RE: [chottala.com] Re: US training Pakistani forces to fight Taliban

Dear all chottala readers,

I quite appreciate what Mr. Nader Chowdhury explained about the motivation of chottala. Many started utilising this chottala as a platform, might be for their own interest as political propaganda. What American soldiers did with the Pakistani woman Dr. Afia Siddique, what concern we should have for that lady as Syed Aslam has been writing continuously in this column for a long time, rather creating irritation. It is Pakistan's own internal affairs. Morever what we came to know from the news media this prisoners collected in Pakistan as taliban or in the name of terrorists were handed over to the Americans by Pakistani authority themselves during President Pervez Musharraf's time as a token of goodwill gestures. 

Doullah,
Windsor, ON, Canada.
     

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To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
From: naderchowdhury@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:25:25 +0000
Subject: [chottala.com] Re: US training Pakistani forces to fight Taliban

Miru
Mr Syed Aslam using our Chottala for Pakistan propaganda machine. He
might have interest in Pakistan. But we dont have any interest to
listen pakistan or its story(we have enough with pakistan). Moreover
we dont like to use Chottala as anti american group.

Syed aslam should read chottala's home page for its description:

"The intention of this group is to meet or bring together the people
from all over the world who once studied, lived, have relatives,
merely interested or from Chittagong, Bangladesh! Chittagong is
famous for its natural beauty, rich history and its great people.

We want to be united and help each other everyway possible. We want
to leverage our united voice, our expertise, our experiences and our
ideas for a better future for Chittagong.

Thanks for your interest! & WELCOME!! "

Nader Chowdhury

--- In chottala@yahoogroups.com, "Syed Aslam" <Syed.Aslam3@...> wrote:
>
> US training Pakistani forces to fight Taliban
>
> - By STEPHEN GRAHAM, Associated Press Writer Stephen Graham,
Associated
> Press Writer – Fri Oct 24, 1:09 pm ET
>
> [image: The Pakistan Problem] Play Video
>
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> Minutes <http://news.yahoo.com/i/2833> – The Pakistan Problem
>
> - [image: Pakistan]
>
<http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Pakistan/ss/events/wl/081401pakistan>*
> Slideshow:* Pakistan
>
<http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Pakistan/ss/events/wl/081401pakistan>
> - [image: Taliban force phone network shutdown] Play Video
>
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> *Video:* Taliban force phone network shutdown
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> Reuters
<http://news.yahoo.com/i/2704;_ylt=AqdcZ0Mr7ZW3HF63QQ0EOFT9xg8F>
> - [image: 'Missiles' hit Pakistan school] Play Video
>
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> *Video:* 'Missiles' hit Pakistan school
>
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26cl=10346158%26lang=en>
> BBC
<http://news.yahoo.com/i/2919;_ylt=AtJA2v9_d8hdP4LeG09npQ79xg8F>
>
> [image: Pakistan's tribesmen hold remains of missile allegedly
fired by US
> forces on the] <http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Miran-Shah-Taliban-
Pakistan/photo//081023/481/32c2e1e36bbc4a3c9a5d72f67ef918ca//s:/ap/200
81024/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan_us_training_mission>
> *AP – Pakistan's tribesmen hold remains of missile allegedly fired
by US
> forces on the outskirts of Pakistan's …*
>
> ISLAMABAD, Pakistan – U.S. special forces have begun teaching a
Pakistani
> paramilitary unit how to fight the Taliban and al-Qaida, hoping to
> strengthen a key front-line force as violence surges on both sides
of the
> border with Afghanistan.
>
> The sensitive mission puts rare American boots on the ground in a
key
> theater in the war against extremist groups, but it risks fanning
anti-U.S.
> sentiment among Pakistani Muslims already angry over suspected CIA
missile
> attacks on militants in the same frontier region.
>
> "The American special forces failed in Afghanistan and Iraq," said
Ameerul
> Azim, an official in the hard-line Islamic party Jamaat-e-
Islami. "Those who
> failed everywhere cannot train our people."
>
> Despite such complaints, the training program comes as some tribes
in the
> frontier zone are setting up militias to help the Pakistani
government
> combat extremist movements. The new forces have been compared to
the Sunni
> Arab militias in Iraq that helped beat back the insurgency there.
>
> Still, the U.S. training program is reportedly smaller than
originally
> proposed and was delayed, apparently reflecting misgivings in
Pakistan's
> government about allowing U.S. troops on its territory.
>
> Its start has not been officially announced, but a Pakistani
military
> officer and a U.S. defense official told The Associated Press that
two to
> three dozen trainers arrived earlier this month.
>
> The Pakistani said the Americans had already begun training senior
personnel
> of the paramilitary Frontier Corps at an undisclosed location in
Pakistan's
> restive northwest, adjacent to Afghanistan. He said the course
included
> classroom and field exercises.
>
> The Pentagon official said the Americans would stay for a few
months. He
> said that it would likely be a one-time effort and that there were
no plans
> to send more trainers.
>
> Both agreed to discuss the program only if granted anonymity,
because
> details had not been made public.
>
> Asked about the program Thursday, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman
declined
> to give any specifics. But he contrasted the mission with much
larger U.S.
> training efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, where U.S. soldiers are
embedded
> with local units on the battlefield.
>
> "It is a train-the-trainer type of concept," Whitman said. "They
are not
> actually conducting operations."
>
> The Frontier Corps is a relic of British rule that was long a
poorly armed,
> untrained police force that the government hopes can be remade into
a potent
> unit capable of confronting Taliban militants.
>
> Its troopers are local men, in contrast to the army, which is
dominated by
> ethnic Punjabis and is viewed as an occupying force by the Pashtun
> tribesliving on both sides of the border. U.S. and Pakistani
officials
> argue that
> the corps' local knowledge and cultural sensitivities make it the
best tool
> in a battle where winning hearts and minds is crucial.
>
> The goal is that a strong Frontier Corps can take on most combat
duties,
> allowing a gradual pullback of the army that is hoped will ease
tensions in
> the northwest.
>
> The U.S. has poured some $10 billion into Pakistan since the then-
president,
> Gen. Pervez Musharraf, turned against his former Taliban allies in
> Afghanistan after the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Most of the money
has gone
> to the army, including the $70 million earmarked for the Frontier
Corps
> program.
>
> U.S. forces already trained Pakistan's Special Services Group, a
commando
> unit that crushed militants holding Islamabad's Red Mosque last
year.
> Washington also has supplied the helicopter gunships that are
seeing heavy
> use in army offensives in several Pakistani border regions.
>
> But with the war dragging in Afghanistan, U.S. lawmakers and
commentators
> have questioned why Pakistan still seems unable to eradicate
militant
> sanctuaries on its side of the border.
>
> "This thought has come pretty late in the day," Rasul Bakhsh Rais, a
> professor of political sciences, said of Pakistan's decision to let
the
> trainers in. "But still I don't think it is too late, given the
fact that
> this is going to be a very long war."
>
> With many Pakistanis accusing their army of fighting a proxy war
against its
> own citizens at Washington's behest, U.S. officials have said
Pakistan was
> reluctant to accept foreign training, but softened its stance in
the light
> of mounting losses.
>
> Musharraf, who was forced out of office earlier this year,
announced a plan
> in 2007 to build up the Frontier Corps so it could confront Taliban
> fighters.
>
> At the time, its troops had no body armor, few vehicles and an
arsenal of
> only aging rifles. With U.S. help, the corps has received several
more
> battalions, been armed with tanks and artillery and is now heavily
involved
> in fighting in the Bajur and Swat areas.
>
> American officials have said they are also supplying equipment such
as
> helmets, flak vests and night-vision goggles.
>
> "The hope is that the more trainers we train, the more effective
they will
> be in training their forces and the more capable forces will then
be able to
> take the fight to the militants in the tribal areas where they
operate,"
> Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.
>
> The training program has begun despite strains in Pakistani-U.S.
relations.
>
> Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, who replaced Musharraf as army chief,
and the
> former leader's successor as president, Asif Ali Zardari, have
maintained
> close ties with Washington. But they have condemned the recent U.S.
missile
> strikes, the latest of which killed nine people Thursday.
>
> Cooperation has also been chilled by an incident in June when U.S.
warplanes
> killed 11 Frontier Corps troopers at a border post. U.S. officials
said the
> action during a skirmish with militants was justified. Pakistan's
army
> insists no shots were fired from the post.
>
> U.S. officials suspect some Frontier Corps troops sympathize with
the
> Taliban and ignore militants sneaking though mountain passes into
> Afghanistan to attack U.S. and NATO troops.
>
> Pakistani officials agree the corps has problems, but analysts say
a better
> trained force is more likely to have the confidence to take on the
> militants. American officials also hope it will become a better
partner for
> cross-border cooperation.
>
> ___
>
> Associated Press writers Lolita Baldor in Washington and Munir
Ahmad in
> Islamabad contributed to this report.
>
>
> More on Pakistan
>
> - 4 Pakistanis arrested over Marriott blast
>
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081024/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan_arrests_1
>AP
> - Pakistan sacks coach Lawson
>
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081024/wl_sthasia_afp/cricketpaklawsons
ack_081024164257>
> AFP
> - Pakistani refugees complain of army and Taliban
>
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081024/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan_cost_of_w
ar_2>
> AP
>
> More...
>
> - *Video:* Suspected U.S. Missile Strike in Pakistan
>
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tq/**http%3A//cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/ynews%3Fch=4226714%
26cl=10343309%26lang=en>ABC
> News
<http://news.yahoo.com/i/2614;_ylt=Ari3WqI0Gea2ryvrp1j96639xg8F>
> - *Video:* Ancient Kashmir trade route re-opens
>
<http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AmXROiYhmCvTxVBeNnOXHOf9xg8F/SIG=12fs13f
mu/**http%3A//cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/ynews%3Fch=4226714%
26cl=10323156%26lang=en>
> BBC
<http://news.yahoo.com/i/2919;_ylt=AlkCN.zEsBBEx1ifU1Dndd79xg8F>
> - *Video:* Pakistan faces cash crisis
>
<http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AuvR49PZYQmNdmIM5cjcVOb9xg8F/SIG=12f3qk7
4i/**http%3A//cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/ynews%3Fch=4226714%
26cl=10323023%26lang=en>
> BBC
<http://news.yahoo.com/i/2919;_ylt=AglAL0dr9en45..Sck9o9lb9xg8F>
>
> *US training Pakistani forces to fight
>
Taliban*<http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5joMde9xmek_Irl52RkIJm5peox
9gD94104E00>
> The Associated Press - 3 hours ago
> ISLAMABAD, *Pakistan* (AP) — *US* special *forces* have begun
teaching a *
> Pakistani* paramilitary unit how to *fight* the *Taliban* and al-
Qaida,
> hoping to strengthen a *...*
> *US* Special *Forces Training Pakistani* Units:
> Report<http://www.newsroomamerica.com/world/story.php?id=435840>
> Newsroom America, New Zealand - 20 minutes ago
> *US* Special *Forces* troops are *training* a *Pakistani*
paramilitary unit
> how to better *fight* the *Taliban* and al Qaeda, in an attempt to
shore up
> an important *...*
>
> Thaindian.com<http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/us-
to-train-pak-troops-how-to-fight-out-taliban_100108630.html>
> '*US* desperate to help *Pakistan fight
> Taliban*'<http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008%5C10%
5C18%5Cstory_18-10-2008_pg1_7>
> Daily Times, Pakistan - Oct 17, 2008
> LAHORE: The *US* military begins a *training* effort inside
*Pakistan* this
> week that 'holds promise' as the *US* is desperate to help
*Pakistan fight
> Taliban* in the *...*
> *US* plan to help *Pakistan fight*
> insurgents<http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1017/p02s01-usfp.html>
> Christian
> Science Monitor
> *US* to train Pak troops how to *fight* out
> *Taliban*<http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/us-to-
train-pak-troops-how-to-fight-out-taliban_100108630.html>
> Thaindian.com
> *US* begins *training* mission in
>
*Pakistan*<http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/10/17/US_begins_training_m
ission_in_Pakistan/UPI-35721224288082/>
> United
> Press International
> all 244 news articles
> »<http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&gl=us&ned=us&ie=UTF-
8&ncl=1259879721>
>
> Calgary Herald<http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/story.html?
id=133da479-572e-4b6c-9ad0-6874deb7050a>
> INDIA-*PAKISTAN*: A River Runs Through
> It<http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/india/articles/20081024.aspx>
> Strategy Page - 10 hours ago
> October 19, 2008: Over the weekend, *Pakistani* troops moved into a
> large *Taliban
> training* camp in the hills surrounding the Swat valley. Over 60
*Taliban*died
> *...*
> *US* hits Haqqani Network in North
>
Waziristan<http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/10/us_hits_haqq
ani_netw.php>
> Long
> War Journal
> Strike On *Pakistan* Islamic School Kills
> 9<http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/23/world/main4540131.shtml>
> CBS
> News
> *Pakistan* to arm tribal
> militias<http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?
storyID=732570&category=REGION>
> Albany
> Times Union
> Metro Canada -
Vancouver<http://www.metronews.ca/vancouver/world/article/129866>
> all 813 news articles
> »<http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&gl=us&ned=us&ie=UTF-
8&ncl=1261422524>
> Al-Qaeda websites
>
attacked<http://www.opendemocracy.net/terrorism/article/security_brief
ings/231008>
> Open Democracy, UK - 9 hours ago
> According to Lieutenant-General Lloyd Austin, commander of *US*
combat *
> forces* in Iraq, the province was experiencing over twenty attacks
per week.
> *...*
>

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