Banner Advertise

Monday, July 20, 2009

[chottala.com] The past is never dead. It's not even past -.be it in 1971 or be it in 680 AD !



The past is never dead. It's not even past -.be it in 1971 or be it in 680 AD !
 
WRT:
 
Mr. Salahuddin Ayubi
 
You sound very soft and understanding of the  Pakistani
Generals and their local collaborators  who committed Genocide
[according to you they are ok, because in their eyes the
Bangladeshis were gaddars or traitors, so rape, Genocide and
attrocities were justifiable !!!!]. You are, essentially, condoning the
perpetrators and abettors of Genocide, mass rape and torture of
our people .....
 
What the Yahia-Tikka regime and their collaborators in
Jammati-Albodor militia did in 1971 was illegal even under Pakistan's
own law , was illegal under international law & law of natural
justice & morality.
 
The advent of Islam was revolutionary in the context of
Aiam-e-Jaheliat. Yazid's grandfather Abu Sufyan sought to
exterminate the emerging Islam by all henious means ....because
of his vested interest with Jaheliat .... the stance of the Sufiyanoids
changed after their complete defeat.....but they did not give up ...
They couldn't  beat Islam, so joined it ... but gradually started
using Islam for their mean self-interest and power grabbing...
  
The crimes committed in 680 AD by Yazid bin Muawiyah & his
associates was against a legitimate cause, a mission which 
Hazrat Imam Husayn (RA) represented .... Our Liberation war
1971 AD also represented a cause and a mission that relied
upon legitimacy and natural  justice...
 
Again and again you are emphesizing that 1971 crimes of
Jamaate Islami is a matter of past .....But bear in mind that
 "The past is never dead. It's not even past."
.... be it in1971 AD or be it in  680 AD ...
Jamaatis have never even repented for their crimes in 1971,
rather adamantly justifying their support for Yahia-Tikka regime
and participation as abettor of Genocide, rape, torture and other
attrocities as  "political difference" ....
 
BTW, Mister Ayubi is essentially supporting Jamaat's position
pretending to be an outsider...But, it must be known to everyone
that no one can fool all Bangladeshi for all times ....
 
Syed Aslam
 
On 7/18/09, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:
What has it got to do with your 71 ?  There was no religous figure who were
slaughtered? In 5he eyes of Pakis we were gaddars or traitors.
                       Ayubi
From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:08:42 PM
Subject: [Amra-Bangladesi] Bangladesh probe targets '71 foes -
 
 
 
Mr. Salauddin Ayubi
 
We the muslims still mourne for the massacre of Hazrat Imam Husayn (RA)
at Karbala in 680 AD, almost 1329 years after the incident .....What would
you have done if Yazid bin Muawiyah & his associates were available
within your jurisdiction? Pamper him? Hug him?
 
The Karbala incident was a great tragedy in the history of the Mussulmans.
There has been hundreds of Karbala in 1971 Bangladesh by Tikka
Khan's army where Jamaate Islami with it's barbaric Al-Bodor forces 
were the main local collaborator under the leadership of GoAzam & Nizami
gong.
 
In a very historical sense, Jamaate Islami is the party of Neo-Yazidists.
Yazid's grandfather Abu Sufyan sought to exterminate the adherents of the
emerging religion Islam by all henious means. After the battle of Badr,
Abu Sufyan's wife Hind cut open the corpse of Hazrat Hamza (RA), taking
out his liver which she then attempted to eat to express her hatered for the
Mussulmans.
 
When our Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) took control of Mecca and
announced a general amnesty for all, Abu Sufyan, embraced Islam. So
did his son Muawiyah, the father of Yazid, the perpetrator of the Karbala
massacre ..Yazeed, son of Muawiyah, claimed to follow  Islam and
pretended to be an Islam-lover .....
 
Jamaate Islami opposed the emergence of Bangladesh almost in the
same way the notorious Abu Suiyan, his associates, & his family did  during the
emergence of Islam
....  and likewise, Jamaat opposed Bangladesh during the most critical
times of 1971, but when Jamaate re-appeared in late seventees, few years
after our victory, it started pretending to be Bangladesh-lovers and started 
masquerading itself with a "holier-than- thou" camouflage ......
 
But, bear in mind that Jamaate Islami can fool some Bangladeshis for
some times.....but not all Bangladeshis for all times. Our current and future
generations of Bangladeshis will remember the Jamaate Islami as the mass
killers and abettors of Genocides of 1971 ........
 ...and as the perpetrator Hundreds of Karbala type massacre in 1971 Bangladesh
.....  Killer Jamaatis will be hated as the neo-Yazidists for all times to come.....
 
Mister Ayubi, the Jamaatis can run but they won't be able hide their past...
no matter how hard you try and no matter under what pretext you try to protect
or shield them !!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
 
Golam Azam - The Top Traitor-Criminal of 20th century Bangladesh  !

 
In KARBALA the Skies Wept Blood ... In 1971, for nine months the
Skies Wept Blood in Bangladesh too .......but at the end Bangladesh
had a happy ending ... Bangladesh won it's freedom !!!!
  
Syed Aslam
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com> wrote:
We are an unfortunate nation that is stuck for good in 1971. Is it because that we have done nothing worthwhile since 1971? Dont you think that the impoverished people of this country expects its political leadership to get them out of the cycle of poverty instead of politicing with 1971.?
                           Ayubi

From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com_,_._,___
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:39:28 PM
Subject: [notun_bangladesh] Bangladesh probe targets '71 foes - THE WASHINGTON TIMES

The Washington Times
 
Wednesday, July 15, 2009

Bangladesh probe targets '71 foes

Cassie Fleming THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Bangladeshi authorities are investigating "genocide" allegations against opponents of its break with Pakistan nearly 40 years ago, the nation's ambassador to Washington said Tuesday.

The Bangladeshi government, which took office in January following elections that ended two years of emergency rule, blames former paramilitary opponents of independence for 3 million murders and 200,000 rapes during the 1971 conflict.

Ambassador M. Humayun Kabir told editors and reporters at The Washington Times that the country has been yearning to resolve the war-crimes issue for decades. But critics claim the investigation is a thinly disguised attempt to silence opponents in a nation notorious for its political instability.

The country's younger generations - many of whom were too young to participate in or even remember the war - spurred the crusade for justice, as they are "more sensitive after experiencing the Rwandan and Bosnian genocides," Mr. Kabir said.

"Other genocides pricked our consciences, and we now want to catch up with our past," he said.

The government led by Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina approved a bill in June to set up a tribunal and put former fighters on trial. Mrs. Hasina's alliance controls an overwhelming majority in the parliament.

Local press reports say more than 1,700 people who opposed independence from Pakistan during the nine-month civil war have been identified as possible targets of the probe. Mr. Kabir could not confirm the reports.

He said the probe was not political and that no particular party was being targeted.

But Jamaat-i-Islami, an Islamist party that was part of a coalition that ruled Bangladesh from 2001 to 2006, claims it is the target. The party sought to keep Bangladesh part of Pakistan.

Aktar Hossain, a spokesman for the Muslim Ummah of North America, an organization consisting primarily of Bangladeshi expatriates, called the investigation an attempt to eliminate the opposition.

"The administration is not cooperating with the opposition and is trying to create a one-party parliament," said Mr. Hossain, whose group frequently brings senior officials of Jamaat-i-Islami to Washington for meetings with administration and congressional officials.

"People of Bangladesh are concerned, and we will have millions take to the streets if the investigations continue," Mr. Hossain said.

Crimes committed during the war were addressed in a 1973 reconciliation process, and if the issue is revisited, it should be done in front of the international community, he said.

The government put proposed changes to the 1973 legislation in parliament last week that would reopen the issue, Mr. Kabir said.

Human Rights Watch, an international nongovernmental human-rights- advocacy organization, sent a letter to the prime minister last week, backing the attempt to prosecute war crimes, provided the process was "fair and neutral."

Mr. Kabir said the government investigation and any trials will meet international legal standards.

The U.S. State Department had no immediate comment.

Caitlin J. Rattigan/The Washington Times M. Humayun Kabir, Bangladesh's

Caitlin J. Rattigan/The Washington Times M. Humayun Kabir, Bangladesh's ambassador to the U.S., says his government is investigating decades-old "genocide" allegations because "other genocides pricked our consciences."

 

Caitlin J. Rattigan/The Washington Times M. Humayun Kabir, Bangladesh's ambassador to the U.S., says his government is investigating decades-old "genocide" allegations because "other genocides pricked our consciences."
Click the photo to enlarge.

 Ambassador to the U.S., says his government is investigating decades-old "genocide" allegations because "other genocides pricked our consciences."




__._,_.___


[* Moderator's Note - CHOTTALA is a non-profit, non-religious, non-political and non-discriminatory organization.

* Disclaimer: Any posting to the CHOTTALA are the opinion of the author. Authors of the messages to the CHOTTALA are responsible for the accuracy of their information and the conformance of their material with applicable copyright and other laws. Many people will read your post, and it will be archived for a very long time. The act of posting to the CHOTTALA indicates the subscriber's agreement to accept the adjudications of the moderator]




Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___