[FutureOfBangladesh] Re: [ALOCHONA] Pakistan Army (Pvt) Ltd. - Businessmen at their ...

Dear Mr. Turkman,

 

Through the illogical, nonsense reply with incorrect information and facts, Sajjad has again strongly proved that he is a notorious liar as well as an illiterate!

 

There are hundreds of references on "unconditional surrender" of about 93,000 numbers of Pakistani on 16th December 1971 on the soil of Bangladesh, on the different news paper, books, web;

It was the first open surrender of a regular army and the second largest after World War II.

 

Brave freedom Fihgter Air Vice Marshals A.K. Khondoker, deputy chief of the Bangladesh liberation forces during the 1971 war (he was then made Air Chief of Bangladesh), represented the Mukhti Bahini at the surrender ceremony at the Race Course (now Suhrawardi Uddyan) on the 16th Decemebr 1971, as Coln Osamni, Chief of the Bangladesh liberation forces during the 1971, was not readily avalble and helicopter carrying him was shot & ambushed by Paki Army

 

The total number of uniformed personnel were about 80,000 (consist of Army & paramilitary, police) and about 12,000 were civilian. About 800 PAF and 1000 Pakistani Navy personnel also surrenderd. (Ref: The The Hamood-ur-Rahman Commission Report [1971] instituted by Pakistan Govt)

 

 

 

Even a Pakistani stamp was made by its Govt depicting the 90,000 POWs in Indian camps. This stamp was issued with the political aim of raising global awareness of the POW issue to help secure their release.

(PDF file is Attached)

 

Pakistan based author Tariq Ali writes, "Pakistan lost half its navy, a quarter of its airforce and a third of its army."

 

Still this Paki, we call them NaPaki (polluted, contaminated) liar denies and insists 65,000 number Paki troops (toatal) were in Bangladesh (the then East Pakistan), then how 90000 POW were ther?.

 

What a open lie!

 

Now if this liar denies, then what can we do?

 

So, any logical and rational person should not waste their time and merit by responding such garbage of a proven & traditional liar!

 

So, leave that proven & traditional liar. Unfortunately most of the NaPaki are same; and concentrate on other truth and facts!

 

Joy Bangla

 

 

(Your paki troops and supporters used to afraid this slogan more than any thing during 1971 war!)

 

Shafiqur Rahman Bhuiyan (ANU)
NEW ZEALAND.

Phone: 00-64-9-828 2435 (Res), 00-64-0274  500 277 (mobile)
E-mail: srbanunz@gmail.com

N.B.: If any one is offended by content of this e-mail, please ignore & delete this e-mail. I also request you to inform me by an e- mail - to delete your name from my contact list.

 

 

 

On 9/10/08, S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Mr. Bhuiyan, This is 2nd time this has been posted that there were 65,000 Pak Troops in East Pakistan. Please try to understand ...!    Its also possible that less than 65,000 Troops were arrested but 93,000 were released a few years later because they had given birth to more than 28,000, while they were in Indian Jail.    Posted by: "Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan" srbanunz@gmail.com Tue Sep 9, 2008 4:23 am (PDT) Mr. Sajjad, either you are a notorious liar or complete illiterate! You wrote, *"In 1971, **Pakistan** had only less than 65,000 troops in **East Pakistan* *".* This is a broad day lie. In 16th December, 1971 around 93,000 Paki troops had surrendered to Bangladesh - India joint command unconditionally and cowardly! (Still this is a world record) If there were only 65,000 troops then how 93,000 Paki troops surrendered? Do you know how many thousand Paki troops (starting from Colonel to ordinary SEPAI) were killed by our brave MUKTI BAHINI? Yes, I agree Paki troops are expert in killing unarmed - innocent civilian, like they killed innocent & unarmed Bangalee in Bangladesh, Balooch in Baluchistan, Pathan in NWFP! They are 'rat' against any regular army, even to Bangalee MUKTI BAHINI (90% of them were young man having only 4 to 8 weeks light and nominal training) no previous military training or experience In other place you wrote, *"Where small Pakistani army was already engaged with limited amunation. Without Air and Naval support and without amunation supply line"* Why? Bangladesh was mostly populated part (54% of total) of the then total Pakistan and most of the foreign exchanged were earned from the product of Bangladesh (Jute etc) and most of the meritorious and intelligent people of Pakistan were from Bangladesh part and we were superior to you in all good aspect! Then why there was "small army"? Then why there was no "Air and Naval support"? Then why there was no proper "ammunition supply"? Because most of the Paki people, ruler, and military are: - Liar - Killer - Rapist - Cheat - Immoral - Exploiter - Conspirator That is why we defeated you! We broke your Pakistan into pieces! We are now much better off than you and we are going forward (may be at less pace), but not going backward like you! So, leave us and do not intermingle with Bangladesh and Bangalee and Oil your own old and ruined machine Joy Bangla (Your paki troops and supporters used to afraid this slogan more than any thing during 1971 war!) Shafiqur Rahman Bhuiyan (ANU) NEW ZEALAND. Phone: 00-64-9-828 2435 (Res), 00-64-0274 500 277 (mobile) E-mail: srbanunz@gmail. com N.B.: If any one is offended by content of this e-mail, please ignore & delete this e-mail. I also request you to inform me by an e- mail - to delete your name from my contact list. On 9/9/08, Saj <SAJJAD_PAK@hotmail. com> wrote: > > Mr. Musa > > Be honest and read your post and then tell us who is taking drugs? > > Well, I can still go on with you. But you promise with me that you will not > runaway this time too. As you once did in the past. > > In 1971, Pakistan had only less than 65,000 troops in East Pakistan. This > small army need to fight on multiple ends at the same time. It had maintain > peace and law & order at any cost within the country. Then it had to take > down the armed personal, prepared by India and thirdly and most importantly > it had to handle the regular army of India. For your bad information, Mr. > Musa, Guerilla war is totally different than the regular war. Only a regular > armies capture enemies' territories. Guerilla warriors only hit and run. > Pakistan army did not lost in front of so called guerillas, anyway. It was > full fledge Indian invasion of East Pakistan, where they crossed the > international borders, entered in Pakistan's territories and made their > advancements towards the capital. Where small Pakistani army was already > engaged with limited amunation. Without Air and Naval support and without > amunation supply line, it is always impossible to carry on war at multiple > ends, at the same time. Technically, it could be the mis-management of > Pakistan of its military presence in East Pakistan. But it could never be > claimed as military victory either by India or Bangladesh. > > As far as Kargil is concern, It could only be a fool's view point, that > Pakistan Army lost in Kargil. Forget all other things and tell us that when > Kargil war started, how many war tax Pakistan had imposed on Pakistani > nation and how much war tax imposed by Indian government on indians? IF YOU > BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE SO RIGHT, THAN DO NOT TRY TO RUN AWAY FROM THIS SINGLE > QUESTION. > > Go and read newspapers of the days of Kargil war and list the number of > casualities on both sides and let us know. Additionally, and again for your > bad information, Mr. Musa, India lost many fighter jets in Kargil, while > Pakistan Air Force was totally out of this war, not a single flight by > Pakistan Air Force. What you say on this. > > It will always remain funny to you. Whenever will show you the truth you > will always say this. Don't worry. > > It is not necessary that Pakistanis and Russians engage in actual and face > to face war to determine which military is superior. I think you are taking > the example of China-India war in mind, where Chinese military beated like a > dog to the Indians. Am I right? In Afghanistan, Pakistan was fighting the > war of its own survival. The leadership of that time clearly looking USSR as > taking over Pakistan too. If they had allowed to consolidate thier military > presence in Afghanista. So Pakistan decided not to allow them to consolidate > in Afghanistan. The whole Guerilla war was planned and carried on by > Pakistani Intelligence Agencies and mainly under the command of General > Akhtar Abdur Rahman. Search his name in the google and find out by yourself. > This is not necessary that I waste my time to educate the hate monger like > you. > > And your great last para. Need proof? OK. here it is. Read the following > links and tell us that are these not solid enough for you to believe? Or I > need to send Pakistan's Army Chief at your homes with all CDs of Pakistani > movies to show you that Pakistan, unlike Indians, had never ever felt a need > to make movies like them to get more recruites. >

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