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Thursday, December 6, 2007

RE: [chottala.com] Re: [Dahuk]: RAW analyst described 1971 as ‘Civil War’ in 2003


I believe Engr Anu is perpetually, stoned not on regular drugs but by his infectious cult like belief in BAL ( Bangladesh Awami League) doctrines. His posting dictates whole country belongs to AL and if you are not with them then you are against them which equates to "against Bangladesh". What a fascist idea!!!!.

 

I have asked him few reasonable questions which he failed to response but kept on with his political jargon.

 

I am not political savvy like him but references he is giving citing few names prompted me to say something about them. All the names he mentioned are established AL intellects –

ex VC Prof Abdul Matin – 1st politically appointed VC of Dhaka University by Banghabondhu, all along Awami Think Tanker. Got his son married to daughter of fugitive AL leader Akthrazuzaman Babu.

Abdul Gaffer Chowdhury – Migrant journalist, doesn't have and 1st hand views / news what is happening in Bangladesh for last 32 years.

Muntasir Mamun – Proven AL intellect – what neutral views can he prescribe?

 

I would like to comment on few of his statements:

 

Bangabandhu also did not make any compromise to the greater & long term interest of Bangalee & Bangladesh to any country (including India, USA, Pakistan, KSA etc) any interest of Bangladesh until his death.   ---

MY COMMENT -WHO MADE 25 YEARS TREATY WITH INDIA?

 

But Zia (so called guardian of Islam in BD) put down the big and all the bill boards with holy statement of the Qur'an & Hadith in the city of Dhaka before the visit of Indian Prime Minister.

MY COMMENT - WHO REMOVED THE PHRASE "IRQA BISME RABBIKA" FROM THE DHAKA UNIVERSITY LOGO?

WHO CHANGED KAZI NAZRUL ISLAM COLLEGE'S NAME TO KAZI NAZRUL REMOVING ISLAM?

LATE INDIRA GANDHI AND OTHER HANDFUL HONEST POLITICAL LEADERS???—WHEN DID INDIA JOINED IN OUR LIBERATION OF WAR OFFICIALLY? AND FOR WHAT PURPOSE?

 

Jamaat - Shibir - Razakar - Al-Badar - Paki - Muslim League (BNP is cocktail of these).will continue to be hated, criticized, damned as it was done in past and will be treated same at now and also be treated same in future, for hundreds and hundreds of years to come!

Bangalee & Bangladesh will fight the same fight they fought in 1971 to get rid of these Jamat-BNP-Razakar-Muslim League-Paki supporter and their cronies.

 

MY COMMENT – THIS IS THE MOST DEROGATORY REMARKS HE HAS MADE ON ALMOST 35 – 40% OF BANGLADESH CITIZEN WHO ARE NOT AL SUPPORTERS BUT SUPPORTED BNP DURING LAST 3 ELECTIONS. THIS STATEMENT IS INCITING IN NATURE AND SHOWS THE TRUE COLOUR OF HIM WHICH I SAID EARLIER (BAL STILL BELIEVE BANGLADESH IS THEIR PROPERTY).

WHO GAVE MR ANU THE MORAL AUTHORITY TO COMMENT ON CITIZEN OF BANGLADESH? HE HIMSELF LIVING A MIGRANT LIFE IN A SAFE HAVEN POISONING YOUNG BRAINS WITH HIS HATRED FILLED INCITING REMARKS

HIS CONTINUOUS EFFORT TO HIGHLIGHT THE WORD BANGALEE SHOWS HE AND HIS PARTY DISOWNING OTHER CITIZENS OF BANGLADESH WHO ARE NOT BANGALEE, MAYBE HE AND LIKE MINDED PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON SOME HIDDEN AGENDA SUCH AS UNIFIED BANGLA ( DON'T KNOW WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM IT – JUST REMEMBER THE SIKKIM STATUS AND RECENT WARNING BY MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT TO INDIA NOT TO MEDDLE WITH MALAYSIAN INTERNAL AFFAIRS IN REGARDS TO TREATMENT OF ETHNIC INDIANS OF MALAYSIA) OR MAYBE INCITING OTHER INDIGENOUS CITIZEN OF THE COUNTRY TO SEPARATE????



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From: srbanunz@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:19:30 +1300
Subject: [chottala.com] Re: [Dahuk]: RAW analyst described 1971 as 'Civil War' in 2003


It is nothing new. It happened in past too, even during 1971 and after 1972 too!

 

One Paki Jamat Dalal (MBI Munshi) holds & backs - another Indian 'Jamat', 'Dalal'.

 

Many Indiana Bureaucrats, political & social leaders, businessmen, lobby group opposed our liberation war during liberation war and many act against interest of Bangladesh after 1972 till today.

 

But due to strong positive role of late Indira Gandhi & other handful & few Indian honest leaders (friendly & well wishers of Bangladesh) and also due to patriotic & unyielding political leaders of Bangladesh leadership - those vast anti Bangladesh Indian leaders Bureaucrats, businessmen, lobby group were not successful all the time.

 

For detail, read many (not one or two) practical articles published in books, news paper on real facts, incidents described, witnessed by late M R A Mukul, Abdul Gaffar Choudhury, late SASM Kibria, Moinul Islam, Dr. Muntasir Mamun, Dr. Momen & others.

 

Patriotic & unyielding political leaders of Bangladesh (like Bangabandhu, Sayed Nazrul, Tajuddin Ahmed, Sheikh Hasina & few others but not like Zia - Ershad-Khaleda.

 

Sayed Nazrul-Tajuddin Ahmed govt did not yielded to any unjust demand, plan of India during 1971.

 

Bangabandhu also did not make any compromise to the greater & long term interest of Bangalee & Bangladesh to any country (including India, USA, Pakistan, KSA etc) any interest of Bangladesh until his death.

 

Same was practised by Sheikh Hasina (Farakkah water treaty, Ctg HT peace treaty, Natural gas export to India etc)

 

But Zia (so called guardian of Islam in BD) put down the big and all the bill boards with holy statement of the Qur'an & Hadith in the city of Dhaka before the visit of Indian Prime Minister.

 

Similarly Khaleda Zia forgets to discuss the Farakkah issue (a burning issue) with her Indian Counter part during her state visit to India.

 

Ershad-Zia-Khaleda never raised our demands on our legal & owing share outstanding to Pakistan during any meeting with Pakistani counter part.

 

I can also cite many such incidents, facts & example (from the writings of late M R A Mukul, Abdul Gaffar Choudhury, late SASM Kibria, Moinul Islam, Dr. Muntasir Mamun, Dr. Momen & others)

 

That is why, I told one Paki Jamat Dalal (MBI Munshi) holds & backs - another Indian 'Jamat', 'Dalal'   to divert our attention to wrong matters and from burning issue of the present time - trial & punishment of war criminal of 1971.
 
 
"Sustha thakon, nirapade thakon ebong valo thakon"

Shuvechhante,

Shafiqur Rahman Bhuiyan (ANU)
NEW ZEALAND.

Phone: 00-64-9-828 2435 (Res), 00-64-0274  500 277 (mobile)
E-mail: srbanunz@gmail.com

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On 12/1/07, MBI Munshi <MBIMunshi@gmail.com> wrote:
In relation to the controversy surrounding the 1971 events being
described as a 'civil war' a similar assessment had been made by
senior RAW analyst Dr. Subhash Kapila back in 2003 which did not
arouse any hostility in Bangladesh at the time. Could someone please
explain why the recent mention of the words 'civil war' in relation to
1971 aroused such animosity and anger most recently?

Is this a case of double standards being applied by some hired
intellectuals to simply foment trouble around the war criminals issue.

The following is the relevant quotation from the article by Dr.
Subhash Kapila titled 'BANGLADESH-CHINA DEFENCE CO-OPERATION
AGREEMENT'S STRATEGIC IMPLICATIONS: An Analysis  and published on SAAG
on January 14, 2003 –

"The civil war in Pakistan that commenced in March 1971 ended in
December 1971 and Bangladesh emerged as an independent nation state
thereafter."

The criticisms that appeared in the Bangladesh media recently on the
issue suggested that anyone claiming 1971 as a civil war does not
accept it as a liberation war and is against the ideals of the nation.
According to this analysis it would appear our Indian benefactors did
not view 1971 as a war of liberation either but as a civil war and so
this must logically raise the question of how they perceive Bangladesh
today – as a sovereign nation or a vassal state although superficially
independent?

I am sure that the 'patriotic citizens' who raised a 'hue and cry'
over the civil war remarks in Bangladesh will denounce Indian analyst
Dr. Subhash Kapila for making exactly the same statement and demand an
apology.

In my view I think that the issue had been blown out of all proportion
in Bangladesh merely to create a controversy that would inevitably
favour a political party. Some of the activities and statements of the
Chief Election Commissioner and Chief Advisor seems also to point in
this direction.

Should we be concerned that the purposes behind which the emergency
was called in January 11, 2007 is being hijacked by a particular
quarter and that now political events in Bangladesh are part of a
larger conspiracy hatched from overseas as suggested by Amar Desh
recently?  I think we must be vigilant about the course the nation is
taking in the next few weeks and months and not create unnecessary
controversies that will divide us.


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