Mister Aminul Islam Raj
So, your statement "Sarmila Bose is one them who dreamt of an Independent country of Bangla speaking people not a prodesh" is wrong and out of order ......You have failed to provide any authentic reference to support your statement.... She was never connected with
any endeavour that supports the rights of Bangla speaking people or any other people.
In essence, she is acting as a protégé for the Paki military junta (Military Inc.
of Pakistan) .....
BTW, you are now asking me to contact Sarmila Bose. Did you contact her before you made the above statement in your last post?
In our times, the main source of information is internet ..... anyone can get a real overview on
her views and biased "research" with little effort from internet.....
No one is calling Sarmila Bose a razakar ... But, evidently her bias and support for hyenas of Pakistan is well known and explicit through her writings ........ The criminals of Pakistan are saluting her for her "inventions".
She has been defending the Pakistan army's attrocities of 1971 in occupied Bangladesh with an intention of white-washing their crimes ...No one (except few hidden pro-Pakistani defeatists) in Bangladesh, irrespective of any political party inclination for AL or BNP will support her efforts for undermining our Glorious War of Independence ....
Ms. Sharmila Bose in her paper entitled
"Losing the Victims: Problems of Using Women as Weapons in Recounting the Bangladesh War" paints a picture of the Pakistani military as a disciplined force that spared women and children. [she didn't mention about killing unarmed civilians which was the only expertise the
Pak army in 1971 Bangladesh has shown.....]
She writes:
"Pakistan Military officers fought hard. Many foreign correspondents speak well of their bravery. It is the bravery of a Muslim soldier that Indian Military got tough fight. These Pakistani Mard-e-Momin fought so hard that they had almost regained the control of East Pakistan from the dirty hands of Mukt-Bahini. When India saw this, She then started the military action which resulted in the fall of Dhaka........
. He (Mujib) was going to make Bangladesh part of India that he was killed timely by the Pakistani military officers (yes those Bengalis who never gave up allegiance to Pakistan. I stand in honor for them). ...... "
Do you approve this analysis by Sarmila Bose, Mister Md. Aminul Islam Raj ?
The "Hurrah"s for Samila Bose's biased "research" in Pakistan is understandable ....
But, I wonder why few people in Bangladesh, masquerading as patriolts are
so delighted while she is demeaning and lowering our people's war of independence
(1971) ????
Mister Aminul Islam Raj, You have asked
"why not the list of shaheeds of our war of liberation? Do u think it a matter of shame too? "
You are right on this .... Why there is no list of Shaheeds? Does Bangladesh Army has one,
which is the most organised force in our country? We even have a "Mukti Juddh" ministry...
Most of our political parties (in 4-party jote and 14-party jote) in all sides of aisles were in
power for last 40 years .... No one has prepared the list of shaheeds in our liberation war ..
[FYI, neither Ms Sarmila Bose nor the Fakistani elites agrees that it was our war of liberation . they call it Indian invasion : Indo-Pak war..... ]
PS:
We can always debate on the exact numbers, but the bottom line is:
in 1971 Pakistan Army committed Genocide and Mass-rape in occupied
Bangladesh ... Do you disagree ?
Thanks for your patience
Syed Aslam
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Md. Aminul Islam <aminul_islam_raj@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mr Aslam(is it ur real name?),for years i see your postings in groups.It seems you are a professional writer.It is also clear that you are on regorus studies on n about Sarmil bose.Pls contact her you will get all that u ask from me.Mr Aslam, u n ur gong can turn rajaker into muktijodha and muktijodha into rajaker.This time u will able to make sarmila Bose a rjaker.I went through article where her emotion about our liberation war and victory reveald.mr aslam ,u n ur gong r trying to distort the history of our war of liberation.We have our victory 40 years ago. But your attitude towards it is its a event of yesterday.so far we hear that around 2 lac women was raped during the war by pak army.but one shirin akhter in Tv talk shaw said thet itr is 4 lac. It is noted that there is no survey.so one can cite any figure.Pm Sk hasina said in the perliament that there was no list of women raped by pak army as it is a mater of shame for the women.Question arises why not the list of shaheeds of our war of liberation? Do u think it a matter of shame too?
From: Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 12:05:40 AM
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com; notun Bangladesh <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [notun_bangladesh] Re: [KHABOR] Re:Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th ......Mr Md. Aminul Islam Raj has resorted to a purely bullshit propaganda ....Where did he find "Sarmila Bose is one them who dreamt of an Independent country of Bangla speaking people" .......? Can Md. Aminul Islam Raj cite a single reference that supports Mr. Md. Aminul Islam Raj's contention .....As always Sarmila Bose (born July 4, 1959, Boston, Massachusetts) has been defending the Pakistan army's attrocities in 1971 occupied Bangladesh ......since early 2000s .....The main theme of her writing is to establish "courageous Pakarmy stand on the eastern front ..." and undermine our War of Liberation in every possible way through foul means" - Her writtings are full of factual errors ..."Sarmila Bose, says the Pakistan army personnel did not rape Bengali women ..."No way, Sarmila Bose has never wanted a real Independent Bangladesh or a dreamer of an Independent country of Bangla speaking people ...... The war mongers and the hyanas of Pakistan Army are very delighted to find a so-called researcher like Sarmila Bose ...... Many hidden pro-Pakistanis in Bangladesh who masquerade themselves as Partiotic Bangladeshi/real Bangladeshi are also delighted to find Sarmila Bose.BTW, Samila Bose is related to Sarat Chandra Bose who jointly with Husayan Shahid Shrawardy demanded Greater Bengal as a seperate political entity in 1946, but was opposed by both Muslim League and Hindu Mohashova and part of congress as well ....I wonder if the Bangladeshi bloggers who are trying to glorify Sarmil Bose really supports her version of history of our War of Independence ?????????????I would request Mr. Md. Aminul Islam Raj to do some homework before he makes the kind remark like " Sarmila Bose is one them who dreamt of an Independent country of Bangla speaking people not a prodesh" ....ThanksSyed Aslam
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Md. Aminul Islam <aminul_islam_raj@yahoo.com> wrote
Dear All,
Sarmila Bose is one them who dreamt of an Independent country of Bangla speaking people not a" prodesh" of india or a state very loyal to india.
Sayed Aslam is the name of a watchdog of the interests India and pro indians in Bangladesh,who is very much sincere and careful about his job.
As Sarmila Bose wants a real Independent Bangladesh pro indians in Bangladesh dislike her.
aminul islam To: khabor@yahoogroups.com; notun Bangladesh <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 1:04:31 AM
Subject: [KHABOR] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th ......
Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 1:04:31 AM
Subject: [KHABOR] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th ......
"Ms. Sharmila Bose in her paper entitled "Losing the Victims: Problems of Using Women as Weapons in Recounting the Bangladesh War paints a bright picture of the Pakistani military as a disciplined force that spared women and children.
She writes:
During my field research on several incidents in East Pakistan during 1971, Bangladeshi participants and eyewitnesses described battles, raids, massacres and executions, but told me that women were not harmed by the army in these events except by chance such as in crossfire. The pattern that emerged from these incidents was that the Pakistan Army targeted adult males while sparing women and children.
Ms. Sharmila Bose's main source of information is the Hamoodur Rahman commission was constituted by Pakistan Government to investigate the the military and political causes of the country's defeat in the 1971 war.
Ms Sarmila Bose satutes the Pakistan Army and declares in her writing that
"The courageous Pakistan Army stand on the eastern front"
One of her main contention is that there has been no mass-rape
of Bangalee women by the Pakistan Army .......
[FYI,
During 1971 mass rape of Bangladeshi women by the occupying Pakistani Army was a systematic official policy: Infamous General Niazi shamelessly defended the rapists by declaring : "You cannot expect a man to live, fight and die in East Pakistan and go to Jhelum for sex, would you?"
ref:
[Also see: http://www.dukandar.com/endgame.html ]
Pakistani soldiers had not only violated Bengali women on the spot; they abducted
tens of hundreds and held them by force in their military barracks for nightly use. The women were kept naked to prevent their suicide or escape. These rapes were systematic and pervasive and was a conscious army policy, planned by the Yahia Regime........
(more LATER)
Syed Aslam
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:43 PM, mahboob hossain <mahboob987@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Thank you everybody for your feeling for motherland. I also have seen the war of independence and my house was close to BDR. I was 10 years old then. Once (on 4th of December in 1971) I was about to kill by Pakistani army near Azimpur. What I want to tell that we should love our country and freedom fighters. But we should not distort the history. 3 million people died during the war is absurd. At that time there were 7.5 crore people in the country and if 3 million people were died, there would have shahid in every family. Some of my relatives including my brother were freedom fighter and I found only two persons of my maternal side relatives were killed by Pakistani army and none from paternal side.27, 000 women were raped this may be true,
I have heard about Sarmila Bose but did not have opportunity to read what she said. Can anybody help?
What I want to emphasize that too many people are doing business with the history of war of independence and claiming themselves freedom fighters. I am not politically biased but one thing I must say what I have seen after war of independence shocked me very much. People did the same crime like that of Pakistani army and rajakars and government practically did not take any action. AL people killed, raped and looted the properties of people. For this reason I found many freedom fighters burnt their certificates, What chatra league is doing is very much the activities like that of rajakars. Too many AL people are now grabbing rivers, lands of poor farmers and so on. Many poor farmers had to give up their lands because they could not pay 150 percent interest of joddar and mohajon. Grameen bank came forward to save them and it is largely successful with few exceptions but unfortunately Yunus was removed. Let us see which Awamu sycophants become MD of GB and allow looting of money of the poor.
You may tell BNP activists do the same, I do not disagree and I hate them as well but they do not brand themselves as sole agents of independence what AL does. In this way AL is insulting freedom fighters more than BNP.
Now many people using false certificate of freedom fighters to get job.
My question is that how long we will continue insulting freedom fighters
Mahboob Hossain
Dhaka
--- On Thu, 3/10/11, Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you everybody for your feeling for motherland. I also have seen the war of independence and my house was close to BDR. I was 10 years old then. Once (on 4th of December in 1971) I was about to kill by Pakistani army near Azimpur. What I want to tell that we should love our country and freedom fighters. But we should not distort the history. 3 million people died during the war is absurd. At that time there were 7.5 crore people in the country and if 3 million people were died, there would have shahid in every family. Some of my relatives including my brother were freedom fighter and I found only two persons of my maternal side relatives were killed by Pakistani army and none from paternal side.27, 000 women were raped this may be true,
I have heard about Sarmila Bose but did not have opportunity to read what she said. Can anybody help?
What I want to emphasize that too many people are doing business with the history of war of independence and claiming themselves freedom fighters. I am not politically biased but one thing I must say what I have seen after war of independence shocked me very much. People did the same crime like that of Pakistani army and rajakars and government practically did not take any action. AL people killed, raped and looted the properties of people. For this reason I found many freedom fighters burnt their certificates, What chatra league is doing is very much the activities like that of rajakars. Too many AL people are now grabbing rivers, lands of poor farmers and so on. Many poor farmers had to give up their lands because they could not pay 150 percent interest of joddar and mohajon. Grameen bank came forward to save them and it is largely successful with few exceptions but unfortunately Yunus was removed. Let us see which Awamu sycophants become MD of GB and allow looting of money of the poor.
You may tell BNP activists do the same, I do not disagree and I hate them as well but they do not brand themselves as sole agents of independence what AL does. In this way AL is insulting freedom fighters more than BNP.
Now many people using false certificate of freedom fighters to get job.
My question is that how long we will continue insulting freedom fighters
Mahboob Hossain
Dhaka
--- On Thu, 3/10/11, Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
Subject: [KHABOR] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Khobor" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, "notun Bangladesh" <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 9:09 AM
You have said:
Subject: [KHABOR] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Khobor" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, "notun Bangladesh" <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 9:09 AM
Mr. Helal
You have said:
"Pls accept my sincere apology if I hurt you with this mail."
Wah !!!!! What a pretention .....
You have already proved through your innuendeos who you are ..... and
where are you comming from ..... You tried your best to divert from the main
thread (protest against Sarmila Bose ) by mixing up issues...
It is not an isolated phenomenon that you are now getting congratulatory salutes
from well know quarters who masquerade themselves as patriots...........
[Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel .....]
The mass killing (genocide) and mass rape in 1971 was a official policy of the
Pakistani occupation regime ... and those were one the worst genocide and
mass-rape in human history ...... Do you want to white-wash the 1971-Pakistani
attrocities by disputing the numbers .... Is that your tactics to absolve the
worst criminals, (Pakistani occupation regime and the accessories/collaborators
viz. Al-Bodor/-Razaker-Al-shams gangs) of their guilts?
Undoubtly, Sarmila Bose is a distortionist and falsifier of history ...
She must be exposed and protested ....
In My Lai Massacre in Vietnam (1968) mass murder of unarmed 347–504 civilians.was conducted by an unit of the US Army.
Pakistan Army has conducted thousands of My Lai Ty Massacre in
Bangladesh during their occupation in 1971 as their official policy.. Most villages
and towns of Bangladesh have witnessed those mass-murders & mass-rapes.....!!!!!
Syed Aslam
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:56 PM, anis.ahmed@netzero.com <anis.ahmed@netzero.net> wrote:
Mr. Helal Ahmed:
You're a real Bangladeshi. I salute you for your true feelings and courageous voice for Bangladesh and for the people of Bangladesh. My hats off for your logical expressions without any fear of dangers from near or short distant enemies.
Thanks,
Anis Ahmed, Maryland
Assalamualikum Dear Dr. Nuran Nabi.
My name is Helal Ahmed and i born in 1970. I'm very proud of you as a living Freedom fighter as I'm proud of my Father-in-law and late father. You and my Father-in-law faced the bullet in the forefront and my late father fought the war in a different way. I wish I was born at that time to do the same. I understand your sentiment towards 1971.
What i don't understand is that in this forum, i do not see you or any other Freedom fighters are crying for Felani or thousands of innocent Bangladeshis are killed by Indian border force.
I guess you and some of the Freedom fighters fought the war against Pakistan not for Bangladesh. If you fought for Bangladesh, than i should have seen your anger against the Felani killer just the way you showed your anger towards Pakistani murderers.
Also, in our 1971 war, 3 million people didn't die. The mentioned number was a slip of tongue by Bongobondhu. And people are Bangladesh can't even talk about it as they might be labeled as Razakar. For the sake of new generation, it is your duty to tell the truth.
Pls accept my sincere apology if I hurt you with this mail. As a generation after 1970, I'm just tired of seeing Bangladeshis keep talking about old enemy and being mum of new enemy.
FYI, as you are, I also want the trial of 1971 war criminals. But I don't think our neighboring country want this issue to be resolved as this the only way to keep Bangladesh divided and let us in fighting. See, people like you and me, living in different countries, from completely different generations, still wasting our time to argue over something which should have been solved 40 years ago.
I'm very much in doubt that current AL government will complete the trial. After the five long years, they will say they have to come back to power again to finish the trial.
Thanks in advance for your understanding.
Helal
--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Subject: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: alapon@yahoogroups.com, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:42 PM
I would appreciate if you post this in your group
Subject: [Alapon] Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: alapon@yahoogroups.com, "Khabor Dot Com" <info@khabor.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:42 PM
I would appreciate if you post this in your group
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Subject: Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: mike.vandusen@wilsoncenter.org
From: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Subject: Protest against Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15th
To: mike.vandusen@wilsoncenter.org
Mr. Mike Van Dusen
Executive Vice President of the Woodrow Wilson Center for International Scholars
Dear Mr. Van Dusen,
It is with great dismay I tell you that you have organized an event with a controversial writer Sarmila Bose in the month of March which is the 40th anniversary of the beginning of Bangladesh genocide 1971 where 3 million people were killed, 200 thousand women were raped, 10 million people were forced to become refugees to lead a sub-human life during 9 months of the war..
These crimes against humanity are well documented including a book by USA Consul General in Dhaka Late Mr. Archer Blood and a report by Late Senator Edward Kennedy.
Sarmila Bose's book event on March 15 is an insult to the victims of Bangladesh genocide.
I am a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh liberation war and a witness to the crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators. I have written several books on Bangladesh liberation war. My latest book Bullets of '71- A Freedom Fighter's Story describes Bangladesh genocide committed by the Bangladesh war criminals. (See my website www.nurannabi.com to know more about Bangladesh genocide )
After 40 years, trial of the Bangladesh war criminals just has started. Since then Bangladesh war criminals and their supporters have started orchestrated campaign to misinform and mislead the world opinion regarding the extent of Bangladesh genocide. Sarmila Bose is a part of that grand scheme.
Sarmila Bose and others are promoting their hidden agenda in a very subtle way to protect the Bangladesh war criminals. Its irony that she is using organization like Woodrow Wilson Center in the USA capital to misguide the opinion maker.
You must stop this event which is a heinous design of the Bangladesh war criminals. You should allow to let people know the truth about Bangladesh war crimes which Ms Bose is trying to hide and protect the war criminals.
I am walling to present evidence for the crimes against humanity in Bangladesh in 1971 perpetrated by Pakistani military and their Bengali collaborators based on my new book.
I would appreciate if you invite me to the event to counter Ms. Bose's misleading conclusion and allow me tell the truth to the audience.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Regards,
Nuran Nabi, PhD
Councilman of Plainsboro Township, NJ
and a Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh Liberation war
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