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[chottala.com] Gaddafi: Africa's 'king of kings'

 
 

Gaddafi: Africa's 'king of kings'

Africa's kings around Col Gaddafi

A meeting of more than 200 African kings and traditional rulers has bestowed the title "king of kings" on Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

The rulers, wearing gold crowns, sequined capes and colourful robes met in the Libyan town of Benghazi in what was billed as a first of its kind.
Col Gaddafi urged the royals to join his campaign for African unity.
Africa's political leaders are lukewarm about his vision of merging their powers to create a single government.
"We want an African military to defend Africa, we want a single African currency, we want one African passport to travel within Africa," Col Gaddafi told the assembled dignitaries, who come from countries such as Mozambique, South Africa, Ivory Coast and the Democratic Republic of Congo.
The BBC's Rana Jawad in the Mediterranean town of Benghazi says Libya's leader wants them to create a grass-roots movement to press Africa's political leaders to sign up to his vision.
Sheikh Abdilmajid from Tanzania told the BBC that the traditional rulers could play an important role.
"The people believe in the chiefs and kings more than they believe in their governments," he said.



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[FutureOfBangladesh] Re: [Dahuk]: Some food for thought-'I AM A COMPETE NEUTRAL PERSON'

Bhai Enayet,
 
You are NOT getting my point.  The purpose of this study was NOT to show who is great or not.  And there was NO pilitical intention behind this,  this was a complete professional job.
 
I think fact is far different than what some people publicize and rumor.
 
If I really want to compare,  these numbers show the actual situation and I do NOT have to add any comment.
 
-Mr. Abul


--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Dahuk]: Some food for thought-'I AM A COMPETE NEUTRAL PERSON'
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com, "khabor" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, BanglaPolitics@yahoogroups.com, banglarnari@yahoogroups.com, bdstudents@yahoogroups.com, bristi_namai@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com, dahuk@yahoogroups.com, Diagnose@yahoogroups.com, FutureOfBangladesh@yahoogroups.com, motamoth@yahoo.com, mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, sa7rong@yahoogroups.com, uttorshuri@yahoogroups.com, vinnomot@yahoogroups.com, "Abdul Gaffar Choudhury" <agchoudhury@aol.com>, emdad555@yahoo.com, fatemolla@hotmail.com, "Jamal Hasan" <poplu@hotmail.com>, "Shamim_Personal chowdhury" <veirsmill@yahoo.com>, "GopalSengupta@aol.com" <gopalsengupta@aol.com>, "Sitangshu Guha" <guhasb@gmail.com>, "Arif Ahamed" <ahamed.ahmed@gmail.com>, srshaheed374@hotmail.com, "Mr. Abul" <abuilla@yahoo.com>, think_tank_habib@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 2:24 PM

Mr Abul:
 
Your food for thought does not really make sense by citing the examples you have provided. In economics terms, the price of rice in 1972 vs 1975 does not really matter.
 
Any progress of the society is judged by people's buying competency (considering inflation, global impact), not by the price!
 
A progress also measured by the social justice, social development index, employment rate, law and order etc.
 
There is a major policy difference between Mujib's policy comparing Zia's. Zia was more geared to progress the country for economical benefit, thus BNP.
 
Mujib was more interested to have an absolute power and was more of a idological bufoon, socialism was his mantra.
 
Mujib was a great leader, Zia was a great visionary.
 
I adore Mujib, but I dislike his governance and abuse of power.
 
Lets accept the differences!
 
 
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 On Sun, 8/24/08, Mr. Abul <abuilla@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Mr. Abul <abuilla@yahoo. com>
Subject: [chottala.com] Re: [ALOCHONA] Some food for thought-'I AM A COMPETE NEUTRAL PERSON'
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "khabor" <khabor@yahoogroups. com>, BanglaPolitics@ yahoogroups. com, banglarnari@ yahoogroups. com, bdstudents@yahoogro ups.com, bristi_namai@ yahoogroups. com, chottala@yahoogroup s.com, dahuk@yahoogroups. com, Diagnose@yahoogroup s.com, FutureOfBangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, motamoth@yahoo. com, mukto-mona@yahoogro ups.com, sa7rong@yahoogroups .com, uttorshuri@yahoogro ups.com, vinnomot@yahoogroup s.com, "Abdul Gaffar Choudhury" <agchoudhury@ aol.com>, emdad555@yahoo. com, fatemolla@hotmail. com, "Jamal Hasan" <poplu@hotmail. com>, "Shamim_Personal chowdhury" <veirsmill@yahoo. com>, "GopalSengupta@ aol.com" <gopalsengupta@ aol.com>, "Sitangshu Guha" <guhasb@gmail. com>, "Arif Ahamed" <ahamed.ahmed@ gmail.com>, srshaheed374@ hotmail.com, "Mr. Abul" <abuilla@yahoo. com>, think_tank_habib@ yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 7:12 AM

Bhai Mohd. Haque,
 
Assalamualaikum and thanks for your great thoughts.
 
By NEUTRALITY what I mean is, I am not biased to any political party in BD.  All of them have done some good and bad things, in fact I have a mixed feeling about all of them.
 
I did some research about 72~75 Government and found the following data (that I shared in my e-mail bellow).  This was done in a completely professional manner (NOT for political reasons).  The problem is some people reacted to this e-mail very personally (I am not sure about their political stand, but seems like they are pro BNP, Jamaat).
 
The reason I shared this data is as follows, if anybody can show me that this data is false or there is any thing else that I should take a look into, I will be more than happy to accept that.  But none of the opponents of this e-mail show ANY number/logic, they just procrastinated by name calling !!!
 
Can't we go beyond our political bias just for once and think logically??? ?

Thanks and best regards.
 
-Abul

--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Mohd. Haque <haquetm83@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Mohd. Haque <haquetm83@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Some food for thought-'I AM A COMPETE NEUTRAL PERSON'
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 1:35 AM

Now a days people, with pride perhaps, like to attach their own testimony that 'he is a completely neutral person'. This should have been the result of the utter failure of our leaders and many, cunningly trying to disassociate themselves with their (leader's) political myth and fantasy. But testifying this is a utter lie.

 

The environment we live in and the culture that is being made into our mindset, none of us can practically disconnect from the streams that flows through.

 

You should be proud of being a supporter of AL, BNP, Jamaat, JP or even Sarbahara. We all are different, that is only natural. Bhashani, Sheikh Mujib, Ziaur Rahman, Siraj Sikdar, Abdul Haq, Amol Sen, for your own reason you can support any of them and dream of a Bangladesh of your making through your mentor's philosophy. They are all Bangladeshi, sons of the soil.

Beside their good works and wisdom, being a human they had their limitation too and made many mistakes. Their good works gave us hope and their bad works or wrong decisions made us to suffer. What is needed as an independent person (and I strongly urge you to be independent( not neutral), that is being yourself) you should not support the wrongs of your leader; however, that is the mistakes we all are doing. We are loosing our beings and submitting ourselves.

 Back of your mind what you nourish is well being of our people- people of Bangladesh and that is why you will stand against the wrong decisions that goes against the general well being. And that is only good and good for our people. Often you may not be successful in your stand but be proud of yourself being a supporter of Mujib, Zia or any one else. But do not loose your esteem, your own sovereignty.   

--- On Fri, 15/8/08, Mr. Abul <abuilla@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Mr. Abul <abuilla@yahoo. com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Some food for thought
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Date: Friday, 15 August, 2008, 9:56 PM

Hello Everybody,
 
Today is National Mourning Day.  One of the worst assassinations of human history happened this day in 1975.  Let's take a moment to pray for the souls who died on this day.
 
Here are some food for thought:
 
1.  Salt was 80 taka/kg in '74, but when Bongobondhu was killed it was 2 taka/kg
 
2.  Per capita international  loan in '75 was ~ 950/= and 5,000/= during Ziaur Rahman and currently it's sky high
 
3.  National GDP rate was 7% in '75 which was NEVER achieved later. So why was Bongobondhu killed in '75 ???????  Why NOT in '74 or in '73 or in '72 ?????  Can anybody answer ???
 
Thanks and best regards.
 
- Mr. Abul
A complete neutral person


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[chottala.com] Make dhaka more livable city

Dear all,
Day by day the number of private cars increases in Dhaka City. This is fuelled by the fact that the private cars have been given priority in transport planning. More private cars, however, means more pollution, both noise and air. Not only does a car dependent transport system hurt the environment; it also uses up a lot of fuel, making our economy heavily fuel dependent. Transport planning that focuses on private cars benefit only a tiny portion of the population while making it harder for the majority to get around. If the current transport plan will be implemented about 80% of the population will be neglected. For the 80% of the population that will be left out of the current transport plan one would need to develop pedestrian, fuel-free transport, and public transport infrastructure. For these we need to combine city planning with transport planning. Neighborhoods should contain everything needed for daily life such as, schools, jobs, shops, hospitals and entertainment. This would reduce the number of long trips between neighborhoods and lessen the volume of traffic on the roads. The short trips that would be needed within the neighborhoods walking and cycle rickshaws should suffice and if the infrastructure is improved it would increase speed and safety. For long distance travel out public transport must be developed. It is very necessary to control the number of private cars in order to create a better transport system as well as creating a more livable city.

Syed Siful Alam Shovan
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[chottala.com] Re: [Sonar Bangladesh] Fwd: Khaleda’s asset - many question: She as well as Zia also were not honest – her assets prove that - Khaleda is a traditional liar - which are transmitted to their sons Tarek-Koko

Dear Mr. Shafiq,

We did not find anything what you told. please stop your propaganda. and donot try to divide our nations.

We never wants to know about that how Sheikh Hasina use two luxurious custom made SUV MERECEDES , 

We the people of Bangladesh i.e. Bangladeshies request you stop your propaganda like JEWS and Indians, we have no time to quarrel, now the time is for go ahead by making United Bangladesh.  



--- On Fri, 29/8/08, Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan <srbanunz@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan <srbanunz@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sonar Bangladesh] Fwd: Khaleda's asset - many question: She as well as Zia also were not honest – her assets prove that - Khaleda is a traditional liar - which are transmitted to their sons Tarek-Koko
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Date: Friday, 29 August, 2008, 5:39 PM

From: Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan <srbanunz@gmail. com>
Date: Aug 8, 2007 11:43 PM
Subject: Khaleda's asset - many question: She as well as Zia also were not honest – her assets prove that - Khaleda is a traditional liar - which are transmitted to their sons Tarek-Koko
 
 

Dear politically conscious & enthusiastic journalist, editors, columnist, political scientist, writers readers,

 

 
Please read these following news, about Khaleda Zia's assets & some logical comment on it.

 

These are inquisitive analysis fort for enthusiastic peoples. You may find interesting to read it.

 

 

Khaleda's asset - many question: She as well as Zia also were not honest – her assets prove that - Khaleda is a traditional liar - which are transmitted to their sons Tarek-Koko - 8.8.07

 

http://bhorerkagoj. net/online/ news.php? id=6502&sys=3

 

http://bhorerkagoj. net/online/ news.php? id=6431&sys=3

 

 

Khaleda's assets is only 3.5 crore – value of 4 lots & houses (Cantonment, Banani, Uttor Khan and Savar) are only about 12,507 BDT and Tk 50, 000 as FDR by Zia

 

http://www.thedaily sangbad.com/ index.php? news_id=38765&nature=1&cat_id=1&date=2007-08- 07

 

http://www.newagebd .com/front. html#4

 

http://www.thedaily star.net/ 2007/08/07/ d7080701044. htm

 

These news prove that Khaleda is a traditional liar and Zia had also supported her.

Gen Zia also suppressed those assets (two lots of land in Dhaka and 50,000 BDT as FDR).

 

Our questions are:

 

How Gen Zia has got these assets & money?

 

What Gen Safiullah had at that time?

 

What Gen Khaled Mosharrf had at that time?

 

What Coln Taher had at that time?

 

They were almost in same rank in Pak Army.

 

 

I hope that enthusiastic journalist, editors, columnist, political scientist, writers will write more on the above subject.
 
 
"Sustha thakon, nirapade thakon ebong valo thakon"

Shuvechhante,

Shafiqur Rahman Bhuiyan (ANU)

NEW ZEALAND. 

N.B.: If any one is offended by content of this e-mail, please ignore & delete this e-mail. I also request you to inform me by an e- mail - to delete your name from my contact list.


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