Mr. Syed Islam "In any process, social-political or natural world, if you
want a change the whole, you have to start from the parts that makes the whole." It is not incorrect. Your thought is correct "Think Global, Act locally". I don't know where are you living now what's your present nationality. If you are living in Bangladesh it is well known to you what the actual social-political situation in Bangladesh. Do you find in Bangladesh any self depended political leader or political party without the support in the fields of ideological socio-political & economical fields from out side for thinking locally for doing work locally being independent to the interest for the people of Bangladesh? Are the political leaders locally insentient? Are not the people divided by political leaders & political party with the ijisam & so called ideology which has out side or Global relation? Is it not true? If it is true How can you Act locally? Before starting locally you need preparation to get understanding & acting skilled man power who can do work with own ideology being self depended to thinking for making own policy & on working according to own policy in the field of social political & economical fields under the leadership possessing the quality of ideological principle feeling in own nationalism, socialism, humanitarism for the people of Bangladesh. Bangladesh is a thickly populated & the world poorest country. The political leaders of Bangladesh are not able to face the people's problems are not able to solve the problems of Bangladesh. As because the leaders of Bangladesh are not well quality knowledge educated to be efficient for making policy & guide lines rule the country & to lead the people, The people of Bangladesh are not skilled educated due to there is no any lawful good administration & there is no any good knowledge education system in Bangladesh for learning for knowing what needs to learn what needs to do for being skilled work persons to perform their work duty.. So Bangladesh is now required to introduce nation wide a system of quality knowledge education to provide all category people for making them in their work fields as quality work persons such as quality knowledge educated politicians quality knowledge educated good administrators quality knowledge educated good teachers good lawyers & quality knowledge work persons. Such as quality knowledge education of 1) Moral education for making honest personal life for honest conjugal life & for good family 2) For building social & economical development education are needed of 3) Education of technical & moderns science education 4) Education of agriculture fishing wood cutting & trees planting 5) Education of mechanics maintenance works house making road making ship boat making transport making cal bill river digging. & constructing 6) Education of cooking house hold working business & other home industry 7) Education of poultry cow & other animals 8) Education of road code traffic rules & transport systems & cleaning 9) Education for knowing & utilizing the resources available in Bangladesh 10) Education of health hygienic & sanitation 11) Social education of child disable & helpless people caring 12) Knowledge education for creating the leaders teachers administrators lawyers & other leading people people who can make environment good politic good policy & good guide lines to rule the country & to guide the people efficiently.
--- On Sun, 4/10/09, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Dina Khan, Think Global, Act Locally !!!!!!!. To: chottala@yahoogroups.com Received: Sunday, 4 October, 2009, 11:36 PM
Ms. Dina Khan In any process, social-political or natural world, if you want a change the whole, you have to start from the parts that makes the whole. The bottom-up approach works much better than Top-down approach ... We need to clean our house first before we criticise others for their dirts. We should not try to hide our "garbages" on verious pretexts. We can't justify our wrong doings, communalism, and evils within us through innuendoes because some evil exists somewhere else. We can always think globally [whole], but we always have to work locally first in our own home turf.: Bangladesh should set an example by creating a truly non-communal society [justice of law for humanity & human right to all people not being communal minded , in your language] where there is no second class citizen. ... Syed Aslam Mr Syed Aslam ... If you want real charity it needs to think as a whole. It is better try to understand What the actual reasons behind that for are happening such types of tragedy in India Bashkali & other places? If you want real charity it needs to think as a whole. It is also better to ask them & advise them who are thinking themselves as political leaders as political activists as media activists as human right activists as social workers as author & as news writers of news pagers & for media editors of news papers to be free minded honest thoughtful persons for thinking neutrally all people as human being one nation to write & to speak for all to establishing good administration under the system of lawful democracy at justice of law for humanity & human right to all people not being communal minded not creating communal feeling not creating classification among the people being selfish for earning something . From:Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Ms Dina Khan, Portraying Bashkali Tragedy as mere "Ddacoity" is still questionable ! To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com Received: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 8:08 PM
Portraying Bashkali Tragedy as mere "Ddacoity" is still questionable ! Ms Dina Khan You diverting from the issue under discussion [your business as usual] The topic was the ramnants of communalism that exist even today in various pockets of Bangladesh, where minorities "soft targets" . The communalism in India or other countries are beyond the scope of current discussion. Your comment about Islam as a religion is well understood. But, question is how come Bangladesh being a land of the Musulmans, all kinds of criminal activities and law & order problems premeates the country? Islamic sounding rethorics and "superiority" of Islam do not prevent the criminals to continue with their henious activities in our Bangladesh.. ... You have been wrongly accusing Mr. Shymal Datta on issues in India. The meeting under discussion was arrainged by DORP not by Mr. Shymal Datta. Many others including the Deputy Speaker of Bangladesh Parliament, Mr. Shawkat Ali, emphasized that proclaiming a particular religion as the State Religion undermines other religions in the country Mr. Shayamol Dutta mentioned that in 1947-division was based on communalism ....that communalism created divisions among the people, the minorities (religious) have become aliens in their own land ......the ramnants of communalism still exist .... The puputrators of the criminals behind Banshkhali Taagedy, the so-called docoits, are not punished because of heavy handedness by some politically connected people. To many reputed commentator "the reason put forward for Banskhali massacre as something related to dacoity is far from convincing. " According to the lone surviving member of the victim-family Bimol Sheel, the criminals are now roaming freely & openly ... There should be no denying of the reality that although Bangladesh is a "moderate muslim country" communalism in various pockets in the country still exists where hindus are soft targets of the criminals. Even Madam Khaleda Zia just yesterday in her speech at Sirajgong, mentioned that "the AL is frequently speaking about secularism "but the party men are grabbing property, houses and lands of Hindu community and unleashed repression on them." This indicates that ramnants of communalism do exist accross party lines in our country and Mr. Shymal Datta's and other speakers' concerns at the DORP seminar are genuine. For sure, the communal violences in India or any other country must be condemned, but that should be done in a different thread, not while discussing Banshkhali Tragedy or any other communal incidents at home. No matter how small it is, communalism at home can not justified by any pretext, whatsoever. The communal attitude of all sorts at home must be totally abhorred and condemned, not condoned. Just like charity, the total eradication of communal attitude should also start at home. We should not try to put our "dirts" under the rugs .....As a nation we must establish "Zero Tolerance" on all sorts of communalism: hidden or open. PS: Bringing Norendra Modi and Guzrat riots & communal trends in India while discussing the conference arranged by DORP is out and out an outcome of communal attitude.. Mr. Shymal Datta may be right, Mr. Shymal Datta may be wrong ... but neither himself nor the Hindus in Bangladesh bear any responsibility for communal violences in India [East Punjab Kashmir Gujrat Assam etc]. Dear Mr Aslam, Islam does not create communal feeling. Islam does not create any feeling to hate any body. Islam does not create any classification among the people as upper class or as lower class people. Islam is for justice of humanity & human right considering all human being as one human nation under the umbrella of loving peaceful family. Islam teaches the people to build successful personal life for loving married couple for building happy loving peaceful family which can help for building secure society for peaceful nation & peaceful world. Islam is religion for loving people for helping people not for burning people or not looting other's property not for doing any injustice to any body. Bangladeshi lower class Hindus (Upper Class gone India) are not insecure in Bangladesh. Causes Bangladeshi Muslims are not communal minded at all. Causes Islam does not allow it. But Indian upper class Hindus are very sensitive minded & communal. Indian Muslims along other minority community & lower class Hindus are not secure in India. When Bangladeshi (lower) Hindus raise any question against the Muslim community in Bangladesh they should remember that they are better secured in Bangladesh than Indian Muslims & lower class Hindus. They should ask the Indian Government administration for taking lawful legal action against the communal activities done by upper class Hindu activists against the minority people in India & unlawfully killing & burning Muslims people in Kashmir Gujarat Assam & other places in India. Indian politician's policy is mainly responsible for. Creating riot & killing people in India & later Bangladesh. Mr. Shymal Datta as an editor of Bhorer Khagag neutrally can write in the editorial Coolum for establishing humanity & human right in India considering the people as human nation not considering the people as minority or lower or upper caste people. The reason of all problems is that there is no lawful good administration at any where in Bangladesh India & Pakistan to establishing justice for humanity & human right under the system of lawful democracy. At some part of India such as East Punjab Kashmir Gujrat Assam & other places are being ruled by army controlled & army helped administration under system of so called democracy... In Pakistan it is seen that there all administrations are under Army control. In Bangladesh it is better known to you than me, so How can you hope punishment to any Dacoit? After 1/11 How many dacoits & chandabaj were arrested? Did you not read the news during the CTG Administration in Bangladesh? Are they not released with out punishment? Is it called lawful Administration or Justice of Democracy in Bangladesh? Did you not read the speech of Mr. Jalil the EX GS & present Advisor of BAL? Can you tell that Bangladesh is being ruled under lawful administration for establishing justice for humanity & human right? What situations in India & Pakistan are? Are the media people in Bangladesh or in India or in Pakistan writing or speaking any against inhuman activities without being communal to establishing humanity & human right for justice of law or for lawful democracy? To solve of all problems i) People specially the political leaders & the administrators in administrations are needed to be quality educated persons in learning to know what the real problems of the people & to learn how can be solved their problems by establishing lawful justice under lawful Administration for justice & do ii) Media people can be honest sincere in circulating correct news without creating any problem news by creating false news or by creating communal feeling & situations. iii) The lawful system of lawful democracy can create lawful honest politicians & lawful media iv) The lawful politicians can establish lawful administration for ruling the country in lawfully in doing trial against all criminal activities to establish social justice. v) It needs for the leaders of the country to think positively for creating educated quality people nation wide quality education are needed to provide to all category people at least minimum standard for educating them as quality understanding persons for building quality nation. The administration leaded by dacoit administrators under the dacoit politicians can never be done lawful trial against any dacoit for justice & quality educated people not also be created. --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com> wrote: From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ chottala.com] Attention Ms Dina Khan, if Bashkali Tragedy was dacoity, why the criminals are not punished yet ? To: chottala@yahoogroup s.comReceived: Friday, 25 September, 2009, 8:50 AM If Bashkali Tragedy was dacoity, why the criminals are not punished yet ? Is there a cover-up by some powerful people? WRT: Ms Dina Khan What are you talking about .......? Do you still have questions in your mind that Hindus in Bangladesh are a minority religious group? Is not Islam a distinctly different religion than that of Hinduism? Have a reality check .... Today's Bangladesh has a constitutionally declared State Religion which is Islam...As such, the Hindus may be deemed as second class citizens, according to many ... Just because there is no seperate electorate for the Hindus and the Muslims both in India and in Bangladesh does not mean that communalism and persecution of religious minorities is totally absent. The communalism thrieves on social backwardness, fanaticism, and narrow vested secterian interest, sometimes political interest. Please read the news item on the seminar organized by DORP again: before you continue to give further twist on the issue under discussion. My point was "Mr. Siraj uddowllah brought Gujrat Incident out of context which definitely had a communal undertone. On the Bashkhali Tragedy your mentor Mr. Siraj uddowllah has every right to pass his opinion & present his points of views "as a human right activist" However, the seminar in question presented a different perspective. It was organized by Developmental Organization of the Rural Poor [DORP]. The Deputy Speaker of Bangladesh Parliament, Mr. Shawkat Ali, emphasized that proclaiming a particular religion as the State Religion undermines other religions in the country. According to the news item, Mr. Shayamol Dutta was only a key note speaker, who mentioned that in 1947-division was based on communalism ....that communalism created divisions among the people, the minorities (religious) have become aliens in their own land ......the ramnants of communalism still exist .... The other speakers also expressed their concerns on the disturbance of communal harmony in our country. As we all know, the culprits of the Bashkhali killings has not yet been punished. According to the lone surviving member of the victim-family Bimol Sheel, the criminals are now roaming freely ... Is there a cover-up attempt to hide the crime? Why? If Bashkali Tragedy was a dacoity case, why the criminals are not punished yet ? Is there some "powerful people" behind the docoity? Should not these criminals be given examplary punishment for burning 11 people to death? Six years have already passed..... I still wonder why Mr. Shayamol Dutta is being singled out by yourself [Ms Dina Khan] and Mr. Siraj uddowllah for arranging the conference, although the conference was arranged by an organization called Developmental Organization of the Rural Poor [DORP]. Again, Ms Dina Khan you are saying: "Mr Aslam Are you acting for cmmunal Raw? " Can you explain you statement and tell us how do relate your hypothesis with the issue under discussion. Is that the only "LOGIC" you have? Syed Aslam Attention Mr. Syed Aslam You are forgetting the root of the point. Why the Hindus are being called the minority people in Bangladesh?? Is not Bangladesh a country of secular democracy? Are the Hindus in Bangladesh casting their votes separately as minority people? & Have they separate administration in Bangladesh as minority?? Why the Muslims in India are being called the minority people in India? Is not India a democratic Secular country?? Are the Muslims in India casting their votes separately as minority people? & Have they separate administration In India as Muslims are minority people?? Answer is. < NO> Why did Mr. Symol Dutta being an editor of a news paper & others being as human right activists call a round table conference in the name of minority community insecure in Bangladesh? Are they not creating communal feeling & communal situation by holding such of talking & meeting or conference ? It was better for ( them ) the editors of news (NEWS means News of north east west south) papers & for the so called human right activists to think for dicussing as a whole what are the reasons what are the back ground behind that for happening such type accidents at any where in Bangladesh & at other part of the world including India. But they had done it as communal activists not as an editor or as human right activists Mr. Dowlla has passed his opinion as a human right activist not creating communal feeling. Mr Aslam Are you acting for cmmunal Raw? From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com> Subject: Re: [chottala.com] A family of Hindus in Bashkali were the victims of dacoity and not a reparcation of Guzrat incidents.
To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com Received: Thursday, 24 September, 2009, 1:31 AM
Dear All Mr. Siraj uddowllah brought Gujrat Incident out of context in his original blamed Mr. Shayamol Dutta for not arranging a conference on Guzrat when there was a massacre of Muslims. Mr. Siraj uddowlah went further to request the Bhorer Kagoj owner Mr. Saber H. Chowdhuri to take action this one eyed hindu editor . {anything personal ????? ] Now, Mr. uddowllah is changing his stance.....: :: He mentions that Bashkhali horror was a case of docoity. The tragic Bashkhali incident could be very well be the acts of some miscreants who are docoits..... . Mr. uddowllah should have mentioned that in the first place instead of bringing Norendra Modi and Guzrat riots while discussing the conference arranged by DORP. Now, in his present post Mr. Siraj uddowllah says " A family of Hindus in Bashkali were the victims of dacoity and not a reparcation of Guzrat incidents." Many people have indicated the incident as communal matter, which may be debatable, but I have not seen anyone calling the Bashkhali tragedy a "reparcation of Guzrat incident ". Can Mr. Siraj uddowllah point out where did someone has called the Bashkhali Tragedy as the repurcation of Guzrat incident? As far as I have seen Mr. Siraj uddowllah is the only person who brought Guzrat massacre while talking about Bashkhali incident ... I only objected to his bringing up the issue of Gujrat Riots while discussing an tragic incident at home. Mr. Siraj uddowllah's accusation in chottala message # 10390 is misleading and totally unfounded. There is no mix up in my position.... we should not just bring incidents in India or any other country, out of context explicitly or implicitly, while discussing a tragic incident in Bangladesh. Mr. Siraj uddowllah is at liberty to discuss & condemn Norendro Modi's crimes and Massacre of Muslims in a different thread .... But, blaming Mr. Shayamol Dutta for not holding a conference on Gujrat riot has definitely given his post a vivid communal.undertone ....... there is an attitude problem that thrieves on innuendoes .... There is no denying of the fact that there are many "pockets" in Bangladesh where minorities, including the Hindus are soft targets of the criminals, docoits and the land grabbers ...... Thanks for everyone's patience. Syed Aslam I also wonder why Mr. Syed Aslam is trying to mix up the case of dacoity incidents with that of communal riots of Guzrat and twisting up the issue towards the communal side. There is no doubt the Bashkali incident was really an inhuman tragedy caused by some dacoits unluckily it was with the Hindu family which may be with the Muslim family also to loot money, ornaments and many other valuable articles according to their suitability and opportunity, and if given any obstacles the nature of these inhuman dacoits to kill them also. There is no resemblance of this dacoity case and also not any reparcation of the communal incidents caused by the fanatic Hindus instigated by a so called well known top political leader of Guzrat happened to be a chief Minister of that particular area named Norendra Singh Modi doing all sorts of rampage, mass killing, looting the Muslim shop intentionally and causing killing of about hundreds or more Muslims by burning them alive mentioning to teach the Muslims how to burn according to the way of Hindu rituals. Not only that those notorious fanatic people tearing and burning our Holy Quran which we used to touch with respect The dacoits of Bashkali incidents if recognized and caught would definitely be punished by hanging them by our court of justice for committing such a heinous crime like killing some people of an innocent family even not required to arrange a round table conference also. Mr. Aslam has shown so many links and documents of some commission made by the Indian high court but what happened for those known culprit especially for Norendra Singh Modi who was the root of all these incidents. He is freely moving in the common public place without any punishment given to him by the Indian high court yet. Because of his misdeeds he did in Guzrat he was refused to give any visa to U.S.A. even. Yes I quite agree what Mr. Syed Aslam says people of Bangladesh have every rights to discuss the issues of communal harmony at home, especially towards the minorities if they feel insecure and threatened due to sporadic incidents of intentional communal disharmony. The minorities should have enough assurance and guarantee that such incidents would not be repeated elsewhere in the country. But here in this case of dacoity why to get the smell of communal disharmony as our country not like that of India is well known as an internationally recognised moderate Muslim country. Actually how much it is wise to mix up the dacoity incidents with the communal case of Guzrat. Can anybody suggest how to stop the dacoity case if it happened again and again suddenly in any place at any time. Is there any benefit of arranging such a round table conference by giving it a shape of a communal case as this was tried by the Editor of Bhorer Kagoz. Because this was not the case of communal disharmony and intolerance towards religious minorities. The following posting by Syed Aslam on 16.9.2009: Hindus in Bangladesh do not bear any responsibility for the Gujrat riots...... Why blame them ? Dear All Like charity communal harmony should also begin at home: People of Bangladesh have rights to discuss the issues of communal harmony at home, especially the minorities if they feel insecure and threatened due to sporadic incidents. The minorities should have enough assurance and gurranttee that such incidents would not be repeated elsehere in the country. Hindus in Bangladesh do not bear any responsibility for the Gujrat riots and should not be blamed as such. The Gujrat riot has been brought out of context while discussing Bashkhali tragedy. And BTW, Development Orgnasination of the Rural Poor (DORP), a non-government organization, arranged the seminar titled 'National Seminar on Social Harmony and Rights- Banshkhali Tragedy' at the National Press Club. Blaming Bangladeshi hindus in general or Bhorer Kagoj editor Mr. Shayamal Dutta in particular, for not "arranging a round table conference" for incidents elsewhere [Gujrat riot] is essentially exhibits religious prejudice & intolerance through hidden aspersions and innuendoes, and may lean towards communal provocation at it's worst. I wonder why Mr. Dowllah is mixing up issues? The People of Bangladesh has maintained a very high degree of communal harmony and tolerance towards religious minorities, in general. However, there are small pockets where incidents of violences against hindus (or other minorities) has occured instgated by a narrow coterie of vested interest. The Bashkhali incident was one such tragedy. Our nation should not condone any of such incidents under any pretext whatsoever. Also, we should not put our dirts under the rugs ..... We should maintain a zero tolerance policy on all sort of sectarianism and communalism in our country. All sorts of communal violence and attrocities should be exposed, condemned & punished. Communal violences & attrocities in Gujrat on anywhere in India or China can not justiy the same in Bangladesh. FYI, Norendra Modi and his BJP cum Sangha Paribar & Bojrong Dol goons have been condenmed by the sane voices in India and all over the world. Norendra Modi has been barred fron entering USA several times for his role in Gujrat riots. Various Human Rights organisations in India and USA have not only condemned but fighting for justice & punishment of the real purputrators of 2002 Gujrat massacre of the Muslims. The Human Rights organisations also played a major role in revoking Norendra Modi's US visa in 2008 and in his previous attempt to visit USA. Relared: Special courts for Gujarat riots - BBC News: 'Gujarat riots had State support': Syed Aslam FW: [ chottala.com] ˜State religion undermines others: Deputy speaker Dear all chottala readers, Mr. Shayamal Dutta editor of "Dainik Bhorer Kagoz" arranged a rounnd table conference regarding Bashkali incidents but why he did not arrange such type of conferences when thousands of Muslims were massacred and burned alive in Guzrat by a fanatic hindu chief Minister Norendra Singh Modi. The Bashkali hindu families were human being and Guzrat Muslims were not human? Mr. Shaymal Dutta is taking the full advantage of his being a hindu editor of a newspaper like "Bhorer Kagoz" to arrange such a conference about incidents of a hindu family in Bashkali. Being a responsible editor of a renowned newspaper like Bhorer Kagoz he should be above all sorts of religious prejudice. Mr. Saber Hossain Chowdhury owner of "Bhorer Kagoz" is requested to take action against this one eyed editor of highly reputed newspaper, being involved in trying to create a communal feeling of a peace loving peoples of secular Bangladesh Dowllah. .
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