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Sunday, March 27, 2011

Re: [chottala.com] Re: To our respected Teachers!

Respected Teahers are needed to be honest in speaking teaching and writing.
Respected Teachers are needed to be sincere in learnig and knowing the truth for making knowlege learning resouces for the nation.

--- On Sun, 27/3/11, Tariq Matin <emailad4tariq@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Tariq Matin <emailad4tariq@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Re: To our respected Teachers!
> To: "chottala@yahoogroups.com" <chottala@yahoogroups.com>
> Received: Sunday, 27 March, 2011, 9:13 PM
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> Mannan Bhai,I agree with
> everything you have said.There are crooks in both
> Awami League and BNP. However my conscience tells me that I
> should unquestionably support a pro liberation force against
> an Anti liberation one. I believe supporting BNP is against
> the very foundation of our existence.Zia founded
> BNP by destroying the ideologies and the spirit of 1971. He
> also rehabilitated the anti liberation
> forces. I do not have the language to
> condemn the misdeeds of Zia and his accomplices. The damage
> the Zia and the defeated quarter has inflicted on Bangladesh
> is irreparable.I have tremendous respect for the
> Bongobondhu.However, I will not blindly say that
> he was not the perfect leader. Some of the blames for the
> success of Zia to topple him goes to the Bongobondhu as
> well. He failed to comprehend the importance of safeguarding
> himself from the assassins. Even though he meant well for
> us, his Bakshal was not the right approach.We can
> go on and on. The bottom line is there were lack of
> foresights from the Awami think-tanks.I see
> similar lack of foresight on Hasina's
> part.Otherwise why is she letting so many non
> issues become issues instead of focussing on Nation building
> etc?Each time she does that the BNP as an
> alternative choice looks better and better to the
> voters.Why did she let the Yunus issue go this
> far?Why are most of the crooks from the major
> parties out of the jail despite sentences and clear proof of
> corruption against them?List goes on and
> on.And last but not least can we afford another
> BNP rule?I shudder at the thought of Tareq Zia
> and his nexus coming back to rule Bangladesh and distort the
> history with their lies.
> Tariq Matin
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 24, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
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> To my friends well wishers and  others.
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> I never subscribed to JSD politics and was never a follower
> of AL politics blindly. I try to be objective as far as
> possible. May be I am a bit biased towards the politics of
> AL as I cannot be with any politics of BNP for obvious
> reasons.  I also have many critics in AL who thinks I
> should not speak some truths so bluntly they do not like.
> Now for the trial of Col. Taher. His deeds on 7th. November
> was not under trial but his trial was. The trial of Col.
> Taher was a miscarriage of justice and absolutely non
> transparent. I expect to write on this. Even the trial of
> killing of Zia was to some extent more transparent though
> many wrong people were tried (it included quite a few of my
> childhood friends). I never supported his deeds on 7th.
> November and I will say so.
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> Many wishes of our Independence day.
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> Have a nice day.
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> Mannan
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> 2011 at 10:03 AM, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com>
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> Dear Mr.
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> Assalamualaikum.
> Thanks for your
> response towards my posting. In my 40 years of life I
> didn’t see many Bangladeshis with good political
> consciousness. We are overly biased with our political
> ideology. No matter how educated we are, we simply
> can’t go beyond our loyalty towards the preferred
> party/ideology.
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> With no offence to
> Manna sir and all the respected teacher’s in these
> forums, in our student life, we observed how teachers
> (mostly who thought in the public universities in
> Bangladesh) are busy
> aligning themselves among Shada, Neel, Holud and Golapi
> panels. We also observed how the best student can’t
> become a teacher if he/she doesn’t get the blessing
> from those color coded panels. Contrary, how ordinary
> student become a teacher with the help of same color coded
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> to mention that it is our Sir’s who polluted the
> student politics and used us (students) to become the leader
> of the above mentioned colored coded panels and the ultimate
> price is becoming VC. Now days, some of them do politics in
> the public university and teaches in the private
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> also acknowledged, there are still teachers’ left who
> does genuinely teaching job. That’s why we still have
> institution like BUET and IBA to name a few.
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> can’t teacher be involved in politics! Of course they
> can. But they can’t encourage students to be a part
> of it and should leave it out side the institution, at least
> to some extent.
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> Helal
> Toronto,
> Canada.
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> PS: I request all
> the respected teacher’s in these forums to not to
> take my writing personally. And I hope my writing is not
> towards them as they don’t fall into the
> teacher’s category I mentione above. As I said, there
> are many honorable teachers’ in Bangladesh, who is keeping
> the teaching profession with minimal financial compensation.
> And some of them still help their student to become
> extraordinary human being. We still visited them and touched
> their feet out of outmost respect because they deserve it.
> Whenever I go home, I make sure to visit few of my teachers
> who taught me throughout my life to be a better human being.
> Not necessarily, to be the best student. One of them
> is Samar Kanti Chowdhury sir, who thought be from Grade 1
> to 6. I wish all the teacher’s in Bangladesh is just like
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> On Wed, 3/23/11, abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com>
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> From: abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Re:
> [KHABOR] Verdict of Col. Taher Case.
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> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com,
> abid.bahar@gmail.com,
> Ovimot@yahoogroups.com,
> faruquealamgir@gmail.com,
> farhadmazhar@hotmail.com,
> farid2002hossain@hotmail.com,
> notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com,
> modzaman@gmail.com
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> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 7:26 PM
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> Hasina Fooling People with the Rule of Law
> Abid Bahar
> Professor Mannan is a very enlightened person but at
> the same time I read him in his work that he is an overly
> enthuasistic pro AL person as well. He is an honorable
> person. I don't think I am qualified to say anything to
> increase his enlightenment about Bangladesh politics but I
> want to say one thing to help him understand about his
> enthuasism that with the AL appointed judges some
> of whom were vendals and one was a murder accused, the
> judgement about Taher who was the killer of many innocent
> army offices for implimenting his vision of a
> the then Chinese style sepoy army, Hasina's is
> clearly politically motivated. In this judgement there is
> nothing to celebrate unless you are a hardcore Awami Leaguer
> enthusiast.
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> Additionally, it says what is legal is not always
> moral. Example: If the fascist leader Sadam made laws, or
> Gaddafi or Mujib with their one party rule, made
> laws, in Mujib's case when the elected
> Mujib denying the people's mandate made laws to
> supress the opposition installed one party rule, killing the
> opposition with his High Court laws, or killing
> Siraj Sikdar without laws and boosting about it,  it
> was simply a betrayal with the people who voted him to
> power. In the end such leaders as was Saddam with his two
> children were killed by the invasion forces, Mujib with his
> two children were killed by Bangladesh army and another
> dictator Gadafi calling himself as a revolutionary stays in
> power for decades now killing his countryman with the same
> fascist rule of law and who knows what awaits for him as
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> In Hasina's case keeping Mahmudur Rahman, the
> editor of a newspaper in jail by Hasina's
> court was legal but abusing power through courts was
> neither democratic nor moral. True, politicians
> and their enthuasiasts are fooling and ruling people with
> the excuse of rule of law- is a village headman style
> politics brought to the city to convince some already
> enlightened people fighting against dictators and fascist
> regimes worldwide.
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> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com>
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> Manna Sir:
> Assalamualaikum.
> Thanks for sharing your comment on High courts verdict on
> Taher killing.
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> in the last few weeks there were many email circling around
> regarding this matter. I also posted a thread few days back.
> I would be honored to hear your feedback in regards of my
> below statement:
> “Assalamua'laikum.
> Ok, for the sake of argument, I accept your notion that
> Ziaur Rahman was a cold blooded murderer for killing Col
> Taher. Then, do you also accept that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
> was also a cold blooded murderer for killing Siraj Sikdar! I
> hope you must read or remember when Bongbondhu proclaimed,
> where is Siraj Sikdar after he was assassinated.�
> I’m really
> looking fwd to have a knowledgeable discussion with you
> regarding the hypocrisy in our today’s society when
> it comes to discussing Mujib/Zia, India/Pakistan, Tarek/Joy,
> and so on.
> Sir, I
> can assume how busy your life is however, your response is
> much appreciated.
> Helal
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> --- On Tue, 3/22/11, Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
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> From: Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
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> Subject: [KHABOR] Verdict of Col. Taher Case.
> To: khabor@yahoogroups.com,
> alapon@yahoogroups.com,
> chottala@yahoogroups.com,
> "Miro Jangi" <mjangi@yahoo.com>,
> Diagnose@yahoogroups.com,
> "shahid mahmud" <shahid6609@yahoo.com>,
> "sultan chowdhury" <chottalasultan@yahoo.com>,
> "Saad Andaleeb" <saadandaleeb@gmail.com>
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> Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 3:21 AM
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> High Court has given a verdict that the hanging of
> Col. Taher by Gen. Zia was a cold blooded murder and the
> lone person responsible for it was General Zia. The Court
> also ruled that Zia was also directly  involved in the
> killing of Bangabandhu Sk. Mujib.
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