'Behesti Jeor' democracy? - S. Turkman, a god fearing muslim with different interpretation.......
WRT:
Mr. S. Turkman
Things are becoming clearer. You just another God Fearing Muslim who has
different interpretation of Islam !
What's your say on the role of Ulema in the day to day life of ordinary
powerless people:
(1) Teacher
(2) Exacutive [as in Kohemeni's doctrine- Guardianship of the Jurist]
(3) Executive [Local power figure - as in Taleban Afganistan]
(4) Military Commender [In the Islamic State of Afganistan and the Islamic Republic of Iran,
Mullahs have directly coordinated military operations
(5) Role in judicature -
(6) Advisory role
(7) Preaching
(8) Fatwabazi [As we see in rural south Asia ]
(9) Ulema as authors
Do you have your own doctrine or follow one of the existing such as
Hanafi, Shāfi'ī , Maliki, Hanbali, Druze ectc.
On 1/7/08, S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal.net > wrote:
'Behesti Jeor' democracy?
I agree with you. We need a Reform in Islam. God never mention word '5 Pillars of Islam' in Qoraan. The Prophet never mentioned them. They were created by our Mollaas because they suited them best and not the Basics of Islam that He had given to Prophet Moses (Moosau) though they were repeated in Qoraan in a lot more detail than in 10 Commandments of Old Testament. The Basics of Islam are not 5 Pillars. The Basics are the following:
THE 10 COMMANDMENTS
1. You shall not have other gods before me ...!
2. You shall not make graven images and bow down to them ...!
3. You shall not call my name in Vain ...!
4. Remember the Sabbath Day (the day of rest & Worship) ...!
5. Honor thy Parents ... !
6. You shall not Kill ...!
7. You shall not commit Adultery ...!
8. You shall not Steal ...!
9. You shall not bear false witness (or lie) ...!
10. You shall not covet (desire enviously, what belongs to somebody else) ...!
The No. 4 above was is missing in Qoraan because our day of worship wad Friday and Sabath means Saturday. These are the basics, not 5 Pillars, not the Rituals, not the traditions. Mollaas put all the emphasis on their 5 Pillars and do not put emphasis on the above plus other stuff that is supplemental to the above like Bribe Taking is same as stealing. Robbing is same as No. 10. Mis-use of power is same as stealing. Swindling and defrauding is also Stealing.
Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@...> wrote:
Q: Can you please define Islam for me?
A: 1. Pronouncing Sahadah
2. Following 5 pillars
Now you are a muslim - as simple as that!
The Deobondi Islam which stress heavily on rituals
like Salat, Ramadan, Hajj etc. But they ignore the
plea for knowledge of the nature or mankind or our
souls. No wonder Muslims are back pedaling than moving
forward.
Those Mullahs of Deobondi wrote an excellent book of
blind ignorance named - 'Behesti Jeor'. You can get
every potion of your problem in that book here or
hereafter. Everyday, millions of Muslims blowing on a
glass of water with those verses from 'Behesti Jeor'
for the cure of their disease and for their problem.
No wonder last 100 years, there were not a significant
Muslim Scientists, Nobel laureate or inventions. We
could not send any Muslim in the moon yet, though
there are lot of verses in Quran about the
infiniteness of universe & Solar system.
We do not really understand and embrace our faith, we
merely follow some rituals prescribed by Mullahs.
Today, Muslims largely believe in some Islamic
symbolism than the real faith. So, we never grow faith
in ourselves, we blindly follow some rituals.
This is so wrong!
If you look at the life of Prophet and early verses of
Quran, it's all about instilling faith. There are lots
of science in those verses about the universe, solar
system and formation of life from a single cell
mutation.
What Islam need today is a revival of Intellectual
divinity and a reality check with modernity.
We need to do some serious soul searching, otherwise,
we are at the peril of extinction!
Peace,
--- ahmedsohail siddiqui
< sohaisiddiqui7862006@....in> wrote:
[* Moderator's Note - CHOTTALA is a non-profit, non-religious, non-political and non-discriminatory organization.
* Disclaimer: Any posting to the CHOTTALA are the opinion of the author. Authors of the messages to the CHOTTALA are responsible for the accuracy of their information and the conformance of their material with applicable copyright and other laws. Many people will read your post, and it will be archived for a very long time. The act of posting to the CHOTTALA indicates the subscriber's agreement to accept the adjudications of the moderator]
Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe
__,_._,___
