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Sunday, September 9, 2012

[chottala.com] Bangladeshis not behind Assam violence: Assam Chief Minister



Illegal Bangladeshi migrants not behind Assam violence, says Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi

Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi said Muslims are outnumbering Hindus in Assam not because of the increase in illegal migration from Bangladesh but because Muslims are illiterate and bear more children.

Speaking to Karan Thapar on Devil's Advocate, the Chief Minister took full responsibility for the communal riots and said that there were multiple reasons behind it.

Here is an excerpt from the interview:

Speaking on Devil's Advocate with Karan Thapar, the Assam Chief Minister said that his desire to be a part of the Presidential race stemmed from his desire to assert his rights as a citizen of India and as a tribal.

Below is an edited transcript of the interview:

Karan Thapar: Hello and welcome to a special Devil's Advocate from Guwahati, an interview with the Chief Minister of Assam Tarun Gogoi.

Chief Minister let's start with the recent troubles in your state. Why is Assam so prone to ethnic and communal violence? Is it the demography, is it the geography, is it politics or is it just lack of economic development?

Tarun Gogoi: Of course it is true that Assam is prone to all these clashes. I have seen 1960, 1972, 1983, all along and of course it is a complex state. And of course the reason is socio, economics, sometimes politics also; and economics may be one of the reasons.

Karan Thapar: You are suggesting that there are multiple reasons. The BJP however, says, and many of you opposition leaders in the state say, that the real reason is unrestrained illegal immigration from Bangladesh. You strongly deny that, in which case how do you account for the fact that between 1991 and 2001 the two censuses for which we have accurate data, the Muslim population of districts like Kokrajar, Dubri, Balbata, Narbari, have phenomenally increased?

Tarun Gogoi: You are absolutely right, the Muslim population has increased. But if you look at 2001 census the population growth of Assam is less than national average, almost 3 per cent. Then in 2011 also, in that provision also, growth of the population of Assam is less than national average. So, it is a clear indication that illegal migration has declined.

Karan Thapar: Well, has it because may have grown at a lower rate than the nation as a whole but within Assam the Muslim population in these districts has grown much faster then the Hindu one. Let me quote some of the figures - Kokrajhar, 19 per cent Muslim increased, 5 per cent Hindu, Dhubri, 29 per cent Muslim increased, 5 per cent Hindu, Bongaigaon, 31 per cent Muslim increased, 2 per cent Hindu. Clearly this phenomenal Muslim increase can't be for natural reasons; it is to be because of immigration.

Tarun Gogoi:You see this is because of low literacy. Most of the Muslims are illiterate. Every family has six, seven, eight, nine, 10 members. Literacy is very low, it is because of illiteracy.

Karan Thapar: You seriously are saying that Muslims because they are illiterate are creating more children than Hindus.

Tarun Gogoi: Ya.

Karan Thapar: You really mean that?

Tarun Gogoi: Yes, because of illiteracy. For example, empowerment of women is also done for birth control.

Karan Thapar: This is a very controversial answer Chief Minister. People would say this is tantamount to saying that the illiterate breed more.

Tarun Gogoi: Yes. I believe it 100 per cent. Kerala has the same; the Muslim population growth is higher. Assam is highest, second highest is West Bengal.

Karan Thapar: And in every case you are saying illiteracy is the explanation, not as I'm suggesting illegal immigration from Bangladesh?

Tarun Gogoi: No, immigration has been there. Same case in the tea garden tribes, the birth rate is higher if you compare to Assamese people.

Karan Thapar: Let me quote to you what Hagarama Mohirali, head of the border territorial council has just said, "There are over two lakh illegal Bangladeshi immigrants in Bodo districts. You question that?

Tarun Gogoi: I do question. There are no two lakh migrants, I can challenge.

Karan Thapar: What are you estimates for illegal Bangladeshi immigrants?

Tarun Gogoi: I can tell you that even till today the pending cases in the tribunal are less than three lakh. Anybody can register a case. I tell you AGB can into power as you know, total case registered about 4.5 lakh. Out of them many have been disposed off also.

Karan Thapar: So, what is the figure that you believe is the figure for the illegal Bangladeshi immigrants?

Tarun Gogoi: It is very difficult but as it is today the pending case in the tribunal but among them also all are not…

Karan Thapar: So, you are absolutely certain that Mr Mohilari's facts of the two lakh figures alone in the Bodo district is wrong?

Tarun Gogoi: No, no, he has never said it.

Karan Thapar: He said it, he said it clearly to 'The Indian Express' on August 6.

Tarun Gogoi: He might have said. I tell you, he told that in the camps there are five lakhs or something.

Karan Thapar: Let's not get caught in the figure, the figure might be disputable. The point that I am making is that you strongly and vehemently continue to dispute that illegal Muslim immigration from Bangladesh is a fundamental cause of the troubles we have just seen in Assam.

Tarun Gogoi: I don't disputed it, it's a fact.

Karan Thapar: It's a fact?

Tarun Gogoi: No, no, not the fact that..

Karan Thapar: The fact that migrant wasn't the problem?

Tarun Gogoi: Yeah.

Karan Thapar: Alright, I'll accept that but I'll point out to you one thing that there are many in India who believe that the key problem in Assam is basically illegal immigration. You are saying that is the wrong understanding of the state.

Tarun Gogoi: You see outside Assam, even inside Assam, there is a wrong perception of Assam. A perception is that Assam is not a safe place, there is a lot of insurgency.

Karan Thapar: This is another wrong perception?

Tarun Gogoi: Yes and these are another wrong perceptions.

Karan Thapar: Alright, then let's then come to what the analysts say is a second explanation for the troubles that you have in Assam. They say the very character of the Bodoland itself, an area where the Bodos because they are the single largest community have power but all the non-Bodos including the Muslims are probably greater in number and they feel unrepresented and they feel left out. And that is the fundamental cause of the bitterness that keeps erupting in violence since the creation of Bodoland.

Tarun Gogoi: Before that also there were clashes.

Karan Thapar: But the Bodoland has made it worst.

Tarun Gogoi: No, no, here earlier when there was no power they were watched. Before 1996 that time…

Karan Thapar: But I quote it to you that Bodos represent something like 20 per cent of the population of the Bodo Territorial Administrative Area, they comprise 30 out of 46 seats on the BTC, which is 65 per cent. Twenty per cent population, 65 per cent seats.

Tarun Gogoi: See, there is a case in the Sixth Schedule, there is about 35 per cent population. It is a true that Bodos are minority, Bodos are minority in the Bodoland, Bodoland Territorial Council.

Karan Thapar: As a result of which the rest of the population feels left out, they almost feel disfranchised. That is why you have this bitterness which keeps erupting periodically.

Tarun Gogoi: BTC, yes they are reservation but for the MLAs there is no reservation.

Karan Thapar: But BTC has local control. Let me quote to you what the President of the All Assam Minority Student Union Abdul Rahim Ahmed has said. He says, "Bodos engineered the recent trouble because they wants to push the Muslims out of the Bodoland, then they could push their numbers to 50 per cent and demand a separate state."

Tarun Gogoi: They have been demanding separate state but to this group they entered into an agreement, agreeing to have a Sixth Schedule.

Karan Thapar: That was in 2003, but since then it is alleged that they are trying to push Muslims out so that they can push their numbers up and demand a separate state.

Tarun Gogoi: I tell you how the incident took place, August 19, one Muslim or one Bodo fellow sustained injury, second day four Bodos were killed by the Muslims.

Karan Thapar: Quite right.

Tarun Gogoi: Then how would you say how did it triggered.

Karan Thapar: Chief Minister, by collapsing from the causes of the problem to how this specific instance happened and actually when it comes to this specific instance, people turn around and say that one of the problems was that you mishandled it. They say that you sided with the Bodos which are your allies in the government, as a result of which you were A – slow to respond and B – when you did respond, you didn't respond decisively.

Tarun Gogoi: No, these are wrong perceptions. Bodos are also accusing me that you are soft to the Muslims because you are looking for their votes. They are saying why did you not arrest those people who were responsible for killing four Bodos on the first day 19th.

Karan Thapar: Can I interrupt and tell you why people say that you were slow, because the first warning of trouble happened well before the July 19, well before July 6, they go back to May and June, when you had clashes over Eid gahas, when you had attacks on Muslims and Muslim property at that time. And your critics say that instead of heeding those warnings six to eight weeks earlier, you ignored them, you didn't take preventive steps.

Tarun Gogoi: No, such incidents do take place everywhere, not only in Bodoland, you see Karbi Anglong, North Cachar hill, other places also. Such minor incidents do take place. Then July 6, it was also not by the Bodos, it was by KLO.

Karan Thapar: But Chief Minister all these incidents happening should have been a sign to you that there was trouble beginning. Surely it was a warning to take preventive action.

Tarun Gogoi: That way there is warning every where in Assam.

Karan Thapar: And the people say the reason you didn't take preventive steps is because the Bodos are your allies, it is their support that is essential for you and therefore you said let me not take action, it will go against my government.

Tarun Gogoi: This is absolutely wrong, it is a false propaganda, I don't depend on them. I have 78 members out of 126.

Karan Thapar: But the Bodos are still part of your government.

Tarun Gogoi: Of course they are part of my government but I don't need their support. And if that was the case why did I arrest a Bodo MLA.

Karan Thapar: You may have arrested one single Bodo MLA, but look at what is happening to the 2,50,000 refugees living in camps. The vast majority of who are Muslim. Because the Bodos are creating obstruction in letting them go to their villages, they are now asked to prove if they are Indian citizens and fill up forms to show where they got their lands from. That is not only indefensible; it is a clear attempt to prevent the Muslims to go back. And once again your government is not preventing the Bodos from doing this.

Tarun Gogoi: No, we will prevent it also. We have already said those who are displaced, Indian citizens, from the Bodoland will be rehabilitated.

Karan Thapar: There is an interesting distinction you make because a moment ago when we began this interview, you said that illegal immigration from Bangladesh wasn't a problem and now you are asking people to prove their citizenship. Why because they are all Indians why should they prove it, because if there is no illegal immigration issue?

Tarun Gogoi: You see, for rehabilitation they have to give some proof, otherwise how do you rehabilitate them. He must have had a house, a paddy field…

Karan Thapar: But Chief Minister, these are people who had their villages burned, their houses destroyed, they found shelter in refugee camps. Now in their own state, they have to prove that they Indian to go back. They have to prove that they have land to go back. Why can't they just go back to the village they came from?

Tarun Gogoi: They are going, 240,000 have already have left…

Karan Thapar: But why are you creating the Bodos Territorial Council to lay down this condition before they can go back.

Tarun Gogoi: You see this is for their own safety because we want to take them into confidence.

Karan Thapar: So you are doing this for the safety of the Muslims not because you are under pressure from the Bodos.

Tarun Gogoi: No, because the land administration belongs to them.

Karan Thapar: Let me give you a final reason why people suspect that in fact you are siding with the Bodos and that is a very simple reason. The disarmament of the Bodos which was envisaged by the 2003 Bodo accord, nine years later still hasn't happened. And people can't understand because you have been Chief Minister right through that time. And once again they say the reason it has not happened is because Tarun Gogoi is soft and gentle towards the Bodos.

Tarun Gogoi: There is no question of being soft. We are having talks with them. Everybody has arms, even Assam.

Karan Thapar: So why have you not succeeded in removing these arms? Why have you not succeeded in disarming people?

Tarun Gogoi: I will tell you why… I'm not talking about Bodos, for example ULFA, KLF, so many groups have come forward to talk.

Karan Thapar: And they all have arms, so why haven't you failed to disarm people?

Tarun Gogoi: I will tell you why. Take the example of the government of India, Army is there… Counterinsurgencies they (Army) can do anything, why they have not done. It is not as easy as it appears to be. I will give you an example, lot of people don't know this, when they come for talks they don't disclose their correct picture of the arms they are having.

Karan Thapar: Which means they are hoodwinking the government.

Tarun Gogoi: To some extend. I will tell you. That was raised by Chidambaram, for one group, not for Bodos. I said suppose 80 per cent of the group surrenders and only 20 per cent remains. That means we have weakened 80 per cent.

Karan Thapar: But 20 per cent remained and that 20 per cent was used by the Bodos, in some instances, when they were butchering Muslims. Just look at the figures of the 96 people killed 70 were Muslims, of the 450,000 made homeless, a vast majority were Muslims.

Tarun Gogoi: Why Army has not been able to do it?

Karan Thapar: You have raised a fundamental question about the Army. Why is it that the Army was unable to more effectively control the situation, after all there was a four-day gap between your calling the Army and their deployment, and during that period the situation sharply deteriorated?

Tarun Gogoi: I will tell you why. I don't say Army alone, I'm also responsible. I'm head of a state definitely I'm also responsible. So there is responsibility of the Army, Assam Police, and CRPF, it is a combination of all; we call it a unified command.

Karan Thapar: So was there an absence of clear cut division in authority?

Tarun Gogoi: No, normally we have been in best of relation, that's why we have been able to survive, sustain. Our unified command structure is the best in the whole country.

Karan Thapar: But if it is the best in the whole country, then why was a four-day delay there.

Tarun Gogoi: Because of the change in the procedure.

Karan Thapar: Who changed the procedure?

Tarun Gogoi: Ministry of Home or Ministry of Defence.

Karan Thapar: So the responsibility for the delay lies with the Ministry of Defence.

Tarun Gogoi: Because of change of procedure. The change of procedure has delayed the whole process.

Karan Thapar: But as a result of a change of procedure, which is clearly a bureaucratic thing, four days were lost, and lives were lost.

Tarun Gogoi: The Defence Minister himself admitted.

Karan Thapar: Did the Defence Minister also extend an apology to the people of Assam because as a result of a four-day delay, lives were lost, homes were lost, villages were burnet.

Tarun Gogoi: That time I had less force because the situation of Assam was improving.

Karan Thapar: And so they had withdrawn forces from Assam. Was that an irresponsible thing for them to do?

Tarun Gogoi: I'm not saying that, because there was a lot of pressure for the Naxalites and other left Left wing.

Karan Thapar: So they took their eye off Assam. They became a little complacent because you had three good years, and they took eye off the state.

Tarun Gogoi: No, they were in urgent need of CRPF.

Karan Thapar: But they forgot that Assam breaks into violence periodically every three, four years.

Tarun Gogoi: I was telling them this.

Karan Thapar: You were saying this to you and yet they overrode you, they overruled you.

Tarun Gogoi: They said it is not possible for them also, not that I didn't take it up. But I don't blame them.

Karan Thapar: You may not blame them but they disregarded the advice of a Chief Minister who has a eleven-year standing.

Tarun Gogoi: No, I didn't say disregard.

Karan Thapar: They didn't listen to you.

Tarun Gogoi: No, sometimes they can't accommodate, otherwise they are nice to me. They are very cooperative… Then to rush back it takes more then seven hours to come back, unless you keep a reserve force.

Karan Thapar: So, they made two mistakes, one they became complacent because there had been no trouble for three years, and they disregarded the advice of a Chief Minister, then they wasted time coming back. And all of this was compounded by the fact that they changed procedures, so bureaucratic delay also compounded the situation.

Tarun Gogoi: You see, this is change of circumstances…

Karan Thapar: My last question to you Chief Minister, you have been Chief Minister of Assam for 11 years, for most of that time you have been Home Minister yourself, you have been head of the unified command, you boost this is the best unified command of the country. How much of the responsibility for failing to effectively tackle the trouble lies with you, after all you had the power and the experience to anticipate that trouble would happen, you had the experience to speedup rehabilitation? Neither was done.

Tarun Gogoi: Today I'm not the head of the unified command.

Karan Thapar: But how much of the responsibility for the delay you take?

Tarun Gogoi: I take 100 per cent responsibility.

Karan Thapar: So things have gone wrong, the blame is yours.

Tarun Gogoi: Yes. As a Chief Minister I take 100 per cent responsibility.

Karan Thapar: So when the critics they, Tarun Gogoi is responsible, you say yes.

Tarun Gogoi: Yes.

Karan Thapar: Alright Chief Minister, those are brave words. Let's hope they don't go against you. A pleasure talking to you.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bangladeshis-not-behind-assam-violence-gogoi/289952-37-64.html




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[chottala.com] MUSLIM EXTERMINATION POGROM IN ARAKAN DIRECTED FROM BANGLADESH! WHO IS IN CHARGE?




MUSLIM EXTERMINATION IN ARAKAN DIRECTED FROM BANGLADESH!   WHO IS IN CHARGE?
Abid Bahar

Arakan was an independent medieval Rakhine Mogh kingdom bordering Bengal, year after year of Burmese attack on Arakan produced refugees: The Chakma, Marmma, Tanchaingyas and the Rakhines of the Cox's Bazar who even arrived in Bengal during the British period as refugees. Arakan continues to produce refugees and lately there has been a Rohingya Muslim extermination policy going on for the past couple of decades. It is an organized effort to get rid of the rraces of Muslims in Arakan. This is ethnic cleansing. Due to the historic flow of refugees from Arakan to Chittagong and Chittagong Hill Tracts, Arakan has been known to Chittagonian people as the "Mogher Mulluk' -the land of anarchy. What are the forces behind this hatred?

(Burma killings shocking video: Must See and Share !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_cKhxPzVjE&feature=related)
Rohingya Massacre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2XED9cs7Z8&feature=related
Bangladesh PM says Bangladesh cannot help Rohingya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IF_wu4dxUk&feature=relmfu

A LEADING MONK IN MYANMAR PREACHING VIOLENCE SAYS: "BENGALI MUSLIM TERRORISTS ARE THE STATE'S ENEMIES."

Bangladesh located next door to Myanmar requires to understand the complexities of Arakan and Myanmar's religion-fundamentalist politics to deal with the roots of racism and to recognize the chronic refugee production trends in the region. This is particularly important because, lately there has been reports that the latest June 2012 massacre of the Rohingyas was directed from Bangladesh by an exiled Rakhine leader Saw Mra Raza Lin, a Rakhine Mogh exile in Dhaka with the direct link to the RNDP chairman Aung Maung in Sittwe. Also there was WIRATHU and his network of Rakhine monks involved in the Rohingya Muslim massacre in Arakan. Under the circumstances, we wonder who was in charge in Bangladesh when so many things were going on inside Bangladesh dealing with the recent crisis Arakan.
Link: Exiled Female Arakanese Leader Returns from Bangladeshhttp://www.narinjara.com/main/index.php/exiled-female-arakanese-leader-returns-from-bangladesh


THE BANGLADESHI BORN RNDP LEADER WHO LED THE JULY MASSACRE

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Videos:Video eksklusif serangan puak Rakhine di Myanmar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQVQg1D51bM&feature=related

ORGANIZED DEMOLITION OF MUSLIM PRESENCE IN ARAKAN

Rohingya has been entering Bangladesh to take shelter  because, they are considered "illegals" in Burma. Perhaps most Bangladeshis are not aware that in 1982 Muslims of Arakan were striped of their Burmese citizenship, now restricted of their movements from one village to the other, restricted from having children, they are widely used in forced labor, their homes were being burned down to ashes. All these conditions were to force Muslims to leave Arakan. This is known as ethnic cleansing.

Muslim presence is also deliberately ignored by Rakhine historians in their history books. This is a rare trend in anywhere of the world. One author named Aye Chan branded Rohingyas as "Influx viruses" needed to be exterminated. Despite the fact that in Arakan, Muslims have been living there from the 8th century, Rakhine Moghs brand them also as the "Chittagonians," or "foreigners."

Rakhine racist Mogs have been destroying houses, mosques and historic Sufi religious sites indiscriminately. In contrast in Bangladesh Arakanese Rakhine monks travel freely in Bangladesh and bring foreign donations to renovate, and built Golden pagodas in Bandarbon, Rangamati and Cox's Bazar. Many of these traveling political monks from Arakan still consider Chittagong as part of Arakan

It is reported that many anti Bengali Rakhine Moghs armed groups and monks that fled Burma for the past decades now comfortably live in Bangladesh. Report says: "they are now residing at ancient Arakan monasteries in Bangladesh with supports from local Buddhist people.Strangely, these monks continue to brand Rohingya Muslims as the "illegals" in Arakan. Newspaper report shows some of these Rakhine traveling Monks travel to the tribal Chittagong Hill Tracts areas carry arms to inspire tribal militancy in Bangladesh. It seems that they are up to spreading Muslim extermination in both Arakan and in Bangladesh with a goal to unite Chittagong Hill Tracts with Arakan of Burma. Are Bangladeshis aware of such a trend? If these traveling monks and their motives remain unchecked, there would be a price for silence.

The Jamal Khan lane in Chittagong is too familiar with the name of the Muslim General who unsuccessfully fought to keep Chittagong with Bengal. But due to the weakness in the center in Gaur caused by the attack of Sher Shah Suri, Chittagong was eventually captured by the Rakhine Moghs. Ever since Rakhine Mogh in alliance with the Portuguese continued to oppress Bengali Muslim population of Chittagong and of lower Bengal. Year after year they capturing them as salves, and settled them in Arakan in agricultural lands, which trend of suffering by the Bengali people was reversed by Moghul General Shaiyasta Khan by his conquest of Chittagong in 1666 AD. True, Rakhine Moghs were so daring in capturing Bengali people as slaves that lower Bengal had no peace for almost two centuries. Historian Alamgir Serajuddin warns that, "The Arakanese [Rakhines] were a daring and turbulent people, a terror at once to themselves and to their neighbors. They fought among themselves and changed masters at will. Peace at home under a strong ruler signaled danger for neighbors." True, Arakan was a kingdom based essentially on slave trade when it had strong leader was a constant threat to its neighbor Bengal but when there was an internal chaos,it continued to act disorderly which trend continues till today in Arakan
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Kyaw AungOTTAMA, the famous anti Muslim monk of Arakan


Myanmar in Focus: Behind the Violence (I)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alYX0gk-qb4


THE RAKHINE MONKS ARE DANGEROUSLY POLITICAL PEOPLE!

Rakhine Monks mixing with the rest of the Burmese monks lately has hijacked the public opinion in Burma in favor of exterminating Rohingyas. It is absolutely necessary to check Rakhine monks and Rakhine Mogh people's anti Bangladesh activities inside Bangladesh.


 Ashin Nayaka who is very much anti Muslim is their leader. Many of these innocent looking traveling monks in Bangladesh are responsible at home in Arakan for destroying mosques. The Jamai Mosque in Arakan is now a fire brigade station. REport says, monk lead the Muslim genocide in Arakan. Historically speaking, Monk Ottama, a Rakhine Mogh hero, caused the anti Muslim riot in Rangoon. They often refer that Bangladesh is a Muslim country. Read the history of Buddhist Arakan, it is terrible!

(Arakan Militant Buddhist Monks in Bangladesh Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBAsI4xXOMc&feature=plcp)

  • Rohingya Muslims can't keep a mosque in Arakan and the same anti Muslim Rakhine Moghs refugees has an independent newspaper monitoring   / spying developments in Bangladesh
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  • ARAKANI RAKHINE NEWSPAPER IN DHAKA
  •  NARANJERA< BURMA'S RAKHINE BUDDHIST NEWSPAPER IN BANGLADESH

Narinjara News Online 24 X 7

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  • SCENE OF MUSLIM EXTERMINATION IN ARAKAN




  • WATCH OUT BANGLADESH!
    For the past couple of months, the geopolitics in Bangladesh and Arakan of Burma is going through phenomenal changes. There has been already a storm of Muslim extermination from Arakan and in Chittagong Hill Tracts there is now a calm before storm. India a major player in this region, shares its border with Bangladesh's Chittagong Hill Tracts and Arakan of Burma. Most observers wonder why India is silent in the Muslim genocide in Arakan? Why the pro-Indian Aung San Suu Kyi is also silent in the Rohingya genocide?  Why the pro-Indian Bangladesh government claims the recent Rakhine riot as a matter of Jamati incitement whereas the entire world calls it a planned military backed Rakhine attempt to exterminate the Muslim Rohingya? Bangladeshi observers wonder, when there is genocide going on in Arakan participated by Rakhine police, Na Sa Ka and security forces, why the pro Indian government of Hasina is awarding self rule to the Arakanese origin tribals in Bangladesh. In giving them autonomy, observers believe, it would give the tribals the rights to deny the rights of the Bangladeshi Bengali Muslims who are according to the 1993 census 45% of the people in Chittagong Hill Tracts.

  • ANTI BENGALI HATRED AND THE UNFOLDING TREND OF MUSLIM EXTERMINATION IN CHITTAGONG HILL TRACTS
  • Anti Bengali militant history in Chittagong Hill Tracts
    "Militants from (Chakma and Marma) tribes fought a two-decade guerrilla war against the Bangladesh government (1976-1997), during which Bengali Muslims... were regularly attacked and killed in large numbers, provoking inevitable retaliation. In 1997, the Shanti Bahini (Peace Force) which ran the armed campaign for the Buddhist tribes in southeast Bangladesh against government troops signed an accord with Dhaka. Their fighters laid down arms and returned to normal life when Bangladesh promised to create an autonomous council to fulfill the tribal aspirations for self rule and also to stop Muslims from settling in the plains districts of the Chittagong Hill Tracts. But because those... promises were never fully fulfilled, the Buddhist tribes people there remain restive and any large-scale settlement of Muslims, Rohingyas or Bengalis, some fear could reignite the conflict." Link: http://openblogbd.wordpress.com/2012/08/15/rohingya-issue-threatens-stability-in-south-asia/

  • Arakan and Chittagong Hill Tracts are two regions located in two countries, but we notice a common anti Muslim sentiment among the Arakanese origin Theraveda Buddhist leadership in Chittagong Hill Tracts,and in Arakan. They commonly demand for physically removal of Muslims from both regions. It shows signs of organized extermination of Muslims in Arakan (which is going on now) and from Chittagong Hill Tracts. The question is who are behind the unfolding of the drama? Is the government of Bangladesh aware of this?

    HASINA's GOVERNMENT BEHAVES STRANGELY!


  • Historically speaking, the tribes of Chittagong Hill Tracts are of Arakanese origin, their leaders also supported Pakistan during the liberation war of Bangladesh. After the war the tribal leadership declared Chittagong Hill Tracts as an independent Jumaland. It is normal for Bangladesh government to remain vigilant to this issue. Having said this, unlike the Burmese government's denial of the Rohingya Muslims citizenship rights, we appreciate Banglladesh government to recognize the tribals birth rights and their legitimacy to Bangladeshi citizenship.

  •  There are reports that the recent Rohingya Muslim massacre of June 2012 was monitored from Bangladesh. More surprisingly, in the midst of the Rohingya massacre, Bangladesh government appoints a separatist ex Chakma General from Bangladesh army as the ambassador to Burma. The ambassador it is reported send his unofficial representative to have contacts in Arakan for some unexplained reasons.

    WHO IS IN CHARGE?

    A Rakhine Mogh rebel leader who lived in Bangladesh for several years suddenly returns back to Arakan,this week receiving hero's welcome, then she goes to meet Aung San Suu Kyi, in Rangoon then she had scheduled a meeting with President Thein Sein and after this the Arakanese Rakhine exile plans to go back to Bangladesh to enjoy her refugee status. How is this possible? What makes it appropriate to have this Burmese Rakhine first return back to BArakan then to Rangoon then she returns to Bangladesh, especially when Hasina government randomly arrests or push back Burma's Rohingya Muslims to Burma? People wonder who are in charge of Bangladesh immigration to accept these suspected Arakanese Rakhine rebels? Questions abound what has changed ever since the Arakan riot that doesn't shelter Rohingya helpless people but allows these Rakhine extremists (who could be spies) to return back to Dhaka, Bangladesh? This is not the only suspected person to easily travel to Bangladesh, to my knowledge, some innocent looking Rakhine Monks and Rakhine separatists from Arakan now live in Bandorbon area of Chittagong Hill Tracts and move around freely inside Bangladesh while some of these same people are alleged to be behind the genocide of Rohingyas in Arakan and provocateurs in Cittagong Hill Tracts.
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NARINJARA NEWS REPORTS about this mysterious Arakanese lady's trip from Dhaka to Burma in the following :

  • Dhaka: A prominent Arakanese female leader, Saw Mra Raza Lin has returned to Burma on Monday after living in exile for 24 years.

    Saw Mra Zar Lin is the chairperson of the Rakhine Women Union (RWU) based in Bangladesh as well as a central committee member of Arakan Liberation Party(ALP).

    Exiled Female Arakanese Leader Returns from Bangladeshhttp://www.narinjara.com/main/index.php/exiled-female-arakanese-leader-returns-from-bangladesh

    She accompanied 6 members from Bangladesh through the Maungdaw-Teknaf border point across the Naff River by motor boat early morning on Monday.

    When she arrived at Sittwe jetty from Buthidaung by ferry boat, nearly 600 people holding posters and signboards welcomed and received her honoring her for her work.

    "I am going to put into motion my future political plan as I visit Burma. It is my first objective. The second objective is to donate some relief money to victims myself. Third is to open some liaison offices of the ALP in Arakan state in accordance with the government agreement," she told Narinjara concerning her temporary return to Burma.

    Mra Razar Lin flew to Yangon from Sittwe on Thursday. Just after arriving in Yangon, she met with leaders from the Rakhine Nationalities Development party (RNDP) there. She has reportedly asked for a appointment to meet with President U Thein Sein, Democracy leader Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, the 88 students group and ALD leaders.

    After twelve days of touring she will return to Bangladesh. "

  • Rakhines are only 5% of Burmese population but are 30% in the Burmese army. If these Rakhine separatists are not kept checked, it might bring trouble for both Burma's Arakan and in Bangladesh's Chittagong Hill Tracts. This is also because Rakhines are notoriously famous for making alliances. In the July Rohingya massacre, they were able to successfully hijack the Burmese opinion through employing their monks in Burma's Buddhist temples for the extermination of the Rohingyas.

  • History records Rohingya lived in Arakan from the 8th century but lately were denied of their citizenship in Burma. This was done by a Rakhine Mogh xenophobe named Aye Kyaw by convincing General Ne Win of Burma. Compared to the Rohingya settlement in Arakan, the Bangladeshi Rakhines settlement in Cox's Bazar is during the British period. What is shocking though is that the Arakanese exiled Rakhine Moghs traveling to Bangladesh as monks and separatists,are "illegals might be working against Bangladesh interest.

  •  New information came to our notice from Rohingya refugees that many Rakhine officials in the Arakan immigration and police were hired from Chakmas and Rakhines originally from Chittagong Hill Tracts. They were especially hired to deal with the Rohingya Muslim population. This racial hatred and conspiracy to exterminate Muslims from Arakan and Chittagong Hill Tracts by these political elements crossing the Bangladesh border has to be consciously stopped.

  • The two leaders, Aye Maung, Aye Chan and Mra Razar Lin who were identified as the alleged master minds behind the crimes against the Rohingya Muslim people in Arakan were either originally from Bangladeshi Rakhine and Barua background or lived in Bangladesh as a refugee. Aye Maung was born in Bangladesh and Aye Chan's father was a Bangladeshi Barua and mother was a Rakhine. They were reported to be regular visitors to Dhaka and Chittagong Hill Tracts. In not fully understanding the waive of growing anti Bengali Muslim racist sentiment in both Arakan and in Chittagong Hill Tracts, Bangladesh is already suffering from the influx of Rohingya refugees and Bangladesh's naivety dealing with the Rakhine Moghs from Arakan, Bangladesh is perhaps also waiting for an unfolding of Muslim extermination disaster in Chittagong Hill Tracts!

  • MORE MYSTERIOUS NEWS:
  • HASINA'S BANGLADESH AMBASSADOR TO MYANMAR SUPPORTED ROHINGYA MUSLIM GENOCIDE



    GENERAL ANUP CHAKMA HAS BEEN THE BANGLADESH AMBASSADOR TO BURMA
  • ANUP CHAKMA supports the Myanmar government's anti Rohingya policy says:
    "Bangladeshi government also had fully supported the appropriate actions taken by the Burmese government on June 11 just after the race riots. After releasing the detail news of riots in Bangladesh our government has also completely blocked all the border access into Bangladesh even while the superpower nations and some UN organizations had been demanding us to do the opposite..."
    http://hlaoo1980.blogspot.ca/2012/08/bangladeshi-ambassadors-comments-on.html

  • Burma's Rohingya: The Human Story
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vntGrS2nvY&feature=related

     Hasina's Mysterious Behavior


Popular 'Buddhist' racism and the generals' militarism
http://www.dvb.no/analysis/popular-buddhist-racism-and-the-generals%E2%80%99-militarism/23595#.UEawOJ9CRoQ.emai

The Rohingya, myths and misinformation

http://www.dvb.no/analysis/the-rohingya-myths-and-misinformation/22597

http://www.dvb.no/analysis/the-rohingya-and-the-denial-of-the-%E2%80%98right-to-have-rights%E2%80%99/22749


The Stream : The plight of the Rohingya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI_HE6mO4vE&feature=related





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 This is a must read exclussive from BUET VC, Dr. Nazrul Islam
http://www.real-timenews.com/details.php?id=51930&p=1&s=5
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
           










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[chottala.com] Inside the CIA Dossier on Iraq

Inside the CIA Dossier on Iraq

by VIJAY PRASHAD

Last week, Bishop Desmond Tutu was to sit beside former UK Prime
Minister Tony Blair at the cringingly named Discovery Invest
Leadership Summit in Johannesburg, South Africa. Tutu, one of the main
moral voices in the anti-Apartheid struggle, decided to withdraw. He
could not stand to sit next to Blair, or to Tony's mate, George W.
Bush because they had "fabricated the grounds [for war on Iraq] to
behave like playground bullies." Stingingly, in The Observer
(September 1), Tutu recounted how he had called the White House a few
days before the 2003 invasion, spoke to National Security Advisor
Condoleezza Rice and asked her to give the UN weapons inspectors more
time to do their work. But "Ms. Rice demurred, saying there was too
much risk and the president would not postpone any longer." The US and
UK went to war, and according to Tutu, "More than 110,000 Iraqis have
died in the conflict since 2003 and millions have been displaced. By
the end of last year, nearly 4,500 American soldiers had been killed
and more than 32,000 wounded."

Amnesia over Iraq has already set in. President Obama refused to
countenance any prosecution for Bush era officials (and Bush himself)
for the fabrications that Tutu alleges. In the UK, the Chilcot Inquiry
on the Iraq War has finished its deliberations, but Sir John Chilcot
has delayed the release of the final report for a full year because of
wrangling to prevent Blair's private letters to Bush from being
revealed (he perhaps does not want to allow validation that in a July
2002 note he wrote, "You know, George, whatever you decide to do, I'm
with you). At his appearances at the Inquiry, Blair admitted that the
Iraqis were continuing to allow weapons inspectors, and that, as Sir
Lawrence Freedman suggested, they had "started to reap dividends."
However, Blair worried that Saddam was "back to his old games" and was
not capable of a "change of heart." In his paper-thin memoirs, A
Journey, Blair notes the question of regret for the war should not be
a public question, but it can only be asked and answered "in the quiet
reflection of the soul."

If this were a universal standard, then Syria's Bashar Assad can
relax, and so should all those who are threatened with arrest and
trial at the International Criminal Court. They too should be allowed
to claim that retrospective analysis of war crimes is a matter of the
"quiet reflection of the soul," not public, legal accountability.

The flimsy thread of evidence presented to the UN on February 5, 2003,
by an increasingly chagrined Colin Powell has now been resoundingly
debunked. Not one of the claims remains aloft: the aluminum tubes were
for legal missiles; the desert trailers were hydrogen gas generators;
the Decontamination Vehicles were firefighting equipment; the fabled
Yellowcake Uranium from Niger entered the dossier through a "black
ops" mission run through the Italian military intelligence service,
SISMI, and the neo-conservatives in the various institutions of US
intelligence. Colonel Larry Wilkerson, Powell's Chief of Staff, told
Craig Unger (Vanity Fair, July 2006) that the neo-conservatives would
not let the Yellowcake seep out of Powell's statement, "You would take
it out and they would stick it back in. That was their favorite
bureaucratic technique—ruthless relentlessness." This was the heart of
the fabrication that took the US and the UK into the war, and rendered
a bewildered UN mute.

Ambassador Joseph Wilson went to Niger on February 26, 2002, met the
Prime Minister and the Minister of Mines and confirmed that the faxes
and documents in the Italian folder were all forged. This was known
inside the State Department a year before Powell went to the UN and
before the US and UK went to war. By September 2002, despite these
warnings, the UK government published a fifty page, fourteen-point
report that relied on the view that "Iraq has sought the supply of
significant quantities of uranium from Africa." On September 24, Blair
referred to this "dossier of death" in his condemnation of Iraqi
regime. These were lies that had been repeated so often that they had
earned the aura of truth. But they were lies nonetheless (the "dossier
of death" is now called the "dodgy dossier," sexed up to fit the
facts, as one UK official told the BBC in May 2003). No one has been
prosecuted for the Yellowcake Uranium forgeries.

Out of the bowels of the CIA, extracted by the relentlessness of the
National Security Archives, comes a document this week with a
remarkable title: Misreading Intentions: Iraq's Reaction to
Inspections Created Picture of Deception (5 January 2006). This report
was part of the CIA's Iraq WMD Retrospective Series, produced by the
Office of Iraq Analysis. Most of the declassified document is
censored, but that does not stop at least two remarkable conclusions
to emerge from it:

That the US misjudged the suspicious behavior of the Saddam Hussein
regime. "Ironically, even at key junctures when the regime attempted
to partially or fully comply with UN resolutions," the CIA noted in
2006, "its suspicious behavior and destruction of authenticating
documentation only reinforced the perception that Iraq was being
deceptive." When Iraq was "clumsy" in its attempt to shield itself
from UN or US scrutiny, rather than read this as an attempt to protect
state sovereignty (a cardinal view of Saddam Hussein's Ba'ath
ideology), the CIA read it as guilt that they had nuclear and
biological weapons in the desert. What trapped the CIA, in other
words, was that it could not sufficiently analyze the behavior of what
it saw as a serial deceiver. Or as they put it in their own jargon, "A
liability of intelligence analysis is that once a party has been
proven to be an effective deceiver, that knowledge becomes a heavy
factor in the calculations of the analytical observer."

At one point, the report acknowledges that this is not so much a
problem of deception and analysis but a problem of cultural
assessment. Here is the CIA report: "Analysts tend to focus on what
was most important to us – the hunt for WMD – and less on what would
be most important for a paranoid dictatorship to protect. Viewed
through an Iraqi prism, their reputation, their security, their
overall technological capabilities, and their status needed to be
preserved. Deceptions were perpetrated and detected, but the reasons
for those deceptions were misread." In other words, the CIA was right
to identify evidence of deception, but wrong in its analysis of why
Iraq was being deceptive: not to hide WMDs, but to protect its own
sovereignty and to provide ambiguous signals to its principal threats
(Iran and Israel). Analysts understood that Iraq's regime had a
different "logic system," but these same analysts did not grasp how
the differences manifest themselves.

The Iraqis were right. Anyone on the anti-war side in 2002-03 will
remember how hard it was to make the case that it might well be the
situation that the Iraqis have no WMDs. This is what the former UN
weapons inspector Scott Ritter had tried to do (in detail in War on
Iraq, 2002, an extended interview with Ritter conducted by William
Rivers Pitt), and this is what so many broadsheets and pamphlets tried
to argue (as did many writers at Counterpunch). It appears now that
the CIA in 2006 thinks that not only were we right on the facts (that
there were no WMDs) but that our assessment of the data available at
that time was correct.

This is a very important distinction. There is no way that that
anti-war left could have proved a counterfactual (if there are no
WMDs, what can one show to establish this?). What we can see, in
retrospect, is that given the kinds of evidence available through the
UN reports and given our own sense of the historical behavior of the
Saddam Hussein regime, we could see that it was likely that there were
no WMDs. The CIA's assessment notes, "Given Iraq's extensive history
of deception and only small changes in outward behavior, [CIA]
analysts did not spend adequate time examining the premise that the
Iraqis had undergone a change in their behavior, and that what Iraq
was saying by the end of 1995 was, for the most part, accurate." For
the eight years prior to the US-UK war that finished off the regime,
it was the Iraqis who were telling the truth. This should be
front-page news in the major newspapers. It is as likely as not to be
utterly ignored.

In July 2003, Blair's former National Security Advisor, Sir Rodric
Braithwaite wrote in the Financial Times, "Fishmongers sell fish;
warmongers sell war." That is what Blair and Bush did: they sold the
war based on intelligence that was very badly assessed and obscenely
poorly analyzed to a public terrified by the exaggerations and
inflamed by jingoism. Given that there has been no public accounting
of the falsehoods and no legal procedures against those who betrayed
their public offices, no lessons have been learned.

Much the same garbled nonsense is on offer with Iran, with
exaggerations and omissions leading the way forward. August has been a
bad month for this. On August 9, 2012, Barak Ravid wrote a piece based
on what "Western diplomats and Israeli officials" told his newspaper,
Ha'aretz. The headline was "Obama gets new US NIE: Iran making
surprising progress toward nuclear capability." There has been little
follow-through on this National Intelligence Estimate. This was all
smoke and mirrors. On August 30, 2012, the New York Times ran a story
on the new IAEA report on Iran with the headline, "Inspectors Confirm
New Work by Iran at Secure Nuclear Site." The word work played the
devil's role. In fact, the IAEA report noted of the processed fuel,
"Some of the 20 percent fuel is in a form that is extremely difficult
to use in a bomb, and most of the stockpile is composed of a fuel
enriched at a lower level that would take considerably longer to
process for weapons use." Once more the warmongers are selling war. It
is in their nature.

It is also in the nature of people like Bishop Tutu to stand firm
against mendacity. It is a pity that his call for an investigation
will be mockingly dismissed.

Vijay Prashad's new book, Arab Spring, Libyan Winter , is published by AK Press.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/06/inside-the-cia-dossier-on-iraq/


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[chottala.com] Bangladesh will remain strongly in World map and it will cross India in all aspects very soon



Dear Readers
Good day.
1.    Who is this  Kamnath- that we want to know first. What is his intention of writing this.  Most of his informations regardings camps inside BD are false -may be made by media or his own creation.  Most of the people of Bangladesh who are less than 40 or born after 1971 don't consider India as good neighbour. It is big a country but having small heart.
     - No good neighbour constructs hard boundaries/fenches around his friendly country.
     - A good neighbour does not construct barrages to divert water from international rivers without the consent of his neighbour.
 
2.    What we the young generations  of BD think, India got to change her mindset first. She only knows how to take from others -she doesn't know how to share the things in a peaceful manner.
 
3.     If I would have the power,I would have stopped  easy access of all the Indian TV channels in BD. It should be one to one clean exchange basis. We should only take which is good for us.
 
4.    We should not allow any billboard beside our roads showing actress/actors of other countries as Brand Ambassedor of the products-if required they will select good faces from our country.This must be stopped in  TV ad and other print and eletronic media as well.
 
5.   We have not heard any phencydil carrier is shot dead by BSF moreover most of the  phencydil industries are around BD boarder -inside India.They have intentionally made it to destroy our youth. Look this is our good neighbour!!
6.    Shame on garments business men of BD, they sell some of garments of India on the basis of few Indian TV serial's characters- shame on customers also!!
7.    We should avoid foreign garments and products, specially indian sharees,clothes,cosmatics  as much as we can.
 
       We are not against India or any one, but if our country/our people are any how affected  by others we are ready to destroy all these barriers-it may be barrages, damps,fences and other things(all  man-made features).
        As Mr Kamnath is very much  worried about BD's existance,so I can give him another proposal,let us  have a country named Bangladesh with all bengali speaking people of the world including their land.
 
Thanks.
MK Islam
 
 
 

From: Debasish Barua <gorba196138@yahoo.com>
To: "chottala@yahoogroups.com" <chottala@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Re: Existential threat to Bangladesh

 
Why not Pakistan then...is'nt that part of Pakistan neighboring India has similar situation as author hints of between West Bengal and East Bengal..is not not true PUNJAB is in Both Pakistan & India is,nt not true Jammu & Kashmir is still disputed between India & Pakistan...

I think it has been many water under the bridge Bangladesh do not need necessarily need bad relation ship with its neighbor..but has been their since 1971 Dec that is almost 41 year...and will make it longer..

May not be surprised some the author do not mention who where LORD CURZONS adviser..they.are the same who wish to divide INDIA into further..it is the same force they are the one that divided the are the one wanting to put it back together, they are the one that again conspiring to break it down further( India as each state each country)..

All I can tell you is this..I would not give them ANY OF THAT PLEASURE...LORD CURZON & BRITISH had left many years ago..they even left HONG KONG..

It is the same force..in US & British National Assemblies...

The thing is it will be long time some one from TAMIL NADU/ OR ASSAM/OR URISSA will be prime minister or President of India..and same in many other states of India..it was an exception this time MAMATA BANERJEE tried SONGMA..they do have state assemblies..and Gov and etc..

What ever India wishes..my opinion may not matter...I just do not like those guys gleeing 
From: Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>
To: Zoglul Husain <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 8:08 PM
Subject: [chottala.com] Re: Existential threat to Bangladesh

 
Existential threat to Bangladesh

On 9/8/12, Zoglul Husain <mailto:zoglul%40hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

In The Hindu (one of the principal English dailies of India) M V Kamath wrote,

"Let it be said in simple and plain language : Bangladesh has no
business to exist. Its creation in 1947 was as historic a mistake as
Lord Curzon's partition of Bengal was in 1905. Curzon's plan to divide
Bengal was annulled because in the end Bengal's sense of unity
prevailed.Bangladesh, if it wants to survive, must return to India and
India in return must help it to do so. The answer to the problem of
illegal immigration of Bangladeshi's into India lies in one word :
Federation. No mather how loudly the current rulers of Bangladesh may
deny it, Bangladesh can never be self-sufficient. It has a cultural
identity of its own that it shares with West Bengal. It could never be
part of Pakistan and its creation should have been foreseen. So should
its ultimate unity with India, no matter what resistance Begum Zia may
offer or the Jamaat-e-Islami. What needs to be worked out is the
nature of Bangladeshi's reconciliation with India."

http://www.mail-archive.com/assam%40pikespeak.uccs.edu/msg03800.html
>
> Please click to read the Daily Sangram article (4 September 2012), which refers to the above:
>
http://www.dailysangram.com/news_details.php?news_id=95170
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