationals, all the way to organized mass murder. The moral debate on nationalism reflects a deep moral tension between solidarity with oppressed national groups on the one hand and the repulsion people feel in the face of crimes perpetrated in the name of nationalism on the other." http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nationalism
 
Professor Mannan himself as a Bangladeshi and like many of us that suffered during the war  but bringing that personal dimention of popular sentiment in research which makes him strong in memory but weak in methodology. In his writing he shows his anger toward Bose by taking up his position in glorifying the AL nationalist conclusions. Bose finds the AL's exaggerated conclusions inconsistent with methodological errors. This makes Mannan angry. With the Bengali nationalist sentiment not the sentiment of a researcher to  Mannan Bose is bound to be wrong. In his such consideration he commits the falacy of begging the question. He denies Bose's"facts" and accepts everything  of the AL made history to be true by the accounts of such people as AL's Nurun Nabis nationalist stand.
This wouldn't draw anybody's attention if Professor Mannan was not the ex vice cencellor, which position carried a very high esteem among Bangladeshi people. But his devotion and blind onesided support to the AL makes him even one commentator assuming that he was not as much qualified for the job but was in that high position due to the AL nepotism. I am certain that this is not true but the professor's extreme bias toward the AL had this unfortunate fallout.
In the Prothom Alo article comments section  as expected Professor Mannan  was appreciated by the Bengali nationalists, but drew harsh criticism from one who commentator who understood what is truly good writing that uses sound methology which is missing in the professor's writing:. The comment in Bengali is as follows:
২০১১.০৩.২৭ ০২:৩২
শর্মিলা বসুর আলোচনাগুলোর সমালোচনা আরো ভালোভাবে করা উচিৎ। কিছু ব্যপারে মান্নান স্যারের মন্তব্য বেশ আপত্তিকর মনে হলো। ১৯৭১ সালে কারো চাক্ষুস অভিজ্ঞতা না থাকলে কি ইতিহাস বিষয়ে গবেষণা করা যাবে না? তাহলে তো আর তরুন প্রজন্মের কারো ১৯৭১ এর ইতিহাস নিয়ে কাজ করা বৃথা ! তাছাড়া শর্মিলা বসুর সম্ভ্রমহানি নিয়ে কোন ব্লগারের অভদ্র কমেন্টটা ওনার মত মানুষের রেফারেন্স হিসেবে টানাটা ঠিক হলো না। সবশেষে, একজন গবেষককে (যে মানের-ই হোক) বাংলাদেশে অবাঞ্চিত করার ঘোষণা দেবার উস্কানি দেয়াটাও ঠিক মনে হয়নি। একাডেমিক বিতর্ক ইতিহাসের নানা বিষয়ে থাকে, সেটা পালটা গবেষণা করার মাধ্যমেই জবাব দেয়া উচিৎ, কাউকে নিষিদ্ধ করার মাধ্যমে নয়। আশা করি এ নিয়ে বিতর্ক নতুন গবেষণায় বাংলাদেশীদের উদ্বুদ্ধ করবে।
http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-03-27/news/141872  No offence to the respected teacher, Professor Abdul Mannan who wrote about Sharmila Bose stepping out to extremism which is beyond the scope of research methology..
 
 
References
 
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:45 AM, dina khan <dina30_khan@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Respected Teahers are needed to be honest in speaking teaching and writing.
Respected Teachers are needed to be sincere in learnig and knowing the truth for making knowlege learning resouces for teaching the people to build nation.
Dishonest teachers are worse than Rajakars.


--- On Fri, 25/3/11, Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Re: To our respected Teachers!
> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Friday, 25 March, 2011, 8:57 AM

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> I never subscribed to JSD politics and was never a follower
> of AL politics blindly. I try to be objective as far as
> possible. May be I am a bit biased towards the politics of
> AL as I cannot be with any politics of BNP for obvious
> reasons.  I also have many critics in AL who thinks I
> should not speak some truths so bluntly they do not like.
> Now for the trial of Col. Taher. His deeds on 7th. November
> was not under trial but his trial was. The trial of Col.
> Taher was a miscarriage of justice and absolutely non
> transparent. I expect to write on this. Even the trial of
> killing of Zia was to some extent more transparent though
> many wrong people were tried (it included quite a few of my
> childhood friends). I never supported his deeds on 7th.
> November and I will say so.
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> Many wishes of our Independence day.
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> Mannan
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> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011
> at 10:03 AM, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com>
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> Thanks for your
> response towards my posting. In my 40 years of life I
> didn't see many Bangladeshis with good political
> consciousness. We are overly biased with our political
> ideology. No matter how educated we are, we simply can't
> go beyond our loyalty towards the preferred
> party/ideology.
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> With no offence to
> Manna sir and all the respected teacher's in these forums,
> in our student life, we observed how teachers (mostly who
> thought in the public universities in Bangladesh) are busy
> aligning themselves among Shada, Neel, Holud and Golapi
> panels. We also observed how the best student can't become
> a teacher if he/she doesn't get the blessing from those
> color coded panels. Contrary, how ordinary student become a
> teacher with the help of same color coded panels.
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> It is also worth
> to mention that it is our Sir's who polluted the student
> politics and used us (students) to become the leader of the
> above mentioned colored coded panels and the ultimate price
> is becoming VC. Now days, some of them do politics in the
> public university and teaches in the private ones.
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> Saying that, it is
> also acknowledged, there are still teachers' left who does
> genuinely teaching job. That's why we still have
> institution like BUET and IBA to name a few.
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> can't teacher be involved in politics! Of course they can.
> But they can't encourage students to be a part of it and
> should leave it out side the institution, at least to some
> extent.
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> Thanks
> again.
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> Helal
> Toronto,
> Canada.
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> PS: I request all
> the respected teacher's in these forums to not to take my
> writing personally. And I hope my writing is not towards
> them as they don't fall into the teacher's category I
> mentione above. As I said, there are many honorable
> teachers' in Bangladesh, who is keeping
> the teaching profession with minimal financial compensation.
> And some of them still help their student to become
> extraordinary human being. We still visited them and touched
> their feet out of outmost respect because they deserve it.
> Whenever I go home, I make sure to visit few of my teachers
> who taught me throughout my life to be a better human being.
> Not necessarily, to be the best student. One of them
> is Samar Kanti Chowdhury sir, who thought be from Grade 1
> to 6. I wish all the teacher's in Bangladesh is just like
> him.
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> Wed, 3/23/11, abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com>
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> From: abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Re: [KHABOR]
> Verdict of Col. Taher Case.
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> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com,
> abid.bahar@gmail.com,
> Ovimot@yahoogroups.com,
> faruquealamgir@gmail.com,
> farhadmazhar@hotmail.com,
> farid2002hossain@hotmail.com,
> notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com,
> modzaman@gmail.com
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> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 7:26 PM
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> Hasina Fooling People with the Rule of Law
> Abid Bahar
> Professor Mannan is a very enlightened person but at
> the same time I read him in his work that he is an overly
> enthuasistic pro AL person as well. He is an honorable
> person. I don't think I am qualified to say anything to
> increase his enlightenment about Bangladesh politics but I
> want to say one thing to help him understand about his
> enthuasism that with the AL appointed judges some of whom
> were vendals and one was a murder accused, the judgement
> about Taher who was the killer of many innocent army offices
> for implimenting his vision of a the then Chinese style
> sepoy army, Hasina's is clearly politically motivated.
> In this judgement there is nothing to celebrate unless you
> are a hardcore Awami Leaguer enthusiast.
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> Additionally, it says what is legal is not always
> moral. Example: If the fascist leader Sadam made laws, or
> Gaddafi or Mujib with their one party rule, made laws, in
> Mujib's case when the elected Mujib denying the
> people's mandate made laws to supress the opposition
> installed one party rule, killing the opposition with his
> High Court laws, or killing Siraj Sikdar without laws and
> boosting about it,  it was simply a betrayal with the
> people who voted him to power. In the end such leaders as
> was Saddam with his two children were killed by the invasion
> forces, Mujib with his two children were killed by
> Bangladesh army and another dictator Gadafi calling himself
> as a revolutionary stays in power for decades now killing
> his countryman with the same fascist rule of law and who
> knows what awaits for him as well.  
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> In Hasina's case keeping Mahmudur Rahman, the
> editor of a newspaper in jail by Hasina's court was
> legal but abusing power through courts was neither
> democratic nor moral. True, politicians and their
> enthuasiasts are fooling and ruling people with the excuse
> of rule of law- is a village headman style politics brought
> to the city to convince some already enlightened people
> fighting against dictators and fascist regimes worldwide.
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> Manna Sir:
> Assalamualaikum.
> Thanks for sharing your comment on High courts verdict on
> Taher killing.
> Sir,
> in the last few weeks there were many email circling around
> regarding this matter. I also posted a thread few days back.
> I would be honored to hear your feedback in regards of my
> below statement:
> "Assalamua'laikum.
> Ok, for the sake of argument, I accept your notion that
> Ziaur Rahman was a cold blooded murderer for killing Col
> Taher. Then, do you also accept that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
> was also a cold blooded murderer for killing Siraj Sikdar! I
> hope you must read or remember when Bongbondhu proclaimed,
> where is Siraj Sikdar after he was assassinated."
> I'm
> really looking fwd to have a knowledgeable discussion with
> you regarding the hypocrisy in our today's society when it
> comes to discussing Mujib/Zia, India/Pakistan, Tarek/Joy,
> and so on.
> Sir, I
> can assume how busy your life is however, your response is
> much appreciated.
> Helal
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> --- On Tue, 3/22/11, Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
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> From: Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
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> Subject: [KHABOR] Verdict of Col. Taher Case.
> To: khabor@yahoogroups.com,
> alapon@yahoogroups.com,
> chottala@yahoogroups.com,
> "Miro Jangi" <mjangi@yahoo.com>,
> Diagnose@yahoogroups.com,
> "shahid mahmud" <shahid6609@yahoo.com>,
> "sultan chowdhury" <chottalasultan@yahoo.com>,
> "Saad Andaleeb" <saadandaleeb@gmail.com>
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> Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 3:21 AM
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> High Court has given a verdict that the hanging of
> Col. Taher by Gen. Zia was a cold blooded murder and the
> lone person responsible for it was General Zia. The Court
> also ruled that Zia was also directly  involved in the
> killing of Bangabandhu Sk. Mujib.
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Abdul Mannan
Professor
School of Business
University of Liberal Arts Bangladesh
House # 56, Road # 4/A
Dhanmondi R/A, Dhaka-1209
Bangladesh.
BDT=GMT +6
Working Days Sunday-Thursday
E-mail: abman1971@gmail.com
 http://www.ulab.edu.bd




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Abdul Mannan
Professor
School of Business
University of Liberal Arts Bangladesh
House # 56, Road # 4/A
Dhanmondi R/A, Dhaka-1209
Bangladesh.
BDT=GMT +6
Working Days Sunday-Thursday
E-mail: abman1971@gmail.com
 http://www.ulab.edu.bd



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