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Tuesday, January 17, 2012

Re: [chottala.com] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Serajur Rahman on BNP's agitation



"For building Bangladesh as a good Nation under the system of Real Democracy Administration"
(1)
The people of Bangladesh for selecting the political leaders to electing by casting their votes in election are needed to be quality knowledge educated Voters to understand
a)      the meaning of Independence
b)      the  meaning of democracy  
(2)
For fair neutral politics for the politicians to do real politics in democracy system for people of the people and by the people The Article 70 in Bangladesh constitution must be cancelled.
(3)
All University Teachers and teachers of educational institutions need to be honest to learn honestly the truth for teaching the students to establish humanity and human right to establish justice of law to establish economical justice for all people of Bangladesh under lawful administration in the system of lawful democracy in Bangladesh.
(4)
It is very important
(i)                  For justice of law
(ii)                For justice of humanity
(iii)               For justice of democracy and
(iv)              For justice of human right 
To do lawful trial in lawful judicial procedure of activities
(a)          People killing and student killing in Bangladesh educational institutions
(b)      Corruption doing in all over Bangladesh Administration
(c)        False speaking and neglecting duty and not taking classes and not teaching the student properly in Bangladesh educational institutions.
(d)        People misleading by writing any matter misinterpreting in Bangladesh

 
 



From: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2012 2:12 AM
Subject: [chottala.com] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Serajur Rahman on BNP's agitation

 
           During the past 25 years Bangladeshi voteres never supported a single party for two consequitive terms. That is an unique charecteristics of Bangladeshi
inteligent voteres. My understanding is that trend willcontinue as long as Hasina and Khaleda remain active in politics. Our leaders understand their
mistakes when they are thrown out of power by the people. While in power Chatuker's encircle them and they become out of touch with the reality.
hasina is encircled by Chatukers now, make no doubt about it.That's why Sheikh Hasina recently commented that, whatever nespapers and talk show hosts are talking  about current situation in Bangladesh aren't true.When a leaderr become out of touch with reality they comment this way.
          I am confident that the way Hasina treated her opponents during her current tenure,  she will face similar treatment by her opponent politician,  Do you
agree ? We have to remember that Bangladeshi voters are divided and support two major parties Awami League and BNP. Naturally honeymoon with the  ruling party reduces within two/three years of their rule.So Voteres honeymoon  with Hasina administration is over now. They want action not word what's still missing in reality.
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: Anis Ahmed <aanis06@yahoo.com>
To: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>,  "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>,  "chottala@yahoogroups.com" <chottala@yahoogroups.com>,  "anis.ahmed@netzero.net" <anis.ahmed@netzero.net>
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Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Serajur Rahman on BNP's agitation
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:00:50 -0800 (PST)

In  order to objectively look at the facts one has to look at the achievements and failures of all concerned . You seem to be strongly critical of Sheikh Hasina and her Awami League and sound sympathetic to Khaleda Zia who unleashed a reign of terror between 2001 and 2006. Unfortunately our people's memory is so short that they only look at the present flaws and overlook the past misdeeds. Both the leaders have done innumerable mistakes for which they had to pay price in the past . We cannot forget the countrywide bomb blast , the 21st august political mayhem for which the then party in power and their Islamic militants were responsible. These are historical facts . Besides one may not forget the dishonesty and corruptions of the sons of  General Zia , who was undoubtedly personally and honest man but politically a very dishonest leader. These facts need to be understood objectively.
 
As far Sheikh Hasina's Awami League  is concerned , for their failure to fulfill electoral promises they may also suffer at the hands of voter. Bengalee voters have never failed to punish BNP and AL whenever they failed to govern in a democratic manner. Let's prepare a balance sheet of the achievements and failures of these parties and let the voters decide through ballots.
 

From: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
To: aanis06@yahoo.com; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com; anis.ahmed@netzero.net
Cc: dahuk@yahoogroups.com; shahanara.rahman@yahoo.com; guhasb@gmail.com; captchowdhury@yahoo.ca; srbanunz@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Serajur Rahman on BNP's agitation

Mr. Anis,
 
Awami rubber stamp  Judge cancelled the allotment of Khaleda Zia's house at the cantonment duly passed by the Parliament.
She didnot occupy this house by force or by personal influence rather elected Parliament offered this to the widow of one of the most honest
Presaident of medern time. Sheikh Hasina tried unsuccessfully to occupy Ganabhabon . Her Chamchas advised her grab the Gonobhobon.
The reason I said that Hasina will cry because se did lot of misdeeds and injustices to lot of people and not only evicting her enemy Khaleda Zia from the alotted house.
Allah knows best and will do justice to Hasina too if she did it intentionally so that Khaleda Zia cries.
My question to you: Why you are sympathetic to Hasina and always try to protect her. She is destroying the nations
democratoic institutions. Are you a supporter of BKSAL/ Awami League ?
 Nation is suffering as a result of her misrule. Sooner she leaves the office better for the nation and its poor citizens.
My understanding is that,  When Hasina learns it will be too late to correct her deeds.
 
 
 
 
 
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Anis Ahmed <aanis06@yahoo.com>
To: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Serajur Rahman on BNP's agitation
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:28:33 -0800 (PST)

I am sure Hasina will cry too if she illegally occupies an official  house , after getting a compensatory house on the death of her  husband. Hasina , in her last days of the last term , tried to stay in Ganabhabhan and she was very much criticized . Although she never got any compensation from any government on her father's death . She rather donated the house she inherited to a museum .
 
If Mrs Zia was intelligent enough , she could have left the cantonment house and move to the other house which was allotted to her after General Zia's death .
 
I wish Hasina learns a lesson from  Khaleda Zia's  lack of sincerity and wisdom .
 
 

 

From: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:07 PM
Subject: Fw: [notun_bangladesh] Serajur Rahman on BNP's agitation

The way Khaleda Zia cried, Hasina will cry in similar fashion INSHALLAH in coming days.
History repeats itself.

---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: [notun_bangladesh] Serajur Rahman on BNP's agitation
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:43:10 +0600

 
Serajur Rahman on BNP's agitation



http://dailynayadiganta.com/details/22535
http://sonarbangladesh.com/blog/post/86881
 
 
 


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Re: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon



Many thanks to Mr. Anis for teaching me English. I will defintely enroll myself in English language course if he establish English Language Training School . I can't accept his notion that Awami League and BKSAL(Bangladesh Krishok Sromik Awami League is different. Who believe in Awami Leagues idiology  should accept the BKSAL idiology created by its founder otherwise he/she will betray the creator of this idiology. Sheikh Shaheb's daughter current Prime mInister defintely  didn't re establishef her father's dream project BKSAL but established  most of the requeirements of a  BKSAL regime  during the past three years of her misrule,  only thing she didn't introduce is the name BKSAL.
BK Jahangir another close relative of of Munatsir Mamun also  another benificiery like  Muntasir Mamun from Hasina asdministration.
I am not a  Scholar in English  like Mr. Anis,  but at least I can explain my position( in poor English) to the readers.
Last question Mr. Anis: What is your concept of BKSAL, Are you a supporter of this great idiology  ?
 
 
-------- Original Message ----------
From: Anis Ahmed <aanis06@yahoo.com>
To: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>,  "chottala@yahoogroups.com" <chottala@yahoogroups.com>,  "dahuk@yahoogroups.com" <dahuk@yahoogroups.com>,  "nabic@yahoogroups.com" <nabic@yahoogroups.com>,  "ovimot@yahoogroups.com" <ovimot@yahoogroups.com>,  "shahanara.rahman@yahoo.com" <shahanara.rahman@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:54:25 -0800 (PST)

I am amazed and indeed amused that Mr Anwar's understanding of English language is so poor that he says that I mentioned , "Professor Muntaisir Mamun is a believer of one party rule BKSAL" . Where did I say this ? Why does Mr Anwar misquotes me if his understanding of English is utterly inadequate.  I wrote , "His support for one party does not bar him from the scholarly reputations and the wide exploration of history of Dhaka , that he has done." Does this one party mean , one party rule ? Does it mean BAKSAL ? Where does he get these information from. He should know that one party in English language means a party. I wanted to mean that his support for a party does not mean .............. Mr Anwar should better start writing in Bangla and not in English if he consistently fails to understand and interpret the language and makes innumerable errors in his own writing.

Let it be made clear that Professor Mamun is not a BAKSALITE. Secondly equating Awami League with BAKSAL is a wrong notion, Thirdly if Mr Anwar has not seen Professor Muntasir Mamoon's criticism of Awami League , it his lack of knowledge and finally even if he supports AL that does not undermine his intellectual and moral stand about the trial of the war criminals . He is a relative of Dr Mohiuddin Khan Alamgeer : is this an argument for undermining him . He is also a relative of Dr Burhanuddin Khan Jahangir who had once opposed the BAKSAL . So do these logically mean anything?

More importantly , Dr Mohiuddin Khan Alamgeer was never a BAKSALITE. He is a reputed economist himself . His affliation with Awami League or any other party does not weigh him down as a learned economist .

Mr Anwar , may I request you to reread some of your sentences before you post them because both for lexical and syntactical errors they at times fail to convey any meanings. It's high time that you may give a good try for writing in Bangla, instead in English which apparently is not your cup of tea.

Thanks


From: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
To: aanis06@yahoo.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com; dahuk@yahoogroups.com; nabic@yahoogroups.com; ovimot@yahoogroups.com; shahanara.rahman@yahoo.com
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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon

Many thanks to Mr. Anis for informing   us that , Professor Muntaisir Mamun is a believer of one party rule BKSAL. That's my point to explain that how came a person be
democratic while supporting one party rule.
I never saw him criticising any Awmi policy, I believe he is a blind supporter of BKSAL and later Awami League. That's his choice and right I respect that.I will always fight for that right but will never become  BKSALI Like him.. But still a BKSALI is always a BKSALI. Althouh he officially he is not a member of Awami League like his close relative Mohiuddin Khan Alamgir, he a leading fegure of Awami Intellectuals.ratic society.
BKSALIs(believers of one party rule) should have no place in multi party democratic society. 
 
 
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Anis Ahmed <aanis06@yahoo.com>
To: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:32:08 -0800 (PST)

This information is utterly  untrue . He may be a relative of an Awami League leader or he may have sympathy towards Awami League but he is thoroughly an honest man and also a critic of Awami League . His support for one party does not bar him from the scholarly reputations and the wide exploration of history of Dhaka , that he has done.
 
The most important point is Muntassir Mamun has always stood for the cause of Bangladesh and its liberation . He is one of the pioneering persons in demanding the trial of the War Criminals . The problem with these kinds of propaganda mongering email is this that they are aimed at slinging muds on some people simply because they think more progressively. It's like Iranian democracy where you preselect people through screening by Mullahs and then decide who will compete.

From: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com; chhaygaon@hotmail.com; manik195709@yahoo.com; aanis06@yahoo.com
Cc: chottala@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 12:19 PM
Subject: RE: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon

FYI: Professor Muntasir Mamun a close relative of senior awami leaguer Mohiuddin Khan Alamgir and a diehard supporter of BKSAL/Awami league.
His commentery always support Awami policy and he is busy in appeasing Sheikh Hasina's policy. He deserves Halua-Ruti from current government. 

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Md. Abdul Quddus Khan" <chhaygaon@hotmail.com>
To: <chottala@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:06:37 +0300

 
Thank you very much for your valuable advise for the "University Teachers". I would like to add few words in addition to your advise that all teachers from all levels of academic institutions are suppose to be honest. They have right to be a member of any political party as s/he wants to be but, they should not be dishonest and blind supporter of his / her party or leader. As we know the education is the back bone of a nation. We have a lot of dishonest teacher and that is why our back bone is weak and we can't stand straight in front of other nations.
 
 

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From: dina30_khan@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:55:04 -0800
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon

 
All University Teachers need to be honest to learn honestly the truth for teaching the students to establish humanity and human right to establish justice of law to establish economical justice for all people under lawful administration system of lawful democracy in Bangladesh.
It is very important
(i)                  For justice of law
(ii)                For justice of humanity
(iii)               For justice of democracy and
(iv)              For justice of human right 
To do lawful trial in lawful judicial procedure of activities
(a)      People killing and student killing in Bangladesh educational institutions
(b)      Corruption doing in all over Bangladesh Administration
(c)        False speaking and neglecting duty and not taking classes and not teaching the student properly in Bangladesh educational institutions.
(d)        People misleading by writing any matter misinterpreting in Bangladesh.
It should be condition for justice of law and humanity in Bangladesh for doing trial against them who did oppose creation of Bangladesh

 

From: Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
To: alapon@yahoogroups.com; khabor@yahoogroups.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com; EMEDCH-L@usc.edu; diagnose <Diagnose@yahoogroups.com>; Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 6:30 AM
Subject: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon

 
Link to Dr. Muntasir Mamoon's column on Chatra League.

Mannan

http://www.dailyjanakantha.com/news_view.php?nc=16&dd=2012-01-15&ni=83302

--
_________________________________
Abdul Mannan
Educator-Researcher-Writer-Analyst
Dhaka
Bangladesh



 
 
 
 


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[chottala.com] Trial of Ghulam Azam



Dear Chottala, Khabor, Alapon Moderators:
Asslamualaikum.
Pls take my email ID (huahmed@yahoo.com) out of your mailing lists.
Last week I said something to one of my teacher (Mannan sir) which I shouldn't have said but forced to do so due to my consciousness. I was raised not to disrespect elders and let alone teachers. But dirty politics made us all dirty. Therefore, I rather not be part of it.
Thanks again for your understanding.
Dear Readers:
Assalamualaikum
Pls forgive me if I ever hurt you with my writings over the last 5/6 years. This is the very last mail I'm writing in these forums.
If you ever need anything from my end, pls do send me an email to the above mentioned email id. And as I said many times before, if you ever drop by in Toronto, do give me shout and enjoy some good Chittagonian food.
Thanks again.
Helal

From: Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:46 AM
Subject: [KHABOR] Re: [chottala.com] Trial of Ghulam Azam

 
You are right.
 
May Allah/Vagaban/Isshor help us to come to our senses.
 
We all clearly known and identified who are the Pakistani collaborators were. Now it is time for us to identify the Indian collaborators and let them face the similar fate as the Pakistani ones are facing.
The double standard in our society is, we hate Golam Azam for his anti-Bangladesh statement he made in abroad but we love Shahriar Kabir for his anti-Bangladesh statement he made abroad.
Thanks.
Helal
 
 
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: [chottala.com] Trial of Ghulam Azam

 
Dear Helal Ahmed,
Many thanks for your mails and reply to Dear Mannan/Muntasir sirs.

Abdul Mannan /Muntasir sirs are human beings. They need bread and butter to survive. The teachers at universities earn an insufficient amount which is not enough to pay the house rents these days let alone the meals and other expenses of the house hold necessities and the huge cost of the bringing up their children. As a poor nation we are deeply sorry that we failed to provide enough remuneration to our university teachers to lead an honourable life.

The points you raised here are understandable by any conscious citizen of today’s Bangladesh. Our respectable teachers also have these in their hearts. But they are helpless. They have to work among the ‘divided nation’ to earn their livelihood. They need to take a ‘side’ which pays enough to maintain their social status and family needs. Writing in Janakantha which is like a bulletin of Indian interest and established with huge Indian fund and stated printing from four different locations from the beginning helps them survive. This is the reality.  

In ‘return’ our honourable intellectuals keep ‘their chosen side’ happy by hiding some historical truths and ignoring some current and on-going corruptions, rape, tortures, undemocratic behaviour, violence of the ‘governor/contractor’. And they also bring more blessings towards them by supporting master’s/Indian hegemony towards Bangladesh. 
 
Aboul Mannan/Muntasir Sirs will never be able to answer your questions honestly and directly. They are highly paid by their employers to bury these historical truths to take the answers to their chosen side.   

These ‘Sirs’ never protest border killings by BSF, unequal and harmful Transits, Farakka and Tipaimukh Dams, pushing in Drugs(phensedyl etc. and arms) and so on. They think Tipaimukh Dam will control flood like Farakka is ‘controlling flood’ today in the northern part of Bangladesh.

They are teachers and in the last 3 years Chatra League insulted/tortured 80 teachers in our universities and colleges but they never protested. They think they are safe as they are in government side.

They are fathers of daughters but how can they keep silent when Chatra League cadres are raping and filming the rape of young girls like their daughters. They think they cannot recognise these act as ‘their pro-liberation government’ will be in trouble.

How can these teachers tolerate violence of Chatra League which result the closure of the educational institutes? They enjoy the vacations and work outside to increase earnings.

They are keeping silent Chatra League’s killings, extortion/Chadabaji, admission trade, trader grabbing, and what not. 

These teachers are told to see one side and strengthen the division at their master's cost.
 
Desh-Bondhu, 
'Desher Kotha Bolay'


From: Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com>

Subject: [KHABOR] Re: Trial of Ghulam Azam

 
Dear Mannan Sir:
Assalamaualikum. 

In our eyes, we don’t see much difference between Mr. Golam Azam and some of you. Mr. Azam sold his soul to Pakistan and You, Muntasir sir and few others sold your soul to India. That’s why Mr. Azam didn’t see anything wrong in Pakistan’s actions towards Bangladesh and you guys are doing to same when it comes to India. I’m sorry to say that, you all are rajakar’s but in different times.

Sir, our generation wants a fair and free war crime trial so that we can start re-building Bangladesh from truth nothing but truth. As i said earlier, war crime trail must go on with proper process so that at the end, Bangladesh can move forward beyond our war criminal and non-war criminal saga.

Sir, our generation also will refuse to accept a divided Bangladesh with so called pro-liberation and anti-liberation forces. Though, 1971’s anti-liberation forces are behaving more pro-liberation in 2012 and vice versa.

We want a free and fair trial because our nation was built on confusion and lies. It started on the very day of 16th December 1971. We still do not understand
why Pakistani army had to surrender to Indian Army in OUR independence war. 
Why our military leadership wasn’t able to attend the surrender ceremony?
Why we established a complete distorted martyred figure of our war? 
Who is the real declarer of independence? 
Was it Moulana Bhasani, Bongobondhu and Shahid Zia! 
I can go on and on.

People like you and Golam Azam are the root cause of today’s disarray of Bangladesh. As you people never allowed us to be ONE nation. You guys always divided us and took advantage of our ignorance.

But thank GOD you guys are not able to fool all the new generation of independent minds who can think and see what is going on in today’s Bangladesh. We figured out who is the REAL beneficiary of a DIVIDED nation. When the whole world including India and Pakistan going fwd with science and technology we are going back ward on science and technology and is becoming a big garments factory.
Thank you.   
Helal

 
 
From: Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:56 PM
Subject: Trial of Ghulam Azam

It seems that some people are shell shocked, disappointed and frustrated because of the arrest of Ghulam Azam. Why should someone who is 89 face such a humiliation they ask? Some questions the validity of ICT. Some wants his fair trial. Jamat has budgeted $25 million dollars initially, (this is documented)  to discredit this trial and wage a propaganda war within the country and internationally. There will be many beneficiaries of this big budget. Just for those interested below are two links of writings of former bureaucrat Mr. Waliur Rahman and Dr. Muntasir Mamoon, appearing in today's Daily Janakantha. Those interested may read it. I do not want any feedback nor any comments on it.

Warm wishes.

Mannan



http://www.dailyjanakantha.com/news_view.php?nc=16&dd=2012-01-13&ni=83113


http://www.dailyjanakantha.com/news_view.php?nc=16&dd=2012-01-13&ni=83112
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You are right.
 
May Allah/Vagaban/Isshor help us to come to our senses.
 
We all clearly known and identified who are the Pakistani collaborators were. Now it is time for us to identify the Indian collaborators and let them face the similar fate as the Pakistani ones are facing.
The double standard in our society is, we hate Golam Azam for his anti-Bangladesh statement he made in abroad but we love Shahriar Kabir for his anti-Bangladesh statement he made abroad.
Thanks.
Helal
 
 
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: [chottala.com] Trial of Ghulam Azam

 
Dear Helal Ahmed,
Many thanks for your mails and reply to Dear Mannan/Muntasir sirs.

Abdul Mannan /Muntasir sirs are human beings. They need bread and butter to survive. The teachers at universities earn an insufficient amount which is not enough to pay the house rents these days let alone the meals and other expenses of the house hold necessities and the huge cost of the bringing up their children. As a poor nation we are deeply sorry that we failed to provide enough remuneration to our university teachers to lead an honourable life.

The points you raised here are understandable by any conscious citizen of today’s Bangladesh. Our respectable teachers also have these in their hearts. But they are helpless. They have to work among the ‘divided nation’ to earn their livelihood. They need to take a ‘side’ which pays enough to maintain their social status and family needs. Writing in Janakantha which is like a bulletin of Indian interest and established with huge Indian fund and stated printing from four different locations from the beginning helps them survive. This is the reality.  

In ‘return’ our honourable intellectuals keep ‘their chosen side’ happy by hiding some historical truths and ignoring some current and on-going corruptions, rape, tortures, undemocratic behaviour, violence of the ‘governor/contractor’. And they also bring more blessings towards them by supporting master’s/Indian hegemony towards Bangladesh. 
 
Aboul Mannan/Muntasir Sirs will never be able to answer your questions honestly and directly. They are highly paid by their employers to bury these historical truths to take the answers to their chosen side.   

These ‘Sirs’ never protest border killings by BSF, unequal and harmful Transits, Farakka and Tipaimukh Dams, pushing in Drugs(phensedyl etc. and arms) and so on. They think Tipaimukh Dam will control flood like Farakka is ‘controlling flood’ today in the northern part of Bangladesh.

They are teachers and in the last 3 years Chatra League insulted/tortured 80 teachers in our universities and colleges but they never protested. They think they are safe as they are in government side.

They are fathers of daughters but how can they keep silent when Chatra League cadres are raping and filming the rape of young girls like their daughters. They think they cannot recognise these act as ‘their pro-liberation government’ will be in trouble.

How can these teachers tolerate violence of Chatra League which result the closure of the educational institutes? They enjoy the vacations and work outside to increase earnings.

They are keeping silent Chatra League’s killings, extortion/Chadabaji, admission trade, trader grabbing, and what not. 

These teachers are told to see one side and strengthen the division at their master's cost.
 
Desh-Bondhu, 
'Desher Kotha Bolay'


From: Helal Ahmed <huahmed@yahoo.com>

Subject: [KHABOR] Re: Trial of Ghulam Azam

 
Dear Mannan Sir:
Assalamaualikum. 

In our eyes, we don’t see much difference between Mr. Golam Azam and some of you. Mr. Azam sold his soul to Pakistan and You, Muntasir sir and few others sold your soul to India. That’s why Mr. Azam didn’t see anything wrong in Pakistan’s actions towards Bangladesh and you guys are doing to same when it comes to India. I’m sorry to say that, you all are rajakar’s but in different times.

Sir, our generation wants a fair and free war crime trial so that we can start re-building Bangladesh from truth nothing but truth. As i said earlier, war crime trail must go on with proper process so that at the end, Bangladesh can move forward beyond our war criminal and non-war criminal saga.

Sir, our generation also will refuse to accept a divided Bangladesh with so called pro-liberation and anti-liberation forces. Though, 1971’s anti-liberation forces are behaving more pro-liberation in 2012 and vice versa.

We want a free and fair trial because our nation was built on confusion and lies. It started on the very day of 16th December 1971. We still do not understand
why Pakistani army had to surrender to Indian Army in OUR independence war. 
Why our military leadership wasn’t able to attend the surrender ceremony?
Why we established a complete distorted martyred figure of our war? 
Who is the real declarer of independence? 
Was it Moulana Bhasani, Bongobondhu and Shahid Zia! 
I can go on and on.

People like you and Golam Azam are the root cause of today’s disarray of Bangladesh. As you people never allowed us to be ONE nation. You guys always divided us and took advantage of our ignorance.

But thank GOD you guys are not able to fool all the new generation of independent minds who can think and see what is going on in today’s Bangladesh. We figured out who is the REAL beneficiary of a DIVIDED nation. When the whole world including India and Pakistan going fwd with science and technology we are going back ward on science and technology and is becoming a big garments factory.
Thank you.   
Helal

 
 
From: Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:56 PM
Subject: Trial of Ghulam Azam

It seems that some people are shell shocked, disappointed and frustrated because of the arrest of Ghulam Azam. Why should someone who is 89 face such a humiliation they ask? Some questions the validity of ICT. Some wants his fair trial. Jamat has budgeted $25 million dollars initially, (this is documented)  to discredit this trial and wage a propaganda war within the country and internationally. There will be many beneficiaries of this big budget. Just for those interested below are two links of writings of former bureaucrat Mr. Waliur Rahman and Dr. Muntasir Mamoon, appearing in today's Daily Janakantha. Those interested may read it. I do not want any feedback nor any comments on it.

Warm wishes.

Mannan



http://www.dailyjanakantha.com/news_view.php?nc=16&dd=2012-01-13&ni=83113


http://www.dailyjanakantha.com/news_view.php?nc=16&dd=2012-01-13&ni=83112
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