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Wednesday, July 9, 2008

[chottala.com] Re: [notun_bangladesh] In politics there is no permanent enemy

 
In politics there is no permanent enemy
Abid Bahar
 
In politics there is no permanent enemy. Enemies of liberation takes backseat in textbooks.
When Bush took office Blair was asked to come and stay in the whilehouse to socialize with the new resident. No one complained. When war drums began to be operating, it was operating with syncronizing fasion from London as well. In the South Asian context, to deal with Indian aggression against Bangladesh, it is as if Bangladesh and Pakistan joins again. If India ever attacks Bangladesh,  we can expect that the latter might ask for Pakistan's help. But India-lovers would say Bangladesh became jamati, India would say, Bangladesh became Islamic, and American right would say, Bangladesh became a Taliban state.
But after a nation is born, its survival becomes the number 1 priority.
So politics is about what is happening now. India was against USA for a long time, now with USA and Israel. Pakistan was with USA and even helped to make US friendship with China, helped war in Afganistan. Now!
Only fools thinks once enemy, enemy for ever. Once Muslim Leaguer a Muslim Leaguer for ever, once an India -lover, an India -lover for ever. In Bangladesh there are some fools and some agants who are still fighting with the ghost of Pakistan gone four decades ago.  
Realistically speaking, national unity is needed for prosperity. This is a plain truth. Only fools and enemies could preach the opposit.
In India, the fundamentalists even killed Gandhi, the father of the nation, the fundamentalists to gain popularity destroyed a minority's place, the Babri Mosque, formed government. Advani instead of staying in jail became the home minister. India with such records still claims itself as the most peaceful and a progressive nation. Its puppets in Bangladesh says, India is great! and says, in politics, "once enemy, enemy for ever."
What a nonsense!

----- Original Message ----
From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
To: notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2008 10:23:59 AM
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Mr. Ayubi - Jamaate Islami of today is no different from the Jamaate Islami of yesterday

 
 
Mr. Ayubi
 
Yes, all of our future generation must know what has happened in history?
The nation must understand why did it happen, and how did it happen?
 
The South Africans still hates the "Aparthad Doctrine" and hate the colaborators
and national traitors and white supremist regime. They formed the "Truth Commission"
to expose the traitors and collaborator which had helped them to move farword.
Some culprits [not including the murders] were forgiven not forgotten.
 
The history of USA is a very important subject which is a requirement
for High School graduation. It emphasizes the American War of Independence
against the British. The collaborators of British occupation are still hated.
The top collaborator of the list is Benidict Arnold, whose name has become
synonimous with word for traitors [Just like Mir zafor in Bangla]
 
Most collaborators of  US imperialists in Vietnam has fled the
country and settled in USA and Australia. As such they are not an
important issue in Vietnam. However, known collaborator and
traitors of US imperialists are not welcome in Vietnam.
Vietnam has laws in their book to isolate and punish the traitors.
They don't advocate or preach Unity with the Traitors and collaborators.
 
All traitors and collaborators in Bangladesh should have moved to Pakistan.
The Islamic Republic of Pakistan should have accepted the stranded people
in Geneva camp and other camps who has expressed their alligence to that nation.
 
The International Affairs and diplomatic relations are different issues.
You are mixing up the issues, your business as usual !
 
What you are advocating is in essence  white washing Jamaate Islami's
criminal past and their role as traitors and collaborators. Our young
generation must know what has happend in history.
 
You seem to support burying our history under the rugs?
 
You have expressed you  vigilance on the activities of RAW in
Bangladesh. If there is a list of known RAW agents, Kader Siddiqui
would most probably on the top of the list of RAW agents in Bangladesh.
After Sheikh Mujibur Rahman's assasination in 1975, Kader Siddiqui fled the
country with his group, setting up home and hearth in Bardwan .....
Kader Siddiqui operated from Indian territory from 1975 to 1985
and constantly troubled the Bangladesh government with many instances
of terrorism. During President Zia's time he was tried in absentia
and was convicted... ....I am not sure if  you have a selective memory,
deleberate forgetfulness, or inadvertant !
 
Kader Siddiqui has been advocating for purging Jamaat from govt, ruling alliance
during the period of Jote sarker
 
Not too long ago [Februat 2008] he asked to bar war criminals
 
Now, all on a sudden he has a Chage of Heart? I wonder what kind of Bhondami is this?
Strange !!!!! Kader Siddiqui's new stanch is for sure is politically motivated.!!
 
Why does not these simple facts  register in you intelligent brain?
 
I agree that what Kader Siddiqui is saying today is exactly what you
haveen advocating for long time.. Is that just a statistical coincidence:
great people think alike or part of a concerted effort by  some "vested interests"
who have been trying to "UNIFY" the nation  under their banner in the name
of prosperity?
 
Syed Aslam
 
PS: Kader Siddiqui for purging Jamaat from govt, ruling alliance
Picture

Prime Minister Khaleda Zia talks to the leaders of Krishak Sramik Janata League at her office yesterday, the first day of the national dialogue on how to stop bomb terrorism. PHOTO: STAR
 
  
On 7/9/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com> wrote:

Mr. Aslam,

              Do you mean to say that we will be teaching our posterity the lessons of 1971 till eternity?  Americans fought a bittter war of independence against the Britiah colonial power over 230 year ago. They must also have thie quislings of the imperialists but are they still campaigning against the British or their quislings? 

            Vietnam was united after a bitter war with US imperialists lasting for over two decades.  Quisslings fearing repraisal ventured to run away from their country in dilapidated boats risking their lives.  Today three deades on there is no quisling in Vietnam.  They have sorted them out.

             South Africa was under oppresive rule of  minority white regime. There were white oppressors and black quislings? Are they teaching hatred to their people like you are trying propqagate hatred.  Even a freedom fighter of Kader Siddiqui's stature sees this division as politically motivated.

           I woulds like JIB to be seen and treated on basis of their their performance of 2008. If they have wronged against the country in 1971 then those suspects ahould be tried as per law of the land and those found guilty be punished.,. Why does not this simple fact register in you intelligent brain?

                     Salahuddin Ayubi

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com> wrote:

From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Mr. Ayubi - Jamaate Islami of today is no different from the Jamaate Islami of yesterday
To: notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 6:37 PM


Dear Mr. Ayubi
 
Sorry, if I have misunderstood you!
 
The essence of my perspective is that we should all take lessons from
the history, else the history may repeat. All of our new generations must
know what has happened in the past, what price we have paid for our
nation's independence .....
Nothing personal ... please take it easy...
Have patience  ...
 
Thanks
 
Syed Aslam
 


On 7/6/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com> wrote:

Mr. Aslam,

              You are natural writer and write well. You would have been successful as a lawyer had you been a lawyer. You have a knack for twisting facts. I am no bloody sympathiser of JIB but all that i want is that we must conclude the episode of 1971 if need by trying the criminals of 1971.  For us to march ahead we have to bury the past. Many countries before us have done it. We have to make a better bangladesh for which our brothers and sisters made the supreme sacrifice. We are betraying them when we see that those poor souls are being made gunea pigs of power politics here.. Their souls must be restless out there in the haven when they watch us doing politics about them from up above. Please do not get me wrong. I have never ever voted for JIB.

                Salahuddin Ayubi

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com> wrote:

From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Mr. Ayubi - Jamaate Islami of today is no different from the Jamaate Islami of yesterday
To: notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 4:26 PM


Mr. Ayubi
You don't have to agree with me, you are in essence,pleading for Jamaate Islami through your innuendoes I have said many time that I look at every move thatJamaatis make with a grain of salt....
 
It is very clear that you feel irritated, because  you can't accept the fact
that Bangladeshis were victorious and won their  independence through the
Glorious Liberation War. Our nationalism is embedded inthe fight for
independence and vice versa.
 
Our victory in the Liberation war was the starting point from which we marched
farward.We paid with blood as the price for our liberation, so we the people of
Bangladesh know how precious our National Independence is!  The war of
liberation will remain as inspiration for all our future generations.
 
Yes, everyone has right to preach his/her ideology.By the same token the people has right know that Jamaats played a henious anti-people role in 1971 as
traitor killer,& collaborator of a foreign occupation army in the name of
Islam.. 
 
Again, anyone has right to preach an ideology or a doctrine. The others also
have the right to show to the public how dangerous that ideology or doctrine
could be based on historical evidences.
 
Do you really understand why Jamaat named its Gestapo wing as Al-bodor
exactly 1380 years after our Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) faught the
Battle of Badar? Jamaat's Albador wing carried out many of the killing
missions in the name of Islam, 1971 is history but the dangerous ideolody
that misguided young Islami Chattro Shangho caders (currently Sibir)
still exist. Every killing was done in the name of Islam. read it once again:
Here is the quote justifying the genocide of 1971 in the
name of Islam:
"Anybody or group that raises arms against a Muslim government
loses his identity of a Muslim and becomes a renegade. He deserves
death penalty for his rebellion... ....If the Jamaat helped and supported
the army. it did it for the cause of Muslim Ummah. When Awami League
tried to break a Muslim country by seeking aid of the worst anti-Muslim
enemy, Jamaat tried to save Pakistan." - Jamaati Javed Iqbal Kaleem
Jun 23, 2008 12:39 am
 
Syed Aslam
 
On 7/6/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com> wrote:

Mr. Aslam,

              i am sorry that I cannot agree with you that any war can be the basis of nationhod. Wars are fought to establsh or protect a principle.. The basis of nationhood of Bangladesh is nationalism . We fought to establish this nationalism and succeeded in establishing it. So the basis of Bangladeshi nationhold is nationalism.

            We claim that we are a democratic country. If so then all parties have the right to profess their ideology and it is upto tthe people of the country to accept or reject that ideology.  It is only the facist who oppose propagation of any ideology other than their facist party's ideology.. In democratic bangladesh JIB has as much a right to profess their ideology as any othe party and it is upto the people of the county to accept or reject them..  To reject them for a crime, that has yet to be proved in a court of law , some forty years ago.  You can not didmiss them summarily.  If you have a case against them please do bring charges against them, prove it in the court, penalise them and then forget about them and leave them to the public opinion. You are avoiting the right path instead  following smear campaign against JIB.  This I consider to be against  democratic principle.. We have to first decide if we are a democratic country or a facist country in the lebas of a democratic country.

             Salahuddin Ayubi
--- On Sat, 7/5/08, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com> wrote:

From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Mr. Ayubi - Jamaate Islami of today is no different from the Jamaate Islami of yesterday
To: notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 2:26 PM

 
Mr. Salauddin Ayubi
 
The Liberation war forms the basis of our Nationhood and will remain as such forever.
 
Both BAL & BNP boasts of their participation in Liberation war. It's a shame that now you
are tryinng to undermine BNP with unsubstantiated rumors [born ............ ........
under the supervision of the country' s military intelligence ]. However, you must know that
BNP's strength was  mainly the public perception about General Zia's Announcement of
Independence of Bangladesh and his participation in Liberation war !!!!!!
Jamaats (JIB) played a henious anti-people role in 1971 as traitor & collaborator of
a foreign occupation army in the name of Islam..
 
As we see, in recent years  there was a tremendous infiltration of thugs & currupt 
people in all of our political parties and the BNP was no exception. That was a national
phenomenon and may be discussed in a different thread. [Why did it happen and
how did it happen .etc ...]
 
These currupt people while in power (2001-2006) ushered the largest
accumulation of black money in history of  Bangladesh: ...the classic primitive
accumulation of crony capitals ,,,,,,, Jamaate Islami was the main accessory
to this "perfect" crime ...... Opportunist power broker Jamaat kept its mouth shut
during these accumulaton process.[For opportunist Jamaat, staying in power was
more important than defending the public rights & interests. Jammat (JIB) even
turned its blind eye on the outgrowth of social evils (drug, prostitution, thuggery,
human trafficking etc.) in Bangladesh causing a great disservice to Islam and
proving that its Islam-passand politics is only in its lebash  -- a camoflague.. ....]
 
Again, Jamaat did everything in the name of Islam .... The holy alliance of
misrule resulted in the greatest shark attack on the masses on Bangladesh !!!!!!
 
India has it's own headaches & migranes, so it has it own limitations ,,,, we have
to defend ourselves against all foreign agressions.Our tradition created by our
muktijuddhas and the sacrifices made by our people in 1971 will always serve as an
inspiration against all foreign agressors real or imaginary [be it India, China or USA].
 
FYI Pakistan's role in fanning up disturbances in CHT can not be ruled out:
Islamabad  based  Pakistani Minister Raja Tridib Roy declared that Chittagong Hill Tracts
will be free soon. [ http://www.banglara dio.org.au/ BR-Archive- 2006.htm ]. This was as recent
as in December 2006. In the current Pakistan government too Raja Tridib Roy holds
the position of a Federal Minister. Why? Whom does he represent?
 
Another culprit was  traitor Mahmud Ali who was kept as Federal Minister of Pakistan till his
death (November 18, 2006). There are many indications which proves that the rulers of Pakistan
still have political agenda to entangle Bangladesh in an united Pakistan.
 
There are many news published in recent times that Pakistani ISI and its operatives are
still very active even in the internal politics of Bangladesh.  [more later in appropriate thread...]
 
In any case the, your statement "country perosper based on the realities of today where
as you want to cling on to the past." is nothing but a slogan mongering  to defend the
JIB (Jamaat) from their crimes of 1971. Jamaat may put on a new mask, new camoflague,
but they can not hide their past .....no matter how hard you try ....
 
Jamaate Islami of today is no different from the Jamaate Islami of yesterday.
Once a collaborator, always a collaborator .......[Jamaat is always a collaborator
in the perfect crimes against our people]
 
Syed Aslam
 
PS: "turn a blind eye and a deaf ear every now and then, and you will get marvellously well."
 
 
On 7/4/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com> wrote:
I agree with you that our outlooks are fundamentally different.  I for one would like to see my country perosper based on the realities of today where as you want to cling on to the past. Our murky past is not going to help us in the twenty first century world. liberation war has been capitalised by a particular party and they are using it to misrule the country. That party's track record is full of betryal of the people of this country. If that was not so then how political party that was born in the cantonment under the supervision of the country' s military intelligence  become peoples party and beat them hollow in any fair poll. Voters dont make mistake.

         As regards JIB it has been nearly forty years and they have not done anything to betray the trust of the people and that is why some people vote for them and they have become power brokers. You may like them or not  but they surely are a established power broker.

       Only trac that you play is anti Pakistani and anti Jamat record but today our main enemy is india who are doing propaganda against us and they were responsible for the CHT disturbances. They have not been fair with us as regard water sharing of the joint rivers. In 2008 our enemy is not Pakistan but  India and we have to find out mens of dealing with them effectively.

                  Salahuddin Ayubi


--- On Fri, 7/4/08, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com> wrote:
To: notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 5:16 PM

Jamaate Islami of today is no different from the Jamaate Islami of yesterday (1971)
They have only change in camoflague
 
 
 
Mr. Salauddin Ayubi Shaheb
 
Are you just looking back in anger ? Where is your logic? 
You have only slanders. twists and misrepresentations .....
 
"No amount of logic will convince you" - it applies to you more than anyone
else in all the Bangladeshi forums !!! Aren't you playing your own broken
records too !! Is it 7-track ?  ,,,, Sorry those have become obsolete and archaic
.... only few antic collectors have that .... perhaps you are one of them ....
[7-track tape recorder: IBM's first magnetic tape data storage devices, introduced
in 1952]
 
One track mind ? What is that ? I thought you are retired engineer.
Since when you became a psychologist? In any case, I have what Allah the
Almighty has given me ... Everything in this world is will of Allah including
your "creative" thoughts ....
 
 
 
 
Mr. Ayubi, we [meaning U and me] conceptually differ and differ vastly: We
have different visions for our nation.  Read all my posts, be honest and show
the message number(s)  that fits your slanderous accusations of "BAL activist
you are anti Bangadeshi and pro Indian" . I can see your basic philosophy is
"those not with us, are against us"    ...... . Utter intolerance toward others....
You are not alone in this game ..... there many of you mastuto cousins who
believe in the same philosophy and same doctrine.
 
Yes, I always look at JIB (Jamaat) with a grain of salt, because
of it's past as a traitor and collaborator of a foreign occupation army ......
 
Once a traitor, always a traitor .... A traitor can not be reformed ....
they don't have change of heart or even change of mind.
They have only change of camoflague .Deep inside, the Jamaate
Islami of today is no different from the Jamaate Islami
of yesterday  (1971)
 
Syed Aslam
 
PS: As you wanted to know, my real name is Syed Aslam. I have a middle
       name and also a nick name [Dak nam]  which I don't want to disclose
       publicly at this time. I fears for my life by getting killed by a hit man on
       false accusation of being an anti Bangadeshi and pro Indian.
      

 
On 7/4/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com> wrote:

Mr. Aslam,

              You are a one track minded BAL activist that too a typical one. No amount of logic will convince you , you will keep playing your old broken record but we do not have the patience to listen to such rantings from you. Like a BAL activist you are anti Bangadeshi and pro Indian. may bere you are Indian planted here to misinform and disinform us.

             The number of posts that you make every day is much more than a retired person like me can post..  Do you have anyother job for you to living or just this job of mininfrming and disinforming on berehlf of your employers... ?

                      You have not responded  to my mail requesting your real name/

                               Salahuddin Ayubi








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[chottala.com] Is khoka vasur of our controversial, susil editor Moti ?

 If you read the lead news of todays susil bangladaily about  the condition of roads of dhak city, it will seems to you that our Khoka saheb is vasur of the susil,controversial editor  moti.

 

http://www.prothom-alo.com/index.news.details.php?nid=MTczMjA=

 

 Other wise there must have any reference that khoka saheb is the mayor of dhaka city and he has  responsibility  regarding such  conditions of roads.

 

 Why the susils protecting the people with two evil characters:opportunist and corrupt?

 

 has khoka given part of his money to the reporter or the editor? 

আল্লাহ যাকে যখন ইচ্ছা ক্ষমতা দান করেন,মাইনাস টু ফরমুলায় তাই হাসেন
http://www.microscopiceye.blogspot.com/

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[chottala.com] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Kader Siddiqui ki koi?

 
 
 Dear All
 
 Kader Siddique is an embrassment to our country!
 
See below [Just a tip of the iceberg]:
 
In the week of 16th december 1971 when the whole nation was celebrating the victory, on 18
December 1971 Abdul Kader Siddique and his troops, Kaderia Bahini killed more than 50
razakers/biharies at Paltan Maidan adjacent to Dhaka Stadium by bayoneting. Eminent Journalist
Oriana Fallaci /  renowned photographer William Lovelace was among many eye wittnesses of this
killings. Kader Siddiqui and his group continued amassing fortune through looting under the cover
of  "vigilante justice" for next two months in Mymensingh and Tangail districts.
 
:
A picture is more than thousand words:
 
 

Bayoneting the Traitors [unarmed enemy] - "Vigilante justice : Victor and the Vanquished".
Kader Siddiqi, a Mukti Bahini guerrilla, bayonnets men accused of collaboration with Pakistan during East Pakistan's struggle to become the independent state of Bangladesh. (Photo by William Lovelace/Getty Images)

  •  When the political scenerio was changed after 15th August 1975, the bilateral relationship got soared, mainly because of India's negative attitude towards the new Govt of Bangladesh. They started giving armed training and along with residential and logistic support to some miscreants, who were opposing the new govt. One of such beneficiary was Bongo Bir Kader Siddiqui, who along with his companions were engaged in armed conflicts with Bangladesh armed forces for a long time.   [Mushfiq Prodhan - in http://www.shodalap.com/MP_anti_India.htm]

                                                               

  • Suddenly Indian media and the press started giving unprecedented coverage to one of the freedom fighter named Kadar Siddiqui. Intriguingly he was blown up out of all proportions. We all got surprised. Kadar Siddiqui was a Naik in 1 East Bangal Regt. He was dismissed on disciplinary ground. It was really very puzzling why India should give such publicity to a man like Kadar Siddiqui who was nothing very exceptional other-wise and not even known to many till such propaganda was launched. The mystery got unfolded only after the political change of 15th August 1975. After the historic revolutionary change of government Mr. Kader Siddiqui from Tangail sent a telegram to the then President Khandakar Mushtaq Ahmed. As his telegram failed to get any response, Mr. Siddiqui decided to run away to India and later with the assistance of the Indian authorities and agencies got involved into anti state cross border activities. Due to such nefarious activities one officer and two soldiers of Bangladesh army lost their lives in an encounter. During President Ziaur Rahman's time he was tried in absentia and was convicted. Since then he lived in India taking political asylum.  {Major Dalim]                                                                                                                                                                                                    
  •  After Sheikh Mujib was assassinated, they re-created the 1971 vintage Kader Bahini led by the infamous Kader Siddiqui who operated from Indian territory from 1975 to 1985 and constantly troubled the Zia Regime (and later the Ershad regime) with many instances of terrorism. [http://www.bigblueball.com/forums/bigblueball-lounge/31477-islam.html                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
  • The Daily Star Web Edition Vol. 5 Num 550
    Kader Siddiqui for purging Jamaat from govt, ruling alliance. Staff Correspondent ... Later Kader Siddiqui briefed the newsmen on the discussion at the Dhaka ...
    http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/12/13/d5121301044.htm

 

Tangail, Mar 13 (UNB) - Joint force today recovered about 21 acres of khas land from the possession of former MP Kader Siddiqi of Krishak Sramik Janata ...
www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-29960980_ITM
 
After the historic revolutionary change of government Mr. Kader Siddiqui from Tangail sent a telegram to the then President Khandakar Mushtaq Ahmed. ...
www.majordalim.com/h2p20.htm - 5k
 
Sent by:
 
Syed Aslam
 

 
On 7/8/08, Golam Ahmed <gatuhin@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Syed Aslam,

Do you have any documents that shows that Bangobir Kader Siddiqui really treated the rajakars badly during Dec 1971 to Jan 1972?

Could you please provide me if you have.

Thanks

Golam Ahmed

Ohio, USA.

----- Original Message ----
From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
To: notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 3:12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Kader Siddiqui ki koi?

Mr. Ayubi
 
With all due respect to Bangabir Kader Siddiqui for his contribution
to our liberation war, I must say that he is a great Flip-Flop ....
Do you really want to know how he treated the Razakers immediately
after our Nations victory over the Pakistani occupation?
[in December 1971-January 1972].
 
Now, all on a sudden why this change of heart...?
Is there "another vested interest" that is promoting
"politics of  unity between Razakar and Muktijodhdha
camps" ?
 
Syed Aslam
 
On 7/8/08, Syed Aslam <syed.aslam3@ gmail.com> wrote:
Kader Siddiqui then (February 2008)
Kader Siddiqui asks EC to bar war criminals      
Friday, 29 February 2008

Staff Correspondent

Krishak Sramik Janata League president Kader Siddiqui asked the Election Commission Thursday to directly disqualify acknowledged war criminals from elections instead of awaiting a court order.

"The Jamaat-e-Islami is recognised as a party formed by the anti liberation-war forces and war criminals. Why should they receive political recognition?"

Kader asked the EC in the second round of electoral reforms talks. "We are not saying that a religious person cannot enter politics, but war criminals and religion-based parties are not the same thing," he said.

Criticising Jamaat-e-Islami's choice of election symbol, he said: "In the Quran the scale is the symbol of justice and truth, as well as a religious symbol." Kader proposed the EC cancel its use as an election symbol.

He said the electoral reforms dialogue were 90 percent successful, but added that it would be a total failure if the commission could not hold a dialogue with BNP. He also said that the commission did not have the authority to decide which faction was valid, and that the EC could invite both factions.

Chief election commissioner ATM Shamsul Huda replied: "The matter of holding talks with BNP is pending a court verdict." "We do not want to comment on it." "We don't want any party to split. We don't want to be involved in any party feud," Huda said. On the issue of disqualifying war criminals, the CEC said: "In our draft proposals we have already proposed that war criminals should be put on trial in court."

"No convicted candidate can contest in the elections." The party raised a number of proposals including lifting the state of emergency, allowing election posters at designated sites, allowing election campaigning from 10.00 am to 8.00 pm, relaxing registration conditions for parties, and not to delimit constituencies right now.

It also asked the EC to allow expatriates to run overseas party offices. A 10-member KSJL delegation was present at the dialogue, also attended by election commissioners M Sakhawat Hossain and Mohammad Sohul Hossain.

[http://www.independ ent-bangladesh. com/200802292531 /country/ kader-siddiqui- asks-ec-to- bar-war-criminal s.html  ]

Kader Siddiqui Now (July 8, 2008):

http://www.dailynay adiganta. com/fullnews. asp?News_ ID=91428&sec=3

 I am confused too!

Syed Aslam

  On 7/8/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com> wrote:

  Bangabir Kader Siddiqui has echoed what i have been trying to say all these days. that it is the vested interests who have been trying to divide the nation into Razakar and Muktijodhdha camps and a divided nation can not march ahead or prosper..

                             Salahuddin Ayubi



 
On 7/7/08, Golam Ahmed <gatuhin@yahoo. com> wrote:

Please see this link below about a speech from Bongobir Kader Siddiqui (Published in nayadiganta on 8th July).

I am confused at his language. Did this daily published the true news?

 

http://www.dailynay adiganta. com/fullnews. asp?News_ ID=91428&sec=3

 

Thanks
Golam Ahmed

Ohio, USA.






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[chottala.com] Khoka is part of CTG and CTG is patron of two of devil's character(opportunists and corrupt)


DCC mayor khoka's  getting bail in the  afternoon after arrest warrent at noon proves that

 

 khoka is part of CTG.

 

 It proves one more time that this CTG is not against corruption. Rather they are patron of  evils with two devil characteristics: opportunist and corrupt.

 if not opportunist, then CTG don't patron them.

 

 We must play our level best role against such CTG

আল্লাহ যাকে যখন ইচ্ছা ক্ষমতা দান করেন,মাইনাস টু ফরমুলায় তাই হাসেন
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[chottala.com] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Climate Change and the Issue of Settling the Bangladeshis: They could be Settled in South American Countries

Dear All,
 
The climate change issues are perhaps becoming grave each day and, as a nation, we need to do something. The climate change is a global issue and the West is to be blamed most heavily for it and countries like bangladesh is getting all the negative impacts for it. I believe a global fund for climate change be quickly set up (no more false hopes) and allow Bangladesh and some of the deeply affected countries to be the major stakeholders of this fund. This fund need to be utilized in developing adaptive technology, exploration of alternative energy and improved technology and crop management for future sustainability. Some of the fund has to be given for global awareness campaigns so as to reduce waste and recycle and re-use waste. We also need to work on restraining our appetite for run away consumerism.
 
Take care.
 
Ziaur Rahman
IITM
Dhaka

 
On 7/6/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mr. Bahar,

             We may not have to be climate change refugees after all , only if we learn the tachnology of reclaiming land from the sea and train our rivers then we would not have to worry about it.

            If our government was indeed smart then it could make some fortune out of the global food cricis . Our farmers are one of th best in the world. It is no joke to feed 150 million  people in  acountry having sa land mass of 147,000 Sq Km. In otherword the small state o Wisconsin feeding half of USA.

       Our Peace keepers working in Africn countries have prepared good grounds for bangladesh. . We can now enter into agreement with those countries on share cropping on mutually bengicial terms. We could also train their agricutural scientist here in bangladesh and engage our farmers in African countries to grow more food which could be beneficial for both .

                         Salahuddin Ayubi
--- On Sun, 7/6/08, abid bahar <abidbahar@Yahoo.com> wrote:

From: abid bahar <abidbahar@Yahoo.com>
Subject: [notun_bangladesh] Climate Change and the Issue of Settling the Bangladeshis: They could be Settled in South American Countries
To: "ban yah" <banglarnari@yahoogroups.com>, "a bahar" <abidbahar@yahoo.com>
Cc: chottala@yahoogroups.com, notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 7:17 AM

Climate Change and the Issue of Settling Bangladeshis
Abid Bahar
Climate Change and the Issue of settling Bangladeshi climate refugees is becoming the talk of the small towns in the Global village. Questions asked, where to settle the 20.5 million Bangladeshis? The unfriendly India has been killing Bangladeshis in border areas through target practice even before the latter become refugees due to climate change and forced to take shelter in the north West Indian mountains. Last years death from the the unfriendly India's target shooting was 700.
South American countries like Argentina, Venezualia and Brazil could be approached by Bangladesh embassy/ Western governments to accept the proverbial hard working, friendly and moderate Bangladeshis. These countries are sparsely populated.

After all during the World Cup, Bangladeshis almost always support Argentina and Brazil. Also, two years ago, at the news of Argentina's defeat,a Bangladeshi from Barisal even committed suicide. I don't know the details, but I think there is a love connection and it is a love that should be respected.





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[chottala.com] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Poem "9/11 Hijacking" By Deepak Sarkar, Canada

Etokkhone Arindam Kohila bishade:

"Jara bale je bin Laden ei khotonati khatieche tara ta bale kolke te dom diye.  Americar moto deshe KPI e nirapotta byabostha eto durbol ta ki shopneo bhaba jai? Jodi bin Laden ei ghotona na ghatiye thake tobe ke ghatieche? "    Salahuddin Ayubi

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Oh yeah !  truths are stranger than fiction :
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YouTube - 9/11

satan's face seen in WTC plane crash explosion 9 11 2001. in ...
2 min 46 sec -
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDh_pvv1tUM

Fahrenheit 9/11 Trailer

Fahrenheit 9/11 part 1 of 12

video

connection to 9/11, despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis and Saudi money had funded Al Qaeda ... (more)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbgCttq8L_8

Fahrenheit 9/11 - Halliburton Scene

On 7/9/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:

Jara bale je bin Laden ei khotonati khatieche tara ta bale kolke te dom diye.  Americar moto deshe KPI e nirapotta byabostha eto durbol ta ki shopneo bhaba jai? Jodi bin Laden ei ghotona na ghatiye thake tobe ke ghatieche?

                       Salahuddin Ayubi

.

--- On Fri, 7/4/08, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
Subject: [notun_bangladesh] Poem "9/11 Hijacking" By Deepak Sarkar, Canada
To: notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 11:02 AM


Poem "9/11 Hijacking" - How Western Media and Politicians Betraying Citizens without addressing trivial 9-11 anomalies!

Wednesday July 02 2008 14:34:01 PM BDT

By Deepak Sarkar, Canada

9/11 Hijacking (Bin Laden or Military?)

(Dedicated to all who have been suffering for the well coordinated 9/11 disaster – Deepak Sarkar, www.kolki.com )
[NEADS – North Eastern Air Defense; FAA – Federal Aviation Authority; WTC – World Trade Centre]


["BBC" If George Bush were to be judged by the standards of the Nuremberg Tribunals, he'd be hanged –
American linguist Noam Chomsky].

If Bin Laden had to mastermind 9/11 operation
First he had to change normal US-hijacking protocol!
Overriding NEADS sector commander's power
Of scrambling fighter jets after the hijackers!

If Bin Laden had to execute 9/11 disaster
He had to authorize Mike Canavan, as FAA hijack coordinator,
The sole contact for the National Military Command Center
And making sure he hides in Puerto Rico without answer!

If Bin Laden had to coordinate 9/11 as commander
He had to order General Montague Winfield Brigadier
Entrust Charles Leidig, the deputy for Command Center
In charge overseeing the period during disaster!

If Bin Laden disciples were the hijackers
They would have been listed as passengers!
With their Islamic names on ticket and computer
Validated by passport and licence having picture!

If Cessna trained hijackers somehow could hijack
Pilot or crew had ample time to activate transponder!
Located at multiple points throughout jet airliners
Informing ground control 'I have been hijacked'!

If box cutters armed hijackers could over power
All captains and crew members, taller and stronger!
The takeover saga would have been there
In cockpit voice recorder for half an hour!

If Cessna trained hijackers could fly Boeing jetliners
Flight turns would be at the mercy of Boeing flight software
Having built in restriction maximum 1.5g manoeuvre
Could never collide with WTC overriding anti-collision feature!

If Bin Laden and hijackers with box cutters
Could undertake such mission of precision mass murder
President Bush must have ordered 'Global Guardian'
Bring those drones down locking on transponders!




["If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." James Madison]
["No one man can terrorize a whole nation unless we are all his accomplices." - Edward R Murrow ]
["Fascism will come to this country and it will come disguised as Americanism." - Governor Huey Long ]
["Fear can only prevail when victims are ignorant of the facts." - Thomas Jefferson]



[Ref: 9-11-time-line] [Thesis- 9/11 Truth] [9/11 Simple Proof] [Poems – 'New Pearl Harbour', 'Day of Consciousness']
[When Wise Act Ignorant or Indifferent, World Becomes Dangerous Place – Kolki]

Author: Deepak Sarkar, Canada; E-mail: kolki@kolki. com; Poetry & Peace Web site:



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