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Sunday, September 20, 2009

Re: [chottala.com] Secularism in India - by dina khan.




India is a world top communal country.- i do agree , after israel
 

The test of patriotism is not a one-off event for anyone, let alone the political quarters, that once passed is passed for ever. It is rather a perpetual process, especially for the ruling political quarters that have to pass it every moment- Nurul Kabir , Editor , The NewAge


--- On Fri, 9/18/09, siraj uddowllah <siraj_58@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: siraj uddowllah <siraj_58@hotmail.com>
Subject: [chottala.com] Secularism in India - by dina khan.
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 2:15 PM

 
Dear dina khan,
Thanks a lot for your nice writings which is self explanatory regarding communalism and secularism in India. Probably I am unable to explain my viewpoint clearly. But your short concise writings give a good and clear conception of communalism and so called secularism in India. I like it. Regards.
Dowllah.
 
 
On Wed, 9/9/09, dina khan <dina30_khan@ yahoo.com> wrote:


From: dina khan <dina30_khan@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] FW: Secularism in India
To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 8:24 PM

 
It can be not be said that India is a pure secular country
The causes are  
I)                     after breaking Babri Musjid 
ii)                   After burning alive Muslim people
iii)                  After burning alive Christ people
iv)                  After burning alive horizons & untouchable people
There  were not taken any lawful action against those uncivilized breakers  & terrible human killers who are now such as Norendra Modi  Chief Minister of Gujrat Lal Krishna Advani the opposition leader & law maker of the  Indian National Assembly either they are in power of Indian Government or they are in Indian national assembly opposition leader.  Both are same.
Most of the people especially Muslims Christ & horizons in India are the poorest people in the world.
1)       They are not getting equal lawful justice
2)       They have no equal human right
3)       They are not getting equal. Human behaviors from the Government Administration.
4)       They are considered as either minority class people or treated as lower class people. & hated as untouchable people.
How can you say India is a secular country?
But
India is 
It can be not be said that India is a pure secular country
The causes are  
I)                     after breaking Babri Musjid 
ii)                   After burning alive Muslim people
iii)                  After burning alive Christ people
iv)                  After burning alive horizons & untouchable people
There  were not taken any lawful action against those uncivilized breakers  & terrible human killers who are now such as Norendra Modi  Chief Minister of Gujrat Lal Krishna Advani the opposition leader & law maker of the  Indian National Assembly either they are in power of Indian Government or they are in Indian national assembly opposition leader.  Both are same.
Most of the people especially Muslims Christ & horizons in India are the poorest people in the world.
1)       They are not getting equal lawful justice
2)       They have no equal human right
3)       They are not getting equal. Human behaviors from the Government Administration.
4)       They are considered as either minority class people or treated as lower class people. & hated as untouchable people.
How can you say India is secular country?
But
India is a world top communal country.

 

 

--- On Tue, 8/9/09, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com> wrote:


From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] FW: Secularism in India
To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com
Received: Tuesday, 8 September, 2009, 10:15 AM

 
What Mr. Dowllah forwarded is out and out narrow  & henious form of 
hindu communalism which is a phenomenon more appropriately known
as HINDUTVA ....There is no denying of the fact that menacing rise of
Hindutva fascist forces is undermining the relatively weak but sane secular
forces in Indian societry. The hindutva thrives on political opportunism,
 & communalism vis-à-vis social backwardness that is very much prevalent
in India.....
 
India is a land of 138,188,240 Muslims (13.4 % of it's total population according
to 2001 census] and majority of them are proud of being Indian citizens and
practice Islam freely without intimidation and live in a communally harmonious
atmosphere.. Free religious conversion from Hinduism to Islam is not very
uncommon in India.[the reverse is unthinkable in Pakistan or Bangladesh]
 
[ 15 People Convert to Islam in Mumbai *NEW*
Hindu Sister Accept Islam Live at Urdu Peace Conference By Zakir Naik
Listen to Dr. Zakir Naik's speech emphasizing Indian constitution very carefully
 
Each and every nation in the world has it's good, bad and ugly.
The rise of hundutva refects the menifestation of the UGLY side of
Indian society. The secular voices in India is fighting HINDUTVA menace
in every possible way ...... 
 
Mixing up Hundutva with secularism actually helps Hindutva and other
communal forces in South Asia.
 
FYI,  
The word 'secular' continues to be misrepresented by many  people in today's
Bangladesh. [see YouTube video:
বাংলাদেশ SECULARISM: Allama Sayeedi
]
 
It is wrongly assumed by many that 'SECULAR' is opposite of
'RELIGIOUS'. However, if anything, the opposite of  SECULAR is COMMUNAL,
while the opposite of the word RELIGIOUS is ATHEIST. The word SECULARISM
is not synonymous with ATHEISM. 
 
Above all, the  HINDUTVA IS COMMUNALISM NOT SECULARISM.
 
 
Syed Aslam
 
Note:
 
Muslims constitute just 13.4% of India's population. All of them, except a tiny minirity of 2 percent,
are proud of being an Indian. These truths and much more come to fore in the CNN-IBN-Hindustan Times
State of the Nation survey, conducted by the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies.
 
Muslims and commitment to Democracy
Against popular belief, all but two per cent of Muslims are actually ‘proud’ of being an Indian.
Hindu-Muslim relations in last 3-4 years
Only 13% Muslims feel that the Hindu-Muslim rift cannot be bridged while about the same number feel that it made no difference in the first place.

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