Banner Advertise

Sunday, January 6, 2008

[chottala.com] Some free market lesson for all of us

Some free market lesson for all of us

The following article is being forwarded to those of our past and present policy-makers who thinks free market economy is something that brings welfare automatically. There is a growing evidence and thoughts in support of the idea that free market economy has brought welfare to the people when it was (and when it is) managed (fine-tuned) properly.

Pictures of the past policy-makers like Mr. Saifur Rahman and Dr. Osman Faruq should be hanged upside down in our current policy-makers' offices and houses to remind them that what has been practiced in the name of free market in last couple of years were stupidity. It did not help either the policy makers nor the people in general. Probably Adam Smith wasn't so sure about free economy as was our previous policymakers. It is our hope that current policymakers takes the context of the situation into consideration to make sure that they do not taint a very successful policy (in general terms) by not guiding it properly. With all the hue and cry, US economy is probably still more protected than many other economies of the world, many in the world might aruge. The Indian economy is another example of how to manage an economy while the body language is still in favour of free market.

Policy-making in the real life scenario is not a lab where you do something and expect that some good will happen. Policy making is about making sure (with some reasonable uncertainty) that the target clients are benefited out of the policies.  

This article should act as a guideline for the economists in the current interim government and other govt. agencies to take some bold decisions to ensure peoples welfare - in the short term and as well as medium to long term. Dr. Fakhruddin Ahmed, Dr. Mirza Azizul Haque, Dr. Salehuddin Ahmed - among others - should take note.
 
If you thought some of the ideas are worth of your reading time, please forward it to others. If you have an ear to the columinsts in regular traditional media, please forward it to them. If you have an ear to the journalists and news editors of the electronic media, discuss it with them. Hope they would look at the suggestions and give due diligence.
 
Thanks for your time,
Innovation Line
 
==================================================================================================
Note: This is a freelance column, published mainly in different internet based forums. This column is open for contribution by the members of new generation, sometimes referred to as Gen 71. If you identify yourself as someone from that age-group and want to contribute to this column, please feel free to contact. Thanks to the group moderator for publishing the article.
===================================================================================================
 
 
Economists question dominance of free-market ideas
By Patricia Cohen
Published: July 11, 2007


Source:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/07/11/business/economics.php

NEW YORK:

For many economists, questioning free-market orthodoxy is akin to expressing a belief in intelligent design at a Darwin convention: Those who doubt the naturally beneficial workings of the market are considered either deluded or crazy.

But in recent months, economists have engaged in an impassioned debate over the way their specialty is taught in universities around the United States, and practiced in Washington. They are questioning the profession's most cherished ideas about not interfering in the economy.

"There is much too much ideology," said Alan Blinder, a professor at Princeton and a former vice chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. Economics, he added, is "often a triumph of theory over fact."

Blinder helped kindle the discussion by publicly warning in speeches and articles this year that as many as 30 million to 40 million Americans could lose their jobs to lower-paid workers abroad.

Just by raising doubts about the unmitigated benefits of free trade, he made headlines and had colleagues rubbing their eyes in astonishment.

"What I've learned is anyone who says anything even obliquely that sounds hostile to free trade is treated as an apostate," Blinder said.

And free trade is not the only sacred subject, Blinder and other like-minded economists say. Most efforts to intervene in the markets - like setting a minimum wage, instituting industrial policy or regulating prices - are viewed askance by mainstream economists, as are analyses that do not rely on mathematical modeling.

That attitude, the critics argue, has seriously harmed the discipline, suppressing original, creative thinking and distorting policy debates.

"You lose your ticket as a certified economist if you don't say any kind of price regulation is bad and free trade is good," said David Card, an economist at the University of California, Berkeley, who has done groundbreaking research on the effect of the minimum wage.

Most economists are still devoted to what is known as the neoclassical model. Philip Reny, chairman of the economics department at the University of Chicago - the temple of free-market economics - said the theory and methods were "taught to avoid personal biases and conclusions that aren't found in the data."

Like any science, he said, the field changes course slowly: "It requires evidence, and if evidence is there, it will accumulate and positions will move." He added, "I personally have a lot of faith in the discipline."

But as issues like income inequality, free trade and protectionism have become part of the presidential candidates' stump speeches, more thinkers have joined the debate.

In addition to Blinder, other eminent economists like Lawrence Summers and the Nobel Prize winner George Akerlof have pointed out what they see as the failings of laissez-faire economics.


"Economists can't pretend that the consensus for free markets and free trade that existed 30 years ago is still here," said Robert Reich, a public policy professor at Berkeley who served in President Bill Clinton's cabinet.

Part of the reason is the growing income inequality and dislocation that global markets and a revolution in communications have helped create. Economists who question the free-market theories "want to speak to the reality of our time," Reich said.

Meanwhile, critics have also pointed out the limits of standard cost-benefit accounting to measure items like the cost of inequality or damage to the ecosystem.

The degree to which economists wander from the mainstream varies widely.

Dani Rodrik, an economist at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, for instance, said, "I fall into the methods of the mainstream, but not the faith," which he defines as the belief that more markets and free trade are always good and government regulation is always bad.

Thinkers like these may come up with controversial ideas but are hardly marginalized. Other economists, however, go much further, and try to chip away at the field's underlying theoretical foundations. So while Blinder, Card and Rodrik might be considered mere heretics, this second group has earned the label "heterodox."

Although the meaning of the term is slippery, Frederic Lee, an economist at the University of Missouri-Kansas City who edits the Heterodox Economics Newsletter, says it refers to those who reject the neoclassical model, which Milton Friedman helped create, and which Ronald Reagan championed when he took over the White House.

Reny and others point out that the increasing popularity in the mainstream of behavioral economics, which looks at people's complex psychological reactions to events, has offered a fuller picture of how consumers operate in the marketplace. Still, Lee criticizes neoclassical economics for maintaining that the market, if left alone, would ultimately find a happy balance.

He also takes the discipline to task for relying on abstract theories and mathematical modeling instead of observation and sociological analysis.

In Lee's view, for example, oil companies - not the natural workings of the market - determine gas prices.

According to his estimates, 5 to 10 percent of America's 15,000 economists are heterodox, which includes an array of professors on the right and the left (post-Keynesians, Marxists, feminists and social economists).

Heterodox economists complain that they are almost completely shut out by their more influential neoclassical colleagues who dominate most American university departments and prestigious peer-reviewed journals that are essential to gaining tenure.

There are a few university departments where these iconoclasts are welcome, like Amherst in Massachusetts, the New School in New York and Lee's home base, the University of Missouri-Kansas City, but these are exceptions.

The New York Times


 



__._,_.___

[* Moderator's Note - CHOTTALA is a non-profit, non-religious, non-political and non-discriminatory organization.

* Disclaimer: Any posting to the CHOTTALA are the opinion of the author. Authors of the messages to the CHOTTALA are responsible for the accuracy of their information and the conformance of their material with applicable copyright and other laws. Many people will read your post, and it will be archived for a very long time. The act of posting to the CHOTTALA indicates the subscriber's agreement to accept the adjudications of the moderator]




Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

[chottala.com] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Khandakar Mushtaq, my neighbour in Aga Masih Lane -Salahuddin Ayubi !

 Dear Sayed Aslam,
                          Do you think us boy of yesterday? Why do you try blame a hero of war of liberation? late Mustaq Ahmed was a true patriot,a successful politician,great organizer of liberation war, foreign minister of the exile mujibnagar govt and also a successful president
.His contribution in liberation war is beyond any controversy
Those who want to distort the  glorious history of our liberation may say many false story against our hero's , without documentary evidence

Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr. Ayubi
 
Would it have made you much happier if your neighbor Khandakar Mustaq succeeded in his treacherous maneuvers for political settlement with Pakistan with the blessings of Henry Kissinger?
 
[Readers : Details of Mostak's anti liberation conspiracies has been exposed in the book  Muldhara-71, Moyeedul Hasan, University Press Limited, Dhaka).
 
On 1/6/08, ayubi_s786 <ayubi_s786@yahoo.com> wrote:
During the liberation war Khandakar Mushtaq, my neighbour in Aga Masih Lane , did antagonise the
Indian government by meeting the officials of the US mission in Calcutta to discuss about political
settlement with Pakistan
. This infuriated the Indian government so much so that they had to tell our
government in exile not to meet any foreign mission personnel without prior permission from the Indian
government.Sheikh Mujib and Khandakar Mushtaq were contemporaries and close friends and at the same time
adversaries too i.e they ad love hate relationship.While Mushtaq was sly and street smart besides being
able administrator Mujib was brash, brave and knew the pulse of the people. The history will determine the
status of these two individuals on the basis of their performances.
--- "Md. Aminul Islam" < aminul_islam_raj@...
wrote:

  Dear sayed aslam,
   I don't know much about the great leader and foreign minister of acting govt of Bangladesh which
   lead the liberation war of Bangladesh Khondoker  Mustak Ahmed.   After Liberation he was duly honored By Sheikh
   Mujib.He was very important minister in in Mujib's  cabinet.  But India was not happy with him.As he did not
   agree with India on farakka issue.So Mujib gave him another port folio. He played a vital role in the war of our
  Independence as the foreign minister of acting govt
 
    Syed Aslam < Syed.Aslam3@...  wrote:
  Re: [khabor.com ] "Greatest Patriot"
   Khandaker Mostak! Mr. Aminul Islam Raj, what do you
  say?
 
  Khandaker Mostak
 
[Kissinger on Khandeker Mostak group: "we  established contact with the Bangladesh people in Calcutta, and during August, September and October
of this year, no fewer than eight such contacts took  place. We approached Yahya Khan three times in order  to begin negotiations with the Bangladeshi people in alcutta. The government of Pakistan accepted."   :Congressional Records, December 9, 1971, P:45735 ]

 
  The uncouth but treacherous disciple of Jinnah,  the founder of the so-called Islamic state, Pakistan. But lacking Jinnah's education and  grooming, Khandaker Mostak, had been used as a dupe   by the imperialist forces who exploited his naked   political ambition. Due to his unenlightened   character and opportunist bent of mind, Mostak was  more machiavellian than Jinnah. Although Jinnah (personally secular) used Islam to compete with Nehru (he could never be the premier of India) and   instigated communal riots to achieve his political  goals, he did not involve in the murder of his   political colleagues. Whereas Mostak not only   nipped in the bud the mainstream secular politics    in Bangladesh but also ruthlessly murdered his  political colleagues to perpetuate political    recession into Islamic medievalism.   During the liberation war, Mostak opposed by all   means the independence of Bangladesh: he tried to   subvert the provisional government from within as    well as the war of independence through conspiracy  in alliance with the vicious representatives of    imperialism: the CIA and Henry Kissinger. He   instigated all the top Awami league leaders to   undermine and remove Taj Uddin Ahmed from the head   of the provisional government and the leader of the    liberation war. Mostak was also the saboteur of  democracy after the military coup of 1975 backed by   the anti-liberation forces from within and CIA and   Henri Kissinger from without.   An arch hypocrite Mostak always maintained a   shoddy Islamic appearance to veil his essentially    venomous nature. His religious pretense could not  fool Taj Uddin Ahmed. Taj Uddin Ahmed, competent   statesman as he was, had the political acumen to  quash all of Mostak's destructive plots in order to   subvert Bangalees' struggle for independence ( for  details of Mostak's anti liberation conspiracies see   Muldhara-71, Maidul Hasan, UPL). As long as  Tajuddin had the leadership Mostak could not apply   his venoms in the political spheres of the   liberating Bangladesh. All he did was secretly plant   his poison tree. But as soon as Sheikh Mujibur   Rahman took over, he directly fell under the spell   of Mostak's witchcraft: his sycophancy, his Islamic  pretenses. The tragedy of Sk Mujib's life was the   tragedy of desertion. Away from the most crucial   nine months of struggling Bangladesh, Sk Mujib, the invincible nationalist leader, was unaware of the   venomous cobras hidden in the top echelon of his cabinet. Sk Mujib's greatest political  blunder was his progressive distance from Tajuddin   and the secular politicians of his ministry since  his political take over. He never asked Tajuddin how  the war was won and who were the friends and
foes of  the nascent Bangladesh. For the next four years the   vicious Mostak group took Sk Mujib away from his  real comrades at arms who fought all their lives for  the same cause as his: free the Bangalees from the  colonial repression. The more Sk Mujib deserted Tajuddin and his colleagues and associates the more   he lost his popularity, the more he went away from  the hearts of the Banglaees. In 1975 when Sk Mujib   almost lost everything he stood for in 1969 and  completely isolated from the sources of his   political power, the people, and surrounded only by   the sycophants and hypocrites: Mostak inflicted his   deadly blows. Mostak's henchmen killed Sk Mujib, his  family including his eight year son Russell, his   pregnant daughter-in-laws, and relatives. Mostak did not stop in crushing the  icon of Bangalee freedom (Sk Mujib) he ruthlessly   murdered all the key figures for the independence of   Bangladesh (and his political colleagues for last 15   years) in Dhaka Central Jail:   Mostak killed all the key figures involved in   liberating Bangladesh from Pakistan as part of his vicious scheme to make a virtual Pakistan out of    independent Bangladesh . He restored the pro-Pakistani (Islamic) state machinery and set the  ideology for the Muslim oligharchists: the army, the  bureaucracy and the Mohajirs (Muslim settlers from   India after 1947) Mostak will forever be condemned as the enactor of   one the most inhuman ordinances in history: The  Indemnity ordinance of 1975. Thismonstrous ordinance   constitutionally endorses the murderers of Sk  Mujibur Rahman, his family, relatives and top four  national leaders in Dhaka Central Jail. This ordinance also secured the hegemony of the  anti-liberation forces for few decades and  underscored Bangladeshi constitution as the most  inhuman charter.
   Kissinger on Khandeker Mostak group: "we established  contact with the Bangladesh people in Calcutta, and  during August, September and October of this year,
  no fewer than eight such contacts took place. We  approached Yahya Khan three times in order to begin   negotiations with the Bangladeshi people in Calcutta. The government of Pakistan accepted." :Congressional Records, December 9, 1971, P:45735
 


Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. __._,_.___

[* Moderator's Note - CHOTTALA is a non-profit, non-religious, non-political and non-discriminatory organization.

* Disclaimer: Any posting to the CHOTTALA are the opinion of the author. Authors of the messages to the CHOTTALA are responsible for the accuracy of their information and the conformance of their material with applicable copyright and other laws. Many people will read your post, and it will be archived for a very long time. The act of posting to the CHOTTALA indicates the subscriber's agreement to accept the adjudications of the moderator]




Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

[chottala.com] Khandakar Mushtaq, my neighbour in Aga Masih Lane -Salahuddin Ayubi !

Mr. Ayubi
 
Would it have made you much happier if your neighbor Khandakar Mustaq succeeded in his treacherous maneuvers for political settlement with Pakistan with the blessings of Henry Kissinger?
 
[Readers : Details of Mostak's anti liberation conspiracies has been exposed in the book  Muldhara-71, Moyeedul Hasan, University Press Limited, Dhaka).
 
On 1/6/08, ayubi_s786 <ayubi_s786@yahoo.com> wrote:
During the liberation war Khandakar Mushtaq, my neighbour in Aga Masih Lane , did antagonise the
Indian government by meeting the officials of the US mission in Calcutta to discuss about political
settlement with Pakistan
. This infuriated the Indian government so much so that they had to tell our
government in exile not to meet any foreign mission personnel without prior permission from the Indian
government.Sheikh Mujib and Khandakar Mushtaq were contemporaries and close friends and at the same time
adversaries too i.e they ad love hate relationship.While Mushtaq was sly and street smart besides being
able administrator Mujib was brash, brave and knew the pulse of the people. The history will determine the
status of these two individuals on the basis of their performances.
--- "Md. Aminul Islam" < aminul_islam_raj@...
wrote:

  Dear sayed aslam,
   I don't know much about the great leader and foreign minister of acting govt of Bangladesh which
   lead the liberation war of Bangladesh Khondoker  Mustak Ahmed.   After Liberation he was duly honored By Sheikh
   Mujib.He was very important minister in in Mujib's  cabinet.  But India was not happy with him.As he did not
   agree with India on farakka issue.So Mujib gave him another port folio. He played a vital role in the war of our
  Independence as the foreign minister of acting govt
 
    Syed Aslam < Syed.Aslam3@...  wrote:
  Re: [khabor.com ] "Greatest Patriot"
   Khandaker Mostak! Mr. Aminul Islam Raj, what do you
  say?
 
  Khandaker Mostak
 
[Kissinger on Khandeker Mostak group: "we  established contact with the Bangladesh people in Calcutta, and during August, September and October
of this year, no fewer than eight such contacts took  place. We approached Yahya Khan three times in order  to begin negotiations with the Bangladeshi people in alcutta. The government of Pakistan accepted."   :Congressional Records, December 9, 1971, P:45735 ]

 
  The uncouth but treacherous disciple of Jinnah,  the founder of the so-called Islamic state, Pakistan. But lacking Jinnah's education and  grooming, Khandaker Mostak, had been used as a dupe   by the imperialist forces who exploited his naked   political ambition. Due to his unenlightened   character and opportunist bent of mind, Mostak was  more machiavellian than Jinnah. Although Jinnah (personally secular) used Islam to compete with Nehru (he could never be the premier of India) and   instigated communal riots to achieve his political  goals, he did not involve in the murder of his   political colleagues. Whereas Mostak not only   nipped in the bud the mainstream secular politics    in Bangladesh but also ruthlessly murdered his  political colleagues to perpetuate political    recession into Islamic medievalism.   During the liberation war, Mostak opposed by all   means the independence of Bangladesh: he tried to   subvert the provisional government from within as    well as the war of independence through conspiracy  in alliance with the vicious representatives of    imperialism: the CIA and Henry Kissinger. He   instigated all the top Awami league leaders to   undermine and remove Taj Uddin Ahmed from the head   of the provisional government and the leader of the    liberation war. Mostak was also the saboteur of  democracy after the military coup of 1975 backed by   the anti-liberation forces from within and CIA and   Henri Kissinger from without.   An arch hypocrite Mostak always maintained a   shoddy Islamic appearance to veil his essentially    venomous nature. His religious pretense could not  fool Taj Uddin Ahmed. Taj Uddin Ahmed, competent   statesman as he was, had the political acumen to  quash all of Mostak's destructive plots in order to   subvert Bangalees' struggle for independence ( for  details of Mostak's anti liberation conspiracies see   Muldhara-71, Maidul Hasan, UPL). As long as  Tajuddin had the leadership Mostak could not apply   his venoms in the political spheres of the   liberating Bangladesh. All he did was secretly plant   his poison tree. But as soon as Sheikh Mujibur   Rahman took over, he directly fell under the spell   of Mostak's witchcraft: his sycophancy, his Islamic  pretenses. The tragedy of Sk Mujib's life was the   tragedy of desertion. Away from the most crucial   nine months of struggling Bangladesh, Sk Mujib, the invincible nationalist leader, was unaware of the   venomous cobras hidden in the top echelon of his cabinet. Sk Mujib's greatest political  blunder was his progressive distance from Tajuddin   and the secular politicians of his ministry since  his political take over. He never asked Tajuddin how  the war was won and who were the friends and
foes of  the nascent Bangladesh. For the next four years the   vicious Mostak group took Sk Mujib away from his  real comrades at arms who fought all their lives for  the same cause as his: free the Bangalees from the  colonial repression. The more Sk Mujib deserted Tajuddin and his colleagues and associates the more   he lost his popularity, the more he went away from  the hearts of the Banglaees. In 1975 when Sk Mujib   almost lost everything he stood for in 1969 and  completely isolated from the sources of his   political power, the people, and surrounded only by   the sycophants and hypocrites: Mostak inflicted his   deadly blows. Mostak's henchmen killed Sk Mujib, his  family including his eight year son Russell, his   pregnant daughter-in-laws, and relatives. Mostak did not stop in crushing the  icon of Bangalee freedom (Sk Mujib) he ruthlessly   murdered all the key figures for the independence of   Bangladesh (and his political colleagues for last 15   years) in Dhaka Central Jail:   Mostak killed all the key figures involved in   liberating Bangladesh from Pakistan as part of his vicious scheme to make a virtual Pakistan out of    independent Bangladesh . He restored the pro-Pakistani (Islamic) state machinery and set the  ideology for the Muslim oligharchists: the army, the  bureaucracy and the Mohajirs (Muslim settlers from   India after 1947) Mostak will forever be condemned as the enactor of   one the most inhuman ordinances in history: The  Indemnity ordinance of 1975. Thismonstrous ordinance   constitutionally endorses the murderers of Sk  Mujibur Rahman, his family, relatives and top four  national leaders in Dhaka Central Jail. This ordinance also secured the hegemony of the  anti-liberation forces for few decades and  underscored Bangladeshi constitution as the most  inhuman charter.
   Kissinger on Khandeker Mostak group: "we established  contact with the Bangladesh people in Calcutta, and  during August, September and October of this year,
  no fewer than eight such contacts took place. We  approached Yahya Khan three times in order to begin   negotiations with the Bangladeshi people in Calcutta. The government of Pakistan accepted." :Congressional Records, December 9, 1971, P:45735
 
__._,_.___

[* Moderator's Note - CHOTTALA is a non-profit, non-religious, non-political and non-discriminatory organization.

* Disclaimer: Any posting to the CHOTTALA are the opinion of the author. Authors of the messages to the CHOTTALA are responsible for the accuracy of their information and the conformance of their material with applicable copyright and other laws. Many people will read your post, and it will be archived for a very long time. The act of posting to the CHOTTALA indicates the subscriber's agreement to accept the adjudications of the moderator]




Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

[chottala.com] Re: [TriTioMatra] Bleak Future in Bangladesh

Mr. Choudhury you are really doomed,once you supported Dr. Yunus. after you supported this CTG. but you could not know them at the begining.hence you are frustrated now.
 
 but if you want to make some one pass in any subject, he/she must have internal quality to pass in that subject and your suggesstion may help him/her to pass.
 
 But this so called helper army run has no internal quality to pass that was clear to many . but support from some doom  like you had made them over confident .
 
However, Bangladesh is now heading towards anaccident like helper run bus as frequently happen in Bangladesh.
 
  You people are not less responsible for this miserable condition of bangladesh  for your overwhelming support to this nonsense( as sensed by the letter of UN ) CTG.
 




"M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)" <cgmpservices@yahoo.com> wrote:
CTG has missed two warnings from me:

1) I have asked CTG to initiate a reconciliation initiative called " General Amnesty 2007" on July 2007.

2) I have asked CTG to pay more attention to Bangladesh economy than on politics and anti-corruption activities on April 2007.

Many may think why I am going against CTG now. Few may think since they did not listen to my warnings, maybe that's why I am going against them and pointing out their failures. This is not true. I believe that instead of being blind supporter of any party, one should point out the failure even though one supports them.

If CTG never listen criticism from their friends, they will never change the course or make right decision. I always tell that intellectual and intelligent are two different things. One might be intellectual and he or she will not bring any good things until he or she is intelligent and street smart.

Running a country is a huge task, just being a scholar or economist will not help unless he or she is shrewed and understand the local and international politics.

The last point is that if I have no food in my plate to eat, it does not matter who runs the country. This is real facts either we like it or not. It may not hurt me but more than 90% poor and middle class people in Bangladesh are affected because of world inflation and CTG failed policies. If I am a head of a country, I have see the foreseeable future to make earlier prediction, otherwise I am doomed and failed.

I hope things change in Bangladesh otherwise picture is bleak either we support CTG, AWL, BNP or others. Bangladesh has corruption cancer 99% on her body, by giving over dosing prescription, CTG has just killed the body.

Biggest Bleak Warning for Bangladesh!!!!
 
--M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu), USA



Is this CTG is better than Ershad  in case of political party reform and anti corruption drive ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sobhan Allah-  Only Allah flawless 
           Alhamdulillah - All praise to be of Allah 
                   Allah hu Akbar - Allah, the Greatest
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Would Be Mahathir of BD
 


Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. __._,_.___

[* Moderator's Note - CHOTTALA is a non-profit, non-religious, non-political and non-discriminatory organization.

* Disclaimer: Any posting to the CHOTTALA are the opinion of the author. Authors of the messages to the CHOTTALA are responsible for the accuracy of their information and the conformance of their material with applicable copyright and other laws. Many people will read your post, and it will be archived for a very long time. The act of posting to the CHOTTALA indicates the subscriber's agreement to accept the adjudications of the moderator]




Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

Re: [chottala.com] Is something going to happen in our country soon?

*****Mr. Fakkurdin C/A of CTG****
Can think to utilize the idea of BAKSAL system election for solving the present problems & to conduct fair & neutral election by controlling black money influences. BAKSAL was the multi thought forum & was the process to elect real people's representative in fair & neutral election in fair competition of different thought people under the banner of BAKSAL. He can be a strong executer & a good administrator to utilize BAKSAL system administration for building develop Bangladesh by executing Mr Mujib's Ideology
1) Nationalism,
2) Socialism,
3) Secularism 
4) Democracy.
1)       Nationalism means identity of people living in Bangladesh. For identifying nationality needs to maintain record birth & death registers of population. This population register can be recorded in the union council city council municipality offices under the direct control of country's national election commission. According to the register record birth certificates can be issued as national ID to the citizens of Bangladesh for using different purposes including voter Id.
2)       Socialism means maintaining social & economical security for all people by providing them minimum standard of education & by creating jobs facilities by creating facilities for sheltering & health treating.
3)       Secularism means people in Bangladesh can live freely with their own religions faith. Government of Bangladesh will be of the people by the people for the people for establishing justice of law & humanity.
4)       Democracy is the process for forming Government of Bangladesh by election for establishing the Government of the people by the people for the people.
5)       Baksal system election can help for electing real people's representative.
For doing these works in BAKSAL system administration CTG may ask people's mandate by YES & NO VOTE system Election.
 
NB.
AWL doers so called Mujib supporters should not wear Mujib coats causes they feel shy to identify themselves as BAKSAL supporters.
BAKSAL was the latest Mujib's formula for executing his Ideology.
It should be remembered that Mr. Mujib was the people's elected leader so his BAKSAL idea was democratically legal & his Ideology is also democratically mandated.
 
 


hasan md <hasan_eu@yahoo.com> wrote:
There are serious questions arise while an existance Major General attends any biased  discussion forum organised by any controversial corner. Nobody has right to bring in forefront our Army in dangerous position like Pakistan. We don't want Army dictates to bring back 'Democracy'.
 
Please read detail:
 
Thanks.
Hasan

Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com __._,_.___

[* Moderator's Note - CHOTTALA is a non-profit, non-religious, non-political and non-discriminatory organization.

* Disclaimer: Any posting to the CHOTTALA are the opinion of the author. Authors of the messages to the CHOTTALA are responsible for the accuracy of their information and the conformance of their material with applicable copyright and other laws. Many people will read your post, and it will be archived for a very long time. The act of posting to the CHOTTALA indicates the subscriber's agreement to accept the adjudications of the moderator]




Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

[chottala.com] Re: [khabor.com] Irene Khan please ask the Government for establishing Justice of quality education & Justice of Humanity & Human (students & their parents) Right ................seeks explanations on death of indigenous people's leader

Dear Irene Khan
Please ask the Government for establishing Justice of quality education & Justice of Humanity & Human (students & their parents) Right to form an enquiry & tribunal board for investigating to do trial against all persons/teachers/other related persons whether army or political leaders in all University & Education Section
1)       Why are suffering the students in season jots?
2)       Why are not taken regular classes?
3)       Why are not taken examination & not given result in due time?
4)       Why are not honored by the University in abroad the certificates of the students getting from Bangladesh University after obtained degree/graduation??
5)       Why are they treated in abroad as below standard educated persons in comparison with foreign University Graduates??



Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
Irene Khan seeks explanations on death of indigenous people's leader
 
Sun, Jan 6th, 2008 4:39 pm BdST
Tangail, Jan 6 (bdnews24.com) – Amnesty International seeks to know from the government about the death of indigenous people's leader Chalesh Richhil.

"We will ask the government to explain how Chalesh Richhil was tortured and how he died. We will seek explanations on whether investigations are on," Irene Khan, secretary general of the human rights watchdog, told reporters Sunday while visiting BRAC projects in Tangail.

Khan said Amnesty International had taken up the case of Chalesh Richhil.

On the trial procedure of two detained former prime ministers Khaleda Zia and Sheikh Hasina, she said: "Not only the two leaders but every human being has the right to get justice. It is applicable for every citizen. The government has the responsibility in this regard so that people get justice."

The rights leader appreciated people's efforts amid the state of emergency for the protection of human rights.

"It's a great thing," she said.

On the trial of war criminals, Khan said, "I talked about the matter earlier. We will urge the government to try war criminals and the trial should take place in line with the international law."

Khan spoke to the women who took small loans from BRAC in Khudiram village under Korotia union of Tangail Sadar upazila.

Later she visited human-rights education classes and oversaw health education activities conducted by BRAC in Jalfoi area.

bdnews24.com/corr/mi/su/eh/ad/1626 hours
Categories: Bangladesh, Asia And The Pacific, South Asia. Journalist Tasneem Khalil was arrested on 11 May by men from the Joint (army and police) Forces. ...
www.amnesty.org/en/report/info/ASA13/006/2007 - 10k - Cached - Similar pages
 

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com __._,_.___

[* Moderator's Note - CHOTTALA is a non-profit, non-religious, non-political and non-discriminatory organization.

* Disclaimer: Any posting to the CHOTTALA are the opinion of the author. Authors of the messages to the CHOTTALA are responsible for the accuracy of their information and the conformance of their material with applicable copyright and other laws. Many people will read your post, and it will be archived for a very long time. The act of posting to the CHOTTALA indicates the subscriber's agreement to accept the adjudications of the moderator]




Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

[chottala.com] Communal clashes rock Indian state

source:http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/27625E54-6C6C-46DB-993B-ADF9F1680DFF.htm
Communal clashes rock Indian state

A curfew has been imposed in parts of the eastern
Indian state of Orissa after a man was killed and 30
others injured in fighting between Hindus and
Christians.

Continuing clashes since Monday also saw 14 churches
and three Hindu temples damaged.

Naveen Patnaik, the state chief minister, said:
"Enough police both from the state and the central
reserve police force have been deployed in the
affected towns and villages... to maintain order. The
situation is under control."

Curfew is in force in three towns in central Orissa,
with some 800 police deployed and more to follow, the
police said.

Clashes

The fighting ignited on Monday when Christians put up
a temporary arch to commemrate Christmas in Orissa's
Kandhamal district where there has been continued
tensions between the two sides.

Christians later attacked and injured a Hindu leader,
known to resent Christian attempts to convert
low-caste Hindus, police said.

During Tuesday and Wednesday, fighting and rioting
continued sporadically, with Hindu temples and
churches being set alight.

Government buildings and homes were also attacked.

The man who died was a Christian. No one has been
arrested as yet.

A curfew on Wednesday night did not stop further small
fights and stone throwing, although no injuries were
reported.

Controversial conversions

Tensions had been high due to Christian missionaries
finding the majority of their converts from
"untouchable" Hindus - low caste Hindus who still face
significant stigma.

Some hardline Hindus have accused Christian priests of
bribing Dalits and poor tribespeople to convert.

Christian groups say that converts join Christianity
willingly to remove themselves from the Hindu caste system.


____________________________________________________________________________________
Looking for last minute shopping deals?
Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping


[* Moderator's Note - CHOTTALA is a non-profit, non-religious, non-political and non-discriminatory organization.

* Disclaimer: Any posting to the CHOTTALA are the opinion of the author. Authors of the messages to the CHOTTALA are responsible for the accuracy of their information and the conformance of their material with applicable copyright and other laws. Many people will read your post, and it will be archived for a very long time. The act of posting to the CHOTTALA indicates the subscriber's agreement to accept the adjudications of the moderator]

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chottala/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chottala/join

(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
mailto:chottala-digest@yahoogroups.com
mailto:chottala-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
chottala-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:

http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[chottala.com] Online Journals about BIOCHEMISTRY; full text, quality controlled

The list of the BIOCHEMISTRY Journals  throughout the world; free accesable, full text, quality controlled scientific and scholarly journals about BIOCHEMISTRY.
No sign-up, no e-mail, no charge.
Click for the full list
__._,_.___

[* Moderator's Note - CHOTTALA is a non-profit, non-religious, non-political and non-discriminatory organization.

* Disclaimer: Any posting to the CHOTTALA are the opinion of the author. Authors of the messages to the CHOTTALA are responsible for the accuracy of their information and the conformance of their material with applicable copyright and other laws. Many people will read your post, and it will be archived for a very long time. The act of posting to the CHOTTALA indicates the subscriber's agreement to accept the adjudications of the moderator]




Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

[chottala.com] Irene Khan seeks explanations on death of indigenous people's leader

Irene Khan seeks explanations on death of indigenous people's leader
 
Sun, Jan 6th, 2008 4:39 pm BdST
Tangail, Jan 6 (bdnews24.com) – Amnesty International seeks to know from the government about the death of indigenous people's leader Chalesh Richhil.

"We will ask the government to explain how Chalesh Richhil was tortured and how he died. We will seek explanations on whether investigations are on," Irene Khan, secretary general of the human rights watchdog, told reporters Sunday while visiting BRAC projects in Tangail.

Khan said Amnesty International had taken up the case of Chalesh Richhil.

On the trial procedure of two detained former prime ministers Khaleda Zia and Sheikh Hasina, she said: "Not only the two leaders but every human being has the right to get justice. It is applicable for every citizen. The government has the responsibility in this regard so that people get justice."

The rights leader appreciated people's efforts amid the state of emergency for the protection of human rights.

"It's a great thing," she said.

On the trial of war criminals, Khan said, "I talked about the matter earlier. We will urge the government to try war criminals and the trial should take place in line with the international law."

Khan spoke to the women who took small loans from BRAC in Khudiram village under Korotia union of Tangail Sadar upazila.

Later she visited human-rights education classes and oversaw health education activities conducted by BRAC in Jalfoi area.

bdnews24.com/corr/mi/su/eh/ad/1626 hours
Categories: Bangladesh, Asia And The Pacific, South Asia. Journalist Tasneem Khalil was arrested on 11 May by men from the Joint (army and police) Forces. ...
www.amnesty.org/en/report/info/ASA13/006/2007 - 10k - Cached - Similar pages
 
__._,_.___

[* Moderator's Note - CHOTTALA is a non-profit, non-religious, non-political and non-discriminatory organization.

* Disclaimer: Any posting to the CHOTTALA are the opinion of the author. Authors of the messages to the CHOTTALA are responsible for the accuracy of their information and the conformance of their material with applicable copyright and other laws. Many people will read your post, and it will be archived for a very long time. The act of posting to the CHOTTALA indicates the subscriber's agreement to accept the adjudications of the moderator]




Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

[chottala.com] Motiur Rahman Nizami (Moitya Dalal)

 

Motiur Rahman Nizami  (Moitya Dalal)

 

Motiur Nizami, 2004: the mastermind of all political killings and patron of various Mujahedin forces and Jihadist terrorist cells

The chief of operations of the al-Badr (Jamati death squad) forces, Motiur Rahaman Nizami is responsible for the murder of thousands of Bengalis involved in or connected to the liberation war. Son of Khondokar Lutfar Rahman of Monmothpur village under Sathia PS in Pabna district, Motiur has nothing to do with the title Nizami (Nizam means aristocrat i.e. Nizam of Hyderabad, India) at all . Like his other Islamist peers Motiur took up his title Nizami in order to make his name sound respectable, conceal his lowly origin and his base nature. The people of his village hated him so much for his shameless betrayal of his own countrymen that they still call him Moitya Dalal (traitor). Motiur is presently the minister for industries in Khaleda Zia's cabinet--a reward for Motiur's support of the Pakistani hunks Khaleda desrted her husband for in 1971.

Motiur Nizami's War Crimes in 1971

Motiur Nizami in 1971

Motiur carried out a wide range of activities against the Bangladesh liberation war of 1971. Motiur was the president of Jamat's youth front, the Islami Chhatra Sangha (now known as Islami Chhatra Shibir or the Islamic Students' Association). Under Motiur's direct supervision and leadership, the al-Badr (para-militia) force was organised in order to eliminate the freedom fighters and supporters of liberation movement. Motiur was the commander-in-chief of al- Badr forces. Apart from killing the freedom fighters and supporters of liberation movement, the aim of ideological warfare waged by the al-Badr forces was to Islamization (Talibanisation) of Bangladesh. One of the main objectives of al-Badr forces was to short list the secular Bangalee intellectuals and eliminate them. Horrifying stories of killing of intellectuals by Motiur's al-badr forces were published in newspapers, home and abroad, during and after the liberation war.

1. During the war Motiur acted as one of the top Jamati ideologues instigating his cohorts and followers by means of public speech and newspaper articles to support the Pakistani occupation army in killing the freedom fighters and supporters of liberation war. In one of the issues of Daily Sangram, the Jamati mouth piece, Motiur wrote : The day is not far away when the young men of al-Badr, hand in hand with the armed forces, will defeat the Hindu forces (enemies) and raise the victorious banner of Islam all over the world, after the destruction of India. (Daily Sangram Nov 14, 1971)

2. On April 12, 1971, Motiur joined Gholam Azam and other leading collaborators such as Sabur Khan to lead a procession in Dhaka to demonstrate their support for Pakistan. The procession, under the banner of peace committee ended with a special prayer for the victory of Pakistan. (Daily Sangram April 13, 1971).

3. In Jessore, a bordering district, Motiur, in addressing the assembly of the para militia forces at the district head quarter of the Razakar force, said: In this hour of national crisis, it is the duty of every razakar to carry out his national duties to eliminate those who are engaged in war against Pakistan and Islam. (Daily Sangram Sept 15, 1971)

3. People from Motiur's home district, Pabna, have brought allegations against Motiur's direct involvement in killing, rape, arson and lootings. One such person is Aminul Islam Dablu of Brishlika village under the Bera Police Station (in Bangladesh, due to the colonial legacy, all administrative units below districts are organised under a police station, PS, hence all sub-districts are called Thana or PS). Dablu told the commission that his father Mohamed Sohrab Ali was killed on the orders of Motiur. Dablu further said that a number of people from the area were killed on Motiur's orders such as: Profulla Pramanik, Bhadu Pramanik, Manu Pramanik and Shashthi Pramanik. Dablu said there were many eye witnesses to those killings.

4. Abdul Quddus, a freedom fighter from Madhabpur village in Pabna, once spent two weeks in an al-Badr torture cell following his arrest in an uneven war. Quddus said he heard plans to kill freedom fighters and local supporters of the war were discussed and drawn up by al-Badr men under Motiur's supervision.

5. On November 26 a razakar commander named Sattar took Pakistani troops to the Dhulaupara village where 30 freedom fighters were arrested and subsequently killed. As per Quddus's testimony, Sattar carried out the execution on Motiur's order. Quddus told the commission that he managed to attend a secret meeting of al-Badr forces which Motiur presided and gave instructions to kill freedom fighters. In the meeting the al-Badr men listed the houses of Awami League leaders and the bases and hide-outs of the freedom fighters. Motiur sternly ordered his men to finish off Awami League supporters and possible bases and safe houses being used by freedom fighters were identified. Quddus said Motiur gave orders to finish off Awami League supporters and destroy bases of the freedom fighters. The day after the meeting, Al-Badr forces, in cooperation with Razakars, surrounded Brishlika village and burnt it to the ground.

6. Quddus also said Motiur himself bayoneted to death one Bateswar Saha of Madhabpur village in Sathia PS.

7. In Pabna Motiur led the killing of a young freedom fighter Latif and his group. Latif was only 19 years old and a first year student of Pabna Edward College. Latif's small group was captured by the Pakistani occupation army in an uneven combat at Dhuliuri. They were then handed over to Motiur's gang for execution. Motiur's lieutenants publicly slew Latif's co-fighters with big camp knifes especially used for slaughtering bulls for sacrifice (during Islamic festival called korbani) as a part of Islamic ritual. The bastards in Motiur's group celebrated the killing of the captured freedom fighters with cannibalistic zeal. They gouged Latif's eyes, chopped off his genitalia and tied his dead body on a stick at Shanthia (Badshah, a socialist activist was killed in the same way by one of Motiur's top killer gang-JMJB in May 2004, please see Islamist Extremism in Bangladesh page). Latif's father Sufian Paramanik is a witness to his son's brutal murder and the razakars' frenzied outburst of pleasure in killing the brave sons of the soil.

8. Latif's brother Shahjahan Ali, a freedom fighter himself from Madhabpur village, nearly met the same fate. After slaughtering Shahjahan, along with his co-fighters, in Islamic manner, Motiur's people left him taking him for dead. But Shahjahan was a die hard freedom fighter. The slayer's knife could not take his life. Deadly wounded, Shahjahan lay on ground for hours. Foxes smelled at him, dogs bit him. Fortunately his relatives came by before it was too late and saved his life. Motiur's knife could not take Shahjahan's life, but took away his voice: now Shahjahan is paralyzed and can't talk carrying a big scar on his throat-Motiur's  kiss of death.

Verifiable list of people killed by Motiur and his al-Badr forces:

Mohd Sohrab Ali Profulla Pramanik Bhadu Pramanik
Monu Pramanik Shashati Pramanik Bateswar Saha
Freedom fighter Latif 30 freedom fighters in Latif's group Dara
Chand Muslem Akhter
Kabir    

In 1971 Motiur was personally involved in killing of hundreds of Hindus and confiscating their assets and properties. By confiscation and extortion of large amount of money, jewellery and assets from the wealthy Hindu families, Motiur became a millionaire within nine months of the war. During the Sheikh Mujib government (1971-75) Motiur went underground in order to escape conviction as a war criminal. In 1976, as a part of General Zia's razakar rehabilitation program, Motiur resurfaced and took charge as the second in charge of Jamat-e-Islam. Motiur is presently the chief of Jamat-e-Islam.

Besides his involvement in assassination, murder, extortion and confiscation, Nizami is also committed to establish Jamati ideological hegemony (a Maududi version of Islamic fundamentalism ) to perpetuate the Islamic fundamentalism in Bangladesh. Since 1976, thanks to the political backing of the so-called freedom fighter Gen Zia and financial generosity of the Islamic countries like Saudi Arab, Iran and Libya, Motiur and his gang invested millions of dollars to open hundreds of Islamic kindergartens around the country. The syllabi and curricula of those kindergartens are based on the precepts of Maudoodi, the spiritual guru of Jamat-e-Islam. This network of schools enabled Jamat-e-Islam to sustain a huge number of their cadres as employees of those schools. From organizational point of view, those schools are a big success for Jamat-e-Islam: it secured them a sustaining source of income (education is the most thriving business in Bangladeshi cities) and employment for its cadres in education industry. But intellectually those schools cripple the students forever as they teach pre Copernican /Ptolemaic world views, orient them to alien Arabic culture and emotionally invest them with jejune Islamic sentiments. 

Jamat's goal to render intellectual bankruptcy is not confined to pre school stage only. Motiur successfully expanded its mission to the tertiary level as well. Motiur's wife founded an English medium college in the most aristocratic residential area in Dhaka city. The college boasts of having international educational standard as its name indicates " Manarat International College". The off-springs of the Muslim Bangladeshi elites swarm into that so-called English medium college. Manarat is an English medium college in the limited sense that it disseminates its knowledge in English language. But what constitutes its epistemological corpus? Koran and all forms of Arabic medieval precepts. The graduates from Manarat college are apparently smart (as the definition of smart in Bangladesh means ability to speak trash in English) but intellectually and attitudinally medieval: perfect elements for Islamic fundamentalism. Politically Gholam Azams and Mainuddins are feared monsters, but culturally Motiur's and Saidi's are more corrosive and their impact on society is far reaching.

Other crimes by Motiur Nizami

1. After the election in 2001, Motiur Nizami's armed men forced the members of 20 Hindu families in Pagla Haldar Para, part of Nizami's constituency,  to eat beef. (Daily Janakantha 10 Oct 2004)

2. Although Jamat preaches Wahabism its head Nizami gave a lavish Iftar party in the most expensive hotel in Bangladesh (Sonargaon) on 11 November 2003 when the northern districts of Bangladesh were devastated with famine. In the Iftar party Nizami invited top 550 elites of the country and spent 300,000 taka.

 

Maulana Rahmat Ali Bhisti: The portrait of a Jamati leader by late Prof Humayun Azad killed by Nizami-Saidi's goons

 

Reference:

  1. Liberation Museum

  2. Killers and Collaborators of 1971: An Account of Their Whereabouts, compiled and published by the Center for the Development of the Spirit of the Liberation War

  3. Commission on War Criminals of Bangladesh

  4. Saiduzzaman Raushan: Speeches and Statements of Killers & Collaborators of 1971


__._,_.___

[* Moderator's Note - CHOTTALA is a non-profit, non-religious, non-political and non-discriminatory organization.

* Disclaimer: Any posting to the CHOTTALA are the opinion of the author. Authors of the messages to the CHOTTALA are responsible for the accuracy of their information and the conformance of their material with applicable copyright and other laws. Many people will read your post, and it will be archived for a very long time. The act of posting to the CHOTTALA indicates the subscriber's agreement to accept the adjudications of the moderator]




Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___