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Saturday, May 11, 2013

[chottala.com] Re: {23215} my latest article on Madrasa curriculum



 
Madrassah and its Dars-e-Nizami system served its purpose for the last 10 centuries in Indopak and elsewhere in the islamic states. If todays' hollow university graduates think it is outdated, they are greatly mistaken. These madrassahs are still serving and present an alternative to the public education systems whose condition is precarious in our lands. In these madrasah system the education of modern uloom like math, science,computer are introduced and their graduates are working successfully. All that they lack is the co-operation of the university educated people who can't even bringforth workable suggestions except for their ugly criticism.
 
If these university graduates are screened how much Islam they know, the results are very discouraging rather disgusting. They are the victims of suspicion, not accepting the Quran-o-hadees except asking their references and thats all.
 
Rasoolullah Sallallaho A'laihi wa Sallam, in his khutbah in Tabook declared among other things, AL IRTIYABU MIN AL KUFR, meaning suspision is from among the kufr.
 
So these westernised young people unknowingly fall in the pit of kufr still to maintain they are muslims, this is not the rule though mostly observed among the contributors on this forum. They keep on writing on Islam without any feasible knowledge with miserable results. 

--- On Sat, 5/11/13, Humayun Rasheed <rana.humayun.rasheed@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Humayun Rasheed <rana.humayun.rasheed@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: {23215} my latest article on Madrasa curriculum
To: "bazmeqalam" <BAZMeQALAM@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, May 11, 2013, 8:15 AM

Sir, I did read your article. Please see, my email is in reply of Mr bari masud not you.
For your main email I replied earlier, may be yesterday or day before.

When Madarassah system was started they started on their own. So if you think this system is wrong from start or is derailed later on, in any case you must provide some alternate and then call people to it. It is my brotherly advise that just writing columns or forcing them to change their system is not more then a useless fight that can further break the Ummah but can't fetch any benefit.

Regards,
-Humayun.


On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Ghitreef Shahbaz <ghitreef1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear sir you totally mistaken my point , the point is that our Ulema so far are not ready to a slight change in this centuries old Darse Nizami,in fact it is anti nature also,so how can you give any alternate when the madrasa people are not ready even to discuss on the subject?
please again read my article carefully and don't jump in the fray without realizing what the author want to convey
Thanks
Mohammad Ghitreef

--- On Sat, 11/5/13, Humayun Rasheed <rana.humayun.rasheed@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Humayun Rasheed <rana.humayun.rasheed@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: {23209} my latest article on Madrasa curriculum
To: "bazmeqalam" <BAZMeQALAM@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "Ghitreef Shahbaz" <ghitreef1@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, 11 May, 2013, 4:54 PM

No Dear, you analysis is wrong, and you information about past is wrong.
But, without discussing about past, the only way or solution is to provide alternate system and then teach people to leave current system and join better alternate.


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:54 AM, bari masoud <bari_masoud@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Dr Ghitreef's article is timely. I would dare to say that the very basic-foundation of Madarsa System is based on wrong -premise in the sub-continent. It is not in accordance with concept of knowledge propounded by Islam.  Establishment of  Darul Uloom Deopband  was a reactionary move as the Ulemas of that time wittingly or unwittingly  followed  secularism by bifurcating knowledge into deen and duniya.  This set a bad precedent. It may be safely said that it was one of the major reasons behind the educational backwradness of the  community. In this context , we should objectively analyze the fall-outs of  Aligarh and Deoband movements that impacted hugely on the psyche of Muslims from generations.


From: Aijaz Zaka Syed <szaijaz@hotmail.com>
To: Ghitreef Shahbaz <ghitreef1@yahoo.com>; Bazme Qalam <bazmeqalam@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: {23154} my latest article on Madrasa curriculum

Salam
Excellent article Ghitreef sahab.  This is the need of the hour and has been for quite some time. The idea has been mooted by many intellectuals and ulema and there has been some progress as well. But clearly we have got a long way to go. Please carry forward this discussion
Wassalam
Aijaz

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ghitreef Shahbaz <ghitreef1@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 11:36:20
To: <bazmeqalam@googlegroups.com>
Cc: <maiqbaldelhi@gmail.com>; <Alfalah_Club@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: {23142} my latest article on Madrasa curriculum






Dear moderator 
please send this article to all your members
feedback will be appreciated
With regards
Mohammad Ghitreef
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