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Thursday, March 24, 2011

Re: [chottala.com] Re: To our respected Teachers!



To my friends well wishers and  others.

I never subscribed to JSD politics and was never a follower of AL politics blindly. I try to be objective as far as possible. May be I am a bit biased towards the politics of AL as I cannot be with any politics of BNP for obvious reasons.  I also have many critics in AL who thinks I should not speak some truths so bluntly they do not like. Now for the trial of Col. Taher. His deeds on 7th. November was not under trial but his trial was. The trial of Col. Taher was a miscarriage of justice and absolutely non transparent. I expect to write on this. Even the trial of killing of Zia was to some extent more transparent though many wrong people were tried (it included quite a few of my childhood friends). I never supported his deeds on 7th. November and I will say so
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Many wishes of our Independence day.

Have a nice day.

Mannan


On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dear Mr. Abid:

 

Assalamualaikum. Thanks for your response towards my posting. In my 40 years of life I didn't see many Bangladeshis with good political consciousness. We are overly biased with our political ideology. No matter how educated we are, we simply can't go beyond our loyalty towards the preferred party/ideology.

 

With no offence to Manna sir and all the respected teacher's in these forums, in our student life, we observed how teachers (mostly who thought in the public universities in Bangladesh) are busy aligning themselves among Shada, Neel, Holud and Golapi panels. We also observed how the best student can't become a teacher if he/she doesn't get the blessing from those color coded panels. Contrary, how ordinary student become a teacher with the help of same color coded panels.

 

It is also worth to mention that it is our Sir's who polluted the student politics and used us (students) to become the leader of the above mentioned colored coded panels and the ultimate price is becoming VC. Now days, some of them do politics in the public university and teaches in the private ones.

 

Saying that, it is also acknowledged, there are still teachers' left who does genuinely teaching job. That's why we still have institution like BUET and IBA to name a few.

 

Now, one can ask, can't teacher be involved in politics! Of course they can. But they can't encourage students to be a part of it and should leave it out side the institution, at least to some extent.

 

Thanks again.

 

Helal

Toronto, Canada.

 

PS: I request all the respected teacher's in these forums to not to take my writing personally. And I hope my writing is not towards them as they don't fall into the teacher's category I mentione above. As I said, there are many honorable teachers' in Bangladesh, who is keeping the teaching profession with minimal financial compensation. And some of them still help their student to become extraordinary human being. We still visited them and touched their feet out of outmost respect because they deserve it. Whenever I go home, I make sure to visit few of my teachers who taught me throughout my life to be a better human being. Not necessarily, to be the best student. One of them is Samar Kanti Chowdhury sir, who thought be from Grade 1 to 6. I wish all the teacher's in Bangladesh is just like him.

 

 

 --- On Wed, 3/23/11, abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com> wrote:


From: abid bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Re: [KHABOR] Verdict of Col. Taher Case.
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com, abid.bahar@gmail.com, Ovimot@yahoogroups.com, faruquealamgir@gmail.com, farhadmazhar@hotmail.com, farid2002hossain@hotmail.com, notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com, modzaman@gmail.com
Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 7:26 PM

 
Hasina Fooling People with the Rule of Law
Abid Bahar
Professor Mannan is a very enlightened person but at the same time I read him in his work that he is an overly enthuasistic pro AL person as well. He is an honorable person. I don't think I am qualified to say anything to increase his enlightenment about Bangladesh politics but I want to say one thing to help him understand about his enthuasism that with the AL appointed judges some of whom were vendals and one was a murder accused, the judgement about Taher who was the killer of many innocent army offices for implimenting his vision of a the then Chinese style sepoy army, Hasina's is clearly politically motivated. In this judgement there is nothing to celebrate unless you are a hardcore Awami Leaguer enthusiast.
Additionally, it says what is legal is not always moral. Example: If the fascist leader Sadam made laws, or Gaddafi or Mujib with their one party rule, made laws, in Mujib's case when the elected Mujib denying the people's mandate made laws to supress the opposition installed one party rule, killing the opposition with his High Court laws, or killing Siraj Sikdar without laws and boosting about it,  it was simply a betrayal with the people who voted him to power. In the end such leaders as was Saddam with his two children were killed by the invasion forces, Mujib with his two children were killed by Bangladesh army and another dictator Gadafi calling himself as a revolutionary stays in power for decades now killing his countryman with the same fascist rule of law and who knows what awaits for him as well.  
In Hasina's case keeping Mahmudur Rahman, the editor of a newspaper in jail by Hasina's court was legal but abusing power through courts was neither democratic nor moral. True, politicians and their enthuasiasts are fooling and ruling people with the excuse of rule of law- is a village headman style politics brought to the city to convince some already enlightened people fighting against dictators and fascist regimes worldwide.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Dear Manna Sir:
Assalamualaikum. Thanks for sharing your comment on High courts verdict on Taher killing.
Sir, in the last few weeks there were many email circling around regarding this matter. I also posted a thread few days back. I would be honored to hear your feedback in regards of my below statement:
"Assalamua'laikum. Ok, for the sake of argument, I accept your notion that Ziaur Rahman was a cold blooded murderer for killing Col Taher. Then, do you also accept that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman was also a cold blooded murderer for killing Siraj Sikdar! I hope you must read or remember when Bongbondhu proclaimed, where is Siraj Sikdar after he was assassinated."
I'm really looking fwd to have a knowledgeable discussion with you regarding the hypocrisy in our today's society when it comes to discussing Mujib/Zia, India/Pakistan, Tarek/Joy, and so on.
Sir, I can assume how busy your life is however, your response is much appreciated.

Helal


--- On Tue, 3/22/11, Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
Subject: [KHABOR] Verdict of Col. Taher Case.
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com, alapon@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Miro Jangi" <mjangi@yahoo.com>, Diagnose@yahoogroups.com, "shahid mahmud" <shahid6609@yahoo.com>, "sultan chowdhury" <chottalasultan@yahoo.com>, "Saad Andaleeb" <saadandaleeb@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 3:21 AM


 
High Court has given a verdict that the hanging of Col. Taher by Gen. Zia was a cold blooded murder and the lone person responsible for it was General Zia. The Court also ruled that Zia was also directly  involved in the killing of Bangabandhu Sk. Mujib.

Mannan

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