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Saturday, March 19, 2011

[chottala.com] BD concedes Transit Corridor to India?



Thank you sir for telling me Beggar BD has something called Dignity and in name of her Sovereignty you can act Anti poor people of your country. What would BD would do with her friends like you ...!
Okay sir, BD Per Capita is not low enough yet. BD is not backwards enough. Bangladeshis are not yet poor enough. Go ahead and make them become poorer so you can have more Servants in your House ...!  


From: Khoka Mia <akhoka786@yahoo.com>

Here you go again! Mr. Turkman. Whenever an issue with India comes up, you jump on playing the religion card. You and your likes drag Pakistan as well. It is not about fighting the Kaafir, it is about equality (not being subserviant), dignity, and sovereignity between nations. Bangladesh may be small in size, but a great nation of 160 million strong placing her in the fourth position in people power. Bangladeshis are eternally devoted to their national identity.


From: S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal.net>
To: Khoka Mia <akhoka786@yahoo.com>
Cc: diagnose@yahoogroups.com; reform-bd@yahoogroups.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 11:19:50 PM
Subject: BD concedes Transit Corridor to India?

Oh please forgive me. I had no idea we are at war with Kaafir India just like Pakistan has been since 1948 and had no idea that BD should not have any kind of dealings with our Enemy India. How could I be so treasonous?
Lets talk with Pakistan and declare war at India simultaneously to conquer it ...!


From: Khoka Mia <akhoka786@yahoo.com>



Mr. Turkman, why it is always that you are fanatically in support of India's interest? Are you an India promoter? What is your share in this deal, will you tell us? If you are brave enough why don't you list all the unsettled issues between Bangladesh and India; and don't forget to add on the list the diversion of all surface water by India, building dams on transboundary rivers.
All the issues brought to light by Zoglul Husain is absolutely correct. These are legitimate concern and poses threat to the existence of Bangladesh as an independent and sovereign nation.
What Bangladesh is getting except the perpetuity assurance of the present government? The present government is buying perpetuity to a tutelage government under India by selling the interest of Bangladesh.
 
-Bangladeshi 

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Look at Iran ...!
* She is at fault in making money through Bandar Abbas port also because it is providing Transit Corridor to Russia, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and all Central Asian States 2 decades ago.
Iran is so stupid that 2 decades ago, she spent billions to build a Highway connecting that port of Ashkhabad, Turkmenistan and also built a Railway Line going through whole length of the country from that port to connect with old USSR Railway System northeast of her.
What a stupid country ...!
* And then, there is a stupid country, Germany that conceded Transit to Soviet Natural Gas Pipe Line in 1970's to let her Gas be sold to almost all countries in Continental Europe despite US Opposition.
USA is a stupid country. She had also conceded transit of Natural Gas Pipe line to Canada going through whole north-south length of it going to Mexico.
* Pakistan is another example of such stupid concession. She has conceded transit to Iranian Gas Pipe Line despite US Opposition, going to India and our stupid Enemy, India has conceded Transit of that Pipe line to BD after it reaches her. 
What can we do?
This world is full of stupid countries like BD.
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S U Turkman

--- In reform-bd@yahoogroups.com, Zoglul Husain <zoglul@...> wrote:
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> http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=177610

> Comment: We are totally opposed to transit/corridor agreement with India under the present circumstances. Roads constructed for these purposes will almost certainly be used for India's military purposes, which may even be from the very first consignment of smaller items, scheduled from 20 March. (Please see: ODC shipment begins March 20 http://www.bdnews24.com/details.php?cid=2&id=189840 ). This is not only a security risk, it is occupation of our infrastructure, an attempt to subjugate us, which may also drag us between warring parties. 

> I don't know if there would be demos, barricades, etc., but the govt is making a grievous betrayal of the country. They know we were denied transit from/to Nepal, Bhutan, etc. They know the problems between the two countries have not been resolved. The very serious problems of river water, border killings, smuggling in India's favour, enclaves, trade policies, conspiracy and hegemony, military and security, etc., etc. are in the way of developing friendly relations between the two countries. The govt is still behaving like lackeys mesmerised under the spell of a hegemonic power.

> It's all an utter betrayal of national interest and sovereignty. We condemn the govt on Hasina's MoU's with India, in which our national interests have been sold out and our sovereignty surrendered. We must unite to resist these.

   




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Re: [chottala.com] Dr. Muzzammel Passed Away -- Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un



My heartfelt condolence to late Dr. Muzzammel's family and relatives, and prayers for his departed soul to jannah. Amin,
Anis Ahmed, Maryland

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Subject: [chottala.com] Dr. Muzzammel Passed Away -- Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

 

I am saddened to inform that Dr. Mohiuddin Muzzammel, a renowned physician (Ob/Gyn) of Northern Virginia passed away this morning at the University of Maryland Medical Center in Baltimore, Maryland.  Dr. Muzzammel was a past director of the Bangladesh Association of America, Inc.  He was also actively involved with the Bangladesh Medical Association of North America.

Updates will be provided soon regarding Namaz-e-Janaza for him.  Please circulate this and pray for him and his family.

Bashir Ahmed



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[chottala.com] Men. Who needs them?



 
Intersesting article on Men......
 
All the good men were either killed (by men) or had left BD, now the country is left in the hands of two vindictive housewives. In the West, men have started to grow up as boys nowadays?? (just joking).  Happy reading.



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[chottala.com] The Mystique of the PM’s Son



The Mystique of the PM's Son

I'm not suggesting that Joy is in a race to beat Tarique and Coco. But what is deeply disturbing is that there's growing perception that he is. And, I'm sure Sheikh Hasina being a politician knows very well that perception could be fatal. She's also smart enough to see the red flag and hope she'll do something decisive to turn the tide of anger, even from Awami League supporters, against her family before it's too late.

Full Article –

 

http://deshcalling.blogspot.com/2011/03/mystique-of-pms-son.html

 



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[chottala.com] Dr. Muzzammel Passed Away -- Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un



I am saddened to inform that Dr. Mohiuddin Muzzammel, a renowned physician (Ob/Gyn) of Northern Virginia passed away this morning at the University of Maryland Medical Center in Baltimore, Maryland.  Dr. Muzzammel was a past director of the Bangladesh Association of America, Inc.  He was also actively involved with the Bangladesh Medical Association of North America.

Updates will be provided soon regarding Namaz-e-Janaza for him.  Please circulate this and pray for him and his family.

Bashir Ahmed


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[chottala.com] Bhasani's Ethics in Politics and the 1972-75 AL Rule



Bhasani's Ethics in Politics and the 1972-75 AL Rule

 (Adapted from Abid Bahar's book, Searching for Bhasani, Citizen of the World, 2010)

Bhasani's understanding of a good society is based on his Sufi understanding of being honest. He realized the deteriorating moral decay of leaders and believed that the remedy was through change in the character.  This is an indication of his prescription of how to get rid of the Nafsányiat (destruction of the ego) of the rulers, which is according to Sufi doctrine, a progressive, long process that is never really completed. Thus "nafsani"implies a progressive purification, a process, rather than revolution or imposition of "Islamic rule" from the above through "Islamic Law" (as in Pakistan).  Bhasani expressed his dismay at the government actions.[1]

Bhasani wrote in a pamphlet in January 1974:

I have said several times to the Prime Minister and his ministers through the newspapers that most of you are my former associates. Neutral observers will be compelled to say that what is happening in today's Bangladesh, with Mujib Bahini,(Mujib's paramilitary force) Rakhi Bahini(the paramilitary defense force), Volunteer Bahini (the volunteer force), M. P.'s, party leaders, there is much more oppression, injustice, corruption, nepotism, and anti-state and anti-social activities than in the former governments of Pakistan. Those who preached honesty in politics are now practicing the opposite. You are absorbed in making money and abusing power. …[2]

While Bhasani's call was for destruction of the ego, the AL government glorified its leader, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman to the status of a king. Like Mussolini in Italian fascism the AL asked Bengalis to imitate the dress code of Mujib and only praise Mujib. In the style of an authoritarian rule the government also started its different brigades of para military forces. They became active to keep the opposition under control.
 There was already Mujib Bahini, led by Mujib's nephew, Sheikh Moni.
Later Lal Bahini under Abdul Mannan,
and for Mujib's personal security, Rakkhi Bahini, headed by the Indian army came into existence.
Government banned most newspapers, except Ittifaq and few others, which were government controlled. 
Bengali nationalism was declared as one of the most important goals of the nation to be promoted.
During the state of emergency, the police and court system were also made obsolete. In its place, the AL and its forces started to rule the country by the order of its leaders and their use of force.
Opposition leadership was crushed by random arrests. [3] Mujib laid down extra-ordinary paradoxes and contradictions behind his rhetoric of Mujibbad.

Bhasani organized a public meeting on April 14th 1974 at the Polton ground. At the meeting he said with a sad voice:

I do not wish to live anymore. Most of my friends and colleagues have passed away. I am alive to see the suffering of human beings, Ashraful Mominin (the best creature of God). Now I want to see that Bengali Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Christian will have happiness. …[4]

Bhasani was referring to the famine and the continuous suffering it caused. He was sad at the suffering of human beings, the creations of God. Bhasani recommended to Mujib that:

It is not possible for you alone to face …the problem we have in front of us, Mujib, release all the political prisoners. Withdraw all the warrants. Sit with the leaders of the opposition. Put all your energy into saving human beings….[5]

Bhasani with his rubúbiyah vision seem to be progressive in his thinking to preach the welfare of all people. He was ready to sit with the government to find a solution to the famine problem. Maksud says that, unlike the other famines in Bengal, this was not the result of a food shortage. There was plenty of food in stock. [6] Steve Ramer of National Geographic reported that even during the time of the famine in Bangladesh there was 40 hundred thousand tons of rice in store which was one third of a year's requirement.[7]

It is important to note that within three years of Bangladesh's independence, it had received aid valued at two hundred crores from foreign countries, but Bangladeshis died of starvation. The government characterized it as a temporary problem. As soon as foreign aid arrived it was smuggled out to interested quarters. This was blamed on widespread smuggling and hoarding by AL leaders and their host Indian merchant class.[8] Government tried to take some measures. It opened 5,662 temporary kitchens to help the poor. They did not solve the problem and the unrest continued. [9] Mujib cadres were sinning against the nation's most sacred possession, honesty in politics, the source of the Bangladesh nation's vitality.

What is happening today in Bangladesh by the 14 Party Mohajot led by Hasina , the repressive measures against the opposition, widespread corruption, the price hike, cadre politics, India-love is similar to the BKSALITE one party rule during Sk. Mujib's regime from 1972-75.
Bhasani was the founder of the AL party. He was a selfless politician and the opposition leader at the time 1972-75. Bhasani helped Mujib to get elected in 1974 so that he can help built the nation but Mujib was increasingly becoming an authoritarian ruler. From 1974 onward, Bhasani would say that he was going to retire from party politics because his understanding of good society came in sharp contrast with Mujib's, the latter was once his deputy.
Endnotes


[1] Syed Abul Maksud, Mawlana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhasani, op. cit., p. 483.

 [2] Ibid., pp. 472-473.

[3] Ibid., pp. 464-467. (Emphasis added)

[4] Ibid., p. 473.

[5] Ibid, p. 473. (Emphasis added)

[6] Stave Ramer, "Bangladesh reports" in the National Geographic, July 1975.

[7]  Maksud, Mawlana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhasani, op. cit., p. 473.

[8] Maksud, Mawlana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhasani, op. cit., pp. 464-467.

[9] Ibid.



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Re: [chottala.com] Fwd: Sarmila Bose's program Review by Mr.Hemayet Ullah (Polash) Maryland, USA

All people should know that Bangladesh is libreated for building self depended Independent develop Bangladesh to establish socio economical justice under lawful administration in the system of lawful democrcy.
So why are not you all asking the administration of Bangladesh?
To lead Bangladesh for building as self dependend Bangladesh the leaders of Bangladesh are to be needed to be quality knowledge educated and quality understanding leaders for understanding to know
What are the problems in Bangladesh and how could be solved these problems of Bangladesh to build active Bangladesh?
For this reasons the Government administration is needed to provide nation wide specific quality work education and understanding knowledge education to all gategori people of Bangladesh according the requirement and to do their respective duty efficiently in time.

--- On Wed, 16/3/11, Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
> Subject: [chottala.com] Fwd: Sarmila Bose's program Review by Mr.Hemayet Ullah (Polash) Maryland, USA
> To: "notun Bangladesh" <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>, chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Khobor" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>
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> at Woodrow Wilson center in Washington DC. Even though she
> narrated her book chapters with eloquence, the aftermath
> discussions, I am sure, will leave a bitter taste in her
> mouth for a long time to come. It appeared that her problem
> mainly stems from the fact that our media disproportionately
>  portray/demonize the Pakistan army by name
> calling as hyena, khan sena etc; while the army does not
> deserve such attributes (Kamrul Islam's painting). She
> spent a great deal of time trying to paint that many of the
> Baluch army person who were perceived as more generous
> than that of the Panjabi's, were in fact not Baluchi
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> occupiers- she protested but did not answer the very pointed
> question by Anis bhai of VOA that after declaring the
> Independence of Bangladesh on the 26th of March, any foreign
> force would naturally be deemed as occupiers.....On the
> question of whether she is being paid by ISI- her one word
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> which she finds offensive.....At least the Americans had the
> luxury of trying the war criminals at Nuremburg... we did
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> appease her... bought her books in drove and started
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> autograph. While getting the autograph, one started to
> narrate how muktijodda's killed people in his area!!!!
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Re: [chottala.com] Protest against Sarmila Bose - a protégée Public Relation officer for defeatist Pakistan Army ....

Mr Aslam
You can ask the administration
To lead Bangladesh for building as self dependend Bangladesh The leaders of Bangladesh are needed to quality knowledge educated leaders for understanding what the problems are in Bangladesh and how could be solved these problems in Bangladesh?
For this reasons the government administration is needed to provide nation wide quality knowledge work education and understanding knowledge to all gategori people in Bangladesh according requirement to understand and to do their respective duty efficiently in time.

--- On Wed, 16/3/11, Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
> Subject: [chottala.com] Protest against Sarmila Bose - a protégée Public Relation officer for defeatist Pakistan Army ....
> To: "Khobor" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, chottala@yahoogroups.com, "notun Bangladesh" <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>
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> Bengali dada ...." . No wonder, this kinds of
> argument has made him a greet schoooolar
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> officer for defeatist Pakistan Army ---the
> Military Incorporated of Pakistan) has in no way
> dreamt of an  Independent country of Bangla
> speaking people. As a matter of fact,
> Sarmila Bose has not ever written in favor of Bangladesh
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> extreemly against our war of independence ,,,, against
> the people of Bangladesh irrespective of any
> party-affiliation.
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> Pakistan in the context of the
> Bangladesh's War of
> Independence ..... It is
> irritating, but the people of Bangladesh do not care
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> say .... we know who is  her real
> master..  we also know
> that every bitch has her day, but that day is very short
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> games ... her true motives will be
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> in 1971 Pakistan Army
> committed Genocide and Mass-rape in occupied
> Bangladesh  ... Do
> you disagree, Dr. Abid Bahar ?
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> sovereign socialist republic within the Indian union [see
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> This is what History book says:
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> United Bengal Movement a political
> proposal to solve the communal question on the eve of the
> termination of British rule in India. In April-May 1947 it
> became clear that the Partition of India was ineviatable.
> Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy, the Premier of
> the province of Bengal, formally launched his idea of a
> sovereign state for undivided Bengal. Almost
> simultaneously Sarat Chandra
> Bose came forward with his proposal for
> a Sovereign Socialist Republic of Bengal. There had
> been differences of opinion between Suhrawardy and Sarat
> Bose regarding the sovereign status of Bengal, but the
> primary motive of both of them was to resist the partition
> of the province. While Suhrawardy wanted a completely
> independent state for united Bengal outside the union of
> India, the Sarat Bose visualised Bengal to be a
> sovereign socialist republic within the Indian
> union.
>
> Both, however, vehemently protested the move for the
> partition of Bengal, initiated by most Congress and Hindu
> Mohasabha leaders of the province. Some Hindu and Muslim
> leaders of Bengal supported Suhrawardy and Sarat Bose in
> their move. Prominent among them were Kiran Shankar
> Roy (Leader of the Congress Parliamentary Party in Bengal
> Assembly), Satya Ranjan Bakshi (Sarat Bose's
> Secretary), Abul Hashim (Secretary of the Bengal
> Provincial Muslim League), Fazlur Rahman (Revenue Minister
> of the Province), Mohammad ali Chowdhuri (Finance Minister
> in Suhrawardy's cabinet) and others. For a while, the
> proposal was discussed both at private and public bodies and
> important negotiations took place among Bengal leaders.
>
> In fact, the concept of a sovereign independent Bengal
> had its origins in the past. The adoption of the Lahore
> Resolution in March 1940 was a significant step towards
> highlighting the demand for separate homelands for the
> Muslims of the two Muslim majority zones of India. But the
> Lahore Resolution remained undefined until April 1946. To
> the Bengal League leaders, the Pakistan scheme was mainly a
> proposal for the establishment of two sovereign and
> independent states in the two Muslim majority zones of
> India. The majority opinion, represented by Suhrawardy and
> Abul Hashim, favoured some kind of Greater Bengal consisting
> of the whole of Bengal and Assam plus an adjacent part of
> the district of Purnea in Bihar which had a Muslim
> majority.
>
> khwaja nazimuddin
> (an influential member of the working committee of
> Bengal as well as of All India MUSLIM LEAGUE and Maulana
> AKRAM KHAN (President of Bengal Muslim League) opposed the
> move. They wanted a more homogeneous Pakistan excluding the
> Hindu-majority Burdwan Division and including the rest of
> Bengal, the whole of Assam, and some portion of the Purnea
> District in Bihar.
>
>  Mohammad Ali Jinnah came out officially with his
> views on the issue in the Muslim Legislators' Convention
> at Delhi held on 7-9 April 1946. His definition of Pakistan
> led his followers in Bengal to reconsider their earlier
> stand on Pakistan. They now began to support Jinnah's
> stand for Akhand Pakistan comprising the whole of
> Bengal and Assam in the North East and the Punjab, Sind,
> Baluchistan and the North West Frontier Province in the
> North West of India. But it seems probable that the
> Hashim-Suhrawardy group of the Bengal League conceived the
> idea of East Pakistan in terms of an independent and
> sovereign Greater Bengal since it was fully consistent with
> the scheme of Pakistan as envisaged in the Lahore
> Resolution. Sometime later both Suhrawardy and Hashim, being
> influenced by this ideal, initiated the move for a united
> independent Bengal through negotiations with provincial
> Congress leaders like Sarat Bose and Kiran Shankar Roy.
>
>
>  
> After Attlee's February Declaration (1947) and the
> arguments advanced by the indian national
> congress  for the partition of the Punjab and
> Bengal following the declaration, a few politicians of
> Bengal, including Suhrawardy, thought of
> maintaining the integrity of the province as a sovereign
> state. They felt the necessity of making Bengal a
> self-sufficient state with its own constitution. The Premier
> of Bengal emphasised the formation of a coalition ministry
> in the province. Suhrawardy further emphasised that
> Bengal belonged to the Bengalis and was
> indivisible. One portion of the province
> depended on the other and all were entitled to participate
> in its administration. He hoped that all sections of the
> people of the province would want to live and work for
> making Bengal a glorious land. Suhrawardy maintained that
> independence would usher in a new era of peace and
> prosperity in Bengal. Hashim urged upon the Congress and the
> Muslim leaders of Bengal to make joint efforts for the
> settlement of their affairs peacefully and happily outside
> the aegis of the British administration. Among the Congress
> leaders of the province, Sarat Bose shared the Premier's
> view on an undivided Bengal.
>
> During the days of April-May 1947, the Hindu press and
> politicians began an intense movement for partitioning
> Bengal. The British Declaration of February 1947 clearly
> foreshadowed the partition of India. As it became clear to
> the Congress and Hindu Mahasabha leaders that the partition
> of the country was inevitable, they insisted on retaining
> the Hindu-majority areas of Bengal and Hindu & Sikh
> majority areas of Punjab within the union of India. The
> Bengal Provincial Congress Committee formally declared in
> favour of partition of the province and the creation of a
> separate Hindu majority province (West Bengal) which
> included Calcutta within the union of India. Almost
> simultaneously, the Bengal Provincial Hindu Mahasabha took a
> resolution proclaiming its firm resolve that the Hindus of
> Bengal, at least the ones in Hindu majority areas, should
> remain within the Union of India and should not be separated
> from the rest of India.  shyama prasad
> mukherjee was able to win the majority of
> Bengal Congress and Bengal Hindu representatives in the
> Central and Provincial Legislative Assemblies to his side.
> In a press conference held in Delhi on 27 April 1947,
> Suhrawardy put forward his plan for a united
> independent Bengal. Following him Abul Hashim declared his
> views on the same issue through a statement issued in
> Calcutta on 29 April 1947. A few days later, Sarat Bose put
> forward his proposals for a Sovereign Socialist Republic of
> Bengal.
>
> These schemes were launched in an atmosphere of mutual
> distrust between the two major communities of India in
> general and Bengal in particular. The Pakistan movement led
> by Jinnah had become popular among the Muslims of Bengal in
> the post-Lahore Resolution days. The Bengal Provincial
> Muslim League began to mobilise Muslim public opinion in
> support of the demand for Pakistan. Congress and Hindu
> Mahasabha leaders of the province were alarmed at the
> prospect of the 'Pakistanisation' of the whole of
> Bengal. The inevitable increase in communal tensions made it
> difficult for a Congress-League accord in the province. The
> situation was aggravated by the All India Muslim
> League's recourse to the strategy of 'Direct
> Action' to achieve Pakistan. 
>
>  
> Ultimately, Bengal Provincial Hindu Mahasabha and the
> majority of the Congress leaders of the province set aside
> the scheme of a sovereign Bengal. They mobilised a large
> section of Bengali Hindus against Suhrawardy's move.
> They were of the opinion that it was nothing but a political
> strategy to establish Pakistan in the whole of Bengal. The
> Hindu press did everything it could to convince Hindu
> opinion against the united Bengal formula. The Hindu
> Mahasabha influenced Bengali Congressmen to campaign against
> the move for an independent Bengal.
>
> While the majority of the Bengal Congressmen were
> opposed to Suhrawardy's scheme for an independent
> Bengal, the opinion in the League circles also came in
> favour of the partion. The majority of the Bengal Muslim
> Leaguers, led by Khwaja Nazimuddin and Maulana Akram Khan,
> wanted Bengal to be an integral part of the single state of
> Pakistan, and not an independent state. Nazimuddin, Akram
> Khan and their followers were just as adamant as Jinnah
> about Pakistan. They firmly believed in Jinnah's Two
> Nations Theory.
>
> In spite of the opposition from most Congress and League
> leaders, Suhrawardy and Hashim continued their efforts to
> reach an agreement with Hindu leaders of the province on the
> basis of their schemes. Suhrawardy met Frederick Burrows,
> Jinnah and Lord mountbatten, at
> different times and had satisfactory talks with them. Sarat
> Bose raised a voice of protest against the AICC's March
> resolution. Kiran Shankar was convinced that if
> League leaders were prepared to come forward with some offer
> to the Hindus, the province could still be kept unified.
> From the beginning of May 1947, the Bengal unificationists
> thus came closer to each other. They met Gandhi
> with their proposals during the latter's visit to
> Calcutta and sought his suggestions. They also tried to
> persuade the Congress and the League High Commands to accept
> their views. Finally, a tentative agreement was reached at a
> meeting, held on 20 May 1947, in Calcutta among Bengali
> leaders who were favourable to the move for a united and
> independent Bengal. The following were the terms of the
> agreement:
>
>
>
>
> 1.
>
> Bengal would be a Free State. The Free State of Bengal
> would decide its relations with the rest of
> India.
>
> 2.
>
> The Constitution of the Free State of Bengal would
> provide for election to the Bengal Legislature on the basis
> of a joint electorate and adult franchise, with reservation
> of seats proportionate to the population among Hindus and
> Muslims. The seats set aside for Hindus and Scheduled Caste
> Hindus would be distributed amongst them in proportion to
> their respective population, or in such manner as may be
> agreed among them. The constituencies would be multiple
> constituencies and the votes would be distributive and not
> cumulative. A candidate who got the majority of the votes of
> his own community cast during the elections and 25 percent
> of the votes of the other communities so cast, would be
> declared elected. If no candidate satisfied these
> conditions, that candidate who got the largest number of
> votes of his own community would be elected.
>
>
> 3.
>
> On the announcement by His Majesty's Government
> that the proposal of the Free State of Bengal had been
> accepted and that Bengal would not be partitioned, the
> present Bengal Ministry would be dissolved. A new interim
> Ministry would be brought into being, consisting of an equal
> number of Muslims and Hindus (including Scheduled Caste
> Hindus) but excluding the Chief Minister. In this Ministry,
> Chief Minister would be a Muslim and the Home Minister a
> Hindu.
>
>
> 4.
>
> Pending the final emergence of a Legislature and a
> Ministry under the new constitutions, Hindus (including
> Scheduled Caste Hindus) and Muslims would have an equal
> share in the Services, including military and police. The
> Services would be manned by Bengalis.
>
>
> 5.
>
> A Constituent Assembly composed of 30 persons, 16
> Muslims and 14 non-Muslims, would be elected by Muslim and
> non-Muslim members of the Legislature respectively,
> excluding Europeans.
>
> After arriving at an agreement among themselves,
> Suhrawardy, Kiran Shankar Roy and Sarat Chandra Bose tried
> to secure the approval of the Congress and the League High
> Commands for the terms of the tentative agreement. But the
> prevailing misunderstanding between the Congress and the
> League leaders and the changing political situation
> completely unnerved the authors of the agreement. The
> majority of the Congress and League leaders of Bengal
> denounced the terms of the agreement outright. Influential
> Hindu dailies of Calcutta and the press belonging to the
> Khwaja group of the Bengal League started campaigning
> against the terms of the agreement. While the Khwaja group
> thought that the agreement would amount to a complete
> surrender to the Hindus, Congress and Hindu Mahasabha
> leaders felt that it was designed entirely to extend the
> frontiers of Pakistan. On 28 May 1947, the Working Committee
> of the Bengal Provincial Muslim League at its meeting under
> the Presidentship of Akram Khan denounced the terms of the
> tentative agreement and reiterated its adherence to the
> League demand for Pakistan and expressed full confidence in
> the leadership of Jinnah. The Bengal unity formula received
> a further setback when, following the statement of the
> Congress Working Committee, Kalipada Mukherjee, the General
> Secretary of the Bengal Congress discarded it through a
> statement issued on 1 June 1947.
>
> In all-India politics, the main opposition to the
> proposal for a sovereign independent Bengal came from the
> Indian National Congress. The Congress High Command was
> frightened of the possibility of permanent domination of
> Hindus by Muslims in a united Bengal. Both Jawaharlal Nehru
> and Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel were totally opposed to the
> concept of a sovereign Bengal. Nehru thought that through
> this scheme the Muslim League in Bengal would force
> practically the whole of Bengal to join Pakistan. He further
> held the view that if Bengal were to remain united it should
> continue to be a part of the Union of India. He made it
> clear that Congress would regard a separate state of Bengal
> as an extension of Pakistan. Sardar Patel too offered
> determined resistance to the move for Bengal unity. His
> correspondence with influential Hindu leaders of Bengal
> during April-June 1947 indicates his role in directing
> Hindus to the partition of the province as well as his
> fanatical opposition to the idea of a sovereign Bengal. He
> condemned those Hindu leaders of Bengal who had got
> themselves involved in negotiations with the Muslim League
> leaders of the province.
>
> The approach of the Muslim League High Command to the
> terms of the tentative agreements was also not favourable.
> True, Jinnah, was not totally opposed to the proposition. It
> is evident that he had once offered some encouragement to
> the scheme. Considering the arguments of Mountbatten that in
> case of a division of India there should be a partition of
> the Punjab and Bengal, Jinnah initially was ready to agree
> to the proposal of a united independent Bengal. His primary
> consideration was to avert the partition of Bengal; the
> possibility of a potential alliance between an independent
> Bengal and Pakistan in the future was of secondary
> importance to him. But he could not finally settle his mind
> in favour of the issue. Although apparently he had given his
> blessings to the move, several factors seemed to have been
> responsible for making Jinnah reconsider his stand. He
> rejected the idea in the end, perhaps he felt that it was
> after all a deviation from the creed of Pakistan. He was not
> interested in offering any concessions such as joint
> electorate etc, as incorporated within the terms of the
> tentative agreement.
>
> The Premier of Bengal had sincerely felt that the
> formation of a coalition Ministry in the province would be
> an important step towards bringing the Hindus and Muslims of
> Bengal closer together as well as preventing the province
> from being partitioned. But Jinnah never considered these
> issues to be matters of great urgency. His veto to a
> coalition cabinet in Bengal proved to be fatal to the
> Suhrawardy-Bose Formula.
>
> The British were never totally allergic to the idea of a
> sovereign independent Bengal. Burrows, the Governor of the
> province, was not at all in favour of the partition of the
> province. In fact, he was inclined to the Suhrawardy- Bose
> Formula and had tried his best for its implementation to the
> last. The Viceroy was also not unwilling to offer united
> Bengal the status of a Dominion along with India and
> Pakistan. He had assured Suhrawardy that the British would
> accept any settlement about Bengal approved by the League
> and the Congress High Commands. But the British had to look
> at the question from an all India point of view. They were
> not eager to compromise the safety of the whole of India for
> the interest of one province. Hence in the long run the
> failure of the scheme was inevitable.The final blow to the
> concept was given when the Congress and the League High
> Commands accepted Mountbatten Plan (the 3rd June Plan of
> 1947) for partition of India and for transfer of power to
> the two Dominions of India and Pakistan. [Chitta Ranjan
> Misra]
>
> Please read : Badruddin Umar's "Amar
> Jibon" as well .....
>
> Amara Jibana: 1931-1950
> by Badruddin
> Umar
>
>
>
>
>
> ISBN
> 9848391355 / 9789848391358 / 984-8391-35-5
>
> Publisher
> Sahityika
>
> Country
> Bangladesh
>
> Language
> Bengali
>
> Edition
> Hardcover
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011
> at 5:37 PM, abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Syed Aslam is a West Bengali dada who is reading
> the wrong history for us.
>
> He says:
> "BTW, Samila Bose is related to Sarat Chandra
> Bose who jointly with Husayan Shahid Shrawardy demanded
> Greater Bengal as a seperate political entity in 1946, but
> was opposed by both Muslim League and Hindu Mohashova and
> part of  congress as well ...."
>
> Correction: It was the  Hindu Mohashova
> and Nehru particularly not just opposed it but took
> measures with Hindu Mohashova and the British to divide
> Bengal. Surprisingly Muslim League/ Jinnah finding
> Calcutta to be included with India seriously opposed the
> division of Bengal. Muslim League didn't want the
> division of provinces but wanted the provinces to join with
> Pakistan.  Most communal dadas from West Bengali India
> impose this distorted history on Pakistan and
> Muslims. Syed Aslamda can find this fact in some
> Indian history books in his native province West Bengal as
> well.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mister Aminul Islam Raj
>  
> So, your  statement "Sarmila
> Bose is one them who dreamt of
> an  Independent country of Bangla speaking people
> not a prodesh" is wrong and out of order
> ......You have failed to provide any authentic reference to
> support your statement.... She was never connected with any
> endeavour that supports the rights of Bangla
> speaking people or any other people. In essence, she is
> acting as a protégé for the Paki military junta
> (Military Inc.
>
> of Pakistan) .....
>  
> BTW, you are now asking me to contact Sarmila Bose.
> Did you contact her before you made the above statement in
> your last post?
>  
> In our times, the main source of information is
> internet ..... anyone can get a real overview  on her
> views and biased "research"  with little effort
> from internet.....
>  
> No one is calling Sarmila Bose a razakar ... But,
> evidently her bias and support for hyenas of Pakistan is
> well known and explicit through her writings ........ The
> criminals of Pakistan are saluting her for her
> "inventions".
>
>  
> She has been defending the Pakistan army's
> attrocities of 1971 in occupied Bangladesh with an intention
> of white-washing their crimes ...No one (except few hidden
> pro-Pakistani defeatists) in Bangladesh, irrespective of any
> political party inclination  for AL or BNP  will
> support her efforts for undermining our Glorious War
> of Independence ....
>
>  
> Ms. Sharmila Bose in her paper entitled
> “Losing the Victims: Problems of Using Women as
> Weapons in Recounting the Bangladesh
> War�  paints a picture of the Pakistani
> military as a disciplined force that spared women and
> children.  [she didn't mention about killing unarmed
> civilians which was the only expertise the Pak army in 1971
> Bangladesh has shown.....]
>
>  
> She writes:
>  
> "Pakistan Military officers fought hard. Many
> foreign correspondents speak well of their bravery. It is
> the bravery of a Muslim soldier that Indian Military got
> tough fight. These Pakistani Mard-e-Momin
> fought so hard that they had almost regained the control of
> East Pakistan from the dirty hands of
> Mukt-Bahini. When India saw this, She then
> started the military action which resulted in the fall of Dhaka........
>
> . He (Mujib) was going to make Bangladesh part of India
> that he was killed timely by the Pakistani military officers
> (yes those Bengalis who never gave up allegiance to
> Pakistan. I stand in honor for them).  ......
> "
>
> Do you approve this analysis by Sarmila Bose, Mister
> Md. Aminul Islam Raj ?
>  
> The "Hurrah"s for Samila Bose's biased
>  "research" in Pakistan is understandable
> ....
>  
> But, I wonder why few people in
> Bangladesh,  masquerading
> as patriolts are
> so delighted while she is demeaning and lowering our
> people's war of independence
>  (1971) ????
>  
> Mister Aminul Islam Raj, You have asked
> "why
>  not the list of shaheeds of our war of liberation? Do
> u think it a matter of shame too?  "
> You are right on this .... Why there is no list of
> Shaheeds? Does Bangladesh Army has one, which is the most
> organised force in our country?  We even have a
> "Mukti Juddh" ministry...
> Most of our political parties (in 4-party jote and
> 14-party jote) in all sides of aisles were in
> power for last 40 years .... No one has prepared the
> list of shaheeds in our liberation war ..
>  
> [FYI, neither Ms Sarmila Bose nor the Fakistani elites
> agrees that it was our war of
> liberation  . they call it Indian invasion :
> Indo-Pak war..... ]
>  
>
> PS:
> We can always debate on the exact numbers,
>  but  the bottom line is:
> in 1971 Pakistan Army committed Genocide
> and Mass-rape in occupied
> Bangladesh  ...
> Do you disagree ?
>  
> Thanks for your patience
>  
> Syed Aslam
>  
>   
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011
> at 1:27 AM, Md. Aminul Islam <aminul_islam_raj@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mr Aslam(is it ur real
> name?),
> for years  i see your postings in
> groups.It seems you are a professional writer.It is also
> clear that you are on regorus studies on n about Sarmil
> bose.Pls contact  her you will get all that u ask from
> me.
>
> Mr
> Aslam, u n ur gong can turn rajaker into muktijodha and
> muktijodha into rajaker.
> This
> time u will able to make sarmila Bose a rjaker.
>  I  went through article
> where  her emotion about our liberation war  and
> victory reveald.
> mr aslam ,u n ur gong  r trying to
> distort the history of our war of liberation.
> We have our victory 40 years ago. But
> your attitude towards it  is its a event of
> yesterday.
> so
> far we hear that around 2 lac women was raped during the war
> by pak army.but one shirin akhter in Tv talk shaw said thet
> itr is 4 lac. It is noted that there is no survey.so one can
> cite any figure.
>
> Pm Sk
> hasina said in the perliament that there was no list
> of women raped by pak army as it is a mater of shame for the
> women.
> Question arises why  not the list of shaheeds
> of our war of liberation? Do u think it a matter of shame
> too?
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Syed_Aslam3
> <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
>
> To: khabor@yahoogroups.com;
> notun Bangladesh <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>
>
> Sent: Mon, March 14,
> 2011 12:05:40 AM
> Subject:
> [notun_bangladesh] Re: [KHABOR] Re:Protest against Sarmila
> Bose's book event on March 15th ...... 
> Mr Md. Aminul Islam Raj has
> resorted to a purely bullshit propaganda
> ....
> Where did he find "Sarmila Bose is one
> them who dreamt of an  Independent country of Bangla
> speaking people" .......? Can Md. Aminul Islam Raj cite
> a single reference that supports Mr. Md.
> Aminul Islam Raj's contention
> .....
>
>  
> As always Sarmila Bose (born
> July 4, 1959, Boston, Massachusetts) has
> been defending the
> Pakistan army's attrocities in 1971 occupied Bangladesh
> ......since early
> 2000s .....
>
>  
> The main theme of her writing
> is to establish "courageous
> Pak
> army stand on the eastern front
> ..." and undermine our War of Liberation in
> every possible
> way through foul means" - Her
> writtings are full of factual errors ...
>
>
> "Sarmila Bose, says the
> Pakistan army personnel did not rape Bengali women 
> ..."
>  
> No way, Sarmila Bose has never
> wanted a real Independent Bangladesh or a dreamer of
> an  Independent country of Bangla
> speaking people ...... The war mongers and the hyanas of Pakistan Army are
> very delighted to find a so-called researcher like Sarmila Bose
> ...... Many hidden pro-Pakistanis in Bangladesh
> who masquerade themselves as Partiotic
> Bangladeshi/real
> Bangladeshi  are also delighted  to
> find Sarmila Bose.
>
>  
> BTW, Samila Bose is related to
> Sarat Chandra Bose who jointly with Husayan
> Shahid Shrawardy
> demanded Greater Bengal as a seperate political entity in
> 1946, but was opposed
> by both Muslim League and Hindu Mohashova and part of 
> congress as well
> ....
>
>  
> I wonder if the Bangladeshi
> bloggers who are trying to glorify Sarmil Bose really
> supports her version
> of history of our War of Independence 
> ?????????????
>
>  
> I would request Mr. Md. Aminul
> Islam Raj to do some homework before he makes
> the kind remark
> like " Sarmila Bose
> is one them who dreamt of an  Independent
> country of Bangla speaking people not a
> prodesh" ....
>
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Syed
> Aslam
>
>
>  
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011
> at 12:52 AM, Md. Aminul Islam <aminul_islam_raj@yahoo.com>
> wrote
>
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>  Sarmila
> Bose is one them who dreamt of an  Independent
> country of Bangla speaking people not a"
> prodesh" of india or a state very loyal to india.
> Sayed
> Aslam is the name of a watchdog of the interests
> India and pro indians in Bangladesh,who is very much
> sincere  and careful about his job.
> As Sarmila
> Bose wants a real Independent Bangladesh pro indians
> in Bangladesh dislike her.
> aminul islam
> From: Syed_Aslam3
> <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
>
> To: khabor@yahoogroups.com;
> notun Bangladesh <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>
>
> Sent: Sat,
> March 12, 2011 1:04:31 AM
> Subject:
> [KHABOR] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on
> March 15th ......
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> "Ms. Sharmila Bose in her paper
> entitled “Losing the Victims: Problems of Using Women
> as Weapons in Recounting the Bangladesh War paints a
> bright picture of the Pakistani military as a disciplined
> force that spared women and children.
>
> She writes:
> During my field research on several
> incidents in East Pakistan during 1971, Bangladeshi
> participants and eyewitnesses described battles, raids,
> massacres and executions, but told me that women were not
> harmed by the army in these events except by chance such as
> in crossfire. The pattern that emerged from these incidents
> was that the Pakistan Army targeted adult males while
> sparing women and children.
>
>  
> Ms. Sharmila Bose's main source
> of information is the Hamoodur Rahman commission
> was constituted by Pakistan Government to investigate the
> the military and political causes of the country's
> defeat in the 1971 war.
>
>  
> Ms Sarmila Bose satutes the Pakistan
> Army and declares in her writing  that
> "The courageous Pakistan
> Army stand on the eastern front"
> One of her main contention
> is that there has been no mass-rape
> of Bangalee women by the
> Pakistan Army .......
>  
> [FYI,
>  
>
> During 1971 mass
> rape of Bangladeshi women by the occupying
> Pakistani Army was a
> systematic official
> policy:  Infamous General
> Niazi shamelessly defended the rapists by
> declaring :
> "You cannot
> expect a man to live, fight and die in East
> Pakistan and go to
> Jhelum for sex,
> would
> you?� 
>
> ref:
> http://ppc1971.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/1st-page-gen-1.pdf
>  
> [Also see:  http://www.dukandar.com/endgame.html ]
>  
>  
> Pakistani soldiers had not
> only violated Bengali women on the spot; they abducted
>
> tens of hundreds and
> held them by force in their military
> barracks for nightly use. The women were kept naked to prevent
> their suicide or escape.  These
> rapes were systematic and
> pervasive and was a conscious army
> policy,
> planned by the Yahia
> Regime........
>
>  
> (more
> LATER)
>  
> Syed
> Aslam
>
>  
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011
> at 10:43 PM, mahboob hossain <mahboob987@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> Dear All,
> Thank you everybody for your feeling for motherland. I also
> have seen the war of independence and my house was close to
> BDR. I was 10 years old then. Once (on 4th of December in
> 1971) I was about to kill by Pakistani army near Azimpur.
> What I want to tell that we should love our country and
> freedom fighters. But we should not distort the history. 3
> million people died during the war  is absurd. At that
> time there were 7.5 crore people in the country and if 3
> million people were died, there would have shahid in every
> family. Some of my relatives including my brother were
> freedom fighter and I found only two persons of my maternal
> side relatives were killed by Pakistani army and none from
> paternal side.27, 000 women  were raped this may
> be true,
>
>
> I have heard about Sarmila Bose but did not have
> opportunity to read what she said. Can anybody help?
>
> What I want to emphasize that too many people are doing
> business with the history of war of independence and
> claiming themselves freedom fighters. I am not politically
> biased but one thing I must say what I have seen after war
> of independence shocked me very much. People did the same
> crime like that of Pakistani army and rajakars and
> government practically did not take any action. AL people
> killed, raped and looted the properties of people. For this
> reason I found many freedom fighters burnt their
> certificates, What chatra league is doing is very much the
> activities like that of rajakars. Too many AL people are now
> grabbing rivers, lands of poor farmers and so on. Many poor
> farmers had to give up their lands because they could not
> pay 150 percent interest of joddar and mohajon. Grameen bank
> came forward to save them and it is largely successful with
> few exceptions but unfortunately Yunus was removed. Let us
> see which Awamu sycophants become MD of GB and allow looting
> of money of the poor.
>
> You may tell BNP activists do the same, I do not disagree
> and I hate them as well but they do not brand themselves as
> sole agents of independence what AL does. In this way AL is
> insulting freedom fighters more than BNP.
>
>
> Now many people using false certificate of freedom fighters
> to get job.
> My question is that how long we will continue insulting
> freedom fighters
>
> Mahboob Hossain
> Dhaka
>
> --- On Thu, 3/10/11, Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Syed_Aslam3
> <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
> Subject: [KHABOR] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book
> event on March 15th
>
> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com,
> "Khobor" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>,
> "notun Bangladesh" <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>
>
> Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 9:09 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
> Mr. Helal
>
> You have
> said:
>  
> "Pls accept
> my sincere apology if I hurt you with this
> mail."
>  
> Wah
> !!!!! What a pretention .....
>  
> You
> have already proved through your innuendeos who you are .....
> and
> where
> are you comming from ..... You tried your best to
> divert from the
> main
> thread
> (protest against Sarmila Bose ) by mixing up
> issues...
>  
> It is
> not an isolated phenomenon that you are now getting
> congratulatory salutes
> from
> well
> know quarters who masquerade themselves as
> patriots...........
> [Patriotism is the
> last refuge of a scoundrel .....]
>  
> The
> mass killing (genocide) and mass rape in 1971 was a official
> policy of the
> Pakistani
> occupation regime ... and those were one the worst
> genocide and
> mass-rape in human
> history ...... Do you want to white-wash the
> 1971-Pakistani
> attrocities by
> disputing the numbers .... Is that your tactics to
> absolve  the
> worst
> criminals, (Pakistani occupation regime and
> the accessories/collaborators 
> viz.
> Al-Bodor/-Razaker-Al-shams gangs) of their
> guilts?
>  
> Undoubtly, Sarmila
> Bose is a distortionist and falsifier of history
> ...
> She
> must be exposed and protested ....
>  
> In My
> Lai Massacre in Vietnam (1968) mass murder
> of unarmed
> 347â€"504   civilians.was conducted by an
> unit of the US Army.
> Pakistan Army has
> conducted thousands of My Lai Ty Massacre in
> Bangladesh during
> their occupation in 1971 as their official policy.. Most
> villages
> and
> towns of Bangladesh have
> witnessed those mass-murders &
> mass-rapes.....!!!!!
>  
>  
> Syed
> Aslam
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:56 PM, anis.ahmed@netzero.com
> <anis.ahmed@netzero.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Mr. Helal
> Ahmed:
>  
> You're a real Bangladeshi. I
> salute you for your true feelings and courageous
> voice for Bangladesh and for the people of
> Bangladesh. My hats off for your logical
> expressions without any fear of dangers from near or short
> distant enemies.
>
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Anis Ahmed, Maryland 
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Assalamualikum
> Dear Dr. Nuran Nabi.
>  
> My
> name is Helal Ahmed and i born in 1970. I’m very
> proud of you as a living Freedom fighter as I’m proud
> of my Father-in-law and late father. You and my
> Father-in-law faced the bullet in the forefront and my
> late father fought the war in a different way. I wish I was
> born at that time to do the same. I understand your
> sentiment towards 1971.
>
> What i
> don't understand is that in this forum, i do not see you
> or any other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or
> thousands of innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian
> border force.
>
>  
> I
> guess you and some of the Freedom fighters fought the war
> against Pakistan not for
> Bangladesh. If you fought
> for Bangladesh, than i should
> have seen your anger against the Felani killer just the way
> you showed your anger towards Pakistani
> murderers.
>
>  
> Also,
> in our 1971 war, 3 million people didn’t die. The
> mentioned number was a slip of tongue by Bongobondhu. And
> people are Bangladesh can’t even
> talk about it as they might be labeled as Razakar. For the
> sake of new generation, it is your duty to tell the
> truth.
>
>  
> Pls
> accept my sincere apology if I hurt you with this mail. As a
> generation after 1970, I’m just tired of seeing
> Bangladeshis keep talking about old enemy and being mum of
> new enemy.
>
>  
> FYI,
> as you are, I also want the trial of 1971 war criminals. But
> I don’t think our neighboring country want this issue
> to be resolved as this the only way to keep Bangladesh divided and let
> us in fighting. See, people like you and me, living in
> different countries, from completely different generations,
> still wasting our time to argue over something which should
> have been solved 40 years ago.
>
>  
> I’m very
> much in doubt that current AL government will
> complete the trial. After the five long years, they will say
> they have to come back to power again to finish the
> trial.
>
>  
> Thanks
> in advance for your understanding.
>  
> Helal
> --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Nuran Nabi
> <nurannabi@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book
> event on March 15th
>
> To: alapon@yahoogroups.com,
> "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>
>
> Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:42 PM
> I would appreciate if you post this in your group
>
> ---------- Forwarded message
> ----------
> From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
>
> Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM
> Subject: Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on
> March 15th
> To: mike.vandusen@wilsoncenter.org
>
>
>
>
> Mr. Mike Van Dusen
> Executive Vice President of the Woodrow
> Wilson Center for Internatio​nal
> Scholars
>  
> Dear Mr. Van Dusen,
>  
>
> It is with great dismay I tell you
> that you have organized an event with a controversial writer
> Sarmila Bose in the month of March which is the
> 40th  anniversary of the beginning of Bangladesh
> genocide 1971 where 3 million people were killed, 200
> thousand women were raped, 10 million people were forced to
> become refugees to lead a sub-human life during 9 months of
> the war..
>
>  
> These crimes against humanity
> are well documented including a book by USA Consul General
> in Dhaka Late Mr. Archer Blood and a report by Late Senator
> Edward Kennedy.
>  
> Sarmila Bose's book event on March
> 15  is an insult to the victims of Bangladesh
> genocide.
>  
> I am a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh
> liberation war and a witness to the crimes against humanity
> perpetrated by the Pakistani military and their Bengali
> collaborators.  I have written several books on
> Bangladesh liberation war. My latest book Bullets of
> '71- A Freedom Fighter's Story describes
> Bangladesh genocide committed by the Bangladesh war
> criminals. (See my website www.nurannabi.com to know
> more about Bangladesh genocide )
>
>  
> After 40 years, trial of the Bangladesh
> war criminals just has started. Since then Bangladesh war
> criminals and their supporters have started orchestrated
> campaign to misinform and mislead the world opinion
> regarding the extent of Bangladesh genocide. Sarmila Bose is
> a part of that grand scheme.
>
>  
> Sarmila Bose and others
> are promoting their hidden agenda in a very subtle
> way to protect the Bangladesh war criminals. Its irony that
> she is using organization like Woodrow Wilson Center in the
> USA capital to misguide the opinion maker.
>
>  
> You must stop this event which is a
> heinous design of the Bangladesh war criminals. You should
> allow to let people know the truth about Bangladesh war
> crimes which Ms Bose is trying to hide and protect the war
> criminals.
>
>  
> I am walling to present evidence for
> the crimes against humanity in Bangladesh in 1971
> perpetrated by Pakistani military and their Bengali
> collaborators based on my new book.
>  
> I would appreciate if you invite me to
> the event to counter Ms. Bose's misleading conclusion
> and allow me tell the truth to the
> audience. 
>   
> Looking forward to hearing from
> you.
>  
> Regards,
> Nuran Nabi, PhD
> Councilman of
> Plainsboro Township, NJ
> and a Freedom Fighter
> of Bangladesh Liberation war
> Tel: 609 529
> 5065
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