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Saturday, October 27, 2007

Re: [chottala.com] War criminal or fundamentalist? How and when to get the Jamatis?Why did not they do trial against the War Criminals

Present CTG may form a special tribunal court for doing trial after proper investigation against the political leaders who were in power during last 36 years.
Why did not they do trial against the War Criminals??

innovation_line <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
War criminal or fundamentalist? How and when to get the Jamatis?
Policy-makers as well as general population should make a distinction between the two issues. More important is that not to be distracted from the main job at hand.
 
Today while listening to Suranjit Sengupta, an hypothetical story came to mind that may unfold in Bangladesh near future. We should remind that this is the same Suranjit Sengupta who used to be the parliamentary adviser for Sheikh Hasina. During last fifteen years, all the advice that he gave to his leader is how to stay out of parliament (when in opposition) or how to make the parliament ineffective while in ruling party. So, the competence and the amount of gray material shows in his history. Whatever the gray material is there, we think, it is so corrupt that nobody should expect something out of there with a good intention. So, when we hear a big maya-kanna for justice for war criminals and fundamentalists from the CTG, that makes us to think what actually is behind these. Here is the hypothetical story:
"Govt. vows to the pressure of trying the war criminals, even though they think it is an undue or at least an ill-intentioned pressure. However, a commission is created based on the international law and based on local existing laws. The focus of the govt.machinery diverts from the existing resources to the war crimes tribunal because they will seem more difficult to prove in the courts - since those are much older cases than the current cases. Since government had to involve itself into the war tribunals before concluding the existing special tribunal, so it has to adjust the priorities. Govt. at last manage to get some of the war criminals and make them face the justice. In the meantime, both Khaleda and Hasina and their collaborators comes out of jail since they were no longer the focus of the government. The nation seems to be happy.
In the election, one of the party forms government. However, in five years time, the two main parties are courting again the other two parties (Jamat and Jatiyo Party) to form coalition."
Thus, the history starts to unravel itself upon us again!
This is the kind of history that these AL and BNP culprits want to recreate for us. Government should not listen to these demands, rather they should focus on their jobs at hand. Finishing the current job NOW is much more important.
Are we saying that the demand for trying war criminals are not justified?
No, we would not say that. But those who are demanding it right now, have a bad intention. They are trying to get out of the cages by creating a chaos. That should not be allowed to happen.
What do we suggest that should be followed to try the war criminals, eventually?
What should we do about fundamentalist politics in Bangladesh?
If you really push for an answer, here are two options.
1. Govt. should take the time until December 2008, to make sure that the planned election is held on time. In parallel, it should continue the legal proceedings and actions of task force and ACC should continue to make sure that a level playing field is created as best as possible. During this time, government should also encourage the new and existing political parties to engage in a dialogue to reach a national consensus on these two issues. This consensus should be made among the major parties that represent good majority of the population (supported by the field level surveys).
Once such a consensus is reached. Govt. can try one thing. It should encourage the political parties to form an election platform out of this consensus and push for a coalition government after a successful election. The elected government can proceed to make policies regarding the two important issues. If the government can not encourage a strong enough election platform, then, only then the second option might be considered.
2. In the case of a successful execution of all the existing cases of corruption and successful completion of task force activities, one year from now (October 2008), the CTG should convene to see the state of political dialogue on the two major issues - i.e. to discuss the issues of war crimes in 1971 and how the nation should deal with fundamentalist issues. If they do not feel that the national consensus hasn't reached yet and they have enough resources to engage, they might talk to the parties involved whether the national election can be pushed toward the end of 2009 ( i.e. instead of December 2008, elections will be held by December 2009). If such an environment existed at that time, it may proceed with the second option.
If an important job like the issue of war crimes has been left alone by Hasina, Khaleda and Ershad for last 27 years, the nation can wait another year to see that happen.
The willingness to wait for another year would also prove the politicians' seriousness about the demand. Also, if these politicians can depend on this CTG for such an important national job which they failed to do so far, they should also stop acting like opposition parties to the CTG. The political parties should at least suspend all the alleged criminals from their respective parties, which suspention might be temporary at the moment. The final verdict from the courts may make the suspensions permanent. These steps should be taken to show their seriousness. Unless, the nation would always think that all these are just show to get their Mokkhiranis out of jain. Public re eto boka vaba thik na.
The time until December 2008 is necessary to make sure that we do not loose what we have achieved so far during last one year. It has already been suggested. CTG should not complicate their work now.
Even if you do not try those war criminals, which was the case until 1/11 happened, don't worry much about those. The next generation leadership will do that - for sure. You guys just make sure that the economic conditions are right for the vibrant growth of a strong middle class out of this next generation. We will accomplish the untouched job of yours in our lifetime. If you listen to those Suranjit babus or Zillurs or Motias or Menons or Selims now, there is an every possibility that our history will laugh at us once more. We do not want that to happen again. Let us take our time to make sure that we do not waste more time.
If enough patience and planning is not used to achieve what is needed, all will be squandered just like the way success was squandered after the 1990. Can you imagine, both Hasina and Khaleda are vying for electoral alliance with Ershad in 17 years time! For those of us who were teenagers during the 1990, it really hurts to think how a nation can be bluffed and fooled by the politicians.
Do not let them to do it with this Jamat issue again. We are ready to go slow, but not ready to miss the train this time.
If you thought some of the ideas are worth of your reading time, please forward it to others. If you have an ear to the members of the CTG, policy makers and lawyers, please forward it to them. If you have an ear to the journalists and news editors of the electronic media, discuss it with them. Hope they would look at the suggestions and give due diligence.
Thanks for your time,
Innovation Line
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We have not seen the Liberation War, but we know if we can free the country from corruption first, we will eventually get to other dreams soon. Because of corruption, we could not even get into information highway for years, let alone other dreams!
This is the kind of article for which we started this column. Because of ongoing mess, a gift from our older generation, we often get diverted. Now that it seems some sanity is returning in Bangladesh, we would try to go back to our original plan.
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[chottala.com] Arbitrary arrest of Journalist & Human Rights Defender by the RAB in Rajshahi

 
A Prominent Human Rights Defender & Journalist at Rajshahi in Bangladesh Arbitrary Arrested by the Rapid Action Battalion (RAB) Without Warrant of Arrest

Name of the Victim: Mr. Jahangir Alam Akash, the coordinator of the Task Force against Torture (TFT), Rajshahi city; the regional coordinator of the Bangladesh Institute of Human Rights (BIHR) in Rajshai Region; the bureau chief of the TV news channel CSB News and the daily Bengali news paper Daily Sangbad & also general Secretary of Journalist.
Address of the victim: 55/2, Housing Estate, Upashahar, Rajshahi, Bangladesh
Date & Time of Arrest: 23 October 2007 (Mid-nights, ) around 02.00am (24 October 2007)
Arrested by: Rapid Action Battalion (RAB)-5 personnel, Rajshahi region, (Civil dressed).

Fact in Brief:
On 23 October 2007 midnight at 1.30.am, a group (10/12 members) of civil dressed Rapid Action Battalion (RAB)-5 personnel came to rented house of Mr. Jahangir Alam Akash at 55/2, Housing Estate, Upashahar in Rajshahi and pressed the switch of all calling bell in that building. Hearing the sound of calling bell, the son of the owner of the building named Ripon (26) came out and said the RAB personnel and asked their identity and causing their coming the building? But they refused to disclose their identity and cause of coming, rather busted in angry and shouted to open the main collapsed door quickly as well as urging filthy language. Being afraid, when he opened the main collapsed door they entered in to the building and started to beat him for his being late to open door. Thereafter they knocked at the door of Jahangir Alam Akash. When wife of Mr. Akash named Farhana Sharmin asked their identity and cause of their coming, at first they refused to disclose their identity and cause of coming. When the wife of Mr. Akash, Farhan Sharmin said them if they did not disclose their identity and cause of coming, she would not open the door then they try to break the door lock to enter the flat. Thereafter they disclosed that they are the members of Rapid Action Battalion (RAB)-5. Thy also said that they came in to knowledge through reliable source that there are some arms in this house and they would search the house. When Mr. Akash's wife again asked them to show search warrant they replied they have search warrant issued by the concern court. Then his wife called around 6 numbers of her neighbors as witness and opened the door. When she opened the door they stormed the room and grabbed Mr. Jahangir Alam Akash and started to slap him as well as using filthy language and directed him to go with them. Their after they put him hand cap and tied his head (Eye, nose, ear, mouth) with black cloth and lifted him in their van and took at their cam.

Cause of Arrest:
Farhana Sharmin, wife of Mr. Jahangir Alam Akash think that due to broad casting news on different abuses of power by the RAB-5 and other corrupted persons on private TV channel and daily news paper the alleged RAB personnel and other persons were aggrieved with him. For this reason to take revenge and give punishment they arrested him.

Previous incident:
On 02 may 2007, a team of the Rapid Action Battalion went to the alleged criminal house in city of Rajshahi. The RAB shot at the person in the bedroom in front of his wife and young daughter. The CSB News a private TV channel broadcasted the news of this attempted extra-judicial ki9lling by the RAB tem in the news bulletin at 1.00 am and at 2.00 am on May 03, of 2007. The wife of the bullet-injured person accused the RAB for shooting on her husband before the TV camera.

On the evening of May 03 of 2007 at 5 9.33 pm, a person called to Mr. Akash on his cell phone from another cell phone (Number+88017140494 31). The caller introduced him himself as Major Rashidul Hasan Rashid, an officer of the rab-5that works in Rajshahi region and asked why Mr. Akash broadcasted the news of RAB's operation over the TV channel. The RAB officer warned Mr. Akash, that if he failed to give an appropriate answer to his question then he must not forget the possible consequences for the job. The roaring army officer also asked whether Mr. Akash new a reason why the other TV channels, except the CSB News avoided the report on the particular incident. Major Rashid also accused MR. Akash broadcasted the report intentionally and threate3nded that if any person representative the CSB News or Mr. Akash himself makes any further attempt to enter in to the area of RAB's activities, then the RAB will take action against him and his colleagues. The army officer termed the news broadcasting as an "anti-state activities". Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC), Hong Kong issued Urgent Appeal regarding this on 05 May and 24 July 2007. For further details please see- (www.ahrchk . net) UA-149-2007 & Re: UA-149-2007.

Beside this, on 28 August 2007, Mr. Akash was been implicated in an extortion charge lodged by Mr. Mahfuzul Alam Loton, the vice president of the Awami League of the Rajshahi City Unit, at the Boalia police station of the Rajshahi Metropolitan Police (RMP) on 20 June 2007 (Reference: General Diary No. 1160). In his complaint, Mr. Loton alleges that Mr. Akash extorted Taka 20,000 (USD 300) from him in presence of his two friends through intimidation and threats of broadcasting news on CSB News channel.

In his first information report, Mr. Loton's allegation against Mr. Akash, on 13 April 2007, Mr. Loton was talking with his two friends, one businessman Mr. Ziaul Haque Tuku and one Bangladesh Awami League leader Mr. Asaduzzaman Asad, while sitting in an open field near the "Safawang Chinese Restaurant" at Kadirganj area of the city. The restaurant is located in the same building where the CSB News channel's office is in. Mr. Akash accompanying two unknown persons then approached him and claimed Taka 50,000 (USD 750) through intimidation. Mr. Loton then finally gave him Taka 20,000 (USD 300). Mr. Loton alleged that Mr. Akash claimed Taka 30,000 (USD 450) more in exchange for not publishing news against Mr. Loton regarding his corruption in "Delwar Hossain Waqf Estate; his father was the caretaker of this property. Mr. Loton also alleges that Mr. Akash however broadcast a report about his family property after this and on 6 June 2007, he requested Mr. Loton to pay the remaining Taka 30,000 at the same place.

However, Mr. Akash strongly insists that Mr. Loton's complaint against him is completely false and Mr. Loton made such complaint against him because he had published a number of reports in the media detailing the misdeeds of Mr. Loton.
On 4 March 2000, Mr. Akash published a report in the Daily Sangbad regarding the alleged harassment of a family by Mr. Loton and his men due to a family feud. The family members were allegedly confined in the house, while receiving continuous threats from Mr. Loton's men. The article revealed that the police have not taken any action against Mr. Loton and his men regarding this incident. 

Mr. Akash also reports that due to this report, Mr. Loton's men attempted to kill him on 6 March 2006, but killed another journalist Mr. Uttam Kumar Das by mistake. The killing took place in front of a commercial telefax shop in Rajshahi city from where Mr. Akash and other journalists used to send their news to their respective media. Mr. Akash then lodged a General Diary (GD) No. 310 with the Boalia police station on 7 March 2000 against Mr. Loton regarding this incident.

Mr. Akash also reports that Mr. Loton extorted Taka 30,000 (USD 450) from a businessman using his (Mr. Akash) name in 2003. Mr. Akash published a report regarding this incident in the Daily Sangbad on 19 January 2003.

Besides, Mr. Akash recently broadcasted another report on the alleged illegal and malpractices in "Delwar Hossain Waqf Estate" property of which Loton's father late Mr. Abdus Samad was the caretaker for a long time. As a result, the government's concerned department changed the caretaker of the said property.
Also, on 25 April 2007, Mr. Akash broadcasted a report in the CSB News regarding the alleged grabbing of the estates of the trusted boards. This report also covered the story of Mr. Loton's father's trusted properties.

At that time Mr. Akash suspected that the RAB might use Mr. Loton to harass him, as his news channel has been broadcasting on the alleged torture and extrajudicial killings committed by the RAB personnel. For example, on 16 May 2007, a report was aired in the CSB News on the RAB's brutality on jail police Mr. Shahebul Islam in the Rajshahi Medical College Hospital, while on May 18, the CSB News aired another report on the death of Mr. Kamrul Islam Majnu Sheikh, who was allegedly tortured to death by the RAB personnel after being kidnapped.  

After knowing the information of filing case against him, Mr. Jahangir Alam Akash suited an ad-interim bail petition before the high court of the supreme court and On 16 October 2007, after hearing the petition, the learned justice Mr. A.F. M. Abdur Rahman of vacancy timed bench granted an ad-interim bail of Mr. Akash till 28 October 2007 and also order after Eid vacancy while the High court will begin its regular activities, the regular hearing of this petition will be held before the regular bench of High Court Bench of the Supreme Court.

In the mean time on 23 October 2007, Mr. Akash submitted a petition before the Chief of the army and Secretary of the home ministry appealing to conduct impartial investigation regarding to extortion against him.

Here especially mentioned that Mr. Loton and his two friends Mr. Asad and Mr. Tuku have been working as the RAB's source. As far as we confirmed with local sources, Mr. Loton goes for fishing along with Major Mr. Rashid of the RAB-5, who allegedly intimidated Mr. Akash on phone for broadcasting the news of the attempted extrajudicial killing of one terrorist suspect Mr. Benazir Ahammed at his home on 2 May 2007.Asian Human Rights Commission issued Urgent Appeal in this regards. For details of this case, please see urgent appeals: UP-101-2007, UA-149-2007
 
 
 
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[chottala.com] A liar and a falsifier of history : Bangladesh Genocide denial by another Jamaati apologist

 
 
 
A liar and a falsifier of history :  Bangladesh Genocide denial by another Jamaati apologist
This is the same S.A.Hannan who regularly post items from Asia posts in Khabor  forum.
He is a  life long Jamaati-activist, a collaborator of Yahia-Tikka regime and a promoter of
neo-Yazidi political Islam.  It is no surprize that he has now joined Jamaat's latest develish
maneauvers.
 
Visit his latest blog in this forum:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/khabor/message/5712
 
The mass killings in Bangladesh is the most concentrated act of genocide in the twentieth century.  In an attempt to crush forces seeking independent Bangladesh.
the Pakistani military regime unleashed a systematic campaign of mass murder aimed at killing millions of Bengalis in 1971.
Bengali man and boys massacred by the West Pakistani regime. Bengali intellectuals murdered and dumped at dockside in Dacca.
 
 
There was no genocide; it was a 'civil war'
Claims Shah A Hannan

 
Known Jamaat-sympathiser and former Islami Bank chairman Shah Abdul Hannan has described the Liberation War of 1971 as a "civil war". He denied that genocide took place in the country at that time and that war criminals exist here.

Speaking on a talk show, Ekushey Shomoy, on private satellite television channel Ekushey Television on Friday, Hannan also expressed doubts that three million people died in the war and supported a Pakistani report according to which only 26,000 people or less died during the Liberation War.

The following is a transcript of his comments made on the talk show:

DENIAL OF WAR CRIMES
At the Simla Conference between India and Pakistan, Pakistani soldiers were released as war prisoners, not war criminals. So, I am in agreement with [Jamaat-e-Islami secretary general Ali Ahsan Mohammad] Mojaheed that there are no war criminals in the country.

There was an Awami League government until 1975 and there was another Awami League government in 1996, under which I worked as a secretary and I was even close to the administration. But they never thought of trying war criminals. Another major party BNP was in power during the rule of Ziaur Rahman and later came to power thrice, and at no point did they try to hold trials of the war criminals.

Since no one is making any claim and there are no cases filed with the court--Bangladesh government is the entity that can file a case and has never filed a case against anyone--I will continue to say there are no war criminals in this country until the government files a case against anyone.

CIVIL WAR, NOT LIBERATION WAR
I frankly think it was a liberation war but it was also a civil war not only in the sense that it was between West and East Pakistan but also because it was a fight between political forces supporting a untied Pakistan and an independent Bangladesh.

If they can prove that these things [war crimes] were done in 1971, let them take it to court. The constitution mentions that Bangladesh was created through a liberation war--yes, it is true. But plenty of people say it was a civil war.

I know this much that in 1971 there was a civil war...Fine, it was also a Muktijuddha...From what I have read in foreign newspapers and encyclopaedia, it was a civil war and most people did not call it a "struggle for freedom". But there is no doubt that it was a genuine freedom fight by the people of Bangladesh. It was an excitable time and the population was also more or less divided. So, those who thought at that time that it was not right to break up Pakistan with the help of India held the view that they should stay on the side of the then Pakistan administration politically, not for violence. The other side thought they should unite with India to gain independence. There were a lot of excesses back then--not only members of one community died--Hindus died, Muslims died, Biharies died, Bangalees died, wives died, children died, women died, men died...And the number, I do not know anything about three million deaths. There was no survey in 1972, not in 1974, and never. That is why these numbers are allowed to be mentioned. I urge the current government to conduct a survey so this problem is solved. It is not right to ask this to the caretaker government, ask this to the next elected government.

Bangalees were on both the sides, involved in the events before December 16, 1971. You have to judge in that political context. I think those who were against the idea of Bangladesh have shifted from that position. A lot of them are my good friends--they are patriotic, they defend Bangladesh, they are in a struggle to build Bangladesh and protect it from the attacks of other countries.

REACTION TO NIZAMI'S 1971 REMARKS
Genocide is a matter of definition. Not everything is genocide. The United Nations has not called this genocide. We can call this genocide or whatever. Nizami could clarify his own quotes. But I know in the context of 1971, there was a civil war...and another war between India and Pakistan. Both Razakars and collaborators were killed as well as freedom fighters. It was a struggle between ethnic and political forces...Bangalees and Biharis were also fighting each other. So, it was not genocide. This is my personal opinion.

HAMOOD-UR-RAHMAN COMMISSION REPORT
[The commission was formed with the then Pakistan Supreme Court Chief Justice Hamood-ur-Rahman as the head to ascertain the facts of the 1971 debacle. It reported that 26,000 people or less died in the war.]

I cannot ignore the findings because he was a Bangalee, a judge of the High Court and the chief justice of the Supreme Court. But, it is our fault that the governments during the rule of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, Sheikh Hasina and Khaleda Zia did not conduct a survey. Wise men are still here who can still say how many people died in which village. Sheikh Mujib first said one million and then said 30 million and he is quoted in encyclopaedias. But they also did not conduct surveys. The truth needs to come out and the government needs to conduct a survey.

The matter of war criminals' right to participate in politics...Well, if they are found guilty, then they have no right to form a party, fine. But, until they are not proven guilty of war crimes they can...But, if they are proven guilty, do not let them form parties, imprison them, hang them, if you need to.

RELIGION-BASED POLITICS
Islam is not simply a religion, it is a life system. You can say about secularism...Sheikh Mujib himself established the Islamic Foundation and the Quran was also recited on the radio during the Liberation War, Allahu Akbar was mentioned several times during airing.

Denying a religion-based political party will be denying the democratic process and the constitution. No democracy can ban a religion-based party.

Religion-based politics...has never been banned in the sub-continent. The Muslim League and the Jamaat-e-Islami India were banned in India but they were cleared by the court.

Bangladeshi Islamic parties have been in existence since 1975. According to the constitution, if any party has any right to be formed, it is the Islamic parties. It is a democratic constitution, not just a large Islamic constitution, and no party can be banned under a democratic constitution, not in England, not anywhere else.
 

 
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[chottala.com] Fwd: Ahmed Ali for Gaithersburg City Council



Ahmed Ali <ahmed1919@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ahmed Ali <ahmed1919@yahoo.com>
Subject: Ahmed Ali for Gaithersburg City Council

Dear Friends,
 
I am running as a candidate for Gaithersburg City Council.  There are a total of seven candidates running for this election, and several very solid and reputable organizations have endorsed three of the candidates, myself, Mr. Carlos Solis, and Mr. Ryan Spiegel (these candidates are Cc'd on this email)......please see that attachment.  I am happy to say that Delegate Saqib Ali has also fully endorsed the three of us, and there will be many more delegates and influential individuals in our community that will be making their endorsement for us soon.  The elections will be held on Nov. 6th.
 
As you all are very active and influential in our Asian and non-Asian community, please assist us in getting the word out to all our friends and collegues in the community that the three of us are running, and please encourage people whom you may know that live in Gaithersburg City to vote on Nov. 6th.  This is a very important election, and will set the stage for our city's future.  The three of us bring tremendous strengths, talents, experiences, vision, and diversity to this campaign, and we request not only for your vote and support, but in getting the word out.
 
If you have an opportunity, please see the Attachment in this email, and please email out this attachment to all your friends and those whom you may know in our community.  Also, you may see a few articles below to get a little more background on me and the other two candidates that I am happy to be supporting, there is also a video on one of the sites.
 
Our campaign manager is Mr. Cezar B. Lopez, he is an attorney that works for U.S Senator Harry Reid, and Mr. Lopez has accepted to be our official campaign manager.  He has tremendous political and professional experience, and has worked for various Delegates, Senators, and Courts.  We are extremely fortunate to have his support.  If you have any questions of how you can assist our campaign, please feel free to email Mr. Lopez directly, and he will be more than happy to provide guidance, strategic vision, and support.
 
In the next few weeks, there will be a tremendous effort to mail out thousands of flyers to registered voters in the city of Gaithersburg, and there will be a lot of volunteers going door to door on our behalf to get our message out.  Please assist us in getting the word out and notifying the community of our positive campaign.  Thank you, and I look forward to seeing you again soon.
 
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Candidate for Gaithersburg City Council
cell: 301-404-5567
 
 
 
 
 

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[chottala.com] War criminal or fundamentalist? How and when to get the Jamatis?

War criminal or fundamentalist? How and when to get the Jamatis?

Policy-makers as well as general population should make a distinction between the two issues. More important is that not to be distracted from the main job at hand.

 

Today while listening to Suranjit Sengupta, an hypothetical story came to mind that may unfold in Bangladesh near future. We should remind that this is the same Suranjit Sengupta who used to be the parliamentary adviser for Sheikh Hasina. During last fifteen years, all the advice that he gave to his leader is how to stay out of parliament (when in opposition) or how to make the parliament ineffective while in ruling party. So, the competence and the amount of gray material shows in his history. Whatever the gray material is there, we think, it is so corrupt that nobody should expect something out of there with a good intention. So, when we hear a big maya-kanna for justice for war criminals and fundamentalists from the CTG, that makes us to think what actually is behind these. Here is the hypothetical story:

"Govt. vows to the pressure of trying the war criminals, even though they think it is an undue or at least an ill-intentioned pressure. However, a commission is created based on the international law and based on local existing laws. The focus of the govt.machinery diverts from the existing resources to the war crimes tribunal because they will seem more difficult to prove in the courts - since those are much older cases than the current cases. Since government had to involve itself into the war tribunals before concluding the existing special tribunal, so it has to adjust the priorities. Govt. at last manage to get some of the war criminals and make them face the justice. In the meantime, both Khaleda and Hasina and their collaborators comes out of jail since they were no longer the focus of the government. The nation seems to be happy.

In the election, one of the party forms government. However, in five years time, the two main parties are courting again the other two parties (Jamat and Jatiyo Party) to form coalition."

Thus, the history starts to unravel itself upon us again!

This is the kind of history that these AL and BNP culprits want to recreate for us. Government should not listen to these demands, rather they should focus on their jobs at hand. Finishing the current job NOW is much more important.

Are we saying that the demand for trying war criminals are not justified?

No, we would not say that. But those who are demanding it right now, have a bad intention. They are trying to get out of the cages by creating a chaos. That should not be allowed to happen.

What do we suggest that should be followed to try the war criminals, eventually?

What should we do about fundamentalist politics in Bangladesh?

If you really push for an answer, here are two options.

1. Govt. should take the time until December 2008, to make sure that the planned election is held on time. In parallel, it should continue the legal proceedings and actions of task force and ACC should continue to make sure that a level playing field is created as best as possible. During this time, government should also encourage the new and existing political parties to engage in a dialogue to reach a national consensus on these two issues. This consensus should be made among the major parties that represent good majority of the population (supported by the field level surveys).

Once such a consensus is reached. Govt. can try one thing. It should encourage the political parties to form an election platform out of this consensus and push for a coalition government after a successful election. The elected government can proceed to make policies regarding the two important issues. If the government can not encourage a strong enough election platform, then, only then the second option might be considered.

2. In the case of a successful execution of all the existing cases of corruption and successful completion of task force activities, one year from now (October 2008), the CTG should convene to see the state of political dialogue on the two major issues - i.e. to discuss the issues of war crimes in 1971 and how the nation should deal with fundamentalist issues. If they do not feel that the national consensus hasn't reached yet and they have enough resources to engage, they might talk to the parties involved whether the national election can be pushed toward the end of 2009 ( i.e. instead of December 2008, elections will be held by December 2009). If such an environment existed at that time, it may proceed with the second option.

If an important job like the issue of war crimes has been left alone by Hasina, Khaleda and Ershad for last 27 years, the nation can wait another year to see that happen.

The willingness to wait for another year would also prove the politicians' seriousness about the demand. Also, if these politicians can depend on this CTG for such an important national job which they failed to do so far, they should also stop acting like opposition parties to the CTG. The political parties should at least suspend all the alleged criminals from their respective parties, which suspention might be temporary at the moment. The final verdict from the courts may make the suspensions permanent. These steps should be taken to show their seriousness. Unless, the nation would always think that all these are just show to get their Mokkhiranis out of jain. Public re eto boka vaba thik na.

The time until December 2008 is necessary to make sure that we do not loose what we have achieved so far during last one year. It has already been suggested. CTG should not complicate their work now.

Even if you do not try those war criminals, which was the case until 1/11 happened, don't worry much about those. The next generation leadership will do that - for sure. You guys just make sure that the economic conditions are right for the vibrant growth of a strong middle class out of this next generation. We will accomplish the untouched job of yours in our lifetime. If you listen to those Suranjit babus or Zillurs or Motias or Menons or Selims now, there is an every possibility that our history will laugh at us once more. We do not want that to happen again. Let us take our time to make sure that we do not waste more time.

If enough patience and planning is not used to achieve what is needed, all will be squandered just like the way success was squandered after the 1990. Can you imagine, both Hasina and Khaleda are vying for electoral alliance with Ershad in 17 years time! For those of us who were teenagers during the 1990, it really hurts to think how a nation can be bluffed and fooled by the politicians.

Do not let them to do it with this Jamat issue again. We are ready to go slow, but not ready to miss the train this time.

If you thought some of the ideas are worth of your reading time, please forward it to others. If you have an ear to the members of the CTG, policy makers and lawyers, please forward it to them. If you have an ear to the journalists and news editors of the electronic media, discuss it with them. Hope they would look at the suggestions and give due diligence.

Thanks for your time,

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Note: This is a freelance column, published mainly in different internet based forums. This column is open for contribution by the members of new generation, sometimes referred to as Gen 71. If you identify yourself as someone from that age-group and want to contribute to this column, please feel free to contact. Thanks to the group moderator for publishing the article.

We have not seen the Liberation War, but we know if we can free the country from corruption first, we will eventually get to other dreams soon. Because of corruption, we could not even get into information highway for years, let alone other dreams!

This is the kind of article for which we started this column. Because of ongoing mess, a gift from our older generation, we often get diverted. Now that it seems some sanity is returning in Bangladesh, we would try to go back to our original plan.

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[chottala.com] The denial will rewrite history soon - Rezwan's Blog

The denial will rewrite history soon

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"Now it is being said that no war criminal exists in the country. Maybe after some time it would be said that the Liberation War never took place. All this will mean we will be deprived of the real history. " - Former chief justice and chairman of the Law Commission Mostafa Kamal

Bangladeshis were outraged by the Islamist political party Jamaat-e-Islami's leader Ali Ahsan Muzahid's statement that "Jamaat did not work against the Liberation War in 1971 and there are no war criminals in the country."

Before we go dissecting the above statement this contradicts with the Jamaat leaders statement during the liberation war in 1971, in which they sided with Pakistan and aided Pakistani army to kill and rape Bangladeshis which resulted in one of the worst genocides of the world. A few excerpts:
Addressing a gathering of Razakars in Jessore, Nizami said, "Every single one of us must identify ourselves as soldiers of Islam and we have to use all our forces to destroy the people who are involved in an armed conspiracy against Pakistan and Islam," (The Daily) Sangram reported on September 15.

The next day Nizami urged his followers to "confront and reveal the true identity of the so-called Bengali-lovers".

While visiting an Al-Badr camp on September 22, Nizami said, "Only the patriotic youths of East Pakistan can effectively annihilate the Indian infiltrators and their local agents."

Golam Azam (the then Jamaat Ameer)at the party council of Kushtia district unit in the second week of August 1971 described the freedom fighters as criminals and directed the party workers to resist them. He also directed formation of Shanti Bahini (peace committee) in every village of the country. He told the meeting that very soon the Razakars, Mojaheed and police would be able to resist the "criminals", said document No. 549 (159)- PL.S(I) signed by the then home secretary MM Kazim on September 14.
Here is the background of Ali Ahsan Muzahid.

So it is a call of the time to try the proven war criminals and bring proceedings against them. This is what war heroes are demanding .

This is required because Jamaat leaders are vowing that no case have been brought against the alleged war criminals so why should people call them criminals. In 1974 a general amnesty was declared for the war criminals as people were taking law in their own hand in those times of political turmoil. Later on Jamaat as a party was rehabilitated, which still contains some of the war criminals and they are even made partners of the government.

Dr. Zia Uddin Ahmed wrote a brilliant piece in 1997 where he said about Amnesty:
Post-genocide traumatized society often has to make a dichotomous choice between two perilous options, should the perpetrators be prosecuted or should they be amnestied in the interests of national reconciliation. (Amnesty) is discriminatory application of criminal law, privileging certain defendants, which bread cynicism toward the rule of law.

States have the duty to prosecute violations of international law like genocide. Such crimes cannot be unilaterally forgiven; even a victim society cannot forgive crimes against humanity.
Zia Uddin describes in his article about ways to deal with the past and how to systematically bring the war criminals to trial.

There is another theory that Jamaat is wanting that charges are being brought against the war criminal. Because of the complicated and corrupted Judiciary and lack of evidence (after 36 years) they can get easily acquitted. So the court order will give them more power to deny the truth.

So it is imperative that the cases should be brought in international tribunals. We need our Simon Wiesenthal who hunted for the Nazis all his life.

The above video shows the student wing of Jamaat, the Islami chatro Shibir is participating in a rally posing as Muktijoddhas (freedom fighters).This is how they are changing colors.

Even some persons in Government are apologists towards them. Jamaat's Islamic militancy connection is widely known but neglected by the Government.

Some documents in public domains allege that the military intelligence in Bangladesh is subverting political process to breed a new political landscape. (Read the Washington Post's article A New Hub for Terrorism: to see the documented linkage between Jamaat and the current DGFI). "What makes future prospects in Bangladesh especially alarming is that the Jamaat and its allies appear to be penetrating the higher ranks of the armed forces. Among many examples, informed journalists in Dhaka attribute Jamaat sympathies to Maj. Gen. Mohammed Aminul Karim, recently appointed as military secretary to President Iajuddin Ahmed, and to Brig. Gen. A.T.M. Amin, director of the Armed Forces Intelligence anti-terrorism bureau".)

These are worrying signs but let me remind you the people cannot be fooled always. Well aware Bangladeshis will not let it happen that easily. The reactions I am seeing on the web is enormous. Statements like this from Jamaat will create a commotion among the public. And if people rise then the consequences will not be limited to war of words only.

Reminding you about the liberation war with this song of Joan Baez sang by a Bangladeshi:
 


 

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[chottala.com] Govt asked to try war criminals in tribunals

 
 
Govt asked to try war criminals in tribunals
 
 
Sat, Oct 27th, 2007 9:09 pm BdST

Dhaka, Oct 27 (bdnews24.com) – The fallout from Jamaat-e-Islami secretary general Ali Ahsan Mohammad Mujahid's denial of the existence of anti-liberation force and war criminal continued Saturday with a call for the government to try 1971 war criminals in special tribunals.

Talking to bdnews24.com acting president of the Ekatturer Ghatak Dalal Nirmul Committee and freedom fighter Shahriar Kabir said: "If the government wants it can start trying war criminals by forming special tribunals in line with provisions that already exist in the Bangladesh constitution."

Kabir cited Article 47 (3) of the constitution and added that military tribunals could also be employed to bring war criminals to justice with no need for any new laws to be passed in parliament.

Mujahid made the highly controversial remarks Thursday after a meeting between Jamaat-e-Islami and the Election Commission on electoral reforms at the commission's office.

Mujahid claimed there was no anti-liberation force in the country nor was there any war criminal.

"Some 191 members of the Pakistan army were identified as war criminals; the Awami League government later pardoned them. There is no anti-liberation force in the country now," added Mujahid.

Families of liberation martyrs and civil society representatives expressed their outrage at the Jamaat-e-Islami secretary general's claim.

However, law adviser Mainul Hossain has yet to comment on the public reaction to the furor.

Kabir, whose two brothers were martyred in the 1971 war, cited the trial of war criminals in Germany and Japan after the Second World War.

Speaking on behalf of the Ekatturer Ghatak Dalal Nirmul Committee, which lobbies for trial of war criminals in court, Kabir said: "Recently two countries have tried war criminals of their respective countries in military tribunals. So it must also be possible in Bangladesh."

"Those who say there are no war criminals in the country are actually denying that the liberation war happened. In this case they should be tried on charges of sedition."

"About 37,000 war criminals were arrested, and their trials were initiated on charges of war crimes under the 1972 Anti-Collaborator Act."

"Later, in 1973, at least 26,000 individuals were released as the allegations against them were not proved. The trial processes of the remaining 11,000 are still going on."

"Different courts in the country handed down sentences to about 500 war criminals following their successful trials."

"However, after the killing of Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman on August 15, 1975, a military government took power and annulled the Anti-Collaboration Act. War criminals then appealed to the High Court and were subsequently released," said Kabir.

Prof AAMS Arefin Siddique, a former president of the Dhaka University Teachers Association, said: "It's absolutely ridiculous that Jamaat-e-Islami is denying its involvement in war crimes 36 years after our independence."

"There are many documents proving their involvement. Many news articles on this issue were published in the Jamaat's mouthpiece Dainik Sangram at the time."

"The present government is carrying out many reforms. The trial of war criminals is a basic reform. They must now be tried," added Siddique.

Prof Muhammad Zafar Iqbal from Shahjalal University said: "I ask why Jamaat-e-Islami chose this time to deny their war crimes. Why did they not make these comments during the tenure of the previous governments?'

Iqbal, whose father was killed during the independence war, added: "I am astonished at their audacity. Their place is in jail."

Lawyer Barrister Shafique Ahmed said war criminals could be tried under the laws and pointed out that those who had been involved in murder, rape and arson were not covered by the general amnesty.

"Those who were pardoned had no specific allegations against them. The war criminals have not been tried because previous governments were not sincere about their trial," said Ahmed.

"If the incumbent government takes sincere steps against those with specific allegations against them the trials can start."

"There is no time bar for these criminal offences. There is no obstacle to trying them under common law as well as the Anti-collaboration Act," added Ahmed.

Dr Shushanto Kumar Das from Shahjalal University said: "Ali Ahsan Mujahid's statement is not only false, it is cheating everyone in the country. Every religion teaches that lying is a sin. It is clear to all that he lied."

After the Election Commission meeting, the Jamaat secretary general had replied to a query on his organisation's role in the 1971 war by saying: "You dig into that and evaluate."

Documents relating to the Liberation War show certain groups collaborated with the Pakistani occupation army.

They were known as the Peace Committee, Razakar, Al Badr and Al Shams forces. The present central office of the Jamaat-e-Islami, at Baro Mogh Bazar, was the Peace Committee's main office.

Al Badr and Al Shams were formed with activists from the Jamaat's student front, the Islami Chhatra Shanga. Most allegations of war crimes revolve round these two forces.

During the war, Jamaat's present Ameer Motiur Rahman Nizami was the commander of the Al-Badr force's all Pakistan committee.

During a speech in the Muslim Institute hall, Chittagong on Aug 2, 1971, Nizami said: "As Muslims failed to resolve their problems through politics, Allah is protecting His dear land through the army."

Nizami's speech was published in the Aug 5, 1971 issue of Jamaat's mouthpiece Dainik Sangram.

Different reports published in Dainik Sangram during the war show that Jamaat's present secretary general, Ali Ahsan Mohammad Mujahid, was then the chief of Al-Badr force's East Pakistan branch.

Al-Badr was formed in greater Mymensingh under the supervision of the party's senior assistant secretary general Muhammad Qamaruzzman during the war.

On Aug 16, 1971 he was reported as the main organiser of the Al-Badr force in Mymensingh region.
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Re: [chottala.com] A Quick Email Inverview with Dr. David King

fishy fishy game!!! 

Jamir chowhdury <americamyland@yahoo.com> wrote:
I was surprised to hear from Dr. King that he was not even sure who invited  Gen. Moeen to Harvard. I am wondering whether other Security chiefs or Govenment officials would come and visit any place they wanted while restrictions are alredy in place for government officials to travel outside the country..Thanks to Gopal Sengupta and others for getting the actual truth out.


 
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A Quick Email Inverview with Dr. David King

Update: Mash also posted an email exchange with Dr. King.

[ Dr. David King is Lecturer in Public Policy at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government, where Gen. Moeen attended a class, viewed a presentation from students and answered some questions on October 22, 2007. As there is some controversy about whether Harvard invited Gen. Moeen, or whether he invited himself, and about Dr. King's consulting for Gen. Moeen, we decided to go straight to the source. Following is the email exchange with Dr. King, whose responses are in yellow. Now we know Dr. King is not a consultant in any capacity with any Bangladeshi entity, and that he asked Gen. Moeen to visit his class. Other than that, the invitation from Harvard is still a mystery. -J ]

Thanks for asking. I'm happy to talk, and I'm sorry that my voice mailbox was full. I just emptied it.

Here are some quick answers -- to the extent I know what has gone on --

1. Are you working on electoral reform in Bangladesh as a consultant?

No. I teach a research seminar here on election reform, and when we heard that General Moeen was coming to Harvard, I asked someone here if it'd be possible to have him visit with my students. My students then used Bangladesh as a "case" for a couple of weeks and prepared a presentation for him. The class took place yesterday, at its normal time. General Moeen arrived along with a personal aide, and other than my students, those two were the only ones present. The first I ever heard about being a "consultant" was when I read it on a blog yesterday.

2. Have you been appointed a consultant by Gen. Moeen personally or by the Bangladesh Army?

No, not at all.

3. Have you been appointed a consultant by the government of Bangladesh?

No. And I have not been asked to be a consultant by any person or agency in any way associated with Bangladesh.

4. Are you affiliated with the Ash Institute (there is a Bangladeshi media outlet, BDNEWS24.com, claiming "Professor David King of the Ash Institute, who extended the invitation, told bdnews24.com that Moeen participated in the presentation with enthusiasm." )? I am trying to figure out if BDNEWS24 got the name of the Institute wrong.

Yes, I am affiliated with the Ash Institute, and I ran a conference in June on their behalf. I am associated with several "institutes" or "centers" at Harvard, including Ash, the Institute of Politics, the Center for Public Leadership, the Shorenstein Center, and the Center for American Political Studies. I also hold an appointment in the Government Department. Harvard has a patchwork quilt of institutes and centers. Sometimes they communicate with each other well, but most often they do not.

5. Did you speak to BDNEWS24.com or did they manufacture the quote? It won't be the first time for them.

Yes, they called yesterday afternoon, about an hour after the class ended. The quote seems accurate to me, but I don't recall exactly what I said. They got the spirit of it right, however.

6. Did you invite Gen. Moeen, or were you approached by someone and asked if he could visit?

I don't know who initially invited General Moeen, but I think it was someone up in the "Yard," the main part of Harvard's campus. I heard about the invitation through someone at Ash, because after General Moeen was invited, someone asked Gowher for help arranging the visit. I then invited -- through the Ash Institute -- General Moeen to visit my class, since he would be on campus already. Well, whatever was planned in the Yard fell through and the conference was cancelled. But when an important person is scheduled to come to Harvard, they don't get "uninvited" just because the broader conference fell through. I was nervous that General Moeen might not come, which would have spoiled the "case" we'd been working on in class. Of course, he did come -- and the discussion in our class was thorough and wide-ranging.

General Moeen delivered his prepared lecture today at lunch, before a gathering of Bangladeshi students and community leaders. He fielded challenging questions, but since I am not a Bangladesh scholar, perhaps you'll receive a better briefing from other folks who were in the room.

I hope this helps.


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