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Saturday, October 20, 2007

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Dear Moderator,

 

                  A Bangladeshi Honoured in Canada

Capital of Canada Ottawa City Council Honoured and awarded Bangladesh Canada Association President of Ottawa Valley Mr. Shahiduzzaman Jewel an Honourary Civic Award for his brilliant and extracurricular activities in the community services. He got this award three times before also. Please see the attached link.

He is from Halisahar, Chittagong, Bangladesh. We feel proud for his brilliant success.

 

Dr. Siraj uddowllah, Windsor, Canada.

 

 



Note: forwarded message attached.

   
 


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RE: [chottala.com] Attn: Mr. Alim Sharif - Re: How General Moeen U Ahmed earns over 66 lakh taka in one year?




From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:46 PM
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chottala.com] Attn: Mr. Alim Sharif - Re: How General Moeen U Ahmed earns over 66 lakh taka in one year?

 
WRT:
 
Dear All
No one should be above the laws, no matter what kind of
camouflage he/she is wearing. The question regarding the source
of earning 66 lakh Taka in one year by an armed force personal is
not baseless. It is very clear from the prospectus that General
Moeen U Ahmed made the transaction within in one year.
[see
page number 20]
 
General Moeen U.  pretends to be a "Transperency Guru" and
a firm believer of "the rights of the public for freedom of
information".  He may be given some benefits of doubt.
 
But, since the question has been raised he should come forward
and disclose his finances and the details of accumulation of wealth
over the years. He may have gotten the money from his rich


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Re: [chottala.com] Zillur Ahmed : Are military personnel exempt from punishment for corruption?

Dear Moderator

Are military personnel exempt from punishment for
corruption?

By

Zillur Ahmed, Elkridge, Mayland , USA.

I would like to make some comments on Mr. Zillur
Ahmed, Elkridge, Maryland, USA. E-mail on the above
caption.

Perhaps he knows the story of our corrupt leader H. M.
Ershad who is known to be the killer of democracy in
Bangladesh. He is also known to be a leader of a lot
of corruptions. He has investment in Saudi Arabia but
DDK may not know a lot of corruptions done by
H.M.Ershad. He was military personnel and hence was
exempted from punishment for his numerous corruptions.

However it is not true for Gen. Moeen Ahmed as we have
seen. He did not force the present government to
handover power to him rather he is helping Bangladesh
to be a corruption free country.

I may be wrong but truly I understand that Mr. Zillur
Ahmed is a member of Awami League or BNP - USA. He
should make his way to be one of the leaders in 2008
election. Most of us are happy with the performance of
our CTG. We can count on their performance for the
past 8 months. We have seen democracy for the past 35
years which was dominated mostly corruption and
nepotism.

Our constructive suggestion will help the present CTG
to do a better job. We are really annoyed with
democracy in Bangladesh for the past 35 years. Let us
come forward and help the CTG to reach their goal.
The court will decide the fate of 250,000 arrested so
far. I may be wrong but believe that these 250,000 are
some how related to any type of corruption. The law
enforcement authority took actions against those who
are related to corruption out 150 Million. It does not
fall even in any percentage.

Most of the Bangladeshi including some foreign
countries like U.K., USA and even European countries
are happy with the performance of CTG. It is really
necessary to expand CTG to do their better job for the
next 14 months.

Mohammed Sobhan
Toronto

--- Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are military personnel exempt from punishment for
> corruption?
>
> By Zillur Ahmed,
>
> Are military personnel so special that they are
> exempt from
> punishment for corruption? All patriotic
> Bangladeshis and well-
> wishers of their country would unequivocally answer
> "NO" to the above
> question.
>
> Here are a few points we need to ponder over:
>
> (1) General Moeen Ahmed has repeatedly stressed that
> all the
> approximately 250,000 people arrested so far and the
> unknown number
> still detained are all corrupt. There have only been
> 20 or so trials
> to date. How has General Ahmed determined that these
> people are
> guilty? These people are being presumed guilty and
> the onus is on
> them is to prove their innocence in order to obtain
> their freedom.
> This is an egregious violation of human rights and
> due process.
>
>
> (2) General Moeen Ahmed has announced at a press
> conference in London
> that he intends to expand the size of the present
> cabinet. The
> current regime has run for 9 months now. Therefore,
> if elections are
> to be held as soon as possible, there is no reason
> to expand the
> size. Our constitution also has absolutely no
> provision for any
> alteration of the size or form of an interim
> government. His
> intention to expand the government is an indication
> that rather than
> hold elections as soon as possible, he intends for
> this regime to
> stay longer.
>
>
> (3) He has further floated the idea of forming a
> National Security
> Council which will have veto power over Parliament.
> This is
> completely undemocratic and follows the same path
> that General
> Musharraf took in Pakistan. It is simply another
> vehicle for him to
> hold on to power and will have the same consequences
> it did in
> Pakistan.
>
>
> (4) General Moeen Ahmed has proposed changing the
> structure of our
> government to alter the power balance. This can only
> be altered by a
> two thirds majority of an elected Parliament. There
> are absolutely no
> other provisions in our constitution for such
> changes. Past
> constitutional changes made by dictators include the
> removal of the
> separation of church and state by General Ziaur
> Rahman and the bar on
> floor crossings by Members of Parliament by General
> Ershad. Much of
> the present difficulties in governing Bangladesh are
> a direct result
> of these unconstitutional changes. Unfortunately, it
> also takes a two
> thirds majority to reverse them.
>
>
> (5) The military regime has announced that it will
> hold municipal
> elections between January and March. Yet the state
> of emergency is
> still being maintained. It takes several months to
> gear up an
> effective election campaign, which is completely
> prevented by the
> state of emergency and the climate of fear it
> projects. Any elections
> held under such circumstances will be meaningless.
>
>
> (6) The voters list and electoral laws used in the
> municipal
> elections are the same as the ones for national
> elections. Therefore,
> if municipal elections can be held by March, there
> is absolutely no
> reason why national elections cannot be conducted in
> this timeframe
> as well. The only reason to hold municipal elections
> earlier is that
> they receive far less monitoring and are, therefore,
> easier to
> manipulate. Once municipal posts are controlled,
> then it becomes
> easier to manipulate the national elections far
> ahead of election
> day. This is a tactic that has been employed by all
> past military
> regimes.
>
>
> (7) General Moeen Ahmed has publicly stated in a
> speech
> that " Bangladesh will have to construct its own
> brand of democracy…
> with religion being one of several components of its
> national
> identity." This further explains the near total
> immunity the Islamic
> parties, particularly Jamaat-e-Islami, have enjoyed
> in spite of
> evidence of terrorism and corruption against them.
>
>
> (8) Some of the most corrupt politicians from both
> the major parties
> remain immune from prosecution and in fact are being
> actively
> supported by this regime in trying to break up the
> two major parties
> and form new ones. Without the two major parties,
> the fundamentalist
> parties will inevitably be the most powerful voice
> in any new
> coalition.
> *Zillur Ahmed, Elkridge, Mayland, USA*
> zillur.ahmed@hotmail.com
>
> Source:
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/44411
>


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[chottala.com] Benazir takes on a powerful enemy notorious Inter Services Intelligence (ISI)

telegraph.co.uk 
 

Benazir Bhutto takes on a powerful enemy notorious Inter Services Intelligence (ISI)


By Colin Freeman in Karachi
Last Updated: 1:07am BST 21/10/2007
Page 1 of 2

Former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto plans to purge her country's intelligence services of hundreds of rogue agents suspected of supporting Islamic terrorism, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt.

  • Benazir Bhutto Q&A
  • In pictures: Bhutto blast

     
    Benazir Bhutto
    Benazir Bhutto: 'We need a security service that is professional'

    In a move that puts her in direct confrontation with the nation's most powerful institutions, Ms Bhutto, who returned home from exile last week, said Pakistan's security agencies had to become "professional" outfits free from political agendas.

    Foremost in her sights if she returns to power will be the notorious Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), the secretive "state within the state" that is blamed for orchestrating much of the terrorist violence convulsing Pakistan and neighbouring Afghanistan.

    Many suspect it of providing financial and logistical assistance to al-Qaeda and the Taliban, the prime suspects for the suicide bombing that killed 139 people during her homecoming parade in Karachi on Thursday.

    Oxford-educated Ms Bhutto, 54, told The Sunday Telegraph: "We need a security service that is professional in its approach, which rises above ties of religious or political sentiment

    "I have strong reservations about some of the people still operating within the intelligence services, and we need reforms to get rid of them."

    She spoke out as Pakistani investigators revealed new details about the attack, in which a lone suicide bomber blew himself up alongside her armoured bus.

    The attacker, a source close to the investigation said, had tried to break through the security cordon by claiming he was a Bhutto aide, bringing her a box of cotton buds that she had requested. Security staff and police turned him away on his first two attempts, but did not suspect he was a terrorist.

    On his third try, having penetrated an outer ring of security, he is thought to have thrown a grenade as a diversion before detonating a device made of C4 plastic explosive and ball bearings.

    The bomber's severed head, which remained intact, was recognised by police as the man they twice turned away.

    Yesterday, as a police photograph of the bloodied head was printed in many Pakistani newspapers, the source also disclosed that they thought the bomber had been picked for the job because of his close physical resemblance to many of Ms Bhutto's security staff.

    The stewards around the bus included many makranis, distant descendants of African slaves who came to Pakistan centuries ago. "The makranis are known for being strong PPP supporters, so they were trusted with being in the inner cordon," said the security source. "The guy they picked for the suicide bombing looked just a makrani."

    The same tactic had been used in at least three other suicide bombings in Pakistan in the past year, he said, with the attackers picked to blend in with their surroundings. "If it's an attack in the Punjab province, they'll use a Punjabi, and so on," he said. "It's a sinister development – it shows that they have so many volunteers to choose from."

     
    The attack during Ms Bhutto's homecoming parade killed 139 people
    The attack during Ms Bhutto's homecoming parade killed 139 people

    The source also gave the identities of three government officials said to have been named in a letter written by Ms Bhutto to Pakistan's military ruler, Gen Pervez Musharraf, in which she accused them of plotting to attack her. The Sunday Telegraph is not revealing their names for legal reasons, but they include a serving senior commander within Pakistani intelligence.

    Ms Bhutto makes no secret of her disdain for the ISI, long the most powerful of Pakistan's myriad security agencies. Formed in 1948 to look after external threats, it expanded out of control in the 1980s, when it was responsible for disbursing millions of dollars of US cash to Islamic mujahedeen fighting the Soviet occupation in neighbouring Afghanistan.

    Many of those recruited to its ranks during that time actively sympathised with Islamist movements, and when the Soviets forces left in 1989 they went on to nurture both the Taliban and its ideological ally, al Qaeda.

    Among the Islamist operations thought to be sponsored by factions within the ISI today is the Taliban revival in southern Afghanistan, where it is now fighting a bloody campaign against British troops.

    For Ms Bhutto, the distrust of the ISI also has a strongly personal element. Its expansion and radicalisation were overseen by another Pakistani military dictator, General Zia ul-Haq, who in 1977 overthrew Ms Bhutto's father, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, executing him two years later.

  • Ms Bhutto suspects the ISI still contains many Haq appointees who nurtured particular grudges against her family's political dynasty. Asked how many agents needed to be removed, Ms Bhutto replied: "There are hundreds of them. We should not have anybody from Zia's time still there."

    Ms Bhutto, who hopes to contest elections in January to become prime minister for a third time, said most Pakistanis were now "fed up with extremism and militancy" and anxious to see the ISI tamed.

    However, such is the agency's reputation for destabilising successive Pakistani civilian governments that its it is by no means clear whether Ms Bhutto would come out on top. A mass purge of the ISI could see a repeat of problems experienced in Iraq, where the removal of Ba'athist security agents after the fall of Saddam Hussein pushed many directly into the insurgent ranks.

    "It is obvious why she might want to kick them out, but it will be very difficult for her," said one Pakistan-based Western official. "It is one of the major friction points in Pakistani politics."

    Last night, the atmosphere in the Bhutto camp remained subdued, and a planned trip to visit the grave of her father in the family's home town of Larkana was postponed while officials reassessed the security threat against her.

    In the meantime she is in effect confined to her home in Karachi, a reminder of the grim years she endured under house arrest during Haq's time. She has pledged to stay in Pakistan to campaign in general elections in January, but the prospect of further attacks means she may have to think carefully before organising mass rallies.

    • Additional reporting: Massoud Ansari
     
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    [chottala.com] Moeen rubbishes (?) allegations of taking Tk 1 crore in bank loan

     
    Dear All
    Please see the TRUST BANK prospectus in the link below along with Gen Moeen U.
    Ahmmed's denials: Judge for yourself :

    http://www.csebd.com/cse/download/Prospectus_TRUSTBANK.pdf

    [ Indexed Page number 20 which is 29th page of the pdf file]

    See Jpeg image below.


     
    Moeen rubbishes allegations of taking Tk 1 crore in bank loan
     
     
    Sun, Oct 21st, 2007 12:40 am BdST
    http://www.bdnews24.com/details.php?cid=2&id=25441
    Dhaka, Oct 20 (bdnews24.com) – General Moeen U Ahmed Saturday brushed aside the allegations of taking Tk 1 crore in loans from a bank and said it was all designed to "malign" him.

    The army chief, visiting the US, said: "It's not true that I borrowed Tk 1 crore from Trust Bank. It's not true either that I paid back Tk 60 lakh."

    The interview was aired on BBC Radio (Bangla).

    According to the allegations what BBC said was spread by the internet, Moeen borrowed about Tk 1 crore in loans from Trust Bank in 2005 and repaid more than Tk 60 lakh until the end of 2006.

    "It's totally false. I have borrowed only as much as permitted for an army officer in line with Trust Bank rules. I didn't borrow even one taka more than permitted."

    Moeen said he borrowed only Tk 35 lakh, which includes Tk 25 lakh in house loans.

    "It's all documented. Anyone can see that. Anybody can contact me. I am paying back the loans with the money I get from house rents," he told BBC by phone.

    "It (allegation) was all designed to malign me."

    A similar interview with Voice of America's Iqbal Bahar Chowdhury was aired on private TV station NTV.

    "Before coming to the US, I knew the question about it might arise. I have been living an honest life. I want to retire as an honest man," Moeen said in the interview.

    Asked if he would submit his wealth statement to the Anticorruption Commission, which many high-profile people have already done, Moeen said: "I was the first to say we all should submit wealth statements. I still hold on to my position."

    Earlier, General Moeen had a meeting with Congressman and co-chair of Bangladesh caucus in US Congress Joseph Crowley.

    bdhttp://www.bdnews24.com/details.php?cid=2&id=25441
     
     Trust Bank prospectus Page # 20
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    [chottala.com] dont blame someone with blind eyes

    To support some corrupted people, dont blame someone with blind eyes..see the attached link below:
     
     
    http://www.shamokal.com/details.php?nid=77303

    Jamir chowhdury <americamyland@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Shamim, Congratulations! Good work. It's kind of give and take...By the way, who is paying for this trip? We will never learn...Couldn' he find any Bangladeshi scholar who could do the job? Is he better than Dr. kamal or Reaz? I am sure that Mr. King will be paid $5000 per day..Most importantly, the General had the opportunity to hand-shake with a White American in the Harvard! It may be more..the General may get a consulting to work with Burmese Militray junta...I have heard that the General is more interested in the UN job. let's see..Thanks.
    ------------------------------------------
     


     
    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo.com>
    To: Shamim_Personal chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo.com>
    Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 11:04:35 AM
    Subject: [khabor.com] Gen Moeen¢s US trip, and my long exhalation

    Gen. Moeen U. Ahmed on his way to America stopped by London and gave a personal glorifying interview with local Bangla TV.
     
    Please check video excerpt of his interview
     
    Gen. Moeen proudly mentioned the very reason he is taking this long trip because Harvard University has invited him to deliver a speech. He did not fail to mention that Bangladesh should feel proud that such a big institution has invited his military chief. While he was talking about receiving his invitation, his face was beamingly glowing with proud.
     
    Surely, we should be proud of such event, which suppose to take place on 21st of October. We will closely monitor the outcome of such event if it really takes place. It is not just for personal ecstasy but which need to be shared as a nation according to general himself.
     
    I am trying to learn about this scheduled historical event for Bangladesh from Harvard University web portal as well as their offices but unfortunately, so far I am completely unsuccessful. Neither their web portal nor their offices can trace such event exist.
     
    Nevertheless, I cannot give up! It hits my pride as a nation. My General is not lying for sure, so it must be the incompetent officio of Harvard who does not have any knowledge about this historic event for Bangladesh . Alternatively, may be something more interesting then that, Uhoo! Is it possible that America is giving security of my general highest priority and therefore not disclosing his appearance?
     
    However, some of the sources I have with Harvard is giving me very hart breaking news, what is it? It is not Harvard but a teaching staff namely Dr. David C. King who invited General Moeen in his personal capacity to speak in front of student of his own class therefore this scheduled event is not published in Harvard notice board.
     
    Though, by now I am very disappointed but still looking for an escape window not for my self but for my nation from this disgraceful situation. I started my inquiry about who is this David C. King. In my mind, he must be some one very especial with high connection that brought my general here in US with hope that this will be glorifying for his nation, which is, mine too.
     
    But when bad news comes it comes from all side, I take a deep breath, lungful of air and exhale a very long mouthful of air with complete frustration. Dr. David C. King is a Lecturer in Public Policy at Harvard University 's John F. Kennedy School of Government, where he teaches about the U.S. Congress, Election Reform, and Youth Political Engagement.  Professor King joined the Harvard faculty in 1992.
     
    Dr. Kings resume includes following as his specialty
    Legislatures and representation
    Elections and election administration
    The mobilization and political attitudes of young people
     
    Bangladesh government sought his advice for election reform and wanted to appoint him as special consultant during his visit to Bangladesh . For that reason and out of courtesy, he invited Gen. Moeen to come to his school and to speak to his class and probably finalize the deal of him working as consultant. That is it, nothing more and nothing less remains about this story and my investigation ended there with a face longer then when I started. Now readers it is up to you to decide how proud you feel out of this ordinary story to make this event extraordinary for my poor nation.
     
    I am still field with optimism that the accounts I am giving you is untrue and Harvard will give my general a red carpet reception. Let me confess, its not just for him or my nation but my over frustrated long face to go normal.
     
    Sincerely with long exhalation
    Shamim Chowdhury
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    Re: [chottala.com] How General Moeen U Ahmed earns over 66 lakh taka in one year?

    Dear All
                Those who blamed General Moeen about his taking loan, pl see the ittefaq of 21 Oct 2007.You may go to web site and see the paper.He has given an interview with the BBC on this issue.As I told you that, it is not nice to blame an honest man like Gen Moeen.He never took 1 Cr taka loan from Trust Bank.He also requested to see his papers if you have doubt about it.My request, pl help and  cooperate with this gentleman(Gen Moeen) to make our country an economically solvent one like Malaysia.Already, The Bangladesh Bank Reserve has made its record level amount.It will take little time to remove the rusts from the country
    Best regards
    Shamim Hasnain
     

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    Re: [chottala.com] Attention.Mr Shamim Chodhury.& others.............Gen. Moeen's Harvard invitation is a sweet-heat deal !

    Mr Shamim Chowdhory.& others............
    It is not the question of sweet heat dealing for proudness.It is the question  as a nation are we how much fool? Or Are we how much to rule the country Independently in lawfully   peaceful mannar?
    So it is very essential to introduce nation wide a system for providing quality education to all professional persons for making them quality fit to do their respective job functions skilfully perfectly.
    Then the story of proudness for sweet heat dealing will not get chance to be created.

    AbdurRahim Azad <Arahim.azad@gmail.com> wrote:
    Gen. Moeen's Harvard invitation is a sweet-heat deal !
     
    WRT:
     
    So the invitation is a sweet-heat deal..... I had the impression by reading the Bangladeshi news paper New Nation that Gen. Moeen was invited by the
    President of Harvard University which should have been the case for a Army Chief of a nation. However,  Dr. David C. King, a Lecturer in Public Policy
    at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government is the host, not the Harvard University.  Bangladesh government
    sought Dr. David C. King's advice for election reform and wanted to appoint him as special consultant during his visit to Bangladesh.
    For this reason he invited Gen. Moeen to come to his school and to speak to his class and probably finalize the deal of him working as
    consultant.  Money talks .... There is a definitely a conflict of interest. But who cares?
     
    Gen. Muhammad Ershad also had a sweet-heart at University of Pennsylvania (another Ivy League University). The gentleman this case was Dr. Craig
    Baxter who was a political consultant to Bangladesh Government and a admirer of Ershad Adiminstration during his regime.  The recently published
    Ayub's Diary has been edited by Dr. Ctaig Bacter who is currently a Professor Emiritus of of Politics & History at Juniata College.
     
    A. Rahim Azad
     
    On 10/20/07, Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Gen. Moeen U. Ahmed on his way to America stopped by London and gave a personal glorifying interview with local Bangla TV.
     
    Please check video excerpt of his interview
     
    Gen. Moeen proudly mentioned the very reason he is taking this long trip because Harvard University has invited him to deliver a speech. He did not fail to mention that Bangladesh should feel proud that such a big institution has invited his military chief. While he was talking about receiving his invitation, his face was beamingly glowing with proud.
     
    Surely, we should be proud of such event, which suppose to take place on 21st of October. We will closely monitor the outcome of such event if it really takes place. It is not just for personal ecstasy but which need to be shared as a nation according to general himself.
     
    I am trying to learn about this scheduled historical event for Bangladesh from Harvard University web portal as well as their offices but unfortunately, so far I am completely unsuccessful. Neither their web portal nor their offices can trace such event exist.
     
    Nevertheless, I cannot give up! It hits my pride as a nation. My General is not lying for sure, so it must be the incompetent officio of Harvard who does not have any knowledge about this historic event for Bangladesh. Alternatively, may be something more interesting then that, Uhoo! Is it possible that America is giving security of my general highest priority and therefore not disclosing his appearance?
     
    However, some of the sources I have with Harvard is giving me very hart breaking news, what is it? It is not Harvard but a teaching staff namely Dr. David C. King who invited General Moeen in his personal capacity to speak in front of student of his own class therefore this scheduled event is not published in Harvard notice board.
     
    Though, by now I am very disappointed but still looking for an escape window not for my self but for my nation from this disgraceful situation. I started my inquiry about who is this David C. King. In my mind, he must be some one very especial with high connection that brought my general here in US with hope that this will be glorifying for his nation, which is, mine too.
     
    But when bad news comes it comes from all side, I take a deep breath, lungful of air and exhale a very long mouthful of air with complete frustration. Dr. David C. King is a Lecturer in Public Policy at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government, where he teaches about the U.S. Congress, Election Reform, and Youth Political Engagement.  Professor King joined the Harvard faculty in 1992.
     
    Dr. Kings resume includes following as his specialty
    Legislatures and representation
    Elections and election administration
    The mobilization and political attitudes of young people
     
    Bangladesh government sought his advice for election reform and wanted to appoint him as special consultant during his visit to Bangladesh. For that reason and out of courtesy, he invited Gen. Moeen to come to his school and to speak to his class and probably finalize the deal of him working as consultant. That is it, nothing more and nothing less remains about this story and my investigation ended there with a face longer then when I started. Now readers it is up to you to decide how proud you feel out of this ordinary story to make this event extraordinary for my poor nation.
     
    I am still field with optimism that the accounts I am giving you is untrue and Harvard will give my general a red carpet reception. Let me confess, its not just for him or my nation but my over frustrated long face to go normal.
     
    Sincerely with long exhalation
    Shamim Chowdhury
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    [chottala.com] America's own unlawful combatants !

    America's own unlawful combatants?

    Over Baghdad
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    OVER BAGHDAD: A Blackwater helicopter in Feburary. The amount of force being used by such firms has raised questions.
    Using private guards in Iraq could expose the U.S. to accusations of treaty violations, some experts think.
    By Julian E. Barnes, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
    October 15, 2007
    WASHINGTON -- As the Bush administration deals with the fallout from the recent killings of civilians by private security firms in Iraq, some officials are asking whether the contractors could be considered unlawful combatants under international agreements.

    The question is an outgrowth of federal reviews of the shootings, in part because the U.S. officials want to determine whether the administration could be accused of treaty violations that could fuel an international outcry.
     
    But the issue also holds practical and political implications for the administration's war effort and the image of the U.S. abroad.

    If U.S. officials conclude that the use of guards is a potential violation, they may have to limit guards' tasks in war zones, which could leave more work for the already overstretched military.

    Unresolved questions are likely to touch off new criticism of Bush's conduct of the unpopular Iraq war, especially given the broad definition of unlawful combatants the president has used in justifying his detention policies at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

    The issues surrounding the private security contractors are being examined by lawyers at the departments of State, Defense and Justice. Disagreements about the contractors' status exist between agencies and within the Pentagon itself.

    "I think it is an unresolved issue that needs to be addressed," said a senior Defense Department official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the subject. "But if that is in fact the case, what the heck are we doing?"

    The use of private contractors by the U.S. military and governments worldwide began long before the U.S invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, but it has mushroomed in recent years. With relatively little controversy, contractors have assumed a greater share of support and logistics duties traditionally handled by uniformed military, such as protecting diplomats inside a war zone.

    On Sept. 16, a Blackwater USA security team guarding U.S. diplomats was involved in a shooting that killed as many as 17 Iraqis. Blackwater said its personnel were under attack, but Iraqis said the team began the shooting.

    Other incidents portraying the private guards as aggressive and heavily armed have since come to light.

    The guards also operate under immunity from Iraqi law -- immunity was granted in 2004 by U.S. officials -- and in a murky status with respect to American laws.

    The designation of lawful and unlawful combatants is set out in the Geneva Convention.Lawful combatants are nonmilitary personnel who operate under their military's chain of command. Others may carry weapons in a war zone but may not use offensive force. Under the international agreements, they may only defend themselves.

    The amount of force being used in Iraq by security firms like Blackwater has raised questions.

    The United States already has faced international criticism about its interrogation techniques and detention procedures, and charges that such practices do not adhere to international treaties. It was the government lawyers involved in those matters who first raised questions about the legal status of the private security contractors under Geneva Convention provisions.

    But there is debate among those studying the question. Lawyers at the Justice Department are skeptical that the contractors could be considered unlawful combatants, but some in the State and Defense departments think the contractors in Iraq could be vulnerable to claims that their actions make them unlawful combatants.

    If so, some experts say, the U.S. would have to pull them out of the war zone.

    Legal experts widely agree that private contractors are allowed to use force to defend themselves. But the threshold between defensive and offensive force is ill-defined.

    "In terms of these private military contractors, it really is, legally speaking, very convoluted," said the senior Defense official. "It is always true that people can defend themselves. The question then becomes: At what point does a contractor who is providing defensive security go beyond that?"

    Interpretations also vary in academic circles, where the issue has been the subject of articles and discussions.

    For a guard who is only allowed to use defensive force, killing civilians violates the law of war, said Michael N. Schmitt, a professor of international law at the Naval War College and a former Air Force lawyer. "It is a war crime to kill civilians unlawfully in an armed conflict," he said.
    Source:
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    - Iraq coalition casualty count - icasualties.org
    - More coverage of the Iraq war
     
    erik princeErik Prince, Blackwater's owner. (Photo: Brendan Smialowski for the New York Times)

    Then, Erik D. Prince, the company's founder, stands firm, publicly defending his company and its employees while somehow maintaining a " publicity shy" image. His main message, which emerged at his fairly smooth appearance on Capitol Hill two weeks ago, was also at the top of his interview with 60 Minutes on Sunday night:

    "I'm an American working for America. Anything we do is to support U.S. policy. You know, the definition of a mercenary is a professional soldier that works in the pay of a foreign army. I'm an American working for America," Prince says.

    Comments:

  • "I'm an American working for America. Anything we do is to support U.S. policy. You know, the definition of a mercenary is a professional soldier that works in the pay of a foreign army. I'm an American working for America," Prince says.

    A definition of mercenary is one who serves merely for wages, a criterion which Blackwater meets perfectly as a for-profit paramilitary corporation.

    — Posted by Matt Levitch

  • Unlawful combatants? Next stop, Gitmo or Abu Ghraib, take your pick. No matter how Prince phrases it, his goons are mercenaries. From the way he's now cozying up to Romney, I suspect we'll see a lot more of Blackwater's shock troops if Romney wins.

    — Posted by windrider

  • It's good to see that there is a company that has the gonads to do what the Military leadership is hesitant to do. Since this country is turning to only wanting the easy part of democracy and socialism someone needs to defend it and do the tough parts.

    — Posted by airplanejim

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