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Saturday, March 12, 2011

Re: [chottala.com] How many killed in the Liberation war

Liberation war in 1971 was done to libarate Bangladesh for establishing justice of humanity justice of socio-economy under lawful good administration in the system of lawful democracy.
Now the question is ?
Why did not still in Bangladesh establish justice of humanity justice of socio-economy under lawful honest administration in the system of lawful democracy?
Why did not still correctly enlist the names of 30 millions people who were killed by Pakistan 9 months liberation war in 1971 on what basis it was declared?
Why did not still help those aliving family members whose family lost their family members killing by Pakistan Army during 9 month war in 1971?
Is it not the moral duty of Bangladesh Administration for honest searching to find out the names and enlist the names and their addresses of 30 millions people who were killed in 1971 war?
Why is neglecing the present administration to do this great duty for finding the name and address of 30 millions people who were killed by Pakistan Army in 1971 during 9 month war?
Otherwise future generation may think it was false news actually there was not held any war between Pakistan and Bangladesh but actual was held between India & Pakistan After wining India capuring East Pakistan did not take this regions under directly Indian administration but named this region as Bangladesh to be rulled by the people who obey the India administration instruction and make people third class condition.

--- On Sat, 12/3/11, Em Pannah <epannah@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Em Pannah <epannah@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] How many killed in the Liberation war
> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com, "md. saiful KHAN" <saifakhan01@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Em Pannah" <empannah@hotmail.com>
> Received: Saturday, 12 March, 2011, 11:16 PM
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> Dear Readers,
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> This is a serious issue
> indeed. Everybody knows it as 3 million; does anybody
> have any acceptable proof that it is really 3 lacs (and not
> 3 million).
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> With best
> regards,
> Dr. Emarat Hossain
> Pannah
> (A living
> freedom-fighter from 11 sector - now living in USA since
> 1990)
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> --- On Fri, 3/11/11, Sirajul Haider
> <sirajulhaider@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: Sirajul Haider <sirajulhaider@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [chottala.com] How many killed in Liberation war:
> How 3 lacs became 30 lacs after 10 March 1972
> To: chottala@yahoogroups.com, "md. saiful KHAN"
> <saifakhan01@gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 9:59 AM
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> Dear Mr Helal,
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> I really appreciate your courageous declaration of the
> fact that the death of 30 lacs was very much exaggerated.
> You said that it was slip of tongue of Shaikh Mujib but the
> truth is it was not a slip of tongue by Sk Mujib since to
> his said it 3 million thinking 1 million= 1 lac, he did
> not know that 1 million is actually 10 lacs. When Sk Mujib
> said 3 million of death to foreign journalists to indicate
> actually 3 lacs 1 lac then 1 minister wanted
> correct him but other minister said since bongobondhu
> already uttered 3 million so no need to correct him since
> same will high light his poor knowledge numerology
> terms.   So from that 3 lacs became 3 millions= 30
> lacks. Many people know this but  no one dares to speak
> out, if you say this then you will be termed a
> rajakar.
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> Siraj
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> saiful KHAN
> <saifakhan01@gmail.com>
> Cc: Khabor
> Dot Com <info@khabor.com>; Abba
> <hussain7192@rogers.com>; khabor@yahoogroups.com;
> chottala@yahoogroups.com; Nuran Nabi
> <nurannabi@gmail.com>; Mohammad Haque
> <ashraful_00@yahoo.com>; mr mahmud
> <mrmahmud71@yahoo.com>; Mohammed Sharfuddin
> <sharfuddinbd@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Friday,
> 11 March 2011 00:32:33
> Subject:
> [chottala.com] Re: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila
> Bose's book event on March 15th
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> Dear Dr. Saiful
> khan:
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> Assalamualikum.
> Thank you for your response regarding my posting. You
> didn’t hurt my feelings
> as what you have said is nothing wrong from your point of
> view. And that's what civic people do to communicate
> with one another. I'm humbled to even communicate to a
> person like you or Dr. Nuran Nabi and many others in these
> forums who are way educated and accomplished than me. I take
> your criticism as a learning tool for being shaped as a
> mature human being.
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> As I mentioned
> earlier, I have outmost respect for the Freedom fighter on
> 1971. But I’m not sure,
> I can say the same thing about the honorable living Freedom
> fighters in 2011. I also expressed the similar feelings to
> my Father-in-law after seeing
> Felani’s hanging dead
> body on the wired fence.
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> You and I are
> extremely fortunate that we do not leave along the
> Bangladesh-India border fence. Imagine you daughter or
> sister killed like that hanged for hours. God forbid,
> that’s
> shouldn’t happen to any
> of us or even to our ill seekers.
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> I do not think I
> made the false accusation regarding the living Freedom
> fighters being mum with all the injustice Bangladesh is receiving over
> the last 39 years. Some of their inaction is louder than my
> word. However, you have all the rights to disagree with my
> assertion and I ask all the living Freedom
> fighter’s forgiveness
> for being ungrateful.
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> Your generation
> saw Pakistan as oppressor and
> you spoke loud about it as that was the right thing to do.
> Our generation is seeing India as the oppressor,
> and we are speaking about it. I do not have any hurt feeling
> towards the Indian people but the Indian authority who is
> humiliating us periodically. Well, I do not solely blame
> Indian authority either, but us, as we are the one who is
> letting them to dictate our lives by being divided and
> weak.
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> Dear Ms Farah and
> Mr.Anis:
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> Assalamualikum.
> Thanks for your response as well. I hope we realize that by
> being hateful to each others, we are completely destroying
> the future of Bangladesh. The sooner we
> realize it the better it is for us. We are a country of
> numerous prospects and our neighbors like India and China leading the way
> to be prosperous nations. All we have to do is just learn
> from them, how to be united when it come to national issues.
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> The other thing is
> haunting me is very sensitive to talk about.
> Ok,
> let’s talk about it, as
> most of us in these forums are well-informed and may have
> the courage to discuss something enormously
> sensitive.
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> War Criminals:
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> We all want
> justice for the Pakistani Collaborators who slaughters
> innocent Bangalee’s
> ruthlessly. Then how about the justice for innocent
> Bihari’s who were also
> slaughtered by
> Bangalee’s! Why, no one
> is seeking justice for all the murders!
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> If
> I’m a JUST person,
> then, I should be JUST to all. Not, only to my family,
> friends, and well wishers. Right!!
> Yes, there is no
> doubt in my mind that
> Bangalee’s were
> slaughtered thousands time more than
> Bihari’s by brutal
> Pakistani army and their Bangalee collaborators.
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> FYI,
> I’m not a Bihari origin
> but a Bangladeshi from both parental sides.
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> Thanks everyone
> for reading this long mail. And pls accept my sincerely
> apology if this mail hurt you in any way. As I said above,
> you have all the rights to disagree with whatever I said and
> allow me to understand if I got it all wrong.
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> Helal
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> --- On Thu, 3/10/11, md. saiful KHAN
> <saifakhan01@gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: md. saiful KHAN <saifakhan01@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's
> book event on March 15th
> To: alapon@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: "Helal Ahmed" <huahmed@yahoo.com>,
> "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>,
> "Abba" <hussain7192@rogers.com>,
> khabor@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com,
> "Nuran Nabi" <nurannabi@gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 2:36 AM
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> Dear Bhai Helal CC Dean Dr. Nurun
> Nabi
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> I have read your email letter to Dr. Nurun Nabi.
> We are proud of your father in law and father as we are
> proud of Dean Dr. Nurun Nabi.
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> Your assertion " What i don't
> understand is that in this forum, i do not see you or any
> other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or thousands of
> innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian border
> force" makes it clear that you have no real respect
> for the most invaluable contribution of our freedom
> fighters  of Bangladesh including your
> father or father in law.
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> How can you raise such an allegation like this ?
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> In one life time fighting or taking part in one freedom
> struggle or war of liberation is the most commemdable part
> of valour or patriotism.
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> Have you or I or most of our countrymen fought or got the
> chance to take part in a glorious war of
> emancipation?
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> Let us all be measured and balanced in our evaluation.
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> Please do not feel hurt by this comment of mine.
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> Dr. Md. Saiful Amin Khan
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> Retired Ambassador and Permanent Secretary of Bangladesh
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> London
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> On 9 March 2011
> 21:23, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> Assalamualikum
> Dear Dr. Nuran Nabi.
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> My
> name is Helal Ahmed and i born in 1970.
> I’m very proud of you
> as a living Freedom fighter as
> I’m proud of my
> Father-in-law and late father. You and my Father-in-law
> faced the bullet in the forefront and my late father
> fought the war in a different way. I wish I was born at that
> time to do the same. I understand your sentiment towards
> 1971.
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> What i don't
> understand is that in this forum, i do not see you or any
> other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or thousands of
> innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian border
> force.
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> guess you and some of the Freedom fighters fought the war
> against Pakistan not for
> Bangladesh. If you fought
> for Bangladesh, than i should
> have seen your anger against the Felani killer just the way
> you showed your anger towards Pakistani
> murderers.
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> Also, in our 1971
> war, 3 million people
> didn’t die. The
> mentioned number was a slip of tongue by Bongobondhu. And
> people are Bangladesh
> can’t even talk about
> it as they might be labeled as Razakar. For the sake of new
> generation, it is your duty to tell the
> truth.
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> Pls
> accept my sincere apology if I hurt you with this mail. As a
> generation after 1970,
> I’m just tired of
> seeing Bangladeshis keep talking about old enemy and being
> mum of new enemy.
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> FYI, as you are, I
> also want the trial of 1971 war criminals. But I
> don’t think our
> neighboring country want this issue to be resolved as this
> the only way to keep Bangladesh divided and let
> us in fighting. See, people like you and me, living in
> different countries, from completely different generations,
> still wasting our time to argue over something which should
> have been solved 40 years ago.
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> I’m
> very much in doubt that current AL government will
> complete the trial. After the five long years, they will say
> they have to come back to power again to finish the
> trial.
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> Thanks in advance
> for your understanding.
>  
> Helal
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> --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book
> event on March 15th
> To: alapon@yahoogroups.com,
> "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>
> Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:42 PM
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> I would appreciate if you post this in your group
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM
> Subject: Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on
> March 15th
> To: mike.vandusen@wilsoncenter.org
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> Mr. Mike Van Dusen
> Executive Vice President of the Woodrow Wilson
> Center for
> Internatio​nal
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> Dear Mr. Van Dusen,
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> It is with great dismay I tell you that you
> have organized an event with a controversial writer Sarmila
> Bose in the month of March which is the
> 40th  anniversary of the beginning of Bangladesh
> genocide 1971 where 3 million people were killed, 200
> thousand women were raped, 10 million people were forced to
> become refugees to lead a sub-human life during 9 months of
> the war..
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> These crimes against humanity are well documented
> including a book by USA Consul General in Dhaka Late Mr.
> Archer Blood and a report by Late Senator Edward
> Kennedy.
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> Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15  is
> an insult to the victims of Bangladesh genocide.
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> I am a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh liberation war
> and a witness to the crimes against humanity perpetrated by
> the Pakistani military and their Bengali
> collaborators.  I have written several books on
> Bangladesh liberation war. My latest book Bullets of
> '71- A Freedom Fighter's Story describes Bangladesh
> genocide committed by the Bangladesh war criminals. (See my
> website www.nurannabi.com to
> know more about Bangladesh genocide )
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> After 40 years, trial of the Bangladesh war
> criminals just has started. Since then Bangladesh war
> criminals and their supporters have started orchestrated
> campaign to misinform and mislead the world opinion
> regarding the extent of Bangladesh genocide. Sarmila Bose is
> a part of that grand scheme.
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> Sarmila Bose and others are promoting
> their hidden agenda in a very subtle way to
> protect the Bangladesh war criminals. Its irony that she is
> using organization like Woodrow Wilson Center in the USA
> capital to misguide the opinion maker.
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> You must stop this event which is a heinous design
> of the Bangladesh war criminals. You should allow to let
> people know the truth about Bangladesh war crimes which Ms
> Bose is trying to hide and protect the war
> criminals.
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> I am walling to present evidence for the crimes
> against humanity in Bangladesh in 1971 perpetrated by
> Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators based on
> my new book.
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> I would appreciate if you invite me to the event to
> counter Ms. Bose's misleading conclusion and allow
> me tell the truth to the audience. 
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> Looking forward to hearing from you.
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> Regards,
> Nuran Nabi, PhD
> Councilman of Plainsboro Township, NJ
> and a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh Liberation
> war
> Tel: 609 529 5065
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