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Monday, October 29, 2007

Re: [chottala.com] To form special tribunals to try war criminals

Dr. Siraj uddowllah,
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Siraj uddowllah <uddowllahsiraj@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Abdur Rahim Azad,
 
What dina khan is telling I think she is right. CTG is trying their level best only to give us a fair and free election within this fully corrupted  Bangladesh, created by the previous democratic regime.
 
CTG have got two options at present in their hand. Number (1) is to wipe out the corruption and number (2) is to present us a corruption and Karchupi free election. 
 
Within this short time by their sincere efforts they caught many corrupted political leaders of the previous regime. Again many people wanted, these  leaders to be released, and the power should be handed over to the same corrupted leaders through election in the name of so called democratic process. Many have started criticising our present sincere and honest CTG by raising hue and cry to give an early election. 
 
Now again they are asking CTG to form special tribunal for those war criminals after 36 years. Our great leader and father of the nation Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman already gave them amnesty without taking any consents from the public who suffered a lot in the hands of those Rajakar, Al-Badar, Al-Shams and Jamaat during 1971 liberation war. As people used to love Bangabandhu too much at that time they accepted his decision whole heartedly without any objection.
 
What we see now, these opportunistic political parties using this Jamaat as trum card, one time Awami League took them in their side to win the election as in 1996, and in another time in 2001 B.N.P. took them in their side. " Baap dakteyo deri nai, shala dakteyo deri nai". In this way election game is going on by making the publics in the middle as a great fool. What they think about the common people? Are they play doll in the hands of those two political parties?    
 
CTG is only responsible to do and conduct free and fair election. It is not their duty to start tribunal for those war criminals. It is the duty of the next democratically elected govt. Uptill now the so called democratic leaders could not do anything for those war criminals even by making GHADANIK and what not, and now again some are demanding CTG should do everything and make a war tribunal within these short period which our previous so called democratic leaders could not do uptill now. What sorts of  absurd proposal is this? Why not they did this during their tenure? Why to break the KATHAL upon the heads of CTG?
 
Dr. Siraj uddowllah, Windsor, Canada.
 
 
 
 
Mr Abdur Rahim As ad
By asking to this present CTG to form special tribunals for doing trial of war criminals it is proving that the political leaders in Bangladesh are totally inefficient to rule the country. If you ask CTG to do trial after proper investigation then this CTG should need to continue at least 40 years on postponing national election.
Because political government could not be able to file any case to the court for doing trial against any war criminal during last 36 years. Now CTG for doing trial first needs to investigate for finding out with proper proof the persons who were war criminals in 1971 then CTG can proceed to do trial.
So all political leaders must need to support the present CTG continue for doing trials of war criminals by postponing election until finish the trials of war criminals.
CTG is also needed to form a Care Taker Party with care taker neutral administration for doing its functional jobs neutrally.
Present CTG is also required to form a special tribunal court for doing trial for why the political leaders who were in power during last 36 years did not do trial against the War Criminals after proper investigation.
 
 
AbdurRahim Azad <Arahim.azad@ gmail.com> wrote:
 
 
 
A liar and a falsifier of history :  Bangladesh Genocide denial by another Jamaati apologist
This is the same S.A.Hannan who regularly post items from Asia posts in Khabor  forum.
He is a  life long Jamaati-activist, a collaborator of Yahia-Tikka regime and a promoter of
neo-Yazidi political Islam.  It is no surprize that he has now joined Jamaat's latest develish
maneauvers.
 
Visit his latest blog in this forum:
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/khabor/ message/5712
 
The mass killings in Bangladesh is the most concentrated act of genocide in the twentieth century.  In an attempt to crush forces seeking independent the Pakistani military regime unleashed a systematic campaign of mass murder aimed at killing millions of Bengalis in 1971.
Bangladesh.Bengali man and boys massacred by the West Pakistani regime. Bengali intellectuals murdered and dumped at dockside in Dacca.
 
 
There was no genocide; it was a 'civil war'
Claims Shah A Hannan

 
Known Jamaat-sympathiser and former Islami Bank chairman Shah Abdul Hannan has described the Liberation War of 1971 as a "civil war". He denied that genocide took place in the country at that time and that war criminals exist here.

Speaking on a talk show, Ekushey Shomoy, on private satellite television channel Ekushey Television on Friday, Hannan also expressed doubts that three million people died in the war and supported a Pakistani report according to which only 26,000 people or less died during the Liberation War.

The following is a transcript of his comments made on the talk show:

DENIAL OF WAR CRIMES
At the Simla Conference between India and Pakistan, Pakistani soldiers were released as war prisoners, not war criminals. So, I am in agreement with [Jamaat-e-Islami secretary general Ali Ahsan Mohammad] Mojaheed that there are no war criminals in the country.

There was an Awami League government until 1975 and there was another Awami League government in 1996, under which I worked as a secretary and I was even close to the administration. But they never thought of trying war criminals. Another major party BNP was in power during the rule of Ziaur Rahman and later came to power thrice, and at no point did they try to hold trials of the war criminals.

Since no one is making any claim and there are no cases filed with the court--Bangladesh government is the entity that can file a case and has never filed a case against anyone--I will continue to say there are no war criminals in this country until the government files a case against anyone.

CIVIL WAR, NOT LIBERATION WAR
I frankly think it was a liberation war but it was also a civil war not only in the sense that it was between West and East Pakistan but also because it was a fight between political forces supporting a untied Pakistan and an independent Bangladesh.

If they can prove that these things [war crimes] were done in 1971, let them take it to court. The constitution mentions that Bangladesh was created through a liberation war--yes, it is true. But plenty of people say it was a civil war.

I know this much that in 1971 there was a civil war...Fine, it was also a Muktijuddha. ..From what I have read in foreign newspapers and encyclopaedia, it was a civil war and most people did not call it a "struggle for freedom". But there is no doubt that it was a genuine freedom fight by the people of Bangladesh. It was an excitable time and the population was also more or less divided. So, those who thought at that time that it was not right to break up Pakistan with the help of India held the view that they should stay on the side of the then Pakistan administration politically, not for violence. The other side thought they should unite with India to gain independence. There were a lot of excesses back then--not only members of one community died--Hindus died, Muslims died, Biharies died, Bangalees died, wives died, children died, women died, men died...And the number, I do not know anything about three million deaths. There was no survey in 1972, not in 1974, and never. That is why these numbers are allowed to be mentioned. I urge the current government to conduct a survey so this problem is solved. It is not right to ask this to the caretaker government, ask this to the next elected government.

Bangalees were on both the sides, involved in the events before December 16, 1971. You have to judge in that political context. I think those who were against the idea of Bangladesh have shifted from that position. A lot of them are my good friends--they are patriotic, they defend Bangladesh, they are in a struggle to build Bangladesh and protect it from the attacks of other countries.

REACTION TO NIZAMI'S 1971 REMARKS
Genocide is a matter of definition. Not everything is genocide. The United Nations has not called this genocide. We can call this genocide or whatever. Nizami could clarify his own quotes. But I know in the context of 1971, there was a civil war...and another war between India and Pakistan. Both Razakars and collaborators were killed as well as freedom fighters. It was a struggle between ethnic and political forces...Bangalees and Biharis were also fighting each other. So, it was not genocide. This is my personal opinion.

HAMOOD-UR-RAHMAN COMMISSION REPORT
[The commission was formed with the then Pakistan Supreme Court Chief Justice Hamood-ur-Rahman as the head to ascertain the facts of the 1971 debacle. It reported that 26,000 people or less died in the war.]

I cannot ignore the findings because he was a Bangalee, a judge of the High Court and the chief justice of the Supreme Court. But, it is our fault that the governments during the rule of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, Sheikh Hasina and Khaleda Zia did not conduct a survey. Wise men are still here who can still say how many people died in which village. Sheikh Mujib first said one million and then said 30 million and he is quoted in encyclopaedias. But they also did not conduct surveys. The truth needs to come out and the government needs to conduct a survey.

The matter of war criminals' right to participate in politics...Well, if they are found guilty, then they have no right to form a party, fine. But, until they are not proven guilty of war crimes they can...But, if they are proven guilty, do not let them form parties, imprison them, hang them, if you need to..

RELIGION-BASED POLITICS
Islam is not simply a religion, it is a life system. You can say about secularism.. .Sheikh Mujib himself established the Islamic Foundation and the Quran was also recited on the radio during the Liberation War, Allahu Akbar was mentioned several times during airing.

Denying a religion-based political party will be denying the democratic process and the constitution. No democracy can ban a religion-based party.

Religion-based politics...has never been banned in the sub-continent. The Muslim League and the Jamaat-e-Islami India were banned in India but they were cleared by the court.

Bangladeshi Islamic parties have been in existence since 1975. According to the constitution, if any party has any right to be formed, it is the Islamic parties. It is a democratic constitution, not just a large Islamic constitution, and no party can be banned under a democratic constitution, not in England, not anywhere else.
 


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