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Saturday, September 15, 2007

[chottala] Re: [khabor.com] Who helped rise of crony capitalism & parasitic compadore classes in Bangladesh ?

Thanks Mr. Aslam.
 
You have explained very nicely.
 
I would request you also to read the articles of Mr. Abdul Gaffar Choudhury, written on some reply to some historical criticism and some unknown events on BAKSAL (in about 15 episodes) in the Daily Bhorer Kagoj during 2004-2005
 
You can also read some very good publication made by the central committee 'Bangabandhu Parishad' at Dhaka, since formation of 'Bangabandhu Parishad' by Bose Professor Dr. Matin Choudhury to now.
 
Actually all the political scientist/analysts recognise that BAKSAL was the temporary arrangement to recover from the worst socio-political-economic solution situation prevailing after massive LOOT PAT & destruction by Paki during the liberation war of 1971 and after 16th December 1971 by the defeated enemy of Bangladesh ('Muslim Bangla', different SORBOHARA groups & some extent by JSD) and Jamat-Razakar-Paki minded overt & covert supporters-businessman-civil & Army bureaucrats.
 
I can cite one example, how Paki-Jamat minded officials were still active (in veil) in the administration of newly independent Bangladesh. Golam Azam's sons, who were in run after 16th December 1971, due to their misdeeds, were issued Bangladeshi Passport, most probably from Sylhet, as they have some hidden agent there. How they got the clearance from the police department?
 
Please read the nice input of  Mr. Shafiqur Rahman Anu, who  correctly said,
 
"the BAKSAL programme of Bangabandhu is the best programme to develop Bangladesh and to get economic sovereignty.
 
To successfully perform a complicated, modern & best medical operation - it needs the best, modern and expert surgeon.
 
Experienced & best teacher are need for outstanding results of common students
 
Similarly to implement the best political programme, BAKSAL, for the total development of Bangladesh, need also, best & expert political leader like Bangabandhu. He was the only leader, who would successfully implemented BAKSAL programme in Bangladesh & we would get a developed, prosperous, peaceful Bangladesh in the mean time..
 
That is why enemy & conspirator of 'developed Bangladesh' planning killed Bangabandhu, to make Bangladesh a 'failure student'."
 
Vey correct.
 
 
Sharif
 
Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
Who helped the rise of  crony capitalism and parasitic compadore classes
in Bangladesh !
 
WRT:

Mr. Shah Abdul Hannan
 
So you had a choice and you didn't join BAKSAL.
In essence, you have agreed  that joining BAKSAL was not 
compulsory for the government employees, en mass. 
 
General Zia had the same choice, but he promptly  accepted
the invitation and  joined BAKSAL: Perhaps, to prove his
(fake) loyalty to Mujib and thus  get a quick promotion ....(sheer
opportunism !) .......where was his moral high ground at that time!
 
 
I am neither a supporter nor a opponent of BAKSAL or Awami League.
My information on BAKSAL is only through secondary sources. 
No one denies the fact that BAKSAL was based on  Communist
model and was authoritarian in nature.   [The social costs and
benefits (if any) of  authoritarianism and regimentation is 
debatable and can be discussed in a different thread].
 
As far as I have understood by studying the  history of Bangladesh,
the BAKSAL  system was an experiment with socialism as its main 
objective.  May be, it was utopian in the socio- political context of the
then  Bangladesh .
 
But, it remains little puzzling to me as to what would have prevented
the rise of crony capitalism and  the rise of a parasitic compadore classes
in Bangladesh . Ms Dina Khan and Mr. Adikhari's writings on the matter
has some valid points.
 
Please tell me what the masses of Bangladesh got in 31 years
by choosing the path chartered by the people who overthrew
BAKSAL. Even, to Hasina, the daughter of Mujib the very
name BAKSAL  was an anathema.
 
I differ with your contention that who joined BAKSAL
and who didn't is not important.
 
You as a political activist may conveniently think so. Just like your
party Jamaat thinks that who joined Muktijuddho and who opposed
it is not important. [Recall your now hidden, now open connection 
with  Jamaat-e-Islami of Bangladesh and your Islami Chttro Sangha
(Shibir) days ].
 
But, for us, the silent onlookers of our contemporary
history,  every actons of the main players in the different phases
of our history important. We need that in order to understand
the historical  processes through which we are passing.
 
 
BTW, I have been told by one researcher in Bangladesh Studies
that Bangladesh Observer published a  list of government officials
who responded to the invitation letter for joining BAKSAL on or
about 25th of July 1975.  The complete list at that time only
consisted only 57 names [Military & Civil Service officials]. The
back-issues of  Bangladesh Observer is available in Microfiche at
Widener Library of Harvard University, Cambridge, MA, USA.
 
Regards
 
Syed Aslam

 
On 9/12/07, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com > wrote:
Dearmembers and Mr Syed Aslam,
 
Assalamu Alaikum.Yes. I was a mid-level officer at that time.All departments, all Heads of offices received letters  from the government to  ask all officers under them   to become members of BAKSAL.
I am writing this from memory.I never wanted to be member of a political party as a government official.I was all the time praying so that I may not have to be a member. Unlike many others I delayed the matter.In the meantime the regime changed and I escaped the dis-honour and shame of becoming a member of a political party as a government official( as is the case of communist states).
Shah Abdul Hannan
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [khabor.com] Re: General Zia's joined BAKSAL voluntarilyn - Attention Mr. Mohiuddin Anwer

 
Mr. Shah Abdul Hannan
 
Can you show us some documentary evidence to prove that every government  employees were required to become member of the then single party  BAKSAL?
 
So far I understand: before BAKSAL ammendment [Fourth Amendment to the constitution of Bangladesh.] state employees were not permitted to member of any political party. Under the Fourth Amendment (Article 117A),  the government employees were allowed to join the political party BAKSAL..  But it was not compulsory for every government servants to join BAKSAL.
 
Only a handful of opportunist, career seekers and sychophants, amongst the government officials,  joined BAKSAL voluntarily during the two and half months
of BAKSAL's life-span. That includes General Ziaur Rahman.
 
Stounchly anti-Mujib, self-proclaimed Baksaler Zom Mr. Mohiuddin Anwar,  himself has admitted this in many of his postings in Vinnomot, Mukto-Mona and
Khabor. The most recent one can be seen in:
 
By the way,  I far as I have read from  you postings in different
Yahoo Group messages, you were a Government Officer in 1975. Just be honest and tell us if you had joined BAKSAL?  If so, how and  when did you join? Was there an application form? Have you taken any   oath while joining? [Like you did when you joined Islami Chattro Shangha, the predecessor of Sibir] .
 
Tell us the details of the processes through which the employees of the Bangladesh Government became BAKSAL members in 1975.
It is very important to know the camillions who jumped into theband-wagon of BAKSAL and quickly chaged their colors soon after it's collaspe.
 
An honest answer would be your real contribution to study of current events and  contemporary history! So, please don't evade the question and justify that as a taqia as many Jamatis do.
 
Regards
 
Syed Aslam
 
 
On 9/12/07, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com > wrote:
Dear members,
 
Assalamu Alaikum.It is not very important who was member of BAKSAL or not because, the authorities saw to it that every government officer becomes member of the then single party .It was difficult at that dictatorial  time to refuse to become member of that party.
 
Shah Abdul Hannan
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:30 PM
Subject: [khabor.com] Re: General Zia's joined BAKSAL voluntarilyn - Attention Mr. Mohiuddin Anwer

 
--- In khabor@yahoogroups.com, "Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan" <srbanunz@...>
wrote:
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> Mr. Parvez,
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> If you do not know this simple and primary information - facts of
> initial period of Bangladesh Krisok Sromik Awami League (BAKSAL),
> then how do you make silly comments on Bangladesh Krisok Sromik
> Awami League and also other detail, complex and knowledge based
> items of Bangladesh Krisok Sromik Awami League?

Why unnecessarily engage in such nonsense? There is no heaven
cracking knowledge base or complexity involved in Bakshal - the most
nasty and notorious chapter in the history of the nation.

Now my question is back again: Is there any credible documentation
to suggest that ZIA was a member of Bakshal? To my knowledge, it is
an outright NO. You can produce some credible documents if you
think I am wrong.

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> So, please study, read more, do proper research than make comments.
>

I just asked a question and did not make any comment. Looks like it
provoked you way beyond it actually should. I am amused!

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> There are plenty of documents, paper posting, books where those
> simple and primary information & facts, history are available and
> where your requested answer is also mentioned.

This is nothing more than hand waving.
Quote me any credible evidence before I buy your theory. I did not
see any evidence anywhere to suggest that Ziaur Rahman was a memebr
of Bakshal. By all evidence, Ziaur Rahman was not a member of
BAKSHAL and you are engaged in fallacy, falsehood and propaganda.
Geneal Shafiullah was a memebr of Bakshal but that was as Chief of
Staff and not in a personal capacity. The then BAKSHAL regime made
it mandatory for chiefs of the of the armed forces to join BAKSHAL.

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> Gen Zia, the then deputy COS, requested some Awami League
> ministers, MPs & leaders to join Bangladesh Krisok Sromik Awami
> League.

This is incredible. A mlitary officer asking political authority to
join a political movement! This will beat even funny fairy tales!!

For argument's sake -even if it is true- couldn't the Awami
politicians commit suicide before they got their politial directive
from a military officer?

Even if he did, that does not automatically mean that he was a
member of BAKSHAL as such.

> So, think before ink!

You caused me to think enough...
Show me evidence and I will buy your theory. Otherwise it is
falsehood and fabrication.

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> Shafiqur Rahman Bhuiyan (ANU)
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