Dear sirs,
Assalamu Alaikum.The trial of war criminals was in a small para of the AL manifesto. Voters in Bangladesh hardly read manifesto. It was not at all highlighted, hardly mentioned, as an issue in election speeches. Any body can see the newspapers of pre-election days.
Now a mountain is being made of a mole hill.
The rest is just old-style propaganda .
Shah Abdul Hannan
From: khabor@yahoogroups.com [mailto:khabor@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Syed_Aslam3
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 3:34 AM
To: Khobor; chottala@yahoogroups.com; Sonar Bangladesh
Subject: KHABOR A few important issues for our deep thinking .......
Mr. Izhar Ahmed (AKA S. Ayubi)
The question of trials of the Al-bodori death squad members and the
organizers of killing missions became a issue is due to public demand
before the last election .....it is an election mandate for BAL
.....and there is no statute of limitations on the trial of the killers and their leaders ....
The killer Jamaatis acted in their killing missions not for any personal
reason but with Political objectives ..... even during the last weeks
of the war in 1971 when the Jamaat (vis-a-vis it's Al-Bodor wing)
realized that deafeat was certain, they continued killing the innocent
civilians and Bangalee intelectuals with a long term political
objective.....
Call it "digg out murky past ", call it political, call moral or call it
national conscience the trial of the Al-Bodor Death Squad members
and it's organizers is a must ......
By your assertion "dig out the murky past", you are verily admitting
that the Jamaat's 1971-role was crimnal and murky .... you just
don't want their trial you want to keep the "murky past". hidden under
the rugs ....
In any case, as we all know :
"The past is never dead. It's not even past." ....
The killers and the families of the victims are still alive
right here in Bangladesh ......
As a silent onlooker of contemporay event, I can only
say that history has a very weird way of correcting itself ...
and that is what we see now... tomorrow will be a better
day for all of us ....
Syed Aslam
PS:The issue is trial of the killers not the exactly same
trial of the traitors ......and keep them separated ......
On 8/15/10, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:
PP3
My question is why were they not tried durin 1972 to 75 BAL administration. Why are present day BAL administration trying to dig out the murky past now? Isnt the motive to hit political opponent below the belt?
Ayubi
--- On Thu, 8/12/10, Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:From: Syed_Aslam3 <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] A few important issues for our deep thinking
To: notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 4:18 AM
Dear All
1. Jamaate Islami was the only political party in 1971 whose central
committe [Majlis-i-Shura] under the leadership of Gholam Azam, decided to organize a Killing squads viz. Al-Bodor Bahini. [Jamaat's Golam Azam, Nizami, Mujahid gang was at the helm of violent Death Squad & collaborators that was in "Active Duly" in the killing fields of 1971 Bangladesh ....]. Crimes against our nation and crimes agaist humanity were committed by Jamaat in the name of religion.
The Muslim League, Nezame Islami and few other splinter groups supported the integrity of Pakistan but didn't organize any armed Death Squad with a central party decision [although some of their members joined the razaker forces].
In 1971 Jamaate Islami was the only political group that had an killer wing Al-bodor and was engagged in killing of innocent civillians and various other crimes against humanity and war crimes in 1971.
Thus, by default, Jamaate Islami became the only political group that was engaged in criminal violence and accessory to the genocides of 1971.
Jamaate Islami is the Party of the Traitors (Gadders)... . and there
is no such thing as a Reformed Traitor .....Once a Gaddar, always
a Gaddar ......
2. The current govermnent was duly elected through a democratic
process and has the legitimate right to set up it's priorities and
course of actions : That is the law of the land.....
The current government is a government of the majority
and the majority must be granted ..... that is way our system works .... [obviously, the War Criminals will oppose the trial in their attempts to evade Justice by fair means or faul ....... ]
3. Putting signature in favor of the constitution or abstaining from
putting the signature on the constitution is a (and was a) part of the
due process and a constitutional right of the parliament/constitu tional assembly member. If Suronjit had denied putting his signature on the original 1972 constitution, how does that make him a criminal and under what law, Mr. Mokhter Ahmed?
You really sound silly when you say Suronjit "is great criminal and his crime against the constitution is ever greater than anyone. He should be tried for that."...
Your innuendo "Why Suronjet Sen was made the co-chair of the
constitution review committee?" is pure Nonsense & Grossly Fallacious and quite unbecoming for an academician
Please don't think that we Bangladeshis are fools and you can create
murky waters by throwing these kinds of falacious logic ......
BTW, do you personally approve the spirit of 1972 Bangladesh
Constitution?
And since when you have become such an over-zealous-fan
[a zealot] of Bongobondhu that you made you think,
any difference of opinion with Sheikh Mujib is a criminal
offence that demands capital punishment? (message #24255)
Do you really believe that? Or that is another facet of Jamaati
opportunism?
4. I am little skeptic about the idea of banning any political party just
based on it's ideology per se. However, all political parties must respect the constitution and operate within the bounds of the constitution.
The traitors and collaborators should not get any leeway in the name of democracy.
No one should be allowed to misuse religion and "religion-trading"
i.e use religion to mislead ordinary masses should not be permitted... ..
Any political party that has historical record of collaborating with the
Yahia-Tikka regime and was actively engaged in aiding and abetting the occupation regime as party and has organized armed Death Squads like Al-Bodor Bahini should not be allowed to function.
In Europe, Nazi Party is completely abolished and declared to
be illegal. This ban has remains in place in Germany and many
other European countries to the present day.
The Jamaate Islami's Anti-Bangladesh role and the
killing missions by it's armed Gestapo wing Al-Bodor Death
Squads makes this particular party nazi-equivalent in the
context of Bangladesh and our history .....
The operation of Jamaate Islami should be banned not
because it has a religious lebash, but for Jamaat's role in war
crimes, crimes against Bangladesh, crimes against humanity
including aiding and abetting genocides and greatest mass
rapes in human history.....
5. Why only "famous and seasoned politicians earlier" has to be
ministers ..." ?
As a matter of fact the ruling parties should always include
new faces in the cabinet which, in essence, may help to develop
that party's future leaderships. ....
Of course, the a minister must be competent to do his/her job,
else the party in power will suffer in the long run...
In a parliamentary democracy the selection of cabinet members
is a complex balancing act ....[region, gender, expertise,
popularity within the party, loyality etc. ...]
Posing a question like "Does not it imply that they were picked up
by a third party for their interests?" is utterly motivated and
perhaps with insidious intents .....
Syed Aslam
On 8/10/10, Mokhter Ahmad <mokhterahmad@ gmail.com> wrote:
Dear brothers and sisters!
We should think of the following issue before making any post in this popular blog:
1. Is war crime a sole responsibility of a particular political party? Are not there any war criminals in Awami League? I know many are there and in other political parties. Why then the sole target is a particular political party?
2. There is no consensus in Bangladesh about this trial. That particular party does have near about one crore vote bank, according to the estimate of EC. We voted 14 mohajot, which does not mean that we gave it a blank cheque to do anything. Before taking such a large-scale job, the govt. should seek referendum. A few papers and TV channels are not the sole standard to gauge people's feeling and perception in this case.
3. Why Suronjet Sen was made the co-chair of the constitution review committee? He was the man who denied putting his signature on the original 1972 constitution despite being repeatedly asked by Bangobondhu and Bangobondhu's signature there. He is great criminal and his crime against the constitution is ever greater than anyone. He should be tried for that.
4. Why should we allow the banning of any political party? Is politics a prerogative of any class? Is it banned in our model (?) countries like India and the West? In India many religion-based political parties are working like Shib Sena, BJP and hundred others. Even Christian Democratic Party (a religion-based party) is in power in Germany.
5. Who are the ministers ruling Bangladesh now? Were they any famous and seasoned politicians earlier? Are they capable to defend the dignity of our motherland? Why this peculiar pick-up, the boneless people who even do not know the political decorum? Who were behind this choice? Sheikh Hasina, the Prime Minister? I think, none will believe it that she would dare to deny other seasoned politicians any space in her cabinet. Does not it imply that they were picked up by a third party for their interests?
I think many other issues we do have in our front now. We should concentrate on those rather than being exploited by the interests of the political parties.
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Tuesday, August 17, 2010
[chottala.com] Re: KHABOR war crime issue was hardly highlighted in AL election speeches .......
Mr. S.A. Hannan
You said : "Voters in Bangladesh hardly read manifesto." Is that
the reason the Jamaat goess to the voters with religious LEBASH to
achieve it's objectives by the way of deceptions ........?
In any case you have admitted that "The trial of war criminals was in a
small para of the AL manifesto. ......." ....
Obviously, neither BNP nor Jamaat or any of their leaders
alerted the voters about the "fine prints" ....(or chose to
avoid the war crime issue for obvious reasons). The BNP didn't want
to side with war criminals before the election .....and Jamaat was
very cautious so that their 1971 crimes stay behind the veils assuming
that voters are fools...
In any case, voters gave their verdict if favor of the proponents of war
crime trials [Many analysts believe that Election in the month of
December was a factor for AL's victory ...]
And now, it is upto the ruling party and the parliament to
set their priorities on the trial of war criminals and other
national issues .... clearly, the process is underway .......
Syed Aslam
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:06 AM, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:
