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Friday, July 18, 2008

[chottala.com] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Article on Nehru's Indian Doctrine

 
Article on Nehru's Indian Doctrine
http://www.bangladesh-web.com/view.php?hidRecord=210657
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No transit facilities to India

Friday July 18 2008 01:00:25 AM BDT

By Abu Zafar Mahmood

India has been demanding transit facilities from Bangladesh for military purposes.Bangladesh must not involve in such suicidal risk.The caretaker government of Bangladesh also should not go for making dicision on such national issue.On the otherhand,a mass violence and tough struggle would be pushed against Army backed government if the foreign ministry surrender to the Indian authority in any way.

General Moin u Ahmed and Dr.Fakhruddin Ahmed also certainly be criticized and blamed severly.It will be easy to say that they are positioned through Indian supports to materialise the Indian interests and to turn Bangladesh a complete Indian colony and it could be strongly beleived that people will not have choice accept fighting against the caretakers and militaries.

Indian Authorities might think that it is the best time to put pressure this caretakers and the military commanders in absence of political government.Moreover might take the advantage of misusing the American-Indian tie on pressurising Bangladesh.In fact it is clear that Bangladesh was born a militant nation by it`s birth in the question of national soverienty and interests and will not accept Indian open supremacy in anyway.

It is mentionable that during the liberation war of Bangladesh in the year 1971 the Indian government manged to get signed a 7 points agreement by the acting president of exile government Syed Nazrul Islam.

Those 7 points of the agreement were:-

1.Those who actively participated as freedom fighters and were recognized as such would according to ability run the state administration of Bangladesh and the others would be removed from their employment and service.

2.The Indian and Bangladesh Armies would be made into a joint or comboned army where head would be the Indian Army chief.Only on his command couid war be waged.

3.Bangladesh will not have it`s own military force.

4.Instead a paramilitary force would be established to take care of the internal law and order situation.

5.There will bean open market between the two countries but from time to time through mutual discussions the principles of trade would be settled.

6.The Indian Army will remain in Bangladesh for an indefinite period.

7.India and Bangladesh would have the same foreign policy based on discussions between the two countries.

After this agreement was signed prime minister Indira Gandhi advised for the declaration war against pakistan.( This reference taken from the book `The war preparation of India-Pakistan and war` by Dr.kalidas Baidyo).He wrote Indian Army took the `possession` of Bangladesh on 16th December 1971.

In the surrender and sovereignty power document which was signed by General Niazi on behalf of defeated Pakistan Army and handed over to the General Arora of the Joint force it was no where mentioned whether this surrender document was then passed on to the Bangladesh Government later on.

At that time the Mujib Bahini composed of 10 thousands student leaders were trained under Indian intelligence agency RAW and controlled by thethen pro-Indian youth leaders Serajul alam khan,Sheikh Fazlul haq Moni,Abdur Razzak and Tofail Ahmed.This guerrilla commandos(Mujib Bahini) were driven against the exile government and Mukti Bahini always to keep them disturbed.

But what was the realities?

The international powers and leaders did not accept Indian possession on Bangladesh and did not come forward on recognizing Bangladesh,a sovereign nation untill Indian Army get out of it. Commander of Liberation war Sector Number 9 Major Mohammed Abdul Jalil initiated fighting against Indian Armies.

Our great leader Bongo Bondhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman after his release from pakistan jail,made a deal with Prime minister Indira Gandhi to withdraw the Indian Armies from Bangladesh.The occupied Army was withdrawn on March 12th 1972.The prime minister of India came Dhaka on March 19th and signed a joint declaration treaty of 25 years.This treaty also was denied and publicly opposed by great elderly leader Mowlana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhasani and large section of freedom fighters.

The Great leader of Bangladesh Bongo Bondhu Shiekh Mujibur Rahman was assassinated .The role of Indian government and the activities of RAW in it are still big question mark in that respect.

The same theory was followed in the writings of Indian renowned defence analyst Mr.Rabi Rikhi.He wrote in his book,The war that never was: "India should at the earliest opportunity incorporate pakistan into the Republic followed by all the terrotories that composed India before Independence.The natural boundaries of India encompass the present-day states of India,pakistan and Bangladesh.Our geo-stratigic imperative requires a subordinate Srilanka,Burma and Bhutan,and a buffer Tibet and Afganistan.No matter what the cost,we must start the process of reintegration.The later we put it off,the more the eventual cost.Once Pakistan returns to the fold,the other states will return at a fraction of the cost and effort.Reintegration can be conducted either peacefully or by war.In 1975,Shiekh Mujibur Rahman was assassinated.Though Mrs Indira Gandhi first considered intervention and Army alerted 3 divisions,in the end the government hasitated and the moment passed.

The result: Our chance to keep the Bangladesh in our camp vanished.India would have been fully justified in intervening under the same doctrine that lets the soviet Union intervene in Poland and Afganistan and the United states of America in Nicaragua Grenada"

India propogates lots of false accusations against Bangladesh to isolate it from international freinds and United Nations.They follow the Adolf Hitler`s doctrine of accusations against the enemies.He accused and charged against Poland,Czechoslovakia and Austria of oppressing their ethnic German population before invading those countries.

Indian intellegence Agency-RAW using Dr. Kalidas Bodyo and HBC unity council to create Hindu state within Bangladesh by the Indian Border with the districts of Khulna,Jeshore,Kustia,Faridpur,Barisal and Potuakhali.His Hindu Armed fighters are known as Bongo sena.The name of his movement was Bongo bhumi movement.He started the formal attack on August 15th 1977 and the formal official declaration of Bongo Bhumi was announced on March 24th 1982.

In the meantime the name of Bongobhumi movement is changed into Human rights congress on Bangladeshi minorities-HRCBM.They stage drama on Hindu supression,make film on it.Use these documents in America and Canada for Indian Hindu`s political assylum application and on the otherhand use accusing Bangladesh and Muslims in favricted purposes.

On May 1989 in an interview with Dhaka Corrior Publication Dr.Kali Das was asked,Wel,Tell me,What may be the alternative to Bongobhumi movement?Mr.Das said,The alternative is only one,Bangladesh may accept submission and become a part of India.The Bongobhumi movement may be stopped if it(Bangladesh )accept total submission.(Daily Dinkaal-4th December,1993).

Indian foreign ministry says they love Bangladesh and for it`s Economic and Security reasons they will use the transit facilities only, not for India`s own Military reasons.Sikkim is the perfect example to make the world clear of the confusion.

The Indians claim to have had evidence that CIA was encouraging the king to seek independence.He married American girl.Indian security is endangered.So they instructed their external intelligence agency to make plot to through him in troubles.Then it was announced every where that king is conspiracing to assassinate all the popular political leaders and civil servants.Ruler will be the owner of absolute power which galvanized the publics against the ruler and brought public demonstration and resentment out of the streets.This prepared a perfect cover for the Indian Army to intervene in April 1973.

The ruler was convinced to make the legislature every 4 years.On April 10th The assembly made a decesion that`the institution of Chogyal is hereby abolished and Sikkim shall henceforth be a constituent unit of India`.

India`s justification was superficially based on the idea of democracy and human rights but it`s true motivations were derived from the deep of the Nehru doctrine and which was brought into play by theperceived US interest in Sikkim.

"India could least afford an unstable Sikkim or allow interference of any foreign country in Sikkim affairs... .It was also obvious that anunstableneighbor would become a grave threat to India`s national security... .So in response to Sikkim`s Assembly resolution,the constitution(Thirty eighth Amenment) Act was passed by Parliament,making Sikkim the 22nd State of the Indian Union on April 26th,1975".RAW acquired the credit to bloodless transformation of a princely state into a democratic state of India.

Now the issue of impact of the Global climate change,Democracy,the issue of bringing the war criminals into justice,The internal face of major political leaders,price crisis of the commdities,Area determination of country,US-INDIA -CHINA interests conflict and the role of military in country,Naval base of the country,oil and gas mines etc are the main factors.In this time the pressure for transit is definitely highlights a dangerous threat to take into consideration and the entire nation must be united not to provide the enemy military to use the Soil of Bangladesh.

The conscious Bangladeshis might remember the valuable writings of india`s philosopher of expansionism Mr Jawharlal Nehru.In his book~`Discovery of India` he wrote, "India will inevitably exercise an important influence.India will also develop as the centre of economic and political activity in the Indian ocean area.The small national state is doomed.It may survive as a culturally autonomous area but not as an independent political unit".


Abu Zafar Mahmood, journalist and South Asian affairs Analyst.Email:nynews21@gmail.com


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Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:04:34 AM
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Save Our Motherland Bangladesh: Transit to India is Bringing Crocodile through Digging a Canal

 

Liar,   RAZAKAR,    Stupid,   Bastard  

 

 

"Izhar   Ahmad / Salahuddin   Ahmad / Salahuddin   Ayubi"

 

 

ER    DUI    GALE 

 

JUTA    MARO      BARE    BARE

 

JUTA     MARO     TALE    TALE

 



On 7/18/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dr. Bahar,

            It is not transit but corridor that India is asking. They refused to give us the teen bigha corridor even after signing of an agreement. What they gave us after eighteen years of signing of the agreement was a  trunkated passage to Angarpota keeping all the controls to them.  It is only the enemies of the country who could agree to allow them the corridor.

          If we at all compelled to agree to it, then we should ask India to build a overhead road across bangladesh on BOOT basis at their cost that could be used by both bangladeshi and Indian vehicles but Indian vehicles or personel would notn  be premitted to touch bangladeshi soil..

            Salahuddin Ayubi  

--- On Thu, 7/17/08, abid bahar <abidbahar@Yahoo.com> wrote:

From: abid bahar <abidbahar@Yahoo.com>
Subject: [notun_bangladesh] Save Our Motherland Bangladesh: Transit to India is Bringing Crocodile through Digging a Canal
To: "strategic studies" <bd_sdf@yahoo.ca>, "Bangladesh United nations" <bangladesh@un.int>, notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@yahoogroups.com>, "ban yah" <banglarnari@yahoogroups.com>, "bdresearchers@yahoogroups.combangladesh" <bdresearchers@yahoogroups.com>, abidbahar@yahoo.com, minarrashid@yahoo.com, info@albd.org, ershad@dhaka.agni.com, info@jamaat-e-islami.org, exile.leader.lpb@gmail.com, editor@dailynayadiganta.com, "MBI Munshi" <mbimunshi@gmail.com>, chottala@yahoogroups.com, newagebd@global-bd.net
Cc: n_editor@bangla.net, noazabd@gmail.com
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 8:44 AM

Save Our Motherland Bangladesh:Transit to India is Bringing Crocodile through Digging a Canal
Abid Bahar

If transit is allowed through the heartland of Bangladesh, it will be as if bringing crocodile through digging a canal. The issue is, the CTG is not an elected government and transit is an issue related to sovereignty, security and economic factors. The News Today Monday July 14 2008 reported: "The [CTG] government earlier was sympathetic about the transit issue. It was in a mood to propose to India to conduct a feasibility study on the rail transit but the Indian High Commissioner''s public statement on this sensitive issue has forced the government to change its earlier position" the source said. Why should CTG show interest in it is a question repeatedly asked in Bangladesh!

Why Bangladesh should never allow land transit to India. Here are the 7 reasons:

1. India has proven itself as an untrustworthy friend/neighbour. During the liberation war, while helping Bangladesh liberation, it secretly built the Farakka dam. "Farakka was commissioned on permission from Mujib on the condition that it will have test run for only 40 days. But unfortunately those 40 days is yet to be finished (even after 37 years) and Bangladesh is getting the pinch of dry rivers. Further 53 other international  rivers were stopped by [India;] making barrage/dams/ groins virtually making lower riparian country Bangladesh's rivers dry."

During Bangabandu' s rule, the Rakkhi Bahini head was made an Indian. The jute head quarter was transferred to Delhi. With the Mujib -Indira Pact, river demarcation based on the mid current was made for Bangladesh to lose land because the rivers originate from India. Bangladesh is losing land to India, it is now a serious problem. Bangabandu was persuaded to hand over the sovereignty of "BERUBARI" in return of "Tin Bigha."But Tin Bigha was never returned. Lately a Berline wall was built in Bengal to so-called stop Bangladeshis cross the border but mainly intended to permanently divide Bengal. India jammed the Bangladesh TV. As a matter of target practice, India regularly kills Bangladeshi joans in the border region. Even before the investigation, India now blames Bangladesh for every terrorist act within its borders.

History tells us that "due to sinking of several ships in Chittagong Port during Liberation War..., it was difficult to import ...essentials for war torn Bangladesh.. Bangladesh requested India to just to allow using Calcutta Port for only six months," that was in 1972. India refused the request."

2. Without the transit, India's seven non Indian sisters in the North East that now depend on Bangladesh for manufactured goods, but with transit, India will sell its own product to the region and Bangladesh will lose.

3. India doesn't want to allow Bangladesh to have land route with Nepal and Bhutan which is purely for trade purpose, India shows the excuse that it goes against its territorial integrity, using the same logic Bangladesh can not allow transit.
"Bangladesh wanted only 16 miles transit to pave for easy trade between two SAARC countries Bangladesh and Nepal." Now India wants 600 miles of corridor. Bangladesh should never allow transit to India.

4. Financial benefit from transit fees would outweigh its other disadvantages; Bangladesh would risk destroying its own roads and highways, infect its citizens AIDS. Roads and highways will be neglected by the chauvinistic Indian traders and military personnel that will be passing through Bangladesh's heartland.

5. India is an unreliable keeper of promises. It failed to keep up to the signed treaties of Farakka's water sharing and the return of Bangladesh terrory in exchange. India first fix these problems than only trust building will lead to transit. RAW fed Indian chauvinistic government will never go for a fair deal because its sole purpose is to help Bangladesh develop into a failed state.

6. Transit through Bangladesh will allow India to increase its repression in its occupied North East. For such repression, Bangladesh suffered in the hand of Pakistan and now as a peace-loving country, it shouldn't allow India to increase its repression over its non Hindi/ largely Asian/ Christian and Buddhist minority people unfortunate for the people that were made part of India. At the same time such a deal would make these Indian separatists rebels find Bangladesh a target.

7. Indian treaties are politically motivated. While Mujib signed the Mujib-Indra 25 year treaty resulting in the trade deficit, water shortage, border issues dispute, and dependence on India to the India friendly Mujib's unpopularity and within a short period of time made Bangladesh bankrupt, Bangabandu's "the bottomless basket case." Bangabandu' s reliance on an untrustworthy friend even brought his own death.

If the past experience with India is a guide, it is believed that people in favor of transit to India are the ignorant India- lovers popularly known in Bangladesh as the "Indian Razakars" who are inviting trouble for Bangladesh. For such an issue we suggest for a national referendum. If people decide, let it be, if not, never!

Why the CTG to bother on the transit issue which the former two elected governments refused to deal with? It appears that the CTG was brought to power by groups aligned with foreign powers, one of them is India. The CTG brought to power through the excuse of anarchy. It seems CTG backed my Moyeen is now showing its responsibility to its constituency- India.

It was through the AL led unrest and anarchy in the late 2006-2007 that evaded the 90 days limit of the CTG duration. It appears that the CTG's corruption charges are simply excuses to have the minus 2 policy and to install a future Moin U military government! This is now evident in General Moin U, Bangladesh government employee illegally receiving the Indian 7 horses.

As it appears, Bangladesh is infested with RAW agents and unrest in the cities and in tribal areas continue while countries like Vietnam and Singapore continue the pace of development.

Under the circumstances, if transit is allowed through the motherland, the Bangladesh country, it will be as if bringing crocodile through digging a canal. Once transit is given, Bangladesh will not be in a position to take it back, for, India is increasingly becoming powerful. It will kill Bangladeshis with the excuse of being terrorists or drug -dealers, as US does in Columbia with its puppet government. India also has super connection with the Super Power US- Israel. For Bangladesh, India is a danger in the making! Never allow transit to India!

With US help, India is building war fleets and submarines with torpedoes. To keep its growing power from Africa up to Australia, in the Indian Ocean, it is arming itself. Without the transit, Bangladesh's existence is almost threatened but with transit, like the US-Pak former friendship, and today's Pakistan, Bangladesh with the CTG's wide-open US-India love policy will be a breeding ground for anti-US- Indian fundamentalism, which ofcourse US wants as an excuse to keep a military dictatorship. Never allow transit to India!

Finally, why India is forcing Bangladesh's nonelected government for a deal? The answer is, it is it's elected government! India is not a trustworthy friend. Its attitude is to create pressure and seek concession. Bangladesh to survive should never allow transit to India.

Bush''s New Cons in Bangladesh! Why Hasina is silent?

The other development that "US Marine Corps wants to survey BD-India border-Collecting detailed terrain intelligence. US has asked for detailed terrain information about major cities including Dhaka as well as for details of all airports and airstrips in Bangladesh." Who are these people taking advantage of the CTG government? Are these the Americans or Bush's New Cons? Link: The Bangladesh Today:

US Marine Corps want to survey BD-India border-Collecting detailed terrain intelligence
http://www.banglade sh-web.com/ view.php? hidRecord= 210183

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Bangladeshis Unite!

Fight against the RAW installed CTG for an Elected Government!
Help Stop Moyeen to Destroy Democracy!
Amer Sonar Bangladesh Ami Tomai Valobashi!
Save our Motherland Bangladesh!

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[chottala.com] Re: [khabor.com] Dialogue with an Indian

Dear Anand:
The article was about India -Bangladesh relations. It didn't say anything about Indian people but about Indian official policies toward Bangladesh. It angered you. You wrote:
"DID YOU NOTICED THAT THE MORE BANGLADESH BECOMING ISLAMIC, THE MORE IS THE PROBLEMS? MORE ARE THE THIEFS? MORE ARE THE BEGGERS? MORE RAPES? MORE KILLINGS? THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF ISLAMIC COUNTRIES!"
 
 In the past, I met many Indians, I should say all of them were educated and rational people. Onc of them actually stayed at my place and even worshipped Rama in my guest room. He was a vegetaria; knowing that he was coming to visit us, we stopped eating beef. When he was late to arrive by train from New York, I and my wife became anxious, as if he was a family member. Here he came to visit a Bangladeshi, who was not a begger, nor a fundamentalist but that he knew how to treat people with respect. I must say this came from my Islamic tradition. The day he left us he emptied all his gifts for us. This is how I have dealings with people from India. The day I came to the West, the first night's dinner I had was at an Indian family from Delhi. He was my professor.
 
Today, I met you, another Indian, Anand; you call Bangladeshis, "fundamentalist, beggers, communal minded."I realized that if I respond to you equally, I will  only lower my standard to somebody who could say things that will be understandable only to his kind. So I will not reply to you using the same language. But I will quote a great man who knew Islam and the Prophet of Islam differently than you do. Bernard Shaw:
"I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appear to me to possess that assimilating capacity to changing phase of existence which can make appeal to every age. I have studied him, the wonderful man, and in my opinion far from being an anti Christ, he must be called the savior of humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness. "

 

Anand, I will not say anything about your god Rama, except that he must be good to his people. I will not even say anything bad about your monkey god. Honuman is a symbolic expression of a helper. But some people imitate it literally. So I will ask you to read an article written by an educated Indian about your type of people. After you read this,  look your face in the mirror to find out who you are. If you have a bit of rationality, conscious or shame, I am sure you will hide your face from yourself; but if you ase a shallw Indian, silly one, neither you will be ashamed of yourself nor you will refrain from dealing with these very enlightened Bangladeshis, you are calling them "beggers."

This is because you haven't learned to use the human language of showing respect to others. Educated Indians will be ashamed of you for your expressions!!

Abid

 

*The article for you.

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Communalism, Caste and Hindu Nationalism

The Violence in Gujarat

Ornit Shani




   Introduction

Communalism has been an important theme in Indian politics since the 1880s. During the first three decades after independence, even after the partition of the subcontinent into India and Pakistan in 1947, no political force gained substantial power in the name of Hinduism. From the mid-1980s there has been a resurgence of a belligerent and new kind of Hindu nationalism in India's public life and in its political institutions. In the main, the Hindu nationalist movement has defined itself in opposition to Islam and Muslims. Hindu revivalists have promoted a claim that the Muslim minority in India threatens Hindus and have sought to establish India as a primarily Hindu nation (rashtra), based on a notion of Hindu ethos, values and religion. The ideology and politics of Hindutva – the quality of being a Hindu – was accompanied by a rapid increase in large-scale communal (Hindu–Muslim) riots in the 1980s and 1990s.1 Major communal violence spread throughout India in 1990 and following the destruction of the Babri Masjid mosque at Ayodhya in 1992.

   Gujarat, one of India's most prosperous states, has been vital for the growth of communalism. Since the mid-1980s Gujarat became the site of recurring communal violence. The state turned into a nerve centre for the Hindu nationalist movement and has come to be seen as the Hindutva laboratory. The rising communalism in Gujarat culminated in a massacre of Muslims in many parts of the state in February 2002. The complicity of state officials in the killings raised doubts about the ability of the state to govern and to uphold the rule of law. It also demonstrated that such carnage in a country with one of the largest Muslim populations in the world had the potential for destabilising India's democracy and the secular consensus on which it was built.

   Hindu nationalist politics rose with the growth of the popularity of a family of extremist Hindu organisations, known as the Sangh Parivar. The most prominent organisations have been the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP) and the Bajrang Dal. These groups, with tens of thousands of members, had their origins, respectively, in the 1920s, 1960s and 1980s. The political face of the Hindutva movement, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), was founded in 1980 as a reconstitution of the Jan Sangh Party. Both at the national level and in Gujarat the BJP became a leading political force and came to power in the 1990s. In 1996 the party was able to form a minority government at the centre, but it fell after two weeks. In both the 1998 and 1999 parliament (Lok Sabha) elections the BJP emerged as the largest party, winning 182 out of the 543 Lok Sabha seats, forming a government with its allies in the National Democratic Alliance. The BJP and its allies lost the 2004 elections, with BJP seats in parliament declining to 138, even though its share of the vote only decreased slightly.

The BJP's Performance in the Parliament (Lok Sabha) and Gujarat Assembly Elections2



     Gujarat Assembly    Parliament (Lok Sabha)
  % of vote No. of seats % of vote No. of seats
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1980   14.02 9
1984   7.40 2
1985   14.96 11
1989   11.36 85
1990   26.69 67
1991   20.07 120
1995   42.51 121
1996   20.29 161
1998   44.81 117 25.59 182
1999   23.75 182
2002   49.85 127
2004   22.16 138
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _____

   Communalism has conventionally been understood by scholars, colonial administrators and policy makers as a sectarian conflict between Hindus and Muslims. In recent years, a significant scholarship has questioned the sectarian nature of this conflict. This book is a contribution to this literature, and sets out to trace the nature of the revival of communalism since the 1980s from a different point of departure. Its central hypothesis is that the growth of communalism in the last two decades of the twentieth century did not lie in Hindu–Muslim antagonism alone. The growing appeal of Hindutva, and its inherent

 

 

 

 


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Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 2:55:24 PM
Subject: Re: [khabor.com] 7 Reasons Why Bangladesh Should Never Allow Transit to India

 I WONDER IF IT WAS NOT INDIA, BUT A MUSLIM COUNTRY, SHALL ALL THE FOLKS WOULD SAY THE SAME? CENTER OF ALL REASONING IS COMMUNALISM, IT IS HARD FOR THESE PEOPLE TO GO BEYOND COMMUNALISM!!
DID YOU NOTICED THAT THE MORE BANGLADESH BECOMING ISLAMIC, THE MORE IS THE PROBLEMS? MORE ARE THE THIEFS? MORE ARE THE BEGGERS? MORE RAPES? MORE KILLINGS? THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF ISLAMIC COUNTRIES!
HAVE FUN!!

2008/7/17 Isha Khan <bd_mailer@yahoo.com>:

7 Reasons Why Bangladesh Should Never Allow Transit to India
 

By Abid Bahar, Canada

The issue is, the CTG is not an elected government and transit is an issue related to sovereignty, security and economic factors. The News Today Monday July 14 2008 reported: "The [CTG] government earlier was sympathetic about the transit issue. It was in a mood to propose to India to conduct a feasibility study on the rail transit but the Indian High Commissioner''s public statement on this sensitive issue has forced the government to change its earlier position" the source said. Why should CTG show interest in it is question repeatedly asked in Bangladesh!

Why Bangladesh should never allow transit to India. Here are the reasons:

1. India has proven itself as an untrustworthy friend. During the liberation war, while helping Bangladesh liberation, it secretly built the Farakka dam. "Farakka was commissioned on permission from Mujib on the condition that it will have test run for only 40 days. But unfortunately those 40 days is yet to be finished (even after 37 years) and Bangladesh is getting the pinch of dry rivers. Further 54 other international waters were stopped by the friend of BAL making barrage/dams/ groins virtually making lower riparian country Bangladesh's rivers dry."

During Mujib time, the Rakkhi Bahini head was made an Indian. The jute head quarter was transferred to Delhi. With the Mujib -Indira Pact, river demarcation based on the mid current was made a farce. Bangladesh is losing land. It is now a serious problem. Mujib was persuaded to hand over the sovereignty of "BERUBARI" in return of "Tin Bigha."But Tin Bigha was never returned. A Berline wall was built in Bengal to so-called stop Bangladeshis cross the border. India jammed the Bangladesh TV. As a matter of target practice, India regularly kills Bangladeshi joans in the border region. Even before the investigation, India blames Bangladesh for terrorist actions within its borders.

"Due to sinking of several ships in Chittagong Port during Liberation War..., it was difficult to import ...essentials for war torn Bangladesh. Bangladesh requested India to just to allow using Calcutta Port for only six months in 1972. India refused the request." "Bangladesh wanted only 16 miles transit to pave for easy trade between two SAARC countries Bangladesh and Nepal." But it was refused. Now India wants 600 miles of corridor. Bangladesh should never allow transit to India.

2. Without the transit, India's seven non Indian sisters in the North East that now depend on Bangladesh for manufactured goods, but with transit, India will sell its own product to the region and Bangladesh will lose.

3. India doesn't want to allow Bangladesh to have land route with Nepal and Bhutan which is purely for trade purpose, India shows the excuse that it goes against its territorial integrity, using the same logic Bangladesh can not allow transit.

4. Financial benefit from transit fees would outweigh its other disadvantages. Bangladesh would risk destroying its own roads and highways, infect its citizens AIDS. Roads and highways will be neglected by the chauvinistic Indian traders and military personnel are passing through Bangladesh's heartland.

5. India is an unreliable keeper of promises. It failed to keep up to the signed treaties of Barubari/ Farakka. India first fix these problems than only trust building will lead to transit.. RAW fed Indian chauvinistic government will never go for a fair deal because its sole purpose is to help Bangladesh into a failed state.

6. Transit through Bangladesh will allow India to increase its repression in its occupied North East. For such repression, Bangladesh suffered in the hand of Pakistan and now as a peace-loving country, it shouldn't allow India to increase its repression over its non Hindi/ largely Asian/ Christian and Buddhist minority people unfortunately made part of India. At the same time such a deal would make Indian separatists rebels make Bangladesh a target.

7. Indian treaties are politically motivated. While Mujib signed the Mujib-Indra Treaty 25 year treaty results in the beginning of trade deficit, water shortage, border issues dispute, and dependence on India resulting in the India friendly Mujib's unpopularity and within a short period of time made Bangladesh bankrupt, "the bottomless basket case" and brought his own death. If the past experience with India is a guide, it is believed that people in favor of transit to India are the ignorant India- lovers popularly known in Bangladesh as the "Indian Razakars" who are inviting trouble for Bangladesh. For such an issue we suggest for a national referendum. If people decide, let it be, if not, never!

Why the CTG to bother on the transit issue which the former two governments? It appears that the CTG was brought to power by groups aligned with foreign powers, one of them is India. The CTG brought to power through the excuse of anarchy. It seems it is showing its responsibility to its constituency-India.

It was through the AL led unrest and anarchy in late 2006-2007 that evaded the 90 days limit of the CTG duration. It appears that the CTG's corruption charges are not real but to have the minus 2 policy and to install a future Moin U military government! This is now evident in General Moin U receiving the Indian 7 horses.

As it appears, Bangladesh is infested with RAW agents and unrest in the cities and in tribal areas continues while countries like Vietnam and Singapore continues the pace of development.

If allowed transit within the country, it will be bringing crocodile through digging a canal. Once transit is given, Bangladesh will not be in a position to take it back. India is increasingly becoming powerful. It will kill Bangladeshis with the excuse of being terrorists or drug -dealers, as US does in Columbia with its puppet government. India also has super connection with the Super Power US- Israel. For Bangladesh, India is a danger in the making! Never allow transit to India!

India is building war fleets and torpedoes to keep its growing power from Africa up to Australia in the Indian Ocean. Without the transit, Bangladesh's existence is almost threatened but with transit, like the US-Pak former friendships, and today's Pakistan, Bangladesh will be a breeding ground for anti-US- Indian fundamentalism. Never allow transit to India!

Finally, why India is forcing Bangladesh's nonelected government for a deal? The answer is India is not a trustworthy friend. Its attitude is to create pressure and seek concession. Bangladesh to survive should never allow transit to India.

Bush''s New Cons in Bangladesh! Why Hasina is silent?

The other development that "US Marine Corps wants to survey BD-India border-Collecting detailed terrain intelligence. US has asked for detailed terrain information about major cities including Dhaka as well as for details of all airports and airstrips in Bangladesh." Who are these people taking advantage of the CTG government? Are these the Americans or Bush's New Cons? Link: The Bangladesh Today:

US Marine Corps want to survey BD-India border-Collecting detailed terrain intelligence
http://www.bangladesh-web.com/view.php?hidRecord=210183

Bangladeshis Unite!
Fight against the CTG for an Elected Government!
Save our Motherland Bangladesh!


Abid Bahar, Canada
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[chottala.com] The Liberation War of 1971and Islamic "Fun-da-Mental-ism"

The Liberation War of 1971and Islamic "Fun-da-Mental-ism"

Friday July 18 2008 17:42:16 PM BDT

Mac Haque, Bangladesh

I have not been writing for sometimes given my very busy work schedule which allows me little time for any creative pursuit. However, I happened to come across this piece I wrote sometimes in 1996 which I think still has relevance to present times. I hope you will find it worth a read. Thanks. Mac Haque]

The Liberation War of 1971, was following a rejection of the people of Bangladesh to the rulers of Pakistan, who carried out the worst carnage known to man with a systematic reign of genocide and ethnic cleansing all in the name of Islam. The racist Pakistani mindset chose to demean the predominantly Bengalee Muslim population with insinuations of being lesser Muslims or Hindu converts when it cried out against oppression and demanded freedom.

With the plea of 'Islam being in grave danger', the murder machine employed local lackeys and collaborators to further their evil design - and by the time it all ended nine gruesome months later on the 16th of December 1971, millions of Bengalee - the majority being Muslims in particular, perished. The actual number of dead in our war has always been debated, however what we choose to forget is even in the greatest wars for the establishment of Islam all over the world 1500 years back, less than two thousand Muslim's lost their lives! The carnage in Bangladesh is perhaps the worst case of Muslim/Muslim carnage in Islamic history. In Bangladesh insane Pakistani Muslim mindset chose to slaughter millions of their fellow Bengalee Muslims - with only one claim, 'superior man' or superior Muslims.

Out of the ruins of that traumatic war, we were born a nation with a deep identity crisis. While secularism became one of our states pillar - the secular possibilities in Islam was never explored - and consequently communal and reactionary forces harped on by hate propaganda, chose to demonize Islam - and attempts were made to strip Bengalee Muslims off an identity that they had lived with for thousands of years.

Meanwhile, lot of us took comfort in calling ourselves secular, without realizing that the Bengalee tradition and culture by and large has always been secular with Hinduism, Buddhism and Islam - never interfering in affairs of state. Complex was our attempt to preach secularism in alien diction to a population that had all elements of secularism already present. The resultant confusion created the kind the situation that encouraged more demons of distrust and intolerance to rise and raise their heads. Liberals were swearing at Islamist as fundamentalist, while extremist considered liberals as atheist and heretics.

Came a time, through intrigue and conspiracy the remnants of the collaborators, the hate monger returned to the limelight of Bangladesh's political history. In no time they swerved public opinions and whilst they democratically remain a microscopic minority, their public profile thanks to the press and gross mistakes of our liberals, appeared to threaten Bangladesh's very existence. It pained me greatly to see that we were unable to do anything to clarify our actual position - so great was our fear of the extremist, and so great was our ignorance. Great also was our fear that choosing Islam would mean being condemned to the 'back seat' of progress.

While we preached secularism without reference to its natural existence in our culture - a new minority trend rose among liberals that equated all cap and beard wearing Muslim into the 'fundamentalist' mindset. This together with the term 'razakar' or collaborator equated simple God fearing Muslims to the category of national enemies.

While it is true that predominantly Muslims chose to side with the Pakistan murder machine - what is never discussed in public is that many Hindu, Buddhist and Christian Bengalees also collaborated with the enemy. No other community therefore, other than the Muslim in Bangladesh had to pay a higher price for their personal belief system. A generation of cap and beard sporting Muslims born after the Liberation War and with no connection to that period of infamy in our national history, are considered national enemies - only because they are practicing Muslims, and wear its habits scrupulously.

That misunderstanding was the bone of contention and further divided Bangladesh and all plural aspect of its society. The Taslima Nasreen controversy further exacerbated the crisis and more and more Islamist extremist spread hates - as also the old hysteria of 'Islam is in danger' was revived.

What liberals forgot, is the Liberation War was fought NOT as a rejection to Islam, but specifically Islamic extremism of the Pakistan State. The Pakistani fatwa of Bengalee Muslims being Hindu, was proved wrong as 28 years since our liberation - more than 90% of our population still subscribe to the Islamic faith. Clearly Islam has never been in any danger of extinction in Bangladesh, and remains after Indonesia the second most populous state with an Islamic population.

Liberals were left a clear option - either to side with the common people or, align with the city bred and based intellectuals preaching a brand of secularism that was misconstrued as atheism or Hinduism. The communal frenzy of hate and suspicion amongst community continues in Bangladesh till this day... but thankfully its is not as serious a situation as is made out to be by the media, which has taken on the fashionable culture of anti-Islamic bias so popular in the West. Hindu's, Buddhist and Christians enjoy a large degree of religious autonomy and freedom in Bangladesh.

For a Muslim God fearing liberal such as me, from a unique Buddhist and Persian lineage, with liberal agnosticism being the backbone of a culture in which I grew up, and a missionary school and college education in my formative years, I could not accept this deep divide and was deeply pained. I knew all along that contrary to popular misconception, Islam did not permit fundamentalism or coercions of any kind. The concept of jihad is the worst nightmare we have, in that our religious extremist have chosen the jihad of weapons - considered among the lower forms of jihad as their political agenda - as opposed to the highest form of jihad, knowledge, logic, arguments, examinations and debate.

Abridged:

Mac Haque
Bangladesh
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[chottala.com] 2 BDR guards gunned down by BSF

 

 

 
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The Border Security Force of India (BSF) shot dead two Bangladesh Rifles (BDR) soldiers at Raghunathpur border under Shibganj upazila in Chainawabganj early yesterday intruding into Bangladesh territory, sparking off tension at all frontiers around the country.

The killings coincided with foreign-secretary level talks between the two neighboring countries in New Delhi, and took place just hours after both sides on Thursday pledged more cooperation in enhancing cross-border trade and security.

BDR officials said BSF guards opened fired on their personnel when they challenged the latter for illegally entering about 1,300 yards into Bangladesh territory shortly after Thursday midnight.

A group of BSF guards from Neemtita camp under Murshidabad district entered Bangladesh crossing the River Padma on a speedboat and walked over a risen shoal to Raghunathpur village of Durlobhpur union under Shibganj upazila near pillar No 110.

Being informed, a patrol team of BDR from Raghunathpur border post led by Habilder Abdul Hannan Sarker rushed to the village and challenged the intruding BSF men for violating the line of control, reported our Chapainawabganj correspondent.

Two BSF bullets hit Hannan while six hit Lance Nayek Krishnopodo Saha as BSF men suddenly opened fire on them, killing them instantly.

Forces from the 39th rifles battalion later recovered the body of Hannan, 55 of Kritunia Durgahat village under Gabtoli in Bogra, and of Saha, 28, of Kholabari Shimakhali village under Shalikha upazila in Magura.

The bodies of the slain BDR soldiers were sent to their homes after post-mortem in Chapainawabganj Sadar Hospital.

Our staff correspondent from Rajshahi reported quoting a villager Atul Gani that the bodies were recovered from a pool of blood. "Blood marks were also on the trail of BSF men's escape path," said the villager.

Immediately after the killings, BDR retaliated with full force trading over 200 rounds of shots with BSF for about an hour.

"BSF intruded illegally and opened fire without any provocation," Director (Operation and Training) of BDR Col Abdul Halim told a hurriedly arranged news briefing at BDR Headquarters in Dhaka.

"In the face of BDR's counter attack, the BSF men fled leaving their speedboat behind," Halim said adding that they also arrested an Indian national from the spot.

"We've been informed that a BSF member also died in the gunfight," he told reporters. "The incident could have been prevented had the BSF not opened fire."

BDR strongly protested the incident. "It's a serious border violation by BSF," Lt Col Golam Kibria Md Neyamatullah, commanding officer (CO) of the 39th battalion, told The Daily Star.

BDR members seized the speedboat left by intruding BSF personnel, a walkie-talkie, a BSF cap, and bullet casings from the scene.

Terming the killings of BDR personnel by BSF a serious incident, Foreign Adviser Iftekhar Ahmed Chowdhury said Dhaka will protest to Delhi after getting a full probe report.

"We consider the murders a serious incident," Iftekhar told The Daily Star yesterday afternoon.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs in a statement condemned the killings.

BDR high officials including Commander of Rajshahi Sector Col Mohammad Iqbal, and the CO of the 39th battalion visited the spot yesterday morning.

The killings stirred tensions at other frontiers also where BDR deployed reinforcements ordering them to remain on high alert.

Our correspondents from bordering districts said reinforcements were made at the borders and were kept alert since the morning. Residents of border areas were also seen on guard shoulder to shoulder with BDR personnel.

BDR also warned villagers and farmers of border areas to refrain from going to zero point areas for cultivation. An uneasy calm has been prevailing at the frontiers.

BDR said BSF continues to fire on Bangladesh border guards and unarmed civilians despite repeated commitments in different forums for showing restraint and maintaining peace and harmony at the border.
 



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[chottala.com] Initiative to affirm a resolution condemning Bangladesh Genocide in US congress

Dear all
 
37 year after the henious and barbaric genocide committed by Pakistan Army and its collaborators
some members of US house of representatives are taking initiative to condemn Bangladesh Genocide (1971)
in US congress.
 
House Homeland Security Chairman Peter King , House Majority whip NY Congressman Joe Crowley.
Pennsylvania Congressman Joe Sestak and Virginia congressman Jim Moran will lead the initiative.
 
The resolution will condemn the Bangladesh genocide of 1971 committed by Pakistan Army and its collaborators
and demand trial of the war criminals. This resolution will be similar to the resolution condemning the Armenian
genocide almost 92 year after the genocide committed in Armenia by the Ottoman Turks
 
Please  detains at::
 
 
The world has not forgotten Armenian Genocide, the world will not forget Bangladesh Genocide either!
 
Bangladeshi activists  meeting Congressman Joe Crowley at the Capital hill
 
Bangladeshi activists  meeting Congressman Peter King at the Capital hill
 
 
Armenian Genocide - Not forgotten
 
FYI, in October 2007 US congress affirmed  a resolution condemning the Armenian
genocide almost 92 year after the genocide committed in Armenia by the Ottoman Turks
Affirmation of the United States Record on the Armenian Genocide Resolution -
Calls upon the President to ensure that U.S. foreign policy reflects appropriate understanding
and sensitivity concerning issues related to human rights, ethnic cleansing, and genocide
documented in the U.S. record relating to the Armenian Genocide and the consequences
of the failure to realize a just resolution and in the President's annual message commemorating
the Armenian Genocide to characterize the systematic and deliberate annihilation of 1.5 million
Armenians as genocide.
 
Note: Killing of up to 1.5 million Armenians by Ottoman Turks around the time of World War I,
an event widely viewed by genocide scholars as the first genocide of the 20th century. Turkey
denies that the deaths constituted genocide, says the toll has been inflated, and insists that
those killed were victims of civil war and unrest.
[Sounds familiar - Genocide in Bangladesh and denials by the traitors and collaborators]
 
Syed Aslam
 
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[chottala.com] Mandela celebrates 90th birthday, lifetime of freedom fighting

 

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[chottala.com] Why susil media(alu-star) supporting dual evils?

When Sadek Hossain khoka got bail in the evening after arrest warrant n the moring, out susil media  didn't raise  any voice.

 

  Rather they were ashamed to take the nameof the DCC mayor when they published  report about dangerous condition of Roads in Dhaka city.

 

 But now when Nizami has got bail, they have lost sleep. If  the the bail of nizami is unusal, they may loose sleep. But my question is : Why they favor opportunist and corrupt Sadek hossain khoka.

 

Is it that  to be favored by our susil media , some one need to be both corrupt and opportunists?

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