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Thursday, August 6, 2009

[chottala.com] US looks to Vietnam for Afghan tips - AP NewsBreak



AP NewsBreak: US looks to Vietnam for Afghan tips

 

BRUSSELS – Top U.S. officials have reached out to a leading Vietnam war scholar to discuss the similarities of that conflict 40 years ago with American involvement in Afghanistan, where the U.S. is seeking ways to isolate an elusive guerrilla force and win over a skeptical local population.

The overture to Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Stanley Karnow, who opposes the Afghan war, comes as the U.S. is evaluating its strategy there.

President Barack Obama has doubled the size of the U.S. force to curb a burgeoning Taliban insurgency and bolster the Afghan government. He has tasked Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the top U.S. commander, to conduct a strategic review of the fight against Taliban guerrillas and draft a detailed proposal for victory.

McChrystal and Richard Holbrooke, the U.S. special envoy to the country, telephoned Karnow on July 27 in an apparent effort to apply the lessons of Vietnam to the Afghan war, which started in 2001 when U.S.-led forces ousted the Taliban regime in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.

Among the concerns voiced by historians is the credibility of President Hamid Karzai's government, which is widely perceived as being plagued by graft and corruption. They draw a parallel between Afghanistan's presidential election on Aug. 20 and the failed effort in Vietnam to legitimize a military regime lacking broad popular support through an imposed presidential election in 1967.

"Holbrooke rang me from Kabul and passed the phone to the general," said Karnow, who authored the seminal 1983 book, "Vietnam: A History."

Holbrooke confirmed to The Associated Press that the three men discussed similarities between the two wars. "We discussed the two situations and what to do," he said during a visit last week to NATO headquarters in Brussels.

In an interview Thursday with the AP, Karnow said it was the first time he had ever been consulted by U.S. commanders to discuss the war. He did not elaborate on the specifics of the conversation.

When asked what could be drawn from the Vietnam experience, Karnow replied: "What did we learn from Vietnam? We learned that we shouldn't have been there in the first place. Obama and everybody else seem to want to be in Afghanistan, but not I."

"It now seems unthinkable that the U.S. could lose (in Afghanistan), but that's what experts ... thought in Vietnam in 1967," he said at his Maryland home. "It could be that there will be no real conclusion and that it will go on for a long time until the American public grows tired of it."

An administration official said consultation with academics and outside experts is the norm in the Obama presidency, especially around high-profile events or decisions.

That kind of broad-ranging solicitation of views also is Holbrooke's style, and his background in Vietnam makes him especially interested in that conflict and its ramifications for today, said the official, who spoke on usual condition of anonymity.

Holbrooke and Karnow have known each other since they were both in Vietnam in the early 1960s. At the time, Holbrooke was a junior U.S. diplomat and Karnow a Time-Life correspondent.

Holbrooke briefly commented on contrasts between the two conflicts, noting that the military regime in Saigon was corrupt and unpopular, while the international community seeks to build a democracy in Afghanistan.

The Vietnam war also was a much bigger conflict. Nearly 550,000 U.S. troops were deployed at the height of the war, whereas 102,000 international troops are currently in Afghanistan — of which 63,000 are American.

James McAllister, a professor of political science at Williams College in Massachusetts who has written extensively about Vietnam, said the administration could learn a lot from Vietnam.

"American policy makers clearly see parallels between the two wars," he said. "They know that the mistakes we made in Vietnam must be avoided in Afghanistan."

McAllister cited analogies between the two wars:

• In both wars, security forces had an overwhelming advantage in firepower over lightly armed but highly mobile guerrillas.

• Insurgents in both cases were able to use safe havens in neighboring countries to regroup and re-equip.

_He pointed to McChrystal's order to limit airstrikes and prevent civilian casualties, linking it to the overuse of air power in Vietnam which resulted in massive civilian deaths.

McAllister drew a parallel to another failed political strategy from Vietnam — the presidential election.

"That ('67 ballot) helped ensure that U.S. efforts would continue to be compromised by its support for a corrupt, unpopular regime in Saigon," McAllister said.

Rufus Phillips, Holbrooke's boss in Vietnam and author of the book "Why Vietnam Matters," echoed that warning.

"The rigged election in South Vietnam proved (to be) the most destructive and destabilizing factor of all," said Phillips, now in Kabul helping to monitor the upcoming election.

David Kilcullen, a counterinsurgency specialist who will soon assume a role as a senior adviser to McChrystal, compared Karzai to South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem.

"He has a reasonably clean personal reputation but he's seen as ineffective; his family are corrupt; he's alienated a very substantial portion of the population," Kilcullen said Thursday at the U.S. Institute of Peace.

"He seems paranoid and delusional and out of touch with reality," he said. "That's all the sort of things that were said about President Diem in 1963."

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AP correspondents Anne Gearan and Jennifer Loven in Washington contributed to this report.

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[chottala.com] Massive blaze leaves six dead [including Bangladeshis] in Dahran, Saudi Arabia



Massive blaze leaves six dead [including Bangladeshis], 40 missing
 
 
Massive blaze leaves six dead, 40 missing
Siraj Wahab | Arab News
 

ALKHOBAR: Six people have been confirmed dead and 40 others reported missing following a massive fire that broke out on Sunday morning in a makeshift residential camp located close to the Khurasaniyah Gas Plant, about 140 km northwest of Dahran.

It is being described as the worst fire in recent years and one reason for it being reported late in the media was the absence of any official statement.

The camp, spread over an area of 50 sq. km, belongs to the Athens-based Consolidated Contractors International Company (CCC) that has been tasked by Bechtel and Technip to construct the massive gas processing plant for Saudi Aramco. Top CCC officials refused to answer any media enquiry about Sunday's accident. There was also no word from the Civil Defense officials.

However, a number of CCC employees and supervisors spoke to Arab News about the devastation of the fire. They refused to reveal their names because they had not been authorized to speak to the media.

Their versions, however, match the ones given to Al-Yaum Arabic daily yesterday (Tuesday). The workers said the fire broke out at 8.30 Sunday morning in one of the sections of the residential camp. According to them, nearly 400 workers were in that particular area at the time of the accident.

According to one CCC technical supervisor, company records listed six employees as dead. "Of them three are Bangladeshi nationals, two Filipinos and one Indian. Among the 40 missing are Bangladeshis, Nepalese, Indians, Pakistanis and Filipinos," he said. "Going by what we have seen, we can only assume the worst," he said.

The Khurasaniyah Gas Plant is located nearly 7 km from the residential camp.

"The camp is like a small city with a population of around 30,000," said one camp resident. "A fleet of buses transport workers on a shift basis to the work site. Currently, an estimated 10,000 workers are employed at the site. At its peak, nearly 30,000 workers were working on the project. The project is nearing completion and will be handed over to Saudi Aramco by the end of this year."

The fire broke out because of a leaking cooking gas cylinder in a kitchen in that particular quarter of the camp.

"Most of those who died were sleeping at the time of the accident. They had done their night shift and were asleep when the fire engulfed their porta-cabins. Most of the other workers were at the work site. They saw the devastation that the fire wreaked only when they came back during lunch break," said the CCC supervisor.

"Some of the co-workers have reported counting nearly 15 bodies being transported to nearby ambulances," he said.

The workers were horrified by the charred remains of some of their colleagues. "Many bodies were burned beyond recognition," they said.

Civil Defense personnel battled the blaze for nearly four hours. The victims were sent to Jubail Central Hospital and Dammam Central Hospital. Nurses at the two hospitals spoke of receiving badly burned bodies.

"We don't know their nationalities. They will have to conduct DNA tests to ascertain which country they are from," one local newspaper quoted nurses as saying. According to the nurses' account, they received more than 20 bodies. However, this figure was not corroborated by local authorities.

The blaze was visible from quite a distance on the Dammam-Khafji Highway.

However, many trailer drivers who spoke to local newspapers believed the fire was one of the many oil refinery flares that dot the Eastern Province skyline.

Some of the workers told Arab News that there were no adequate safety measures in the place where the accident occurred.

"There was only one escape route in that area. Even if the workers were awake, they would have found it difficult to escape. It would have been a near stampede if all of the 400 workers had been trying to escape from that area." The company's version of events is still awaited.

 
 


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[chottala.com] Lubna Hussein: Protests erupt at '40 lashes' trial in Sudan



 
 
 
Protests erupt at '40 lashes' trial
Defiant ... Sudanese journalist Lubna Ahmed al-Hussein.

Defiant ... Sudanese journalist Lubna Ahmed al-Hussein. Photo: AFP

August 5, 2009

Sudanese riot police used tear gas against hundreds of people demonstrating outside a Khartoum courtroom on Tuesday in protest at the trial of a woman who faces 40 lashes for wearing trousers.

The judge decided to adjourn the trial to September 7 to determine whether Lubna Ahmed al-Hussein, a journalist who also works with the United Nations, has legal immunity, defence lawyer Jalal al-Sayyid said.

Hussein, who is in her 30s, has been charged with public indecency after she was arrested last month along with 12 other women who were wearing trousers at a Khartoum restaurant.

Wearing trousers earns 40 lashes

Supporters of a Sudanese woman facing 40 lashes for wearing trousers in public protest outside a Khartoum court.

Riot police wearing helmets and armed with shields and sticks used tear gas to disperse hundreds of women and activists from Sudanese opposition parties who demonstrated in support of Hussein outside the courthouse, an AFP correspondent reported.

"No to oppression against women," read one banner carried by the demonstrators. "No return (to) the dark ages," said another.

One of Hussein's lawyers, Manal Khawajali, said she was assaulted by police outside the court and would file a complaint.

Hussein has said that she wants to be tried to challenge a law that decrees a punishment of whipping for people wearing "indecent" clothes, and told a hearing last week that she wished to waive her UN immunity.

Emerging from the courtroom flashing the victory sign, Hussein again insisted she wanted to be tried and said she had resigned from her job at the UN's media office in Sudan so she no longer had immunity.

"The court should not have delayed the trial," she told journalists after the closed-door hearing.

But in an apparent disagreement within her defence team, a lawyer nevertheless argued that she had immunity and asked the judge to ignore Hussein's wishes, Sayyid said.

He said the judge decided to ask the Sudanese foreign ministry to determine the immunity issue ahead of her next court date.

Ten women have already been whipped for the same offence - including Christians - and Hussein has said she will fight a guilty verdict and the law itself.

"I'm ready for anything to happen. I'm absolutely not afraid of the verdict," she said in an interview on Monday.

"If I'm sentenced to be whipped, or to anything else, I will appeal. I will see it through to the end, to the constitutional court if necessary.

"And if the constitutional court says the law is constitutional, I'm ready to be whipped not 40 but 40,000 times," said Hussein, who also works for the left-wing Al-Sahafa newspaper.

Unlike in some other Arab countries, particularly in the Gulf, women have a prominent place in Sudanese public life. Nevertheless, human rights organisations say some of the country's laws discriminate against women.

Hussein said she wants to fight to get rid of the law, saying it "is both against the constitution and sharia (Islamic law)".

"If some people refer to the sharia to justify flagellating women because of what they wear, then let them show me which Koranic verses or hadith (sayings of the Prophet Mohammed) say so. I haven't found them," she said.

Police have also cracked down on another woman journalist, Amal Habbani, who published an article in Ajrass al-Horreya newspaper (Bells of Freedom) entitled: "Lubna, a case of subduing a woman's body."

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'Whip me if you dare' says Lubna Hussein, Sudan's defiant trouser woman

Lubna Hussein, the Sudanese woman who is daring Islamic judges to have her whipped for the "crime" of wearing trousers, has given a defiant interview to the Telegraph.

 

By Talal Osman in Khartoum and Nick Meo
Published: 7:00PM BST 01 Aug 2009

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In court on Tuesday Mrs Hussein will dare judges to have her flogged.
In court on Tuesday Mrs Hussein will dare judges to have her flogged. Photo: TALAL OSMAN
In court on Tuesday Mrs Hussein will dare judges to have her flogged.
In court on Tuesday Mrs Hussein will dare judges to have her flogged. Photo: TALAL OSMAN

As the morality police crowded around her table in a Khartoum restaurant, leering at her to see what she was wearing, Lubna Hussein had no idea she was about to become the best-known woman in Sudan.

She had arrived at the Kawkab Elsharq Hall on a Friday night to book a cousin's wedding party, and while she waited she watched an Egyptian singer and sipped a coke.

She left less than an hour later under arrest as a "trouser girl" - humiliated in front of hundreds of people, then beaten around the head in a police van before being hauled before a court to face a likely sentence of 40 lashes for the "sin" of not wearing traditional Islamic dress.

The officials who tried to humiliate her expected her to beg for mercy, as most of their victims do.

Instead she turned the tables on them – and in court on Tuesday Mrs Hussein will dare judges to have her flogged, as she makes a brave stand for women's rights in one of Africa's most conservative nations.

She has become an overnight heroine for thousands of women in Africa and the Middle East, who are flooding her inbox with supportive emails. To the men who feel threatened by her she is an enemy of public morals, to be denounced in the letters pages of newspapers and in mosques.

As she recounted her ordeal in Khartoum yesterday Mrs Hussein, a widow in her late thirties who works as a journalist and United Nations' press officer, managed cheerfully to crack jokes - despite the real prospect that in a couple of days she will be flogged with a camel-hair whip in a public courtyard where anyone who chooses may watch the spectacle.

Her interview with The Sunday Telegraph was her first with a Western newspaper.

"Flogging is a terrible thing – very painful and a humiliation for the victim," she said. "But I am not afraid of being flogged. I will not back down.

"I want to stand up for the rights of women, and now the eyes of the world are on this case I have a chance to draw attention to the plight of women in Sudan."

She could easily have escaped punishment by simply claiming immunity as a UN worker, as she is entitled to under Sudanese law. Instead, she is resigning from the UN – to the confusion of judges who last Wednesday adjourned the case because they did not know what to do with her.

"When I was in court I felt like a revolutionary standing before the judges," she said, her eyes blazing with pride. "I felt as if I was representing all the women of Sudan."

Like many other women in the capital, Mrs Hussein fell foul of Sudan's Public Order Police, hated groups of young puritans employed by the government to crack down on illegal drinkers of alcohol and women who, in their view, are insufficiently demure.

Despite their claims of moral superiority, they have a reputation for dishonesty and for demanding sexual favours from women they arrest.

Mrs Hussein was one of 14 women arrested at the Kawkab Elsharq Hall, a popular meeting place for the capital's intellectuals and journalists, who bring their families. Most of them were detained for wearing trousers. The police had difficulty seeing what Mrs Hussein was wearing under her loose, flowing Sudanese clothes. She was wearing green trousers, not the jeans that she said she sometimes wears, and wore a headscarf, as usual.

"They were very rude," she said. "A girl at a table near mine was told to stand up and told to take a few steps and then turn around, in a very humiliating way. She was let off when they 'discovered' she was not wearing trousers."

After her arrest, on the way to a police station, she tried to calm the younger girls.

"All the girls were forced to crouch on the floor of the pick-up with all the policemen sitting on the sides," she said. "They were all very terrified and crying hysterically, except me as I had been arrested before during university days by the security services.

"So I began to try to calm the girls, telling them this wasn't very serious. The response of the policeman was to snatch my mobile phone, and he hit me hard on the head with his open hand.

"On the way I felt so humiliated and downtrodden. In my mind was the thought that we were only treated like this because we were females."

Christian women visiting from the south of Sudan were among the 10 women who admitted their error and were summarily flogged with 10 lashes each. But Mrs Hussein declined to admit her guilt and insisted on her right to go before a judge.

While waiting for her first court appearance, she said she was surprised to find herself held in a single cramped detention cell with other prisoners of both sexes. "How Islamic is that?" she asked. "This should not happen under Sharia."

Mrs Hussein is a long-standing critic of Sudan's government, headed by President Omar al-Bashir, the first head of state to face an international arrest warrant for war crimes. Sudan has been accused of committing atrocities in the Darfur region.

Before her arrest she had written several articles criticising the regime, although she believes she was picked at random by the morality police.

The regime has often caused international revulsion for religious extremism. In 2007 British teacher Gillian Gibbons was briefly imprisoned for calling the classroom teddy bear Mohammed.

The government is dominated by Islamists, although only the northern part of the nation is Muslim. Young women are frequently harassed and arrested by the regime's morality police.

Mrs Hussein said: "The acts of this regime have no connection with the real Islam, which would not allow the hitting of women for the clothes they are wearing and in fact would punish anyone who slanders a woman.

"These laws were made by this current regime which uses it to humiliate the people and especially women. These tyrants are here to distort the real image of Islam."

She was released from custody after her first court appearance last week, since when she has appeared on Sudanese television and radio to argue her case - which has made headlines around the world.

She is not only in trouble with police and judges. A day after her court appearance she was threatened by a motorcyclist, who did not remove his helmet. He told her that she would end up like an Egyptian woman who was murdered in a notorious recent case.

Since then she has not slept at home, moving between the houses of relatives. She believes her mobile telephone has been listened to by the security services using scanners.

But she has pledged to keep up her fight. "I hope the situation of women improves in Sudan. Whatever happens I will continue to fight for women's rights."

source.telegraph.uk

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Sudanese journalist Lubna Ahmed al-Hussein poses in Khartoum on June 13, 2009. Al-Hussein, who writes for the left-wing Al-Sahafa newspaper and works for the media department of the United Nations Mission in Sudan, was arrested in Khartoum last week and charged with dressing indecently. She is facing 40 lashes after being accused of wearing "indecent" clothes, with 10 women already whipped for similar offences against Islamic law. Hussein told AFP she was at a restaurant on July 3 when police came in and ordered women wearing trousers to follow them to the police station. Getty Images logo Getty Images 3 weeks ago

Sudanese journalist Lubna Ahmed al-Hussein poses in Khartoum on June 13, 2009. Al-Hussein, who writes for the left-wing Al-Sahafa newspaper and works for the media department of the United Nations Mission in Sudan, was arrested in Khartoum last week and charged with dressing indecently. She is facing 40 lashes after being accused of wearing "indecent" clothes, with 10 women already whipped for similar offences against Islamic law. Hussein told AFP she was at a restaurant on July 3 when police came in and ordered women wearing trousers to follow them to the police station.

 



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