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[FutureOfBangladesh] KAGOJE (paper) threat of NaPaki Jamat-Shibir before arrest of their top leaders - Huge wealth of Jamat-Shibir made them greedy & main reason of their political crumple [1 Attachment]

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KAGOJE (paper) threst of NaPaki Jamat-Shibir before arrest of their top leaders.

Huge wealth of Jamat-Shibir made them greedy & main reason of their political crumple

 

Initilly Jamat-Shibir was aprasire of BNP and landed in Bangladesh politicis through the hekp of general Zia.

 

Now, they underestimate BNP and took advantage of Jailed BNP leadership for corruptuion after 1-11.

 

Jamat-Shibir did not uttered any words days after days of arrest of Tarek-Koko-Khaleda Zia after 1-11.

 

For more detail please read the PDF file of logical and rational article by Mr. Golam Murtuza in the weekly "Shaptahik"

 

Arrest of 1971 WCs Jamat-Shibir & their huge wealth-bad politics-paper threat-BNP dependence -

http://www.shaptahik.com/v2/?DetailsId=3994

 


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Re: [chottala.com] Jamaat Leaders to be Kept in Custody, Where is Tofael?



Mr. Enayet Ullah
 
Your vocabulary & foul mouthing like "shoytan sayeed aslam" "Sly Aslam "
etc. only proves  what kind darvish you are !!!! 
 
You are throwing slurs only because you find that your views are different from
that of mine and that I have very meticulously  exposed Al-Bodor death squads
and it's Jamaati organizers in the killing fields  of  Bangladesh in 1971......
 
Your modus operandi is very typical of people who have been brain-washed by
religion-traders ... [in India it is Hindutva, RSS etc,  in Bangladesh, and  Pakistan
Jamaati other so-called parties masquarading as Islam-passands ... Hundutva and
Jamaat are the other sides of the same shit ]
 
I have no personal knowledge about  BAKSAL & RakhiBahini episodes that your
propaganda tactics are based on. I have not seen any reliable document
that can be referenced in any unbised discussion ....
 
In any case, after 1975 there has been quite a few staunchly die-hard  anti-BAL
regimes .... if there was an iota of truth in the propaganda materials that
you are spreading, those regimes would have:
 
(1) initiate legal proceeding against the violators of laws of the land
(2) At the least they would have published a white papers on those deviations
 
You are right "No one is immune from the rule of law" ....
 
In that case, why Khaleda-Nizami Chokro didn't initiate proceeding
against BAL for violation of laws during Mujib Amol ?
[as you try to emphasize).
 
The answer is the so-called violations are mean & slanderous
propaganda to hide Jamaat's criminal past....
 
Yes,  "this is not over yet!" as you say.... but bear in mind
life will never be the same for GholamAzamNizami-Mujahid gong..
 
You guys can't fool all Bangladeshis for all times .........
The Jamaat-BNP will have the same fate as that Muslim League of
olden days ......
 
Syed Aslam
 PS: Holy Alliance????/
[File Photo]
 
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Enayet Ullah enayet_2000@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 

This is indeed great news for shoytan sayeed aslam. If any of the defendants committed any autrocities or war crimes or treasons, let justice prevail.
 
On the same token, Seikh Mujib formed BAKSAL in the perliament in 15 minutes ruling and ousted then president of the country, Muhammad Ullah. Seikh Mujib proclaimed presidency in the mockery of the perliament in just 15 minutes and changed the constitution.
 
BAKSAL & RakhiBahini committed many killings, 40,000 political activists were killed without any trial or tribunal. Those who were part of the machine of killings committed crime against humanity. No one is immune from the rule of law. Many Awami Presidium member were part of the BAKSAL killing machine including Tofael Ahmed, Sajeda Chowdhury, Motiya, Seikh Selim, they should all stand trial and face justice.
 
The famine of 1974 also caused many lives, millions people died and displaced from their land. Those who involved in corruption and looting of state treasury, those who were accomplice of widespread looting, including Mujib's sons & daughters should stand trial.
 
What Awami League and BAKSAL did they ought to face justice in the land of Bangladesh.
Sly Aslam, you should know, this is not over yet!

 

 --- On Wed, 8/4/10, Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
Subject: KHABOR Jamaat Leaders to be Kept in Custody
To: "Khobor" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, "notun Bangladesh" <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>, chottala@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 12:54 AM
 
 
Jamaat Leaders to be Kept in Custody      
Tuesday, 03 August 2010

In its second ruling on Monday, the International Crimes Tribunal ordered four top leaders of the fundamentalist Jamaat-e-Islami to be held in custody until further orders. UPDATES

Jamaat chief Matiur Rahman Nizami, secretary general Ali Ahsan Mohammad Mojaheed, assistant secretary general Muhammad Kamaruzzaman and Abdul Quader Molla were sent back to Dhaka Central Jail after a brief hearing that lasted barely 15 minutes.

The hearing ended at around 10:45am on Monday with the judges sending the quartet off to jail after taking their attendance.

The tribunal also asked authorities to keep them arrested and adjourned the hearing without specifying a date for the next hearing.

The four have been charged with crimes against humanity during nation's war of independence in 1971.

The hearing started minutes after the quartet was produced before the court in the hearing chamber around 10:30am.

Around 9:55am, the Jamaat leaders were brought in from the jail under tight security in a police van. which was surrounded on all sides by six pick-up vans.

Tough security measures were taken in and around the court premises as well.

Additionally RAB and police forces, plainclothesmen were also on duty. Close circuit cameras and archways were set up all through the court premises.

The men were taken to the court's custody chamber at 9:58am.

Justices ATM Fazle Kabir, Md Nizamul Huq and AKM Zahir Ahmed were already present at the court.

Earlier, Dhaka Central Jail authorities said that the suspects will be produced before the court at 10am on Monday.

This tribunal, on July 26 ordered the quartet to be produced before it on Monday (Aug 2) after hearing a petition pleading to show the Jamaat leaders arrested in a case that charged them with crimes against humanity during the war in 1971.

Tough security measures were taken in and around the court premises. Beside RAB and police forces, plainclothesmen were also on duty.

In his ruling on Monday, the tribunal chairman said that the suspected men had been brought before the tribunal following his previous orders. "The suspected persons are now present in the dock, "he said.

He said that he had seen the report of the investigation officer who stated that "the warrant of arrest could not be executed on the four suspected persons as they were already in prison in relation to different cases".

The tribunal chairman then ordered the "suspected persons be sent back to prison" to await further orders from the court. Prior to the order, advocates Tajul Islam and Jaynul Abedin tried to make an application to the tribunal on behalf of the four defendants.

The lawyer said that he had three applications – an application seeking the execution of the letter of authority, an application seeking certified copies of the complaint against them and other orders passed by the tribunal, and an application praying for a recall of the warrant of arrest.

The tribunal chief, however, stated that before making any application, it must be lodged with the registrar. "We have some procedures in this court," he said.

In order to make an application, the defence lawyer must first serve it on the prosecutors, then file it with the registrar who will then pass it to the tribunal to set a date for hearing.

Barrister Muhammad Nazibur Rahman, representing the defendants, told bdnews24.com that the lawyers did not yet have copies of any documents.

Tribunal registrar Mohammed Shahinur Islam explained to bdnews24.com that at the last hearing the court had ordered that the arrestees should be given a copy of the arrest warrant and the complaint made against them. "But because the warrant of arrest could not be executed as the men were in jail, this was not possible."

After the court session ended, Abedin told reporters that they had submitted power of attorneys' on behalf of the four leaders and that the court had accepted it.

After the four men had been sent back to jail, Mofidul Huq, a trustee of the Liberation War Museum, told bdnews24.com that "this was a great scene for everyone. The four prime men accused of committing crimes against humanity were seen in the dock. These men saw how justice will operate.

"For the whole nation, though this was a short session, it has great significance (and) not only for Bangladesh but the rest of the world."

More than 20 lawyers, including Golam Mohammad Chowdhury Alal, Jashim Uddin Sarker, Ferdous Akhter Wahida, and Farid Uddin Khan, were present on behalf of the Jamaat quartet.

War crime prosecutor panel chief Golam Arif Tipu and prosecution panel members, Sayed Rezaur Rahman, Sayed Haidar Ali, Ziad Al Malum, Abdur Rahman Hawlader, and Altaf Hossain were also present at the court.

Additional attorney generals MK Rahman, Murad Reza, Mamtaz Uddin Fakir and senior lawyer Yusuf Hossain Humayun were also present on behalf of the government.

A number of demonstrators from 'Amra Muktijoddhar Sontan' (We are children of freedom fighters) demonstrated at the entrance of the court when the four Jamaat leaders, charged with committing crimes against humanity during the liberation war in 1971, were being brought in.

The demonstrators were chanting angry slogans against the fundamentalist political party, demanding exemplary punishment.

Nizami, Mojaheed, Kamaruzzaman and Molla have several other cases against them including one involving the murder of freedom fighters, which was filed against them in the capital's Pallabi and Keraniganj police stations.

The long-awaited trial of war criminals started on Mar 25 when the Awami League-led government established a war crimes tribunal, prosecutors' panel and investigation agency.

Source: bdnews24.com



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[chottala.com] Fw: KHABOR War crime trial dogged by conflict of laws





--- On Thu, 8/5/10, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>
Subject: KHABOR War crime trial dogged by conflict of laws
To:
Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 7:45 PM

 

War crime trial dogged by conflict of laws

M. Shahidul Islam
 
Contrary to sweeping assertion that the government of Bangladesh lacks judicial mandate to embark upon the 1971 war crime trial, the lack of authority is not what undercuts the validation of such a trial. Rather, conflict of laws is what seems to be making the venture questionable, (and) controversial.
   
Besides, the arrest of some suspects of the crime long before the framing of the charge has created a procedural breach under the 1973 International Crime Tribunal Act (ICT) itself. And, the Law Minister's recent assertion that the US and the UK have no business to poke their noses in the trial proceedings made things further worse.
   
The Law Minister seems to be trying to make a scramble without breaking the egg. Whether one calls it war crime or crime against humanity, any trial relating to such crimes derives its authority from the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (GA Res. 260A, 1948), which recognized the principles and the judgments of the Nuremberg trail and made it an integral part of customary international law. The Convention also mandated that a competent tribunal of the state where the crimes took place could hold the trial, although most of the trials so far had taken place under an international panel tribunal to ensure neutrality and fairness.
   
Despite the concerned UN Convention having proven controversial from the outset — for its presupposition about the existence of an international government to try international crimes by an international panel — the concurrent empowerment of concerned municipal government's aimed at overcoming that drawback. And due to such crimes involving trans-national parties, the Security Council (UNSC) removed the veil of ambiguity by creating an international tribunal on February 22, 1993 to conduct trial of genocide in former Yugoslavia. A similarly constituted court tried the Rwanda war crime trial in 1994 and issued indictments.
   
   Conflict of laws
   The conflict of laws arises from the jurisdiction, mandate, applicable/conflict ing laws, etc. Besides, procedural and legal fairness remains a central concern in such trials.For instance, death penalty may be an acceptable norm under the domestic law of some nations, including ours, but it is not permissible in many other countries or in the international crime tribunal. Secondly, although confessions taken under torture and other coercive means are not recognized as admissible evidence under the domestic and international laws, we have an exception in this regard too, albeit theoretically. Finally, absence of all the parties involved in the 'chain of the crime,' especially when the trial occurs under the municipal law of a particular nation may invalidate the legality of the entire trial proceedings by challenging its authority and fairness.
   
In our instance, deprivation of right to appeal/judicial review, as was stipulated in the latest amendment to the International Crime Tribunal (ICT) Act of 1973, is blatantly contradictory to the equal rights afforded to every citizen in Article 27 of Bangladesh Constitution. This fundamental right can only be waived if the accused are not citizens of Bangladesh, which they are.
   
   Murky backdrop
   There is little doubt that the instances of war crime, genocide and other crimes against humanity were rampant and ubiquitous during Bangladesh war of liberation in 1971. Yet, our government failed to impress upon the UN to convene a special committee to legally authenticate the crimes' commission. Instead, the government of Sheikh Mujib promulgated Bangladesh Collaborators (Special Tribunals) Order on January 24, 1972 for trial of 'domestic collaborators' . The crimes having originated from the order and command of people who ceased to be part of our nation as of the Proclamation of Independence Order in April 1971, the collaboration order turned into a weapon of prosecution against selective Bengali 'subordinates' of the Pakistani armed forces who had planned and directed the crimes' perpetration.
   
This fundamental flaw was further compounded due to other legal inhibitions, compelling the Mujib regime to enact the First Amendment Act to the Constitution on 15 July 1973. The Act amended Article 47 of the Constitution by inserting an additional clause which allowed prosecution and punishment of any person accused of 'genocide, crimes against humanity or war crimes and other crimes under international law'. That too failed to remove the legal inhibitions in their totality, due to the insertion of Article 47A which rendered inapplicable for the accused certain fundamental rights guaranteed in the Constitution. That has resulted in the passing of the International Crimes (Tribunals) Act (ICT) on July 20, 1973.
   
   International agreements
   The ICT did relate such crimes as being the staples of international law, as they are supposed to be. The main obstacle proved to be the fate of some 30,000 captive Bengali soldiers (ranging from sepoy to three star generals) and non-combatants who awaited repatriation from Pakistan while Islamabad had serious concerns about the fate of some 90, 000 of its soldiers who had surrendered, pursuant to the Geneva Convention, to the Indian army on December 16 and awaited repatriation to Pakistan. Pakistan argued that it had followed armistice on December 16 under international laws of war, and, the absence of any certification by a competent UN-sponsored commission that the alleged war crimes constituted genocide had immune its forces from undergoing such a trial under the municipal law of Bangladesh.
   
   Tripartite agreement 1973
   Pakistan also managed to convince India, within weeks, to sign (on August 28, 1973) a tripartite agreement in which India signed on behalf of Bangladesh. The agreement stated in clause V1 that "Bangladesh agrees that no trials of the prisoners of war shall take place during the entire period of repatriation and that pending the settlement envisaged in clause (V11) below these prisoners of war shall remain in India."
   
Meanwhile, in order to obtain formal recognition from Pakistan and other Muslim countries — as well as in deference to the tripartite agreement of 1973 - the government of Bangladesh declared a general amnesty on November 30, 1973 for those collaborators 'not yet charged with specific allegations of war-related atrocities'. The Press Note on general amnesty categorically said, "Those who were punished for or are accused of rape, murder, attempts to murder or arson will not come under general amnesty." This resulted in the release from prison of some 26,000 detainees, out of 37,000 suspected collaborators who were apprehended and processed for trial in the aftermath of the war.
   
   Minister's arrogance
   The political changeover of 1975 having restored judicial fairness in the amended Constitution, about 11,000 suspected collaborators took recourse to appeal reviews and got released. The Collaboration Order itself was repealed on December 31, 1975 and the file closed, in order to move ahead with a renewed spirit of national reconciliation.
   
Despite that being the backdrop, our Law Minister managed to antagonize two of the friendly international partners of development – USA and UK – by stating lately that they had no business of poking noses in the war crime trial. The comment displayed a bad mix of ignorance and arrogance, and defied the very rationale of the trial due to the crimes involving resolution and 'closed transactions' reached through international agreements, armistice and repatriation- related conditionality signed after the conclusion of the 1971 war, as well as the affordability and the accessibility of the accused to a varied mix of fundamental rights outlined in the relevant International Human Rights Charters of which Bangladesh is a signatory.
   
   UN, relevant bodies
   The UN and other relevant international governments and organizations thus have a moral compulsion to ensure that the trial is procedurally and legally fair and the rights of the accused are respected to the fullest extent. That is precisely why the government requested the UN in September 2009 to dispatch a team to Dhaka to advice on the technicalities of the war criminals trial. The USA and the UK are permanent members of the UN Security Council.
   
The Law Minister's assertion also stands in stark contrast with the amendments brought to the 1973 ICT on July 9, 2009, whereupon the accepted definition of 'armed forces' now means the forces raised and maintained under the Pakistan Army Act 1952, the Air Force Act 1953 and the Navy Ordinance of 1961. That effort too aimed at ensuring the legal and the procedural fairness of the trial itself.
   
   More amendment needed
   Instead of showing arrogance, the government must reconsider to amend the 1973 ICT further due to the latest amendment having inserted a very objectionable clause that allows trial of individuals for war crimes 'even if they are not member of an 'auxiliary force' created under the Pakistan Armed Forces Act(s)' cited above.
   
This particular clause does not obey the rules with the stipulations of the 1949 Geneva Convention and many other Protocols in which the stature of a person in the hierarchy of command is viewed as being determinative of whether that person has had command responsibility, or, the blame should be attributed to the civilian masters of the military and/or other auxiliary forces under their command. Historically, every war crime trial dealt with two questions in particular: whether (1) compliance of order from superior officers serves as a defence for the accused, and, (2) how far the command responsibility traverses up the chain of command?
   
When things are so complicated, our government should strive to ensure that the conflict of laws are addressed, international agreements are complied with, and concerned international organizations and the governments are allowed to play a decisive role in ensuring the legal and procedural fairness of the trial.
 



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[chottala.com] EKTARA Productions presents dance drama "Ali baba and the forty thieves" in the MEGA show "BIOSCOPE" on Saturday Aug. 7, 2010 @ 6:00 (on time)



Dear Community Members:
 
The wait is almost over for the Mega Event that we all have been waiting for. You all are cordially invited to attend BIOSCOPE tomorrow August 7, 2010, 6pm Sharp @ T C Williams High School.  Please come with your friends and family to enjoy a Spectacular evening filled with entertainment that you'll remember for years to come.
 
"তোমার বাড়ির রঙের মেলায় দেখেছিলাম বায়স্কোপ
  বায়স্কোপের নেশা আমায় ছাড়েনা........" 
 
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bioscope/394358990870?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=140957695924047http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnduRxwggvc
 

Following the Sold out mega success of Dance Drama "Nakshi Kathar Maath" in ittadi (2004) and Geeti Alekho "Hason Raja" in ektara (2007)

EKTARA Production presents Dance Drama "Ali baba and the forty thieves" in the mega show

"BIOSCOPE"

 Playing on Saturday, 7 august 2010 at exactly 6:00 p.m. In the silver screens of the biggest auditorium in the NOVA area

T.C. Williams high school (auditorium)

3330 king street

Alexandria, va 22302

 
Thank you for all your support for the 2010 Bioscope featuring Alibaba & The Forty Thieves happening on the 7th of August, at 6:00pm (on time). Our entire team is working tirelessly so we can present one of the most remarkable shows of all times to you. Stay tuned as we post exciting news, pictures and quizzes on the Bioscope page .. 
 
We are also pleased to announce that MUKTADHARA is coming to our BIOSCOPE event with all their cd/dvd/books etc. Any one interested in pre order please contact MUKTADHARA before aug 6th friday so you can pick up at the event venue on the 7th August at 6:00pm. Please visit their site at muktadhara.com or pre order anything from muktadharainc@gmail.com.

Visit us on our facebook @ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bioscope/394358990870?v=app_2344061033
 
For more information please visit us @ www.ektara.info
 
 
BIOSCOPE press conference 1  LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yPCFlqLQpc
BIOSCOPE press conference 2  LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCpiT6kQ7n4
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BIOSCOPE press conference 4  LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0h30oQu6Ys
BIOSCOPE press conference 5  LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_VGLmRQhts
BIOSCOPE press conference 6  LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DECCqXMk2Mg
 
Thank you,
Sheikh Mawla Milon
Event Director
 

 











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FW: [chottala.com] FW: PHIRE DEKHA



Dear hasnat,
Thank you for sending this "PHIRE    DEKHA" of 1971 incidents of atrocities done by the Barbaric Pakistani soldiers (Hanader Bahini) in Bangladesh in 1971 many of those incidents still unknown to us. Whether the whole of these available  in a book form. If so please let me know where it will be available.

Really I could not control my tears when I was reading those especially tortures done to our innocent girls and women collectively in Rajarbagh Police Lane. Why those atrocities done to our Bengali People because they took parts in the democratic process of election in a lawful way, because they voted for their popular leader Sk. Mujibur Rahman. Was it their faults to cast their votes in favour of Awami League at that time? 

Those Punjabis' are not human being, being a descendents of Mongol Invaders' Khalaku Khan, Chengis Khan, Nadir Shah and Sultan Mahmud Gaznabi entered to invade India through that Punjab route producing those barbaric types of offsprings in that Punjab Area.

Again I thank you Mr. Hasnat for such informative valuable articles.

Dowllah.

  


To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
From: hasnat@merimo.net
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:36:08 +0600
Subject: [chottala.com] FW: PHIRE DEKHA

 


DEAR ALL,

SEE THE ATTACH FILE

HASNAT



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FW: [chottala.com] FW: PHIRE DEKHA [1 Attachment]

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Dear hasnat,
Thank you for sending this "PHIRE    DEKHA" of 1971 incidents of atrocities done by the Barbaric Pakistani soldiers (Hanader Bahini) in Bangladesh in 1971 many of those incidents still unknown to us. Whether the whole of these available  in a book form. If so please let me know where it will be available.

Really I could not control my tears when I was reading those especially tortures done to our innocent girls and women collectively in Rajarbagh Police Lane. Why those atrocities done to our Bengali People because they took parts in the democratic process of election in a lawful way, because they voted for their popular leader Sk. Mujibur Rahman. Was it their faults to cast their votes in favour of Awami League at that time? 

Those Punjabis' are not human being, being a descendents of Mongol Invaders' Khalaku Khan, Chengis Khan, Nadir Shah and Sultan Mahmud Gaznabi entered to invade India through that Punjab route producing those barbaric types of offsprings in that Punjab Area.

Again I thank you Mr. Hasnat for such informative valuable articles.

Dowllah.

  


To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
From: hasnat@merimo.net
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:36:08 +0600
Subject: [chottala.com] FW: PHIRE DEKHA

 


DEAR ALL,

SEE THE ATTACH FILE

HASNAT


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[chottala.com] Re: Stubborn and Closed-Minded Madam Khaleda Zia !!!!! !!!!!!



Mr. Ayubi
 
Not true for USA, UK and about 80 other countries that hold democratic elections.
Few countries use the "Two-round system", where the Presidential system exist and
the President is elected directly by the voters.
 
USA has Presidential form of Government but 50% law does not apply ....
 
In UK Parliament members are elected through "one-time voting" [quite a
few Parliament members are elected by getting less than 50 % of the vote].
and there is no second round votings.
 
The same is in Canada where the FPTP [First past the post ] system is used for
the House of Commons.
 
Most civilized country does not need a CTG  for holding their elections ...
The history of Bangladesh has shown that even a Justice does not follow the rule
of justice. In 2006, the  then CEC Justice M.A. Aziz defied HC rule and continued
to do whatever he wants. Behind the scene he had the full support of ruling BNP-Jamaat
 jote [2006]. Justice Aziz's  voter list contained about one crore fake voters which was
later cleaned ....
 
One of the interesting contitutional innovations of recent times is the Bangladeshi
Non-party caretaker government. However, in October 2006, then Bangladeshi President Iajuddin Ahmed was sworn in as the head of the CTG that was supposed to oversee
national elections in January 2007 [definitely with the full intentions of rigging the election
wih Justice M.A. Aziz at helm of Election commission]..... The rest is history ,
 
What happens to the CTG system is matter of future political developement...there
is no serious discussions on this issue is a matter of as yet.
 
In any case, the "Iajuddin-Marka CTG" is also undesirable .....
 
Syed Aslam

 
On 8/6/10, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:
What makes you so sure that BAL is not going to disband caetaker system and rig all future elections? BAL is playing with fire and leading thd country to disaster.  In most civilised democracy a cnadidate is required to get 50% plus votes to get elected. Have amde a mistake by suggesting that for Baldesh.
                               Ayubi
 


From: Syed_Aslam3 <syed.aslam3@gmail.com>
To: Khobor <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; chottala@yahoogroups.com; notun Bangladesh <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; Sonar Bangladesh <SonarBangladesh@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 6:25:00 PM

Subject: Stubborn and Closed-Minded Madam Khaleda Zia !!!!! !!!!!!

Salahuddin Ayubi
 
Good idea. You have points, but totally irrelevant in the context of current
discussion ...
 
Do you or any one raised this question, when Khaleda Zia was in power or
when one crore+ false voters were shown by CEC Aziz's electorial rolls
(which was later cleaned up by the election commission during last CTG's
time). Has BNP or Jamaate Islami raised the issue ever or even thinking
your terms ....
 
The cuuent system of elections in Bangladesh is  a defecto "agreed upon"
system ... raising any question about the past electon is effect a
special variety of "Grapes Are Sour" attitude ....
 
BTW, according to your Mao Tse  Tung the "Bourgeois democracy" is a
farce .
 
Let us no get into those kinds of debates now ....
 
 
Thanks for your patience.
 
Syed Aslam
 


 
On 8/4/10, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:
Our election process is flawed and defective. One can ge elected without securing at least half the vetes cast as is customary in many developed countries where if a candidate fals ot secure 50% plus votes then there is secound round between the top two contenders. I do not consider BAL leader to  truly represent the majority of the populaation of the country as bAL was far short of minimum 50% votes. In the forthcoming electoral reform this serious flaw has to be rectified. Otherwise there will be proliferation of the micky mouse parties that constitues the 14 party alliance minus BAL.
                                    Ayubi
 


From: Syed_Aslam3 <syed.aslam3@gmail.com>
To: notun Bangladesh <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; Khobor <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; chottala@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 5:59:44 PM
Subject: Stubborn and Closed-Minded Madam Khaleda Zia !!!!! !!!!!!

Mr. Ayubi
 
The retirement decisions and political events are on going processes ....
and are situation dependent  ....changable ... You are just slandering
for the sake of slandering ... based on inauthentic propaganda ...
[Why don't you produce some plausible references ...]
 
BTW, Hasina is not my personal Netri  ....  She is an elected PM of
Bangladesh and  has been chosen by the people of  Bangladesh through 
a democratically elected parliament....
 
At the present time Hasina Sheikh is the Leader of the country and
a sumbol of our national unity .... Considering the Socio-political
environment, she is the best available alternative at this time of the
histrory of our nation .....
This time BAL has the mandate for the Trials of the War Criminal
and Al-bodor death squad organizers (1971) ...... If BAL fails to do that
our nation will never forgive them ..... So far so good .... the history is
moving forward ....
 
You said " I for one do not mind a thief but can not tolerate a liar that
too a congenital liar ....."  The thievary and lying are pragmatic twins:
The Hawa Bhobon operatives are well exposed before the people
of Bangladesh for both [Plunderig the national assets and then lying
to protect themselves] ... 
As always, Mother of theves has spoken with High Tones ....
Chorer Mayer Gola boro ....
 
 
[Bringing the details of Hawa Bhobon, Tarek and KoKo affairs will be
little bit out of context here]
 
BTW,  who is Mr. Izhar Ahmad ? Is that your real name?
Honest answer will be highly appreciated .... [as you have
said .... you "can not tolerate a liar that too a congenital liar. ]
 
PS: Khaleda's lies about her own date of birth is a
good example of her pathological lies [Matric application form,
CabinNama and motivated "date of birth" she currently celebrates
as her are all different    many more examples later ...]
 
Syed Aslam

 
On 8/4/10, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:
Your netri is a congenital liar. She said that she will retire from politics on reaching the age of 57. She is 62 now aand still active in dirty politics.. She once said that she will not call hartan when she is in opposition but forgot it the moment she went into opposition. I for one do not mind a thief but can not tolerate a liar that too a congenital liar.
                 You are gunning at the wrong lady. You should br gunning at your netri the congenital liar.
                                               Ayubi
 


From: Syed_Aslam3 <syed.aslam3@gmail.com>
To: Khobor <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; notun Bangladesh <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; chottala@yahoogroups.com; Sonar Bangladesh <SonarBangladesh@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 1:10:00 PM
Subject: Stubborn & Closed-Minded Madam Khaleda Zia !!!!! !!!!!!

Oh Yeah !!! Madam has proved herself ! That is history ....
and noone can change that now ....
 
Syes Aslam
 

 
On 8/2/10, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:
When Gen McArthur was in his death bed  a journalist asked president truman if he regretted sacking the general. His reply was " He was being stupid and I sacke him. During the Korean war Mcarthur was critical of the president. In the following question another journalist  wanted to know, that the general was counting his last moments and such a time shoulnt he have some kind words about him Trumans  reply" This is history and I can not change it..
                  Mannan Bhuyan also went against the tide and the party and considering th circumstances the decision was possibly righ.
                                          Ayubi
 
From: Syed_Aslam3 <syed.aslam3@gmail.com>
To: Salahuddin Ayubi <
s_ayubi786@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 3:33:07 PM
Subject: Re: Stubborn & Closed-Minded Madam Zia !!!!! !!!!!!


By the same token, Sangram, NoyaDigonta and AmarDesh are BNP-Jamaati pamphlets.
I any case, Madam khaleda failed to show her Generosity on ailing Abdul Mannan
Bhuiyan ... Now, he belongs to the ages [Deceased]  ...
 
Late Mannan Bhuiyan episode has only proved the limits of her closed-mind ...
That is a open secret .....
 
In fine, let us all pay our  homage to Late Abdul Mannan Bhuian for his life long
service to our nation... May Allah the almighty forgive all his
faults and reward him with a place in Jannat for his many good acts he did
in his life,... Amen ......
 
Syed Aslam
 

 
On 8/2/10, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:
Samakal is a BAL gharane news paper, So I do not read it and I do not have to read their BAL biased reports.
                      Ayubi
 
 

From: Syed Aslam <syed.aslam3@gmail.com>
To:
notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 4:16:46 AM
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Stubborn & Closed-Minded Madam Zia !!!!! !!!!!!

Stubborn & Closed-Minded Madam Zia  !!!!! !!!!!!
 
 
 
Dear All:
 
That was based on Samakal Analysis:
 
Read it  again and anyone who does not  agree, should
reply point by point:
 
instead of resorting to argumentum ad hominem .......
 
For everyone's information .... Syed Aslam is just a "chuno puthi" !!!!
why someone, who boasts to be a big "scholar" and proving his worth as a
community college teacher is  paying so much attention to his posts ?
 
The answer is,  even a "chutki" comment from a "Chuno Puthi" hurts...
because it contens truth  and  truth hurts :
 
Many BNP-Jammat supportes have now resorted to Geebbat and slanders:
Call Aslam a  fake, a shameless person, a lier, a blind fascist.. a full time paid
Indian agent... call him anything that you can think of  in your wildest
imagination and dreams ..... 
 
But bear in mind,  these never works in Bangladesh ...
History has shown  that this age old tactics of slandering and calling others
who has a different points of view  as "a full time paid Indian agent ....."
has never worked in our land .....it didn't work during the Language Movement,
it didn't during our Liberation Struggle .... so on so forth ....."
The history of Bangladesh is marching forward in it's own ZikZak path,
in it's unique way .....
 
The yahoo group postings/ blogging are for exchange of views and infos.
Why someone has to know the address and profession of a group
member ..... Anything beyond whatever is there in the group profile
is su·per·flu·ous ...
 
BTW, I understood from one of the fellow bloggers that Jamaate
Islami has never disbanded it's Al-bodor death squads which still
remains as an underground organization .... He assured me that my
name is not on the list ....
 
But, friends, you never know.........
Jamaate Islami may decide to repeat it's  hidden program of 
anihilation of "Indian agents" at an optimum moment ...
[Once a killer, always a killer ...]
 
PS: Good ... My small comment worked ... it made few Jammat-BNP
supportes  nervous and they run amuck....
Now read my lips: the life  would never be the
same for Stubborn & Closed-Minded Madam Zia ......
Never ... Ever .....!!!!
 
In fine, I pay my homage to Late Abdul Mannan Bhuian for life long
service to our nation... May Allah the almighty forgive all his
faults and reward him with a place in Jannat for his many good acts in
life,... Amen ......
 
Syed Aslam
 
 
 On 7/31/10, abidb <abid.bahar@gmail.com> wrote:
 

WHO IS SYED ASLAM?

Re: Stubborn & Closed-Minded Madam Zia !!!!!! From: Syed Aslam

Mr. Ayubi,


Fine, "Stubborn & Closed-Minded Madam Zia !!!!!!" But who is this Syed Aslam?

I remember once I asked about his real name but he thought I was asking about his address in the Sonar Bangla. But I know one thing about this person that he has some strange Pakistani background, ( he could be a stranded Bengali!)

Syed Aslam (who claims to be a great observer of many things and people (Madam Zia etc) and the giver of his type of good advice for people to become broad-minded, please ask him who he is. Instead of observing others, I want him to observe himself inside (conscience) and outside if he is a man/woman/child/ adolescent and why he cheats people by hiding the simple thing, his name; his identity. For the lack of his real identity he could be anything, starting from a shameless person, a lier, a blind fascist.. a full time paid Indian agent...the list goes on.

He should tell us his identity so that we can varify whether he is a saint or a criminal that we are communicating with) and we can relate his position in society with the gravity of his advice. In this context, I am sure I am not asking too much. After our repeated request, when he hides his identity, I am sure there is something wrong about him; he could be a former Chatro Leaguer, a rapist, or even a dangerous criminal madam Zia put in jail. I am sure we wouldn't need advice from such a person.

In my record he used two names on the Notun Bangladesh correspondence. When we continue to request him to give his real name, not a ghost name, he didn't and I think he still doesn't get it why.

It got to be that he depends on this sort of mean spirited job for his family's survival. When we remind him this,I find him shamelessly even getting angry to defend his false pretences. but I wonder why?


--- In notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@...> wrote:

 *Mr. Ayubi ....
 You are right ..... As matter of fact our Great Madam does everything in
cool brain and in very calculative way .... for mean people the world is wide, but
the mind is closed .....and they cannot go beyond their arrogancy !!!!*
Calculation, manipulation, & opportunism may work for short term gain .....
but in the long run ...... god disposes ....
Thanks for you comment*

Syed Aslam

  
On 7/29/10, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@...> wrote:

 But Mrs Zia has not been termed as a wrong headed person by a court as
 Miss hasina has been termed.

Ayubi

 
 

From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@...>
Thu, July 29, 2010 5:23:31 AM
*Subject:* [notun_bangladesh] Stubborn & Closed-Minded Madam Zia !!!!!!

*Madam Zia proved herself to be a Stubborn & Closed-Minded person !!!!!!*
http://www.samakal.com.bd/details.php?news=13&action=main&option=single&news_id=81933&pubno=410

 
 
But she has not been termed as wrong headed by high court.


 


 


 



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