Dear Mr. Helal Ahmed Bhai,
You have given a 'to the point answer'. "Somojdar ke liey Isharai Kaafi Hai"
If Pakistan was not formed in 1947, we would not see Bangladesh to-day. It would be another Kashmir.
Dr. Siraj uddowllah, Windsor, Canada.
Helal Ahmed <huahmed
Dear Mr. Syed Aslam:
Salaam. The last thing I wanted in this holy month of Ramadan is writing chain political emails however, I can't blame anyone but myself to drag into it. Pls see my answers below in Bold.
Since when we have a national Khatib?
I said it wrong. Moulana Obaidul Hoque is not national Khatib but the Khatib of Baitul Mokaram Masjid.
Is that a constitutionally mandated post?
No, it is not.
Do we have a National Purohit (!) for the Hindus?
National Monk for Buddist?
or National High Priest for the Christians? .........
No, we do not.
How did Baitul Mukarram became national Mosque?
I'm not sure Baitul Mukarram is national Masjid or not. Pls accept my apology if I said it wrong.
Is there a conflict between Islam and political-secularism?
In Bangladesh political Secularism. As you can see all the bad characters in most of the movies and Daramas belongs to a guy who have CHAGLA Dari and a TUPI in his head. FYI, I already know that not all the Mullah's are good but we can not stereotype all the Tupi Dariwala as a bad guys and of course it always done deliberately to undermine Islam. You can hear from secularist party that "Bangladesh should ban all the religious political parties cause they want to establish Allah's rule (don't get me wrong here, I'm not one of them) however, they can do the same politics on the other hand by being the same extremist that there is no such thing is Allah . And unfortunately, lslamist are not that smart to ask ban of communist parties in a Muslim majority country where most of us follow Islam and accept Allah by heart. I don't think I have to explain elaborately on that issue. As a member of educated forum we all should know better.
Is Bangladesh
No. Bangladesh is democratic state which is much more tolerant than two largest democracies in the world i.e, India USA
As we all know most of the "political Islamist" regret
breakdown of Pakistan
Yes, some political Islamist regret breaking down of Pakistan Pakistan
In today's Bangla vocabulary Rajaker has found a
new meaning ..... Now Rajaker basically means
collaborator with the enemy of the people. The
Rajaker-ideology exist in Bangladesh
fact of life.
On that case AL India Pakistan Pakistan Bangladesh India Bangladesh AL India Bangladesh
But the question is that.. as a nation can we afford to be divided as old and new rajakars and so on. Or should we try to establish a country where all the different motobads can co-exist with each other and try to build a prosperous BD for the next generation where we don't care who is who but a hard working honest person.
I personally never liked AL
Can you explain how "Mr. Motiur Rahman ....saved
the nation from bloodshed" ?
If Mr. Motiur Rahamn didn't back down then Govt had to close down Prothom-alo or face the violent street protest where police or BDR should fire the crowds and it will cause death.
I don't understand why I had to explain to you that. I'm sure you and I will be totally safe form any violence as we won't be there for any street protest against the Prothom-alo editor but some poor madrasa students, or some sentimental persons, or poor street hawkers who have nothing to do with any protest but was there in a wrong time and might ended up taking the bullets.
If so, who are these potential KILLERS?
Pls see above for the answer of this question.
Do they now have a change of heart?
Not fully.. yet. As we know, every body wants to play politics with everything in BD. And some extremist people still want to cash the situation and I hope and pray that Allah have mercy on their soul so that they will embrace peace for the sake of peace and harmony. I sometime wonder, how we, as a follower of Prophet Muhammad(Peace be upon Him), could be so violent.
Oh Yeah, under a pseudo-threat Matiur Rahman has
capitulated .... and that is very regretable. ......
It is regrettable for you but not for me. Again, I thank him for saving some innocent lives. As I mentioned in my previous posting earlier that I wasn't personally offended with the cartoon as I know my Allah and my Prophet well enough. If someone say our prophet was a liar (May Allah forgive me saying that), I would tell him/her that he doesn't know much about Him and should try to learn personally before make any comments. In my life I came across with some folks who laugh about GOD existence but I never ever felt offended as I know what I know. I need to accept GOD in my life for my own good so that I might be able to save myself from hellfire.
By now Motiur Rahman knows he is finished.
He has tarnished his own image, his moral high ground,
his ethical or political parlance.
For some people, he might be finish and for some people he gained more respect. I don't blame you to think that way though. As we all know, in most of the cases, if you do 100 good things to someone he/she might not even remember that BUT if you do one bad thing to them, they will remember that forever. May Allah help myself and all of us in this forum to change our attitude and let be love and peace in our heart.
One life to live .....but a drop of "chona" may spoil.
the whole Jar of Milk......
It is true in some cases but can generalize with all the other scenarios.
Dear Mr. Syed Aslam, I do not wish to continue with this debate in this forum. Pls accept my advance apology if I hurt your feelings by saying anything wrong.
May Allah take hatred away from our soul and filled it with love and forgiveness.
Fi Amanillah.
Helal
Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@
Dear Mr. Helal AhmedSince when we have a national Khatib?Is that a constitutionally mandated post?Do we have a National Purohit (!) for the Hindus?National Monk for Buddist?or National High Priest for the Christians? .........How did Baitul Mukarram became national Mosque?[In name or literarily]Is there a conflict between Islam and political-secularism? Is Bangladesh a theocratic state?As we all know most of the "political Islamist" regretbreakdown of Pakistan till date........In today's Bangla vocabulary Rajaker has found anew meaning ..... Now Rajaker basically meanscollaborator with the enemy of the people. TheRajaker-ideology exist in Bangladesh. It is afact of life.Can you explain how "Mr. Motiur Rahman ....savedthe nation from bloodshed" ?If so, who are these potential KILLERS?Do they now have a change of heart?Oh Yeah, under a pseudo-threat Matiur Rahman hascapitulated .... and that is very regretable. ......By now Motiur Rahman knows he is finished.He has tarnished his own image, his moral high ground,his ethical or political parlance.An individual proves himself by his own actions,and that' s never ending continous process in life.One life to live .....but a drop of "chona" may spoil.the whole Jar of Milk......Syed Aslam
On 9/25/07, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com > wrote:Dear Reza bhai:Salaam. I didn't know that our national Khatib was a Rajakar. Or he is Razkar just because he is not a AL supporter or a secular person. May be in the future we will hear that Mr. Motuir Rahman is also a Rajakar.Anyhow, i'm not sure why you guys are all angry to Mr. Motiur Rahman when he saved the nation from bloodshed. I also can't believe all the negative postings against Mr. Motiur Rahman for his ONE actions while he have thousand other actions in favor of you all.We all seem to forget that this is the holy month of blessing. For the sake of Allah, we all should try to be peace loving and forgiving at least for this month.May Allah accept our fasting and bless us all.
By asking apology to Rajakars Mr Motiur Rahman has
proved that he is a Man of Sujigher abhave vodro lok.
a real great Dalal and a dengerous man. First time he
cought. Chorrer dash din, grehaster ek din.
Mr Moti is really an institution to educate dalali.
--- adam_muntasir <adam_muntasir@yahoo.com > wrote:
> dhormyo beper gulu khubi sensitive!!
> moja kora valo, tobe kono mojakei shima longhon
> korte nei.
> joke jatyo bepar gulu manushke anondo diye thake.
> tai bole, dhormyo kinba rajnoitik vabe cartoon, joke
> lekha
> shotti-i biporjoy deke ane.
>
> jotodur, bujhte parsi, prothom alo potrikate ekta
> shadharon
> cartoon, (ja oneker chokh faki diye eriye jabar moto
> bepar) i
> boro dhoroner shomoshya korese.
>
> amra jara likhalikhi kori, tara o, nijer ojante emon
> shob kisu likhe
> feli, ja onner chokhe shanghatik koshter bepar hoye
> daray.
>
> prithibir protiti ghotona thekei shikkhonyo kisu
> theke thake.
> Mr. Moti(prothom alo) theke, amader budho hoy ekti
> bepeari shikkhonyo
> hoye thakbe, ta holo, choto kuno beparkeo tuccho
> kore dekha uchit
> noy.
>
> potrika shompadok shoho, jara bishesh gurutto-purno
> pode obosthan
> korsen, tader shobari shotorko purno vabei dayitto
> palon kora uchit.
>
> prothom alo jodi ekti prothom srenir potrikai hoye
> thake,
> tahole, Mr. moti (or, cartoon bivager responsible
> person)er
> bepargulu agei bichar bisleshon kore publish kora
> uchit chilo.
> publish korar moto khaddoy jodi na thake blank
> publish kora onek
> valo.
> (dushto gorurr chaite, shunno goal onek valo).
>
> Adam Muntasir
>
>
>
> --- In chottala@yahoogroups.com , dina khan
> <dina30_khan@...> wrote:
> >
> > Situation proof that it needs to provide nation
> wide quality
> education for educating the people with quality
> knowledge..
> >
> > There is nothing for calling shame if any body
> asks apology for
> his faults.
> > By asking apology Mr Motiur Rahman has proved
> that he is a
> really great man quality educated understanding
> consider minded
> person.
> >
> > Mr Moti is really an institution & the
> inspiration for the
> media people of Bangladesh to realize for
> controlling the
> situation & for creating good atmosphere in the
> country.
> >
> > Now country needs people like Mr Motiur Rahman
> who can try to
> understand their faults & try to rectify their
> faults like Mr Motiur
> Rahman to create knowledge atmosphere in the
> country to understand
> the real problems & can solve the real problems
> wisely..
> > Human being is the greatest creation of Al
> mighty Allah. Between
> human & other creation only difference is that human
> have the
> knowledge of understanding to understand which is
> wrong or right &
> have the capability for being knowledged person can
> ask apology to
> rectify their faults for maintaing peaceful
> society & creating
> good atmosthere which can not be done by the other
> creatures.
> > Mr Moti has done it wisely. He is an wise editor
> of prothom-
> alo which is surely playing a role to enlighten
> the society.
> >
> > Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Moti Bhai
> >
> > I say :
> > Shame
> > shame
> > shame
> > shame
> >
> > Shame
> > shame
> > shame
> > shame on
> you.................. ......... ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------- --------- ---
> >
> >
> >
> > Shame
> > shame
> > shame
> > shame on
> you.................. ......... ...
> >
> > Syed Aslam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Send instant messages to your online friends
> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
> >
> >
> > Send instant messages to your online friends
> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
>
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