Why BBC published same news once again?

 

 

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11471184 

4 October 2010 Last updated at 11:53 ET

Bangladesh High Court passes key burka ruling

The court ruled that Bangladesh was predominantly a secular country

 

 

The High Court of Bangladesh has ruled that no-one can be forced to wear the burka, or full Islamic headdress.

This follows a similar but more limited ruling in August that women could not be forced to wear the burka at work or in schools or colleges.

 

Correspondents say the move is the latest sign of the judiciary's support for the government's attempts to pursue a more secular agenda.

 

The governing Awami League prides itself on its secular credentials.

 

It says that it wants to challenge the power of Islamic conservatives.

 

The court ruled that "secularism is one of the four principles of the constitution... and no-one can be forced to wear religious attire in the secular state".

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-----Original Message-----
From: ANDREWL <turkman@sbcglobal.net>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Oct 4, 2010 4:33 am
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Burqa can't be forced: High Court

 

You mean, you did not write, "Those who want to be "Practicing Muslims" need to observe hijab [ Source: Al Qur'an 24:30-31]".
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The Question is, why are you lying?
Where the hell this Verse says, what you wrote if you have not mis-interpreted it?
You must think, I do not know Arabic and am just like you believing in whatever my Mollaa says.
If you are right, tell me, why our Prophet's own Wives and Daughters did not cover their faces or wore a Borqaa?
Who the hell are you trying to fool here?

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, qrahman@... wrote:
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> Please explain what do you mean by "Big pagri Mollah of yours"? Did I ever promoted any "Big pagri" mollahs in any of my mails? For your information I am from Bangladesh, I am worried about my country. You need to go to an Indian forum or Pakistani forum if you have anything to say to them or wanna ask them about their Supreme court.
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> The translations were not mine and anytime I say anything from the Qur'an, I offered source (verse and chapter) and most of the time give web links to them as well. I have NOT done any "mis-translation" here. Actually I have not done ANY translation at all. Only quoted most popular translations of the Qur'an.
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> I do not think you need to get personal with any of our discussions. If my point of view or part of the Qur'an is not your "Cup of tea", you need not to answer.
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> You need to POINT OUT where did I "Mis-translated or mis-interpreted" the Qur'an. Otherwise need not to slander anyone without any solid proof.
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> Fact is your uncivilized post ( With imaginary accusations) does not change who I am. But it says a whole lot about who you are.
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> Shalom!
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> --qr
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ANDREWL <turkman@...>
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2010 1:01 pm
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Burqa can't be forced: High Court
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> grahman wrote: " ... we need to understand that men or women should NOT be forced to go against religion either ...".
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> TURKMAN: But we need to understand that men or women are NOT being forced to go against religion either. We are going against "FORCING" them to follow something that is not a part of Religion because nowhere in Qoraan, Allah had said to wear a Borqa. Our Prohet's own wives never wore it because it was not even invented. All his wives never hid their faces either. If its a part of Islam, why all those big Pagri Mollaas of yours could not prove this case in Indian Supreme Court?
> Why they lost this case?
> Because your mis-translations and mis-interpretations of Qoraan and HaDees did not work there. There were Arabic Speaking Moslim Olma, who said opposite of what you Mollaas were saying.
> Stop your B.S. sir ...!
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, qrahman@ wrote:
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> > The link did not bring any web page. Like you I do not think one should be force to follow any specific religion ( Islam or otherwise). Having said that, we need to understand that men or women should NOT be forced to go against religion either (Like the previous military regime in Turkey). Turkey,UAE and Malaysia are good role models we can follow when we talk about religion. All citizens of those countries have freedom to follow or not follow any particular religion.
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> > As far as burqa is concern, most scholars of Islam says covering face is NOT mandatory in Islam. However almost all prominent scholars of Islam says "hijab" is required by Islam. Those who want to be "Practicing Muslims" need to observe hijab [ Source: Al Qur'an 24:30-31] for modesty (Certain rules applies for men as well). The first command about hijab was directed towards men. Albeit we generally think it is only at women, men needs to follow hijab [ etiquette] as well.
> >
> > Please click here to get answers to frequently asked questions on this topic. [ Source: http://www.islam101.com/women/hijabfaq.html]
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> > For related information, please click here.
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> > As I said multiple times before, Islam (Or any other ideology) should not be forced but it is also important for Muslims to have clear understanding of their own religion.
> >
> > Shalom.
> >
> > --qr
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@>
> > To: Alochona Alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2010 4:05 am
> > Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Burqa can't be forced: High Court
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> > Many people think that secularism is a grey (as opposed to the 'black' of the burqa) burlap sack that you can whack over a person's head.
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> > A black burqa is a very good thing for Muslims, they say.
> > It can put a ink-blot over the person's existence and obliterate the person's humanity. That is supposedly a very Islamic thing to do,
> > though there is no Qur'anic injunction or dress-code for the purpose of blotting out the humanity of a person.
> >
> > This grey burlap sack called secularism, they say, is an evil thing that can be 'imposed' and can make you look like
> > the devil incarnate otherwise known as Hindu. This sack is rumored to be outfitted with a devilish mechanism
> > that can make the whole religion of Islam disappear from the realm in a twinkle of an eye!
> >
> > They also say that this devil incarnate Hindu should be eliminated from the land by any means. The means
> > may take the form of mass murder but if that is what it takes to do the job there should not be any hesitation .
> > Anybody showing tendencies like a Hindu should be eliminated. This Hindu Hasina should take heed. Her father was wiped out.
> > "Did not hindu hasina learned anything from her Father"?
> >
> > Did not hindu hasina learned anything from her Father?
> >
> > However, the people who speak in the above language have not been able to provide a sample of the grey burlap sack
> > called secularism that can be 'imposed' over people's head and that can make Islam disappear in a twinkle of an eye.
> >
> > Until they do, we have the Holy Qur'an to turn to for guidance, solace and fortitude. In this holy month of Ramadan,
> > time for penance and self-purification, we should recognize that the above talk is itself a kind of 'covering' or clothing
> > or 'lebas'. And the Qur'an warns us to be wary of these attempts at falsehoods:
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> > "Wa la talbisu al Huqqa bi-l batili wa taktumoo ul Huqqa wa antum taAlamuna" 2:42.
> > (And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor coceal the Truth when ye know whar it is)
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> > For those who want be sure that there is no Qur'anic mandate for women to wear the burqa or the hijab,
> > please read the following article which was published in the Daily Star, and then archived by the Islamic
> > Reasearch Foundation Information.
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> > Fashioning lies, veiling the truth
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> > Farida Majid As the hijab issue heats up in France and Germany, and the psychological pressure and the brainwashing of women intensifies all over the Muslim world, the feverish ...
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> > irfi.org/articles/articles_201_250/fashioning_lies.htm · Cached page
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> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > From: qrahman@
> > Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:38:27 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Burqa can't be forced: High Court
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> > I think burqa should not be forced but the new law does not have some "Common sense" exceptions. For Islamic institutions "Islamic" dress should be enforced (That may include Burqa if the local community feels right about it). Albeit there are difference of opinion among scholars if Burqa is mandatory in Islam or not. Most scholars think "Hijab" covers Islamic requirements for women.
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> > While I agree Burqa should not be forced but secularism should not be forced on our people either. Maybe experts should be looking into the verdict more to ensure some "Activist" judges going overboard or not. There are some concerns from liberal groups about civil rights in another ruling regarding Shaheed minar.
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> > Personally I feel that, God created us as "FREE" men and women and gave us freedom to obey or disobey Him. Therefore, we should encourage honest and open discussions/debates about religion. Blaming everything Islamic TODAY for what some Jamaat-e-Islami leaders did 40 years ago does not seem fair or logical to me.
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> > Peace.
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mo Assghar <moassghar@>
> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, Aug 24, 2010 9:02 am
> > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Burqa can't be forced: High Court
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> > But Secularism can be forced? Give me a break!!
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> > Did not hindu hasina learned anything from her Father?
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> >
> > --- On Mon, 8/23/10, Isha Khan <bdmailer@> wrote:
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> >
> > From: Isha Khan <bdmailer@>
> > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Burqa can't be forced: High Court
> > To:
> > Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 2:36 AM
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> > Burqa can't be forced: High Court
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> > The court also ordered relevant officials to explain why forcing girls to wear burqa (veil) and keeping them out of sports and cultural activities were illegal.
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> > Dhaka, Aug 22 (bdnews24.com)â€"The High Court has ruled that no women can be forced to wear burqa at work and educational institutions. In it's ruling The High Court on Sunday in a suo moto order directed the government to ensure that no women were forced to wear veil or religious dress in the educational institutions and offices.
> >
> > The court also ordered the government to ensure that the cultural activities and sports in the educational institutions are not restricted.The orders came in the wake of a public interest petition filed by Supreme Court lawyers Mahbub Shafi and A K M Hafizul Alam on Sunday. The bench of justices A H M Shamsuddin Chowdhury and Sheikh Mohammad Zakir Hossain also ruled that they cannot be barred from taking to culture and sports
> >
> > The court also ordered relevant officials to explain why forcing girls to wear burqa (veil) and keeping them out of sports and cultural activities were illegal.
> >
> > The A Bengali daily news item said that principal of the college in Natore ( Northern Bangladesh ) has stopped any cultural activities and sports at the college and forced female students to wear Borka or veil in the college.The HC also directed principal of the college Mozammel Haque to appear before the HC bench on August 26 to explain the matter.
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> > It also issued a rule upon the government to explain why imposition of restriction on cultural activities and sports in the educational institutions and offices and forcing the female students to wear veil should not be declared illegal.
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> > Secretaries to the ministries of home, education, social welfare and women affair and principal Mozammel Haque has been made respondent to the rule and orderThe education, home, social welfare, and women and children affairs secretaries and principal of Rani Bhabani Mohila College Mozammel Huq were asked to reply to ruling. Following a brief hearing, the court also asked the principal to appear before it on Aug 26.
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> > The lawyers in their petition on Sunday cited a report carried by a Bengali newspaper the same day headlined, 'Burqa mandatory at Rani Bhabani Mohila College'. The lawyers stated such enforcement was discriminatory.
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> > http://newsfrombangladesh.net/view.php?hidRecord=332264
> >
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Most of the private universities are doing higher education certficate selling bussiness.. The children of corrupt money earning people are getting false certificate of false education higher degree from the private Universities. In the name of education  actually they are not getting any education at all. By the dint of false certificate of false education  they are capturing key points  & higher positions inleu of corrupt money & corrupt  higher educatin certifiacte & are for doing more corruption works & are making Bangladesh a Chur Chamareir Desh & making Dhaka city a worst city in the world. Making money inflation  every thing price hiking by devaluing money value. It is requested that   Education department of Bangladesh should close all private universities & should control higher education that higher education should not be for all . Higher education must be according to the requiremment & according to the merit. But nation wide child education for all children & nation wide quality work education for all professional people must be compulsory The education money should be deducted or minimise for higher education but education money for child education & profession education must be increased for building digital Bangladesh to establish founding father's dream Amar Sonar Bangla to establish socio-economical justice in Bangladesh. Joy Bangla Joy Bangabhundu.. --- On Mon, 4/10/10, Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com> wrote: From: Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com> Subject: Warm wishes To: "KMS Alam" <kms_alam@yahoo.com>, "nizam ahmed" <nizam.reuters@gmail.com>, "M. Sayeed Alam" <sbl.dhk@gmail.com>, "Ferhat Anwar" <syed.ferhat.anwar@gmail.com>, "Alam Mahmudul" <alam_mahmudul@yahoo.com>, "Enamul Haque" <akehaque@gmail.com>, "Badrul Khan, Ph.D." <badrulkhan2003@yahoo.com>, "Engr. 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S. M. Maksud Kamal Including People with Disabilities in Development--Nancy Rollinson Private University Act: Implementation is more challenging --Abdul Mannan Nationalism's Last Frontier --Quazi Zulquarnain Islam Forum Archives Send your comments   Forum Home   Private University Act: Implementation is more challenging ABDUL MANNAN seeks practical implementation of the Private University Act-2010. STAR PHOTO In spite of the fact that the government promulgated the new Private University Act-2010 on July 18, 2010, there has been the occasional and unnecessary sabre-rattling by some quarters and a section of the media with its version of incomplete information or facts based on either half or no truth. Such actions create unnecessary confusion amongst the founders, students, guardians and faculty members of private universities. The last such sabre-rattling was done on August 18, exactly one month after the promulgation of the Act. In a meeting at the Education Ministry, presided over by the Education Minister Nurul Islam Nahid M.P., himself, and attended by the Chairman of the University Grants Commission (UGC) and a few representatives of the private universities, quoting the UGC Chairman, it was reported in a section of the local media that all private universities located in Dhanmnodi will have to be shifted soon or they will face closure. However, in the official minutes of the meeting, nowhere had it been mentioned that any such decision was ever taken. It was only decided that the government could restrict the establishment of any private university in particular areas or places in the interests of the environment and security and public interest. This sounds more logical and rational. It would be more rational if this decision is made enforceable only to those universities that will be established after the new Act comes into force. On the subject of Dhanmondi, many residents of this area (I am one of them) will perhaps express a sigh of relief if Dhanmondi regains its original residential character through removal of, first, all the shopping centres, shops, hospitals, diagnostic clinics from the area; and then the educational institutions, beginning with about two dozen schools and innumerable private coaching centres. Many of these were established long before the private universities came. However, one will acknowledge that this is neither practical nor feasible. Wherever you have a hundred families living, you will need schools and other educational institutions, along with windows providing the basic utilities like health care. Dhanmondi area has about a dozen private universities, some on their own premises, of which at least three have custom made state of the art buildings with built-in high quality facilities (UIU, SUB and ULAB). The new Act makes it compulsory for a private university in Dhaka to have at least one acre of one-piece land (I still wonder why the measurement is not in square metre per student) to function, but in reality it will be practically impossible to have one acre for each of 47 odd universities operating in Dhaka. The government should think of coming out to facilitate the private universities by creating a zone for setting up private universities like it often does for certain types of industries. The government has, in the meantime, created such zones for the IT and tannery industry and there are even proposals for creating such zones for the growing readymade garments industries. All these are very important steps for a healthy growth in these sectors, but nothing could be more helpful for national development than creating an education zone. Before going further, let me share some insights into what is happening to our big neighbour, India, in the university education sector. According to the participants at a conference held last June in Washington DC, it was appreciated that India's so-called "demographic dividend" of a younger population compared to developed countries is as much an opportunity as it is a challenge. A Wharton Business School feature on the issue says "the task of meeting global talent needs with an educated and trained workforce is too huge for any one nation to take on." Business leaders and government officials from US and India at the conference attempted to size up the challenge and find ways to deal with it. The conference was organised by the US-India Business Council (USIBC). Recognising that 35 percent of the world's illiterate live in India (almost half of the world's illiterate are in South Asia of which 97 percent live in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh), the speakers at the conference drew a roadmap to get 30 percent of India's 240 million school children into higher education over the next decade, up from the current 12.4 percent. For this, India is planning to build new colleges and universities, both in the public and private sectors. India at present has 480 universities and 22,000 colleges. In the next 10 years, it will need 700 new universities and 35,000 new colleges. India has announced infrastructure build-outs worth more than US$ 1.5 trillion over the next five years. All this information comes from no less than Kapil Sibal, India's minister for human resource development, speaking as a key resource person at the conference. STAR PHOTO As India has become the back office for many US multinationals and domestic corporations, US has extended its hand of collaboration to India to build up its higher education. Last fall, US government provided a US$ 300,000 grant to its Institute of International Education to create a two-year academic partnership programme between American universities and their counterparts in India and China. Last October, US officials hosted 50 university leaders from India to discuss collaborations in education. While all these are taking place in our neighbour's house, how foolish is it of us to talk of closing down universities? No wonder, previously the Bangladeshi media carried ads of many third grade colleges and schools of other countries, excepting India. Now India has been added to the list. The more we shut down the more they open. As it has happened with our Adamjee Jute Mills, we closed one, India opened six new jute mills in the same year. The new Private University Act-2010 took about seven years to formulate and though it is not totally foolproof, it is much more balanced than the one that was talked about. Any law will always have room for improvement. Implementing the law is much more challenging than framing it. Shooting the target with a gun needs competence rather than assembling the armament! Amongst the 53 private universities operating in Bangladesh, the perpetrators are many. Some offer courses for which they are least qualified, having no qualified faculties, no labs and no libraries. Some have a student size three times larger than they can hold, turning classes into sweatshops. A particular "university" has three Vice-Chancellors, all claiming to be authentic! There is an allegation that at least one has outsourced a couple of its departments to a "conman" who runs it as his private grocery shop. One has taken such a grocery shop to the northern part of the country. The class loads of teachers in quite a few private universities are extraordinarily high. I was amazed to learn that in some of these "universities", junior teachers are expected to teach five to six different courses, the pay is poor and the morale of faculty members is very low. They have to punch cards upon entering into the building and do not have any service rules, and the authorities forbid the use of university facilities for research. If the students do not turn up for a particular class, the teachers lose their payment. This is not how a university should be run. The enacted law has enough ammo to clamp down on all these and other perpetrators. The UGC just needs to use them pragmatically and judiciously without threatening to close down any one of them, excepting the ones that have more than one person as a vice-chancellor or the ones that grossly violate the Act. The oldest private university in the country is 18 years old and the youngest just five. All should not be weighed on the same scale for their compliances and normal activities like opening new departments or new admissions, and should not be affected on grounds such as not having a permanent campus. I still believe a permanent campus should not be one of the prime requisites for any seat of learning. Even the London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE) and many such institutions of repute in Europe and US have some of their academic programmes run from rented premises. The emphasis should be on whether learning and teaching is taking place properly. Even if one particular university is lacking on this count, the UGC should right away announce its name to the public so the guardians are careful while selecting institutions for their children's higher education. A few perpetrators should not be allowed to blemish the image of the entire sector. Though late, one commendable decision taken in the last meeting was on setting up an independent Accreditation Council. However, this Council should do the job of accreditation (quality assurance) for all the universities together, both public and private. This will surely enhance competition for excellence in the higher education sector. The history of private universities in this country is hardly a decade and a half old. Presently, about 47 percent of all university students go to private universities. With a 24 percent growth rate within the next five years, they are expected to overtake the public universities in student enrolment. In this short period of time, some have performed quite well, while others are trying their best to catch up. For a country like Bangladesh, it will not be possible to put all the responsibility of providing higher education entirely on the government. Higher education anywhere is expensive, and for any meaningful progress to be made, private initiative in this sector must be encouraged. Bangladesh has been ranked 88th among the "best" 100 countries in the world recently by the international news magazine Newsweek. The ranking is based on such indicators as education, health, quality of life, economic competitiveness and political environment. Two other countries in the region have done better than us, Sri Lanka (66th) and India (78th). This may not be a very big achievement for Bangladesh, but it is not mean either, considering the size and population of the country, its multifaceted problems, and the fact that it has been ruled by military and pseudo military rulers for half the period of its existence as a free nation. To improve its performance, we must collectively take care of our education, both in the public and private sectors; the other indicators will take care of themselves. The world is shifting. We cannot live with archaic ideas and outdated thinking. With 160 million people living in Bangladesh, there is an opportunity for "demographic dividend." We just need to be a bit realistic and make appropriate roadmaps to bridge the talent gap by making our higher education system and its administration more useful. To begin with, we should stop unnecessary sabre-rattling and start implementing the Act with rationality and logic and without prejudice of any sort. Let the good and promising ones thrive and gross perpetrators be punished. Abdul Mannan is former Vice-Chancellor, University of Chittagong and currently teaches at ULAB, Bangladesh. © thedailystar.net, 2010. All Rights Reserved -- _________________________________ Abdul Mannan Professor School of Business University of Liberal Arts Bangladesh House # 56, Road # 4/A Dhanmondi R/A, Dhaka-1209 Bangladesh. BDT=GMT +6 Working Days Sunday-Thursday E-mail: abman1971@gmail.com  http://www.ulab.edu.bd

 

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