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Thursday, May 26, 2011

[chottala.com] Warm wishes



My column on 'Good university and Bad university' appears in today's Prothom Alo. The link is given below. Feedback will be appreciated.

Thanks and warm wishes.

Mannan


http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-05-27/news/157494
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Re: [chottala.com] Two interesting and informative articles



Mujib's confusion on Bangladeshi deaths

Ian Jack (21 May) mentions the controversy about death figures in Bangladesh's liberation war. On 8 January 1972 I was the first Bangladeshi to meet independence leader Sheikh Mujibur Rahman after his release from Pakistan. He was brought from Heathrow to Claridge's by the Indian high commissioner Apa Bhai Panth, and I arrived there almost immediately.

Mujib was puzzled to be addressed as "your excellency" by Mr Panth. He was surprised, almost shocked, when I explained to him that Bangladesh had been liberated and he was elected president in his absence. Apparently he arrived in London under the impression that East Pakistanis had been granted the full regional autonomy for which he had been campaigning. During the day I and others gave him the full picture of the war. I explained that no accurate figure of the casualties was available but our estimate, based on information from various sources, was that up to "three lakh" (300,000) died in the conflict.

To my surprise and horror he told David Frost later that "three millions of my people" were killed by the Pakistanis. Whether he mistranslated "lakh" as "million" or his confused state of mind was responsible I don't know, but many Bangladeshis still believe a figure of three million is unrealistic and incredible.

Serajur Rahman

Retired deputy head, BBC Bengali Service



On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:43 AM, abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com> wrote:
Fazlul Quader Chy, the lion of Chittagong that I saw walking away to his parked car
Abid Bahar
 
It was most probably in 1972 or 1973,  I saw Fazlul Quader Chowdhury at the railway parade ground. He came to attend the Janaza of Awami League's most probably Hannan or Jahur Ahamed. I saw FQC a tall man truly looked like a lion. He appeared to be a man of dignity and surely showed humility to come to attend the janaza. I saw the lion of Chittagong walking away to his parked car.
 
Yes, if the university was established in Comilla, neglecting the cosmopolitan port city of Chittagong, he would be a legend of Comilla/ Bangladesh. The anti FKC hatred truly began by some narrow -minded anti chittagonian people from the movement of the University's inception. Again it was due to him that many people of this great city irrespective of their origins are now highly placed at home and abroad.
 
I don't know for sure how FKC was involved in the liberation war, nothing seems true of what the pathological lier Hasina and her politicized court says; but I have some very good Hindu friends from Rangunia, who says that he was a good man and actually helped them. Hearing this from local Hindu people in a family gathering actually shocked me. I don't know what is true.
 
 It is true during the liberation war Hindus suffered the most. Around 1974 I had visited a very close Hindu friend's home in Rangunia, which my friend told me was burnt down by the local razakars. When explainning it, he seemed tormented by the event. No doubt like in every corner of Bangladesh, Hindus suffered the most, but I hope the present politicized Hasina's Kangaroo court  inspired by the Indian Bengali dadas like Pronobdas is not helping behind the scene trying the war crimes and torturing the accused and in the process is trying to impose the puppet AL government's anti Islamic but pro-Indian agenda.
 
Not as a matter of tit for tat but I think that when BNP returns to power, Khalida should rightfully put Hasina in trial on collaboration charges to find out the whereabouts of Hasina and the Sheikh family during the war time, (at the time in Dhaka) and how and why her family was financed and fed by the Pakistani army and also find out the mystery behind Mujib surrendering to the Pakistan army. How he could save his family but causing a genocide and now Mujib is the "father of the nation," and Zia becomes a "razakar". Surely, Hasina the worst house wife turned an administrator should be tried for her many crimes including her illegal connectivity and seeling the country to India through Banglar Mirjafors like Pronob Mukherjees.
 
 
See for more on Mujib and the liberation war:
The Bloody Month of March 1971

 
 
      

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Ataul Karim <ataulkarim49@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dear Hasan Mahmud
I would like to thank you for the paper clippings.
In Farzeen's article it show how brave her grand father was when he replied to the Indian Army. It reminds me when i read about Raja Poru got
defeated and brought before Alexander the Great and was asked by Alexander how he should be treated? Raja Poru bravely replied "Like a King".
By hearing this brave reply Alexander gave back Raja Poru's kingdom.
 
As Chittagonian we should be all proud of Farzeen's grand father Late A.K.M. Fazlul Quader Chowdhury.
 
He was a great patriot and when he died of mysterious reasons in Dhaka Central Jail in the year 1973 their were few hundred thousand people attended his Janaza.
The people of Chittagong has really showed their last respect to this great son of the soil.  We should not forget his contribution for Chittagong. Such as
Chittagong University (which was suppose to be in Comilla), Chiitagong Marine Academy (which was suppose to be in Karachi), and Chittagong Engineering
College.
I would like to say that he was the last Lion of Chittagong.
 
I think he believed what Tipu Sultan said 'I would like to live like a Lion for two days instead of a rat for two hundred days'.
 
Thank you again for the paper clippings.
 
Ataul Karim
(free thinker) 


From: Hasan mahmud <dewalichandan@yahoo.com>
To: Chottala Forum <chottala@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 12:07:33 PM
Subject: [chottala.com] Two interesting and informative articles [2 Attachments]

 


Dear Moderator,Sir,

Providing two articles for keen readers of Chottala Forum.

1) One was published in daily Amardesh on 18 May 2011.

Prof. Abdur Noor of Public Administration Dept. of Chittagong University wrote it in reference to a eulogy written by Bangabir Quader Siddiqi as tribute to Late Khandaker Delwar Hossain, former BNP Secretary.

Pls find attachment.
Pls also find the flwg link:

http://www.amardeshonline.com/pages/details/2011/05/18/821062

2)The other was published in daily Nayadiganta on 23 April 2011.
Farzeen Quader Chowdhury, daughter of detained BNP leader Salahuddin Quader Chowdhury wrote it as rejoinder to a sub-editorial column written by Bishwajit in daily Prothom Alo.
Pls find attachment.Pls also follow the link:

http://www.dailynayadiganta.com/2011/04/23/fullnews.asp?News_ID=273980&sec=6

Beleive, readers having interest in unveiling the cloak of history will surely enjoy these two articles.

Best regards,
Hasan Mahmud,
Chittagong.





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RE: [chottala.com] Suranjit s ugly comment about Yunus please protest



Dear Shadin Akash,
The nature of that ugly comments by Suranjit Sen proves his identity. He may be a politician but by his ugly comments for an world famous Nobel Laurette like Dr. Mohd Yunus, proved himself as not a good man but a great CHAMCHA. His five fingers are now in GHEE.  You can cure a sick man but cannot cure an incurable person like Suranjit Sen. You are absolutely right such type of sycophants are actually responsible for the death of our great leader Bangabandhu.
Dr. Siraj Uddowllah,
Canada. 

 

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From: shadinakash@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 08:07:31 -0700
Subject: [chottala.com] Suranjit s ugly comment about Yunus please protest

 
Suranjit made a comment that I have seen in TV and he said,
"Bage dhorle chare kintu Hasina dhorele chare na, Yunus mia k ki charche ?". What a dirty and filthy comment by an MP who is the chairman of the Constitution ammendment  committee. Now you can imagine what a dictator is Hasina who dictate the supreme court like Iahya and Tikkha Khan. And how dirty is her sycophat who can tell the great man Professor Yunus "Yunus Mia". Such type of sycophatns are actually responsible for the death of Bangabandhu which next generation must know.  We could not punish those real killer I hope next generation will. Those dirty AL people did the same thing like those of notorious Pakistani army and rajakar and thus reduced the popularity of Bangabandhu.


From: Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 1:19:00 PM
Subject: [KHABOR] Suranjit compares PM with tiger

 



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[chottala.com] Yunus card failed to work for Khaleda Zia !!!!!



 
Yunus card failed to work for Khaleda Zia !!!!!
 
 
 
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 "That's not going to happen" !!!!!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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[chottala.com] 3 million or 3 lakh? Are they same Mujib?




So, Mujib actually exaggarated or lied to the world with the numbers about the death in 71? Or, due to mental deliquency, he skewed up the number 3 million or 3 lakh?
 
For 40 years, we were forced to believe these lies?
 
 

--- On Wed, 5/25/11, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>
Subject: [notun_bangladesh] RE: Mujib's confusion on Bangladeshi deaths
To:
Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 10:03 PM

 
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Zoglul Husain <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:34 AM
Subject: Serajur Rahman: Death toll 3 lakh in 1971 war

Serajur Rahman, retired deputy head, BBC Bengali Service, London, expressed his surprise and horror at Mujib's figure of 3 million Bangladeshi war dead (because of Mujib's wild exaggeration). 

However, there are people who think that the figure of 3 million was prompted to Mujib by India. Even after 40 years of the war, there has been no national or international field investigation to determine the death toll figure. Even if it is done now, it has to be done objectively, without political bias and with no scopes for distortions. The published figures, so far, vary greatly. The Hamoodur Rahman commission of Pakistan put the figure as low as 26,000 civilian casualties, whereas published books vary with figures between 200,000 and 3 million.
 
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Isha Khan wrote:

Mujib's confusion on Bangladeshi deaths

The Guardian, Tuesday 24 May 2011

Ian Jack (21 May) mentions the controversy about death figures in Bangladesh's liberation war. On 8 January 1972 I was the first Bangladeshi to meet independence leader Sheikh Mujibur Rahman after his release from Pakistan. He was brought from Heathrow to Claridge's by the Indian high commissioner Apa Bhai Panth, and I arrived there almost immediately.

Mujib was puzzled to be addressed as "your excellency" by Mr Panth. He was surprised, almost shocked, when I explained to him that Bangladesh had been liberated and he was elected president in his absence. Apparently he arrived in London under the impression that East Pakistanis had been granted the full regional autonomy for which he had been campaigning. During the day I and others gave him the full picture of the war. I explained that no accurate figure of the casualties was available but our estimate, based on information from various sources, was that up to "three lakh" (300,000) died in the conflict.

To my surprise and horror he told David Frost later that "three millions of my people" were killed by the Pakistanis. Whether he mistranslated "lakh" as "million" or his confused state of mind was responsible I don't know, but many Bangladeshis still believe a figure of three million is unrealistic and incredible.

Serajur Rahman

Retired deputy head, BBC Bengali Service

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/24/mujib-confusion-on-bangladeshi-deaths



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