Re: [chottala.com] Fw: How many earths are there in the Universe? Happy Ramadan

 

 

Assalamualaikum

 

I'm perplexed.

 

When did anywhere in the Quran Allah azzawajalla says 'seven earths' ?

 

Can Mr Syed Mirza care to give me the verse ? I don't remember ever seeing this verse in the Quran.

 

With regards to 'sky', Mr Mirza should know that in the Quran, as far as I am aware, the word always used is 'samawat '  or its equivalents. Let Mr Mirza be known that the word 'samawat' and its equivalents do not mean sky as we understand it in English.

 

The word 'samawat' ( and its equivalent ) just means anything which is on top. For example, the roof of my bedroom is ' samawat' . If I'm riding in the bus, the roof of the bus is 'samawat'.

 

And I beg to differ with his claim that Quranic sciences do not gel with modern sciences. I am surprised, extremely, that he would make such a claim.

 

For example, the Quran says " The earth and the heavens were one unit of creation before We rent them asunder, and We created everything from water".  These two verses agree with current scientific thinking.

 

Another verse speaks of how Allah has created the universe and "We are expanding it" - this is consistent with what scientists now know about the universe and expansion.

 

In yet another verse, an exploding star is called 'warda' or rose and what do scientists call an exploding star - yes, the Rose Nebula because it looks like a rose.

 

Aren't Mr Mirza aware of these facts ?

 

 

Faris Abdat

 

 

 

 

Abu Hurairah and Ka'b Bin Malik (Allah be pleased with them) reported that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "The parable of a believer is that of a fresh and moist plant; the wind tilts it this way and that way; and so is the believer; he continues to be subject to affliction. And the parable of a hypocrite is that of a firm cedar tree; it does not shake, until it is uprooted all at once." (Al-Bukhari and Muslim) 
 

 

 

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From: sultan chowdhury

To: chottala group

Cc: Shamim Chowdhury

Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 1:47 AM

Subject: [chottala.com] Fw: How many earths are there in the Universe? Happy Ramadan

Very nicely said--Thanks Shamim Chowdhury!!  Let me wish you and all around the universe a Happy Ramadan and beginning of a joyous season -- May this season bring Peace, Prospertiy, and Friendship to all!!                                                                                               Sultan Chowdhury                                                                                               Maryland --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [khabor.com] How many earths are there in the Universe? To: khabor@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 6:14 PM Mr. Syed Mirza, I sometime wonders what you trying to attain with what you write! What conclusion you trying to draw by writing all these which I couldn't understand and probably most of the netters don't as well. I believe by doing what you doing will not be able to wrap up the thing but will go into winding up for infinite.   I have no problem with what you write; it is you who wants to write and writing, all I am saying is I am seeing no purpose other then hatred toward religion and Islam in particular for unseen and un deplorable reason beyond my imagination. I do not buy what you write and simply consider it as an act of a hate monger similar to when I reject Khatma Nabouat or that sort of fanatic calls for Ahmedia as none Muslim or close to Kafir. Fanatics of all side are the root cause of all problems. Same as you I also think that many things which now days are sold labeled with religion or Islam in particular is not what Islam is meant for and we must strive to eradicate what is not right but what you doing will bear no fruit but will destroy the quilt we are trying to build, a bond of colors, creed, ethnicity, social status and religion and so on. Mr. Syed Mirza, from your regular commentary I can tell without any thinking you do not find any religion in this earth suitable for you. I believe people without a bit of wisdom will come to the same dot and will share my views. Trust me, I have no problem with ones belief and I have no quarrel with you about what you believe in. I am simply stating my uncomplicated views about what I think. Before I go any further I like to confirm to you and all who reading this write-up that I am not claiming to be a person of wisdom. I am a very simple man with very little astuteness who believed in God and religion like billions of other inhabitants of this planet earth who believed in the same. You may call me stupid, unintelligent or thick head for believing in something that I can not prove right. But Mr. Mirza there are so many things in our life we put our trust on without any query, difficulty or proof, aren't we? I call my father with sincere affection without asking for proof of his father ship; will you call yourself a bonehead for doing that without having a scientific proof in your hand ? Will you wait until a genealogist confirms and links you to his gene to call him father? Mr. Mirza, my judgment on religion may sound hollow without any base on science but this is what I am and this is what you are. The difference between you and me is I am in peace with what I know but you are apparently fighting with what you know, Let us strive for the best from the ground we stand on today for the most glorious tomorrow for justice for equality, for fairness and for friendliness for all of mankind and other inhabitants surrounding us. Let's not judge anyone or anyone's belief from just our own narrow prospective but struggle to fit ourselves with others who are dissimilar to me. Not put up with a desire for them to change only, let us try to change ourselves so that we can feat with each others. Dear Mr. Syed Mirza, I am not soliciting for an angry reply from you but giving my hand for brother ship. There are many reasons where we stand together think of those not just the one where we differ. Sincerely yours Shamim Chowdhury Rockville, Maryland, USA ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= == --- In khabor@yahoogroups. com, "Syed Mirza" <mirza.syed@. ..> wrote: > > Yes, everything said in Koran fits only Islamic science, but these islamic > budoo sciences do not fit conventional science that this civilized world > know about. One has to be fanatic mullah to swallow these idiotic science in > Koran. Allah of course saw seven earths and seven skies by His mighty > Islamic eyes, even though, there is no such thing called sky. Sky is nothing > but a hollow space only which is seen as roof which Allah called canopy over > the fixed flat earth. And Islamic Allah saw seven of them by His might eyes. > Problem is Allah could not understand how day and night happens on earth! He > thought, day and night happens because of rotating Sun and Moon over the > fixed flat earth. Huh! > > SKM > > > > > > On 8/26/08, msa40@... msa40@... wrote: > > > > Kindly publish this short write up. Thanks. > > > > Mohammad Asghar > > > > In the Quran, Allah has said: > > > > 65:12: [Allah is He Who created seven Firmaments and of the earth a similar > > number. Through the midst of them (all) descends His Command: that ye may > > know that Allah has power over all things, and that Allah comprehends, all > > things in (His) Knowledge.] > > > > According to this verse, there are seven earths, as there are seven heavens > > or skies and all of them are inhabited. Maulana Mududi confirms this, while > > commenting on the verse. > > > > The questions are: are there seven earths, and inhabited by men and other > > living flora and fauna? Does science support this claim of the Quran? > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > It's only a deal if it's where *you* want to go. Find your travel deal * > > here* <http://information. travel.aol. com/deals? ncid=aoltrv00050 000000047>. > > > > > > >

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