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Thursday, December 6, 2007

[chottala.com] Student Politics + Free thought Royal Bengal Tigers.

Dear All
For establishing fair & neutral Govt Administrations, for
establishing fair & neutral Judicial Department it needs to appoint
the people who are not doing party politics in their student life &
not doing politics before joining in the service to Govt
Administrations or Judicial Department.
So the ules & laws should be made for the students that the students
who want to do party politics in their student life may do but they
will not get job in any Govt Administration or Judicial Department
after finishing their study.
It should need to remember that the teachers are the paid service
holders for doing the teaching works to make the students as
competent citizens by providing them update correct education.
So it is now very essential duty for the nation to look whether the
teachers are doing their duty teaching WORKS correctly & honestly
such as taking the classes in time giving the students correct
lessons & taking the examition giving the result in due time
OR
they are doing party politics not taking classes not taking
examination not giving result in time only they are doing free
thought execirses thinking themselves free thought valued persons as
like as Royal Bengal Tigers.

gopalsengupta@aol.com wrote:
Should political parties use students for campaigning and operating
polling booths?
Political parties often use students for campaigning and to man
polling booths on voting day. While teachers say this is a waste of
time and that students should instead be studying, others say it is a
good way to initiate youngsters into politics. Here are comments from
several students:
No, I dont think that its wise to utilise our youth energy in such a
waste because by putting them to such work will not only hamper their
precious time of studies but also will shape the mind of youth in the
same manner as the current politics is working.Its being rightly said
that IDEA can change your life same is their for nation so please
dont place wrong footprints on this wet cement which is our youths
mind and let them generate new ideas to make this country regain its
past glory.

Students should not be involved in any political affair because this
will drive their thinking to easy way of fame, name and easy cash.
Students may associate with meetings or writing essays on political
subject but till schooling/college studies is over do not engage in
any politics. all attention must be diverted for studies only.

I think this good if students are interested with the dynamic
thinking of serious career in politics to remove our older
politicians which are behave bad day by day and not thinking about
basic need of public and about country which going on which track. on
the another way this total waste of time by student and which
utilised by the political parties for them benefit not for student
future. this topic is demanding a healthy thinking about student
which are future of my,u and for all who interesting to progress our
country, society.

I personally think, students if at all want to join politics then it
should be his/her personal choice. even few critics says that student
job are to study and not involve himself/herself to dirty politics.
but i should suggest that it is dirty because we students are not
working and participating in it. we do any work other then do
anything for any political party(i.e. working for benefits of our on
people), because we think one's we get involve in it is difficult to
cut off. in nutshell student on his own choice should join it because
it is part of our own system and we must do something good for our
own motherland by selecting good political party (which really wants
to work for every individual of this country).

The mature students who are adult and eligible for voting should be
allowed to take part. It should be fully volunteer work. The
political parties should not entice them by paying them stipend,
boarding and lodging, free food and drinks and sometimes free travel
to long distances. If still local students want to support a
political party and distribute pamphlets, talk to neighbourhood
people its fine. No thugs and browbeats ever should be brought near
them. No arms ever be provided to them come what it may.

No, not at all. Student should concentrate on studies in place of
going to politics.

Well I will say yes to this question, But at the wish of the
Students. Students who campaign are matured enough who go for
campaigning, So if a student from the biggest force of student
community goes out to some one and say that this guy is good, but at
the same time he should let them know the credentials of the guy who
is fighting the election.
It becomes the soul responsibility of the student to choose the right
guy and spread that information and help general people to cast their
votes to the right guy. Students are the right people because a lot
depends on us for the betterment of us, our family and for our
country on our decision. We are the one who are going to transform
india into a developed country, and that can be done by the people.
So My friends let's go ahead and choose the right guy for next five
years and let others know about them.

Main job of students is to study well and compete for good grade and
class. They should not be made to join politics that too indian dirty
politics of strikes, corruption, murders etc to become rich. Even in
schools and colleges there should be union to conduct sports, debate,
bringing outside lecturers for technical lectures and good advice.
Politics can be practised only after good education. Besides students
must study how present day politics is working by reading papers and
viewing TVs news debate, etc. and can bring in good politics only
after their political career.

Campuses are the places where the politicians find students and turn
them into leaders of tomorrow

Parents send their children to schools and colleges to study the
subjects and to grow in wisdom to be dutiful citizens. They should
never be used by any political parties for campaigns or propaganda.
They are free to join any party and work full time once they choose
the same after their study.

I think it's a shear waste of time for the students getting engaged
in campaigning and operating polling booths. For the very simple
reason that politics is not only associated to campaigning and
operating polling booths. It's much more than that. It's about
practising and conducting political affairs. And a person should
understand his constitution, rules and regulations to enter politics.
I think the political parties are just making use of these youngsters
for their own benefits and once the elections get over, the
politicians don't even pay heed to them.

There should not be any election at all in the educational
institutions. Forget about using students for ulterior political
motives.

No! Not at all. Politics is much more than just campaigning,
operating polling booths and winning elections. Engaging young
students in such activities will initiate them to politics from the
wrong end. Students eager to make a carrer in politics, should
understand it's main purpose; that is governance with an overall view
of betterment of the society. This is possible only if they work at
grassroots levels and understand social, and economic issues.

All depends on their (Students) interests. I was a student I never
went on Polling Booths, though my many friends used to go & works for
the parties. It is good for those students who have interest in
politics ans bad for those students who participates on pressure or
for showbazi only.


Why should students spoil there career? So it is not fair to be
operated on polling booths.


I don't think student should allow to participate in Politics since
condition of politics in India is very bad. Condition of politics is
such that many good politician don't want to involve there kids in
politics.


The very sound of "involving students in politics" doesn't sound
healthy. It doesn't mean they should not get involved in politics.
But as someone pointed out, it should be evolved and not by this
hideous means of just campaigning or operating booths. They hardly
learn anything out of this.


No, never.Sudents job is to learn not for politics. Their careers
will be lost if they get into politics


It's not a good idea for students to get involved in politics, seeing
the political situation in Bangladesh. They just learn the tactics of
corruption and their ethics gets corrupted. Instead students should
focus on leadership development and management capability by other
+ve ways and channels. For example. Lead Bangladesh Campaign develops
and promotes a new kind of leadership. Bangladeshi music programs,
creates a new paradigm for youth to act as constructive forces for
Bangladesh. To breed +ve leaders for Bangladesh, it should come from
a +ve platform and strong ethical background.


Students should not fall prey to the hopelessly pathetic ways of
Indian politicians. I dont think the day is too far away when we have
a parallel students' govt in India to counter politicians meddling
with students' lives and careers.

Students should not fall prey to the hopelessly pathetic ways of
Indian politicians. I dont think the day is too far away when we have
a parallel students' govt in Bangladesh to counter politicians
meddling with students' lives and careers.


Students should not be campaigning and operating polling booth as in
this way they use their time elsewhere instead of studying.

Due to the same we can see the exams have been postponed in some of
the versities.

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Re: [chottala.com] Think of Tube Well while you raising fund for SIDR as water is more important than food

Dear Reza bhai:
 
Salaam. I didn't hear anything from you or may be i missed your mail. Pls advise, if you are still doing the Tube Well project.
I'm still seeing lot of political mails in our beloved chottala forum when millions of lives are danger in southern part of our country. I don't know what else we need to face to START acting and STOP fighting to build a prosperous BD. I urge all our forum member once again.. pls erase the HATRED word from your heart and replace it with LOVE and FORGIVENESS.
 
Hi All:
 
Salaam/Aadab. Pls pray for my dad as he had his second heart attack with in a year and still not fully recovered yet. Currently he is in the United Hospital in Dhaka and we are hopeful to bring him to the US as soon as doctor advises us to do so.  I would highly appreciate your prayers.
 
Fi Amanillah.
Helal 
 
 
 

Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com> wrote:
Reza bhai:
 
Salaam. I already contributed a little through out the other channels for our Cyclone victims. However, as a Chottala member, i would also like to join hands with you. Pls let me know what the best way to reach you.
 
Thanks a million for all your effort and support towards our people.
 
Fi Amanillah.
Helal 

Reza Karim <rezamoni@yahoo.com> wrote:
we start to set up 5 tubes in costal area for safe drinking water, any one interested for more tubes can contact with me.
 
Reza

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Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:13:00 AM
Subject: [chottala.com] Think of Tube Well while you raising fund for SIDR as water is more important than food

Dear Bangladeshi,
 
In this crisis moment of Bangladeshi we all are trying  our level best to help the victims of sidr.
 
 we will  donate money, dry food, cloths etc.
 
But another important thing we should consider  is water. In many areas there is no safe water supply. 
 
 And  water supply can not  be met from outside. So  setting tube well for safe water supply should  be in priority list.
 
 
 Because  water is even more important  than food.  People need safe water  supply every day . they can even survive  if get food every two days.
 
 
 But if become sick, get diarrhea, then safe water is needed even  to treat it. So water supply should be  in the top of priority list.
 
 I hope million of dollars will come from expatriate Bangladeshi, particularly from USA.
 
 
 Many single organization will  raise fund of  more than 100,000 dollars.  With these 100,000 dollars ,  at least 1000 tube wells can be set. And this can change the situation  dramatically .
 
 At least one organization should  specify their donation  for tube well.
 
 And Bangladesh army  is the best  organization to set these tub wells.
 
 
 So think of tube well setting when you are raising fund for  SIDR victim and make  necessary  arrangement for its immediate set up.
 
 if one tube well  can be set up in every word, then it will  save the whole  village  in this crisis moment. tube wells can be set up close to the mosque, temple or school etc.
 
 
 
A Microbilogist
 


Is this CTG is better than Ershad  in case of political party reform and anti corruption drive ?
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[chottala.com] Jurists see poor evidence, question govt neutrality in RU Teachers' Conviction

RU Teachers' Conviction

The verdict sentencing four Rajshahi University (RU) teachers to two years' imprisonment was based on "poor" evidence and has raised questions about the caretaker government's neutrality in enforcing Emergency Power Rules (EPR) 2007, eminent jurists have observed.

Talking to The Daily Star, they said a good number of incidents have taken place so far violating the EPR, but the government has targeted university teachers only for prosecution.

"The judgment suffers from a lack of strict scrutiny of the oral evidence inasmuch as the conviction seems to be based on oral evidence of a single witness," Justice Ghulam Rabbani, former judge of Supreme Court Appellate Division, said.

"The learned magistrate ought to have noticed that the prosecution failed to produce any corroborative evidence and therefore he should not have relied on the un-corroborative evidence. This is the rule of ordinary evidence," he said.

He said if the convicted teachers appeal with the higher court, the judgment will not sustain.

Questioning the government's impartiality in enforcing the EPR, Dr Shahdeen Malik said, "The prohibition on meetings, processions etc has clearly been enforced very selectively. We know of a good number of similar incidents that violate rule 3 of the EPR. Unfortunately, it seems that prominent and liberal teachers of the public universities have been targeted for prosecution and now punishment.

"This clearly does not indicate even-handed, impartial or neutral enforcement of rules, but targeted persecution. It is clear to me that most people will not blame the teachers for any wrongdoing but find faults with the government for intentional punishment of a select few," Malik added.

He said, "I hope that people in the authority will assume that by prosecuting university teachers they would not be able to silence the language of protest against injustice."

Advocate Sultana Kamal, former adviser to the caretaker government, said she has been deeply saddened by the news of conviction of the RU teachers. "It seems to me that they have been punished heavily for a lighter crime," she told The Daily Star.

The jurists referred to some incidents of violation of the EPR: thousands of protesters brought out processions on the Dhaka University campus and in different parts of the capital on August 20 and the following days; thousands of Awami League (AL) workers took to the streets and chanted slogans welcoming party chief Sheikh Hasina's return from abroad last May; Progressive Democratic Party President Ferdous Ahmed Qureshi and his men brought out a motorcade procession in Manikganj during distribution of relief to flood victims; and a few people brought out a procession welcoming the arrest of the AL chief last July.

A renowned jurist pointed out that religious outfit Hizbut Tahrir has also frequently brought out processions in the capital since September, denouncing a cartoon published in a national daily.

But none of them has been prosecuted, the jurists alleged.

On Tuesday, a speedy trial court sentenced the four RU teachers to two years' rigorous imprisonment for participating in a silent procession on August 21 protesting the previous day's police attack on DU students.

"Questions have arisen in the mind of people whether the government is enforcing the emergency power rules selectively," Sultana Kamal, also a human rights activist, said.

Bangladesh Bar Council Vice-Chairman Khandaker Mahbub Hossain, however, said many incidents take place violating the laws but not all the lawbreakers are punished.

"The judgment has sent the message to all that none is above the law. It has also sent a message to all teachers and students for abiding by the law," Mahbub, who was made vice chairman to the bar council by the caretaker government, said.

On the allegation of punishing the teachers on the basis of poor evidence, he said if the convicted teachers think they have been punished in an unjust way, they will of course get justice from the higher court upon appealing against the judgment.

Justice Rabbani said, "I am confident the judgment will not sustain [in higher court if appeal is made against the verdict], but considering the long time needed to dispose of the appeal, I will hope the president will exercise his constitutional prerogative of pardon."

Justice Naimuddin Ahmed said both the government and the president can remit the punishment. "Since the convicts are teachers, I appeal to the president to remit the punishment," Naimuddin said.
 
 
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RE: [chottala.com] Re: [Dahuk]: The plight of Kashmir's 'half widows'

come on lets talk about the massacre happened when B'desh fighted with west
pakistan.......i still remember ...my bangldeshi frind said,...he is a "war
child" of 1971.....who did that? is that indians or pakistani? ......
I don't belong to B'desh...but that is my second home....
why shud u all think about kashimere ..when u urself having kasmire in ur
country...pls respond.....i have seen political situation in the south
asia...i found bangldesh is the worst one...if u consider the present
scenario...why ...the deep sea port to USA? ..why the goverment hasn't
prepared for the recent cyclone and is asking fro 1 biillon help from other
countries..lets make our home safe first and then talk about others...my
wife is bangldeshi...thast why i told u all this...
chao.....rahul

>From: "Md. Aminul Islam" <aminul_islam_raj@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
>To: khabor@yahoogroups.com, notunbangladesh@yahoogroups.com,
>vinnomot@yahoogroups.com, dahuk dahuk <dahuk@yahoogroups.com>,
>sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [chottala.com] Re: [Dahuk]: The plight of Kashmir's 'half widows'
>Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:26:16 -0800 (PST)
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>we pray to Allah for the end of oppression in Kashmir by the Indians.
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>mokarram hossain <mokarram76@yahoo.com> wrote: source:
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7097737.stm
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> The plight of Kashmir's 'half widows'
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> By Altaf Hussain
>BBC News, Srinagar
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> The half widows hold protest rallies every month
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> "Every day I wake up in the morning, I think he might be at the door. In
>the evening while I lay the table for dinner, my eyes are fixed at the door
>in the hope that he may just come in," says Zainab, whose husband went
>missing 10 years ago. Zainab's husband was allegedly arrested by soldiers
>fighting separatist militants in Indian-administered Kashmir in a conflict
>notorious for its human rights abuses. There has been no information
>about him since then. Zainab is someone that people in Kashmir refer to
>as a "half widow". A prominent human rights organisation, the Coalition
>of Civil Society, says there are between 1,500 and 2000 half widows in the
>state. Most have given up hope that their men will ever return. Yet
>hardly any are ready to marry again. 'Worse than a widow' Shabnam was
>married to a lorry driver, Abdul Rashid, for 12 years when he disappeared
>in 1997. Shabnam has spent 'a fortune' trying to find her
>husband
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> "My parents insisted that I should re-marry. But I thought of my
>children. I am both mother and father to them. I cannot desert them," she
>says. Shabnam breaks down while talking about her husband. "I miss
>Rashid so often and miss him so badly. My heart bleeds for him. He was such
>a good man. I cannot find another Rashid," she says. "Had it not been for
>my children, I couldn't have lived." Rafiqa, whose husband disappeared 13
>years ago, says a half widow is worse than a widow. "If I knew for sure
>that my husband was dead, I would give up on him. But, we have been kept in
>the dark. We think he might still be alive. The uncertainty is so agonising
>- for me, for the children, for everyone." The half widows are worse off
>for one more reason. They have to spend a "fortune" to search for their
>missing husbands. Duped "We visited every detention centre across the
>state. We had to spend a huge sum of money. We sold our house and several
>household articles. But
> all in vain," says Shabnam. Many such women have been defrauded of
>their money by rogues. "Many people came to me saying they had seen my
>husband. I paid them a lot of money to buy his freedom. I could have set
>aside the money for my children. First I lost my husband and then my money
>too," says Rafiqa. Some half widows have been supported by their parents,
>in-laws or other close relatives. Thousands of civilians
>have disappeared in Kashmir since 1991
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> But in most cases the relatives themselves are too poor to do much for
>them. Safia, who lives in Rajbagh in Srinagar, says, "My only brother is
>a meagrely paid salesman. What can he do for me? Both my parents are ill.
>Everyone from my husband's family has been caring, but they have their own
>families to look after." Safia had to give up her teaching job for health
>reasons. She has now set up a stationery shop to make a living. The
>president of the Coalition of Civil Society, Pervez Imroz, says 85% of the
>half widows are poor as most of the disappeared men were from the weaker
>sections of society. Traumatised "It is the backward communities that
>are most vulnerable to human rights violations because they are voiceless,
>powerless," he says. Mr Imroz says a recent survey by his group in
>Baramullah district indicates that more than 60% of the disappeared persons
>were civilians; only the remaining were militants or those connected to
>them. Mr Imroz says the half
> widows and their children also suffer from post traumatic distress
>syndrome (PTDS). "They need counselling but none is available to them,"
>he says. Many of the half widows have been campaigning under the banner
>of the APDP (Association of the Parents of Disappeared Persons). They
>hold protest rallies and demonstrations at least once every month. They
>have also filed petitions in the state high court which, given the slow
>pace of the Indian judiciary, makes justice a distant dream. They have
>been demanding that the government declare their missing husbands dead if
>they are not alive. Theoretically, the government has to pay 100,000
>rupees ($2,500) and provide job to one family member as compensation to the
>kin of any civilian killed by militants or the security forces. But the
>family of a missing person has to wait for five years before they can apply
>for such benefits. The APDP says less than 400 half widows have received
>the relief. The authorities put the
> number of missing people at 3,931 but APDP says 8,000 to 10,000 people,
>mostly civilian, have disappeared since the outbreak of the armed conflict
>in Kashmir 19 years ago.
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RE: [chottala.com] Re: [Dahuk]: RAW analyst described 1971 as ‘Civil War’ in 2003


I believe Engr Anu is perpetually, stoned not on regular drugs but by his infectious cult like belief in BAL ( Bangladesh Awami League) doctrines. His posting dictates whole country belongs to AL and if you are not with them then you are against them which equates to "against Bangladesh". What a fascist idea!!!!.

 

I have asked him few reasonable questions which he failed to response but kept on with his political jargon.

 

I am not political savvy like him but references he is giving citing few names prompted me to say something about them. All the names he mentioned are established AL intellects –

ex VC Prof Abdul Matin – 1st politically appointed VC of Dhaka University by Banghabondhu, all along Awami Think Tanker. Got his son married to daughter of fugitive AL leader Akthrazuzaman Babu.

Abdul Gaffer Chowdhury – Migrant journalist, doesn't have and 1st hand views / news what is happening in Bangladesh for last 32 years.

Muntasir Mamun – Proven AL intellect – what neutral views can he prescribe?

 

I would like to comment on few of his statements:

 

Bangabandhu also did not make any compromise to the greater & long term interest of Bangalee & Bangladesh to any country (including India, USA, Pakistan, KSA etc) any interest of Bangladesh until his death.   ---

MY COMMENT -WHO MADE 25 YEARS TREATY WITH INDIA?

 

But Zia (so called guardian of Islam in BD) put down the big and all the bill boards with holy statement of the Qur'an & Hadith in the city of Dhaka before the visit of Indian Prime Minister.

MY COMMENT - WHO REMOVED THE PHRASE "IRQA BISME RABBIKA" FROM THE DHAKA UNIVERSITY LOGO?

WHO CHANGED KAZI NAZRUL ISLAM COLLEGE'S NAME TO KAZI NAZRUL REMOVING ISLAM?

LATE INDIRA GANDHI AND OTHER HANDFUL HONEST POLITICAL LEADERS???—WHEN DID INDIA JOINED IN OUR LIBERATION OF WAR OFFICIALLY? AND FOR WHAT PURPOSE?

 

Jamaat - Shibir - Razakar - Al-Badar - Paki - Muslim League (BNP is cocktail of these).will continue to be hated, criticized, damned as it was done in past and will be treated same at now and also be treated same in future, for hundreds and hundreds of years to come!

Bangalee & Bangladesh will fight the same fight they fought in 1971 to get rid of these Jamat-BNP-Razakar-Muslim League-Paki supporter and their cronies.

 

MY COMMENT – THIS IS THE MOST DEROGATORY REMARKS HE HAS MADE ON ALMOST 35 – 40% OF BANGLADESH CITIZEN WHO ARE NOT AL SUPPORTERS BUT SUPPORTED BNP DURING LAST 3 ELECTIONS. THIS STATEMENT IS INCITING IN NATURE AND SHOWS THE TRUE COLOUR OF HIM WHICH I SAID EARLIER (BAL STILL BELIEVE BANGLADESH IS THEIR PROPERTY).

WHO GAVE MR ANU THE MORAL AUTHORITY TO COMMENT ON CITIZEN OF BANGLADESH? HE HIMSELF LIVING A MIGRANT LIFE IN A SAFE HAVEN POISONING YOUNG BRAINS WITH HIS HATRED FILLED INCITING REMARKS

HIS CONTINUOUS EFFORT TO HIGHLIGHT THE WORD BANGALEE SHOWS HE AND HIS PARTY DISOWNING OTHER CITIZENS OF BANGLADESH WHO ARE NOT BANGALEE, MAYBE HE AND LIKE MINDED PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON SOME HIDDEN AGENDA SUCH AS UNIFIED BANGLA ( DON'T KNOW WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM IT – JUST REMEMBER THE SIKKIM STATUS AND RECENT WARNING BY MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT TO INDIA NOT TO MEDDLE WITH MALAYSIAN INTERNAL AFFAIRS IN REGARDS TO TREATMENT OF ETHNIC INDIANS OF MALAYSIA) OR MAYBE INCITING OTHER INDIGENOUS CITIZEN OF THE COUNTRY TO SEPARATE????



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From: srbanunz@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:19:30 +1300
Subject: [chottala.com] Re: [Dahuk]: RAW analyst described 1971 as 'Civil War' in 2003


It is nothing new. It happened in past too, even during 1971 and after 1972 too!

 

One Paki Jamat Dalal (MBI Munshi) holds & backs - another Indian 'Jamat', 'Dalal'.

 

Many Indiana Bureaucrats, political & social leaders, businessmen, lobby group opposed our liberation war during liberation war and many act against interest of Bangladesh after 1972 till today.

 

But due to strong positive role of late Indira Gandhi & other handful & few Indian honest leaders (friendly & well wishers of Bangladesh) and also due to patriotic & unyielding political leaders of Bangladesh leadership - those vast anti Bangladesh Indian leaders Bureaucrats, businessmen, lobby group were not successful all the time.

 

For detail, read many (not one or two) practical articles published in books, news paper on real facts, incidents described, witnessed by late M R A Mukul, Abdul Gaffar Choudhury, late SASM Kibria, Moinul Islam, Dr. Muntasir Mamun, Dr. Momen & others.

 

Patriotic & unyielding political leaders of Bangladesh (like Bangabandhu, Sayed Nazrul, Tajuddin Ahmed, Sheikh Hasina & few others but not like Zia - Ershad-Khaleda.

 

Sayed Nazrul-Tajuddin Ahmed govt did not yielded to any unjust demand, plan of India during 1971.

 

Bangabandhu also did not make any compromise to the greater & long term interest of Bangalee & Bangladesh to any country (including India, USA, Pakistan, KSA etc) any interest of Bangladesh until his death.

 

Same was practised by Sheikh Hasina (Farakkah water treaty, Ctg HT peace treaty, Natural gas export to India etc)

 

But Zia (so called guardian of Islam in BD) put down the big and all the bill boards with holy statement of the Qur'an & Hadith in the city of Dhaka before the visit of Indian Prime Minister.

 

Similarly Khaleda Zia forgets to discuss the Farakkah issue (a burning issue) with her Indian Counter part during her state visit to India.

 

Ershad-Zia-Khaleda never raised our demands on our legal & owing share outstanding to Pakistan during any meeting with Pakistani counter part.

 

I can also cite many such incidents, facts & example (from the writings of late M R A Mukul, Abdul Gaffar Choudhury, late SASM Kibria, Moinul Islam, Dr. Muntasir Mamun, Dr. Momen & others)

 

That is why, I told one Paki Jamat Dalal (MBI Munshi) holds & backs - another Indian 'Jamat', 'Dalal'   to divert our attention to wrong matters and from burning issue of the present time - trial & punishment of war criminal of 1971.
 
 
"Sustha thakon, nirapade thakon ebong valo thakon"

Shuvechhante,

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On 12/1/07, MBI Munshi <MBIMunshi@gmail.com> wrote:
In relation to the controversy surrounding the 1971 events being
described as a 'civil war' a similar assessment had been made by
senior RAW analyst Dr. Subhash Kapila back in 2003 which did not
arouse any hostility in Bangladesh at the time. Could someone please
explain why the recent mention of the words 'civil war' in relation to
1971 aroused such animosity and anger most recently?

Is this a case of double standards being applied by some hired
intellectuals to simply foment trouble around the war criminals issue.

The following is the relevant quotation from the article by Dr.
Subhash Kapila titled 'BANGLADESH-CHINA DEFENCE CO-OPERATION
AGREEMENT'S STRATEGIC IMPLICATIONS: An Analysis  and published on SAAG
on January 14, 2003 –

"The civil war in Pakistan that commenced in March 1971 ended in
December 1971 and Bangladesh emerged as an independent nation state
thereafter."

The criticisms that appeared in the Bangladesh media recently on the
issue suggested that anyone claiming 1971 as a civil war does not
accept it as a liberation war and is against the ideals of the nation.
According to this analysis it would appear our Indian benefactors did
not view 1971 as a war of liberation either but as a civil war and so
this must logically raise the question of how they perceive Bangladesh
today – as a sovereign nation or a vassal state although superficially
independent?

I am sure that the 'patriotic citizens' who raised a 'hue and cry'
over the civil war remarks in Bangladesh will denounce Indian analyst
Dr. Subhash Kapila for making exactly the same statement and demand an
apology.

In my view I think that the issue had been blown out of all proportion
in Bangladesh merely to create a controversy that would inevitably
favour a political party. Some of the activities and statements of the
Chief Election Commissioner and Chief Advisor seems also to point in
this direction.

Should we be concerned that the purposes behind which the emergency
was called in January 11, 2007 is being hijacked by a particular
quarter and that now political events in Bangladesh are part of a
larger conspiracy hatched from overseas as suggested by Amar Desh
recently?  I think we must be vigilant about the course the nation is
taking in the next few weeks and months and not create unnecessary
controversies that will divide us.


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[chottala.com] Re: [Dahuk]: The plight of Kashmir's 'half widows'

we pray to Allah for the end of oppression in Kashmir by the Indians.

mokarram hossain <mokarram76@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
The plight of Kashmir's 'half widows'
By Altaf Hussain
BBC News, Srinagar

A rally by half widows in Indian Kashmir
The half widows hold protest rallies every month
"Every day I wake up in the morning, I think he might be at the door. In the evening while I lay the table for dinner, my eyes are fixed at the door in the hope that he may just come in," says Zainab, whose husband went missing 10 years ago.
Zainab's husband was allegedly arrested by soldiers fighting separatist militants in Indian-administered Kashmir in a conflict notorious for its human rights abuses.
There has been no information about him since then.
Zainab is someone that people in Kashmir refer to as a "half widow".
A prominent human rights organisation, the Coalition of Civil Society, says there are between 1,500 and 2000 half widows in the state.
Most have given up hope that their men will ever return.
Yet hardly any are ready to marry again.
'Worse than a widow'
Shabnam was married to a lorry driver, Abdul Rashid, for 12 years when he disappeared in 1997.
Shabnam, whose husband disappeared in 1997
Shabnam has spent 'a fortune' trying to find her husband
"My parents insisted that I should re-marry. But I thought of my children. I am both mother and father to them. I cannot desert them," she says.
Shabnam breaks down while talking about her husband.
"I miss Rashid so often and miss him so badly. My heart bleeds for him. He was such a good man. I cannot find another Rashid," she says.
"Had it not been for my children, I couldn't have lived."
Rafiqa, whose husband disappeared 13 years ago, says a half widow is worse than a widow.
"If I knew for sure that my husband was dead, I would give up on him. But, we have been kept in the dark. We think he might still be alive. The uncertainty is so agonising - for me, for the children, for everyone."
The half widows are worse off for one more reason.
They have to spend a "fortune" to search for their missing husbands.
Duped
"We visited every detention centre across the state. We had to spend a huge sum of money. We sold our house and several household articles. But all in vain," says Shabnam.
Many such women have been defrauded of their money by rogues.
"Many people came to me saying they had seen my husband. I paid them a lot of money to buy his freedom. I could have set aside the money for my children. First I lost my husband and then my money too," says Rafiqa.
Some half widows have been supported by their parents, in-laws or other close relatives.
A soldier keeps vigil in Kashmir
Thousands of civilians have disappeared in Kashmir since 1991
But in most cases the relatives themselves are too poor to do much for them.
Safia, who lives in Rajbagh in Srinagar, says, "My only brother is a meagrely paid salesman. What can he do for me? Both my parents are ill. Everyone from my husband's family has been caring, but they have their own families to look after."
Safia had to give up her teaching job for health reasons. She has now set up a stationery shop to make a living.
The president of the Coalition of Civil Society, Pervez Imroz, says 85% of the half widows are poor as most of the disappeared men were from the weaker sections of society.
Traumatised
"It is the backward communities that are most vulnerable to human rights violations because they are voiceless, powerless," he says.
Mr Imroz says a recent survey by his group in Baramullah district indicates that more than 60% of the disappeared persons were civilians; only the remaining were militants or those connected to them.
Mr Imroz says the half widows and their children also suffer from post traumatic distress syndrome (PTDS).
"They need counselling but none is available to them," he says.
Many of the half widows have been campaigning under the banner of the APDP (Association of the Parents of Disappeared Persons).
They hold protest rallies and demonstrations at least once every month. They have also filed petitions in the state high court which, given the slow pace of the Indian judiciary, makes justice a distant dream.
They have been demanding that the government declare their missing husbands dead if they are not alive.
Theoretically, the government has to pay 100,000 rupees ($2,500) and provide job to one family member as compensation to the kin of any civilian killed by militants or the security forces.
But the family of a missing person has to wait for five years before they can apply for such benefits.
The APDP says less than 400 half widows have received the relief.
The authorities put the number of missing people at 3,931 but APDP says 8,000 to 10,000 people, mostly civilian, have disappeared since the outbreak of the armed conflict in Kashmir 19 years ago.

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