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Tuesday, May 1, 2012

Re: [chottala.com] Should Singapore Model be adopted?



I have no problem when parent scolds their children if the child eats too many candy. One may call that AUTHORATARIAN parents so be it..


From: "turkman@sbcglobal.net" <turkman@sbcglobal.net>
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 2:27 PM
Subject: [chottala.com] Should Singapore Model be adopted?

 
Looks like Topic has been switched here. I think, what works should be adopted for good of all. That's all.

--- In chottala@yahoogroups.com, Debasish Barua <gorba196138@...> wrote:
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> I might have to eat my word one day about my comments on Judiciary in USA, just take a look at the picture of the Judge that caused rumble in USA, who apprently a NIXON Appointee...he is the one that ruled on the case of AAtheist Dr who fought a legal battle over I think Pledge of alligence. I think Dr Himself did not have a life.., he basically represented himself...It is the judge that made ruling in his favor...I think he even invoked HINDU GOD VISHNU as us population is changing in more then one ways...JUST take a good look at the picture of the JUDGE...If you do not belive in reincarnation...He will remind you of Justice B. A. Siddique...
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> From: Debasish Barua <gorba196138@...>
> To: "chottala@yahoogroups.com" <chottala@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Should Singapore Model be adopted?
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> When you bring SINGAPORE up..Intersting issue I suggest you find a copy of ABC's 20/20 Heraldo left...I think it was ROGER STRAUSSEL or so who narated and compared COMMUNIST WEST BENGAL to SINGAPORE...I think SINGAPORE does have electoral system but as far as I could tell things were as AUTHORATITIVE as One Party System..even at that now a days SINGAPORE buys AIRBUS and so..and some of CHINESE CHINESE BHAI BHAI has taken control..
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> You may question AUTHORATARIAN RULE...they even have it in USA...you have to be here to know in some way it is abit more crooked JUDICIARY is heavilly biased occasionally and Money plays a big role..Ordinary crimes ingnored other places such as traffic tickets you can end up in hugh mess..
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> From: "turkman@..." <turkman@...>
> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:29 AM
> Subject: [chottala.com] Should Singapore Model be adopted?
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> Well, so what I hear is, we do not understand Democracy and Sh. Mujib was right because he had wanted to declare the country Communist. May be we should move to Singapore Model of one Party Government then. In Singapore, people are just like Bengalis but Political System is Communist. Social System is similar to Western Europe's Welfare State System and Economy is free the way Foreign Capitalists want but no avoiding Taxes by them.
> In Singapore Economy is free, not Freedom of Speech. Capitalism rules but under Socialist Tax System.
> Singapore System is so Anti Rich, when cars were $ 8,000 in USA, they used to cost $ 78,000 in Singapore but then, now Singapore's Standard of Living is similar to rich EU Countries and Per Capita Income is not much lower than any rich EU Country at $ 36,000, while BD Per Capita still not even $ 1000. What would you like better?
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> --- In chottala@yahoogroups.com, dina khan <dina30_khan@> wrote:
> >
> > â"¬Ð°
> > First
> > of all you all need to learn to know
> > â"¬Ð°You need to
> > understand what types of politicians in Bangladesh are
> > i)â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð° What
> > does mean democracy?
> > ii)â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð° Whether
> > they know or not?
> > iii)â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°â"¬Ð° Isdemocracy lawful system or free style system democracy?
> > If democracy is followed system of law under lawful
> > constitution then politicians are needed to be honest lawful politicians to follow
> > the system of law under lawful honest discipline administration.
> > If democracy is followed free style system then politicians do not
> > require following any constitutional rules of law then politicians can do any thing
> > what they like to do and can say any word what politicians wish to say.
> > â"¬Ð°Now can you explain what type of politicians in Bangladesh are?
> >
> > â"¬Ð°
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@>
> > To: chottala@yahoogroups.com; manik195709@; syed.aslam3@; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; dahuk@yahoogroups.com; dr.dipumoni@; drmohsinali@; nazrulic@; jnrsr53@
> > Cc: shuprava@; nazrulic@; guhasb@; abid.bahar@; faruquealamgir@; chottala@yahoogroups.com; dr.dipumoni@; drmohsinali@; srbanunz@; manik195709@; captchowdhury@; kamalctgu@; abuilla@; abman1971@; ahkhokon@; akhtarudduza@; alihabib23@; anjbose@; arafat@; arafat@; arafat80@; awamileague@yahoogroups.com; boseasoke@; chowdhuryk@; curzon70@; dasguptaajoy@; gopalsengupta@; info@; jahir-7579@; jalalabir@; kaium91@; kamrul_k@; kamrulk@; khabor@yahoogroups.com; khondkar.saleque@; m.harun@; malam@; manik061624@; milton.hasnat@; mlmandal1@; mollaltf@; mostofa@; mozammelbabu@;
> > nickson@; nurannabi@; palak.newage@; poplu@; poriprekkhit@; sabbir.rahman@; salim-hazari@; salimhazari@; smrezaulk@; suvassingho@; swadeshroy@; syed.aslam3@; think_tank_habib@; uttam68bd@; veirsmill@; victory1971@; yeamin.anis.email@; yeamin24@
> > Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2012 5:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Democratic Rights & Democracy
> >
> >
> > â"¬Ð°
> > Mr. Turkman,
> > â"¬Ð°
> > Did you know how Hasina behaved while she was in opposition ?
> > Did she followed the rule of Democracy?
> > Why just blaming current opposition?
> > Who called most hortals in Bangladesh's historuy?
> > Who called to attack her folwers with Logi Beitha as wellas killed several opponents of her party ?
> > Donot compare the rules of democratic behavior of the western nation, we live in Bangladesh and our Democracy
> > is still infant, it needs maturity. Probably weâ"¬Ð°may not â"¬Ð°see real democracy in Bangladesh as long as arrogant
> > Dictator Hasina is alive and active in politics. We have to wait until she leaves politics in Bangladesh by the democracy loving
> > people of Bangladesh.
> > Sooner that happens is good for democracy in bangladesh.
> > Bangladesh currently running one woman show under Hasina misrule in the name of so called
> > Democratic rule. Nation is unfortunate to have a leader like Hasina.
> > Definiterly Hasina's bad days are comig like Joar Bhata. This Joar will end soon like all dictators.
> > â"¬Ð°
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: S Turkman <turkman@>
> > To: mohiuddin@
> > Cc: shuprava@, nazrulic@, guhasb@, â"¬Ð°abid.bahar@, faruquealamgir@, chottala@yahoogroups.com, â"¬Ð°dr.dipumoni@, drmohsinali@, srbanunz@, â"¬Ð°manik195709@, captchowdhury@, kamalctgu@, â"¬Ð°abuilla@, abman1971@, ahkhokon@, â"¬Ð°akhtarudduza@, alihabib23@, anjbose@, â"¬Ð°arafat@, arafat@, arafat80@, â"¬Ð°awamileague@yahoogroups.com, boseasoke@, chowdhuryk@, â"¬Ð°curzon70@, dasguptaajoy@, gopalsengupta@, â"¬Ð°info@, jahir-7579@, jalalabir@, â"¬Ð°kaium91@, kamrul_k@, kamrulk@, â"¬Ð°khabor@yahoogroups.com, khondkar.saleque@, m.harun@, â"¬Ð°malam@, manik061624@, milton.hasnat@, â"¬Ð°mlmandal1@, mollaltf@, mostofa@,
> > â"¬Ð°mozammelbabu@, nickson@, nurannabi@, â"¬Ð°palak.newage@, poplu@, poriprekkhit@, â"¬Ð°sabbir.rahman@, salim-hazari@, salimhazari@, â"¬Ð°smrezaulk@, suvassingho@, swadeshroy@, â"¬Ð°syed.aslam3@, think_tank_habib@, uttam68bd@, â"¬Ð°veirsmill@, victory1971@, yeamin.anis.email@, â"¬Ð°yeamin24@
> > Subject: [chottala.com] Democratic Rights & Democracy
> > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:22:00 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >
> > â"¬Ð°
> > Peaceful Demonstrations are a part of 'Democracy' but used by Criminals to 'overthrow' a 'Democratically Elected Government', they are 'Treason'. There are Rules that Demonstrators have to follow.
> > .
> > 1.â"¬Ð° In Western Democracies, you need a Permit to demonstrate. Do Demonstrators apply for a Permit, mentioning day, time and announce their Route ahead of time in B.D.?
> > 2. Even Demonstrators with Permit, if not following the guidelines or vandalizing or looting face Police force in all Western Democracies so, what's new in B.D. and what's wrong with Police that faces unruly crazy Demonstrations?
> > 3, Purpose of Demonstrations in the West is not outright overthrow of Elected Government in a Democracy and Mob Raj that B.D. Demonstrators want. In the West they want new Elections to change, what they do not like, not overthrow of Government through Army, like Demonstrators in B.D. want.
> > .
> > Opposition Political Parties of B.D. should let the Elected Party finish its term but they have right to demonstrate peacefully propagating their cause instead of making their crazy poor or rented followers get beat up by Police and then trying to get Sympathy Votes in next Elections. Wrong use of Democratic Rights by Ruling Party or Opposition does not create a good Democracy. It creates a Mob Raj. â"¬Ð°
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@>
> >
> >
> >
> > Mr. Turkman,
> > How do youâ"¬Ð°â"¬Ð°think that all demionstrators in Bangladeshâ"¬Ð° are criminal ?
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: S Turkman <turkman@>
> >
> >
> >
> > Oh sure because Police in USA run by an Anti USA Moslim Socialist according to some Americans has been 'suppressing' Criminals by arresting them using Weapons, those Criminals 'should have the same right to defend themselves. After all all lives are precious".
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@>
> >
> >
> > If RAW agents and Awami cadres take up arms to suppress opposition, opposition activists â"¬Ð°should have the same right to defend themselves.After all all lives are precious.
> > who wants to die without resisting ?
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: nickson barua <shuprava@>
> >
> >
> > I am against "Goom" whichâ"¬Ð°was introduced through killing Bangabondhu. In the name of Iliyasâ"¬Ð°how many death body you (BNP) need to create an issue against government??????????????
> > One day you have to answer for it to the nation &â"¬Ð°to those victim families. â"¬Ð°
> >
> > â"¬Ð°
> > ________________________________
> > From: mohiuddin@
> >
> >
> > â"¬Ð°
> > Now That Awami Armed cadres joined the brutal Polie/RAB force, is it necessary for the people toâ"¬Ð°resist the brtual regime with all available means ?â"¬Ð°
> > The brutal Hasina regime killing opposition activists with all state power.
> > How long opposition activists can resist the brutal government forces (actively joined by ruling party's armed cadres) peacefully â"¬Ð°?
> > RAW agents â"¬Ð°may have infiltrated the government forces.
> > How much blood Hasina needs to stay in power ?
> > â"¬Ð°
> > â"¬Ð°
> > â"¬Ð°
> > рж╕ржâ"�ржâ–"рзЗржЯрзЗржâ–` ржмржâ"�рж╢рзÐ�ржмржирж╛ржерзЗ ржЧрзÐ`ржâ–"ржâ"�рждрзЗ ржиржâ"�рж╣ржд рзи
> > ________________________________
> >
> > рж╕рж╛ржмрзÐ�ржмржâ"�ржâ–` ржЖрж╣ржоржж, рж╕рзÐ�ржЯрж╛ржл ржХржâ–`рзЗрж╕ржкржирзÐ�ржбрзЗржирзÐ�ржЯ
> > ржмрж╛ржÐ'ржâ–"рж╛ржиржâ"�ржЙржЬржЯрзЛржпржâ•�рзЗржирзÐ�ржЯржâ"�ржлрзЛржâ–`.ржХржо
> >
> > ржЫржмржâ"�: ржмрж╛ржÐ'ржâ–"рж╛ржиржâ"�ржЙржЬржЯрзЛржпржâ•�рзЗржирзÐ�ржЯржâ"�ржлрзЛржâ–`.ржХржо
> > ржмржâ"�рж╢рзÐ�ржмржирж╛рже (рж╕ржâ"�ржâ–"рзЗржЯ) ржерзЗржХрзЗ: ржкрзÐ`ржâ–"ржâ"�рж╢-ржЬржирждрж╛ рж╕ржÐ'ржШржâ–`рзÐ�рж╖рзЗржâ–` ржкржâ–` ржЗржâ–"ржâ"�ржпржâ•�рж╛рж╕ ржЖржâ–"рзÐ�ржâ–` ржЬржирзÐ�ржорж╕рзÐ�ржерж╛ржи рж╕ржâ"�ржâ–"рзЗржЯрзЗржâ–` ржмржâ"�рж╢рзÐ�ржмржирж╛рже ржмрж╛ржЬрж╛ржâ–`рзЗржâ–` ржХржпржâ•�рзЗржХ ржмржâ–`рзÐ�ржЧ ржХржâ"�ржâ–"рзЛржоржâ"�ржЯрж╛ржâ–` ржПржâ–"рж╛ржХрж╛ржпржâ•� ржПржЦржи ржХрзЗржмржâ–" ржпрждрзÐ�ржâ–`рждрждрзÐ�ржâ–` ржЫржбржâ•�рж╛ржирзЛ ржЗржЯ-ржкрж╛ржЯржХрзЗржâ–", ржâ–`рж╛рж╕рзÐ�рждрж╛ржпржâ•� ржЖржЧрзÐ`ржирзЗржâ–`
> ржЪржâ"�рж╣рзÐ�ржиред ржЬржиржорж╛ржиржмрж╢рзÐ'ржирзÐ�ржп рж╣ржпржâ•�рзЗ ржкржбржâ•�рж╛ ржкрзÐ`ржâ–`рзЛ ржПржâ–"рж╛ржХрж╛рждрзЗржЗ ржержоржержорзЗ ржкржâ–`ржâ"�рж╕рзÐ�ржержâ"�рждржâ"� ржмржâ"�ржâ–`рж╛ржЬ ржХржâ–`ржЫрзЗред
> > рж╕рзЛржпржâ•�рж╛ ржжрзÐ`Ñ‚Ð�ЩржШржгрзÐ�ржЯрж╛ржмрзÐ�ржпрж╛ржкрзÐ� ржП рж╕ржÐ'ржШржâ–`рзÐ�рж╖рзЗ ржЧрзÐ`ржâ–"ржâ"�ржмржâ"�ржжрзÐ�ржз рж╣ржпржâ•�рзЗ ржоржирзЛржпржâ•�рж╛ржâ–` рж╣рзЛрж╕рзЗржи (рзйрзй) ржирж╛ржорзЗ ржПржХ ржмржâ"�ржПржиржкржâ"� рж╕ржоржâ–`рзÐ�ржержХрж╕рж╣ ржжрзÐ`Ñ‚Ð�ЩржЬржирзЗржâ–` ржорзÐ"рждрзÐ�ржпрзÐ` рж╣ржпржâ•�рзЗржЫрзЗред ржиржâ"�рж╣ржд ржоржирзЛржпржâ•�рж╛ржâ–` ржмржâ"�рж╢рзÐ�ржмржирж╛ржерзЗржâ–` ржâ–"рж╛ржЯржиржЧржâ–` ржЧрзÐ�ржâ–`рж╛ржорзЗржâ–` ржЖржмрзÐ�ржмрж╛рж╕ ржЖржâ–"рзÐ�ржâ–` ржЫрзЗржâ–"рзЗред
> ржЕржкржâ–`ржЬржирзЗржâ–` ржирж╛ржо рж"рж╕ржорж╛ржи ржЖржâ–"рзÐ�ред
> > рждржмрзЗ ржЧрзÐ`ржâ–"ржâ"� ржЪрж╛ржâ–"рж╛ржирзЛржâ–` ржЕржнржâ"�ржпрзЛржЧ ржЕрж╕рзÐ�ржмрзÐ�ржХрж╛ржâ–` ржХржâ–`рзЗ ржкрзÐ`ржâ–"ржâ"�рж╢рзЗржâ–` ржкржХрзÐ�рж╖ ржерзЗржХрзЗ ржмржâ–"рж╛ рж╣ржпржâ•�рзЗржЫрзЗ, ржмржâ"�ржХрзÐ�рж╖рзÐ`ржмрзÐ�ржз ржЬржирждрж╛ржХрзЗ ржЧрзÐ`ржâ–"ржâ"� ржХржâ–`рж╛ржâ–` ржХрзЛржи ржиржâ"�ржâ–`рзÐ�ржжрзЗрж╢ ржЫржâ"�ржâ–"рзЛ ржирж╛ ржЬрзЗржâ–"рж╛ ржкрзÐ`ржâ–"ржâ"�рж╢рзЗржâ–`ред ржкрзÐ`ржâ–"ржâ"�рж╢ ржХрзЗржмржâ–" ржЬржирждрж╛ржХрзЗ рж╕рж╛ржоржâ–"рж╛рждрзЗ ржЯржâ"�ржпржâ•�рж╛ржâ–`рж╢рзЗржâ–" рж" ржлрж╛ржÐ`ржХрж╛
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