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Thursday, May 8, 2008

[chottala.com] BAKSAL Executive & Central Committee: On Paranoid thoughts & ghost-phobia ...

BAKSAL Executive & Central Committee:
On Mr. Abid Bahar's Paranoid thoughts & ghost-phobia ...!
 
 
 
 
Mr Abid Bahar 
 
No one needs a credibility certificate from you .....
 
If you think the list of  BAKSAL Executive and Central Committee
is wrong, just prove it with you own version of history with proper
documentation and thereby establish your own credibility. I do not
care if you believe me or not .... Facts are facts ....: I am therefore,
becoming your target, because I am telling you the truths. I just see
fumbles in your post. What makes you so nervous .... truths are
comming out and unfounding all your propaganda hypothesis?
 
I don't have any competition or contradiction with you at the personal
level.So, please don't be too personal and indulge yourself in personal
attacks and drag others in your game plans.
 
You do have quite a few supporters and cohorts in this forum [your
maternal cousins]. Sure, I am a lone voice with no "atta boy" support
from the buddies.
  
In any case, I prefer to remain with my understandings of our history
in the context of international affairs until I see hard facts that prove
things differently.
 
Call me a Baxsal, call me a Noxal, call me an Indian Agent, call me a
Ghost, call me fraud, or even call me a shameless person, but you can
not refute the truths by calling names and using abusive words. The
name-calling technique always links a person, or idea, to a negative
symbol. I am sure you know that.  You can hide behind abusive personal
attacks and innuendeos, but by doing that  you only prove yourself to the
readers who really are.....!
 
Your writings are basically  opinionative, You have full rights to have
your own opinions. But, so far you have failed to prove anything supported
by historical data and therefore. resorted to personal attacks....
 
Why do you want to know :

                             What does someone do for living? 

                             Where did  someone go for studies" ?

 

Your "Mr. Ghost (Azad/ Aslam)" statement is your imagination.  

Your accusations and insuations are results of your paranoid

thoughts & ghost-phobia.
 

If you don't like my views, keep your discussion limited to

that ....place your counter-points, refute it... agree, disagree or
agree to disagree ... or just ignore it .... that would be
your civilized way ... leave things to the readers ...
 
You think  anyone who does  not agree with you or have a
different perspective than that of yours is a shameless, coward
Indian agent. .....  [some of your buddies, I mean your maternal
cousins think that way too !!!]
 
You said, I quote,  "I am communal-minded. This is the problem
with Muslims." 
 
For Your information, there are many communal Hindus too.
And most muslims in Bangladesh  are non-communal.
The Bangalee muslims, in general,  had been that way since
the beginning of spread of Islam in this land, last 800+ years.
 
However, like everywhere else, there are few opportunists
who thrive on communalism and racism.
 
I repeat Fundamentalists, Hindu & Muslim, help each
other .....they thrive on each other's extreemism .... Antagonists
are helpers ... Falsifying history has been a trend on all sides of
the aisle. The Islam-passand religion Marchants are not exceptions.
 
If you are guessing, keep guessing and imagining, I can not help
you on that .....Sorry for your sleepless nights, and stress disorders.
Next time, don't wait for my reply.
 
A. Rahim Azad
 

 

PS: Again, please do not send personal

e-mails or cc your mails to me.

 
  
On 5/7/08, abid bahar <abidbahar@yahoo.com> wrote:

Credibility of a person not a Ghost!

Abid Bahar

 

Mr. Ghost ( Azad/ Aslam):

The word credibility is important here. In fact, I have provided my CV to the present yahoo group. With a little self integrity, I have used only one name that you are familiar with. It surprises me when you have to use two names. Why I feel disgusted because, I hate to see a person using two names with a third real identity perhaps used to get some kind of real appreciation!.

 

 In Canada, we even call the 13 graders who cheat people like this as frauds. I don't know what you call this type of adults in Bangladesh. I think in English it would be the same expression! Here we see some of these cheats can speak and write in English some time can even visit libraries to copy other's works, but such works are not appreciated. These are seen as spoiled kids.

 

This type of behavior normally comes from family upbringing or teachers that failed to teach important values, such as honesty, integrity and respect.

 

You see what I mean? You still don't seem to understand why I am asking you to drop your two fake names.

 

Clearly, I don't want to deal with a ghost! Some people might even call you a shameless person, perhaps even a coward. Because even after several requests you continued writing and giving us your so-called historical facts about your lost glorious period. For sure with all these you coudn't be a messanger!

 

Yes, this is a yahoo group not an academic journal but you tend to take minor spelling errors/ typos by the contributors very seriously. What is that?

 

I am guessing that your name is Gose, but what is your first name? Why do you use Muslim name and why two? Who are you afraid of? If you with a little respect to yourself tell us, perhaps we will be able to help you. I know when I am asking you to be honest; you will say "I am communal-minded. This is the problem with Muslims." Of course this is your well-known dada expression which we are familiar with. If you are not still sure about my curisity is because the use of Muslim name by Indian agents as a trick is becoming very old these days. Of course using two Muslim names by you a clever trick is something very new. But that doesn't sound very clever to the readers. I want you to come clean and say your first name. This is a request!

 

By the way, yes I teach 13 graders, but I have done my research for my PhD on Bangladesh. So you have my name and you already know that I am a teacher and now you know my area of expertise which is Bangladesh and Burma.

 

Now, what is your first name?

What do you do for living?

Where did you do your studies?

 

I will be waiting for you answer!! 


Since I don't know your real name, I am addressing this to your conscience! Please explain it to him who lives deep inside you! Tell him that with a little learning cheating with two names is not nice at all!

 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----
From: AbdurRahim Azad <Arahim.azad@gmail.com>
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com; notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:03:22 AM
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Historical Record: BAKSAL Executive and Central Committee

Mr. Abid Bahar
 
I don't actually know, who you are. Wouldn't be a civilized request for you to
introduce yourself first, before you in ask the questions? Shouldn't the
question be applied to all other bloggers especially to Messers Salhuddin
Ayubi, Farooq Alamgir, Md. Mostafa Kamal et el? Get a short c.v. of
everyone, as you ask for?
 
Is the message is more important than the messenger to you?.
You may think that these Yahoogroups are Peer Reviewed Scholarly
Journals ...., I don't ....   
I either agree or disagree, if possible try to present my counter-points ..
whenever possible! Is not that a civilized way ......
 
Yes, just as you have said "A little learning is a dangerous thing" ...
and you are proving it everyday... Your "Ki Honu re Bah" attitude only
proves that "Mollar Dour Mosjid Pojjonto" .....
 
I Guarantee,  the list of Executive Committee and Central Committe
of BAKSAL that  I have provided is One Hundred Percent correct and
authentic. If you are such a great scholar and an authority on the
History of Bangladesh, why don't you prove it otherwise? 
 
You, as a self-proclaimed authority & researcher,   should have all
the info in your personal datebase: If not, go to the  Central Public
Library (Dhaka), it has all the back copies of the news papers published
from Dhaka including "Dhaka Prakash" the first Bangla weekly from
East Bengal [late 1800s]. You will find lots of real life historical data
by analyzing the news paper contents.
 
My post on list of BAKSAL Executive and Central Committee  does not
endorses the concepts of BAKSAL. It may help the unbiased readers
to understand the perspective from a historical point of view. You seem to
have major problem with that ... Why?
 
Truly opposing the return of dictatorship in all it's froms will always
be applauded. However, using it as a political ploy, as in your case,
must be exposed.
 
From your innuendoes and your futile efforts to relate un-connected
data and un-related events your are only proving yourself to be a person
whose main agenda is to promote communalism and social hatered
and catch fish in murky waters.
 
Fundamentalists [Hindu & Muslim] help each other .....they thrive on
each other's extreemism .... Antagonists are helpers ...
Falsifying history has been a trend on all sides of the aisle.
The Islam-passand religion Marchants are not exceptions.
 
FYI, I am not a CEGEP "professor" who teaches pre-university
       humanities to the 12th and 13th graders  and pretend to be an
       Oxford scholar ......I don't want to turn the debates into personal
       polemics and mudslinging at the personal level. I suspect, you are
       asking for that ? PLease, confirm.....
 
A.Rahim Azad
 
 
 
 
On 5/5/08, abid bahar <abidbahar@yahoo. com> wrote:

The gentleman who uses all kinds of names Azad, Aslam etc. even after several civilized requests neither apologized to the readers nor gave his real identity but now gives us historical records to prove his point or something we don't know.
The point is will you buy snake oil from a merchant with a false identity, forget about his apparently cooked up historical data? Like most petit historians, he didn't mention where from he obtained this list! We don't like to accept something from one's grand mother's wishful list of the names she remembered in her faltering memory. The grandmother might be pushing her grand agenda through her grand to work hard for the return of BAKSAL dictatorship. This is a scheme of the fundamentalist Hindu-Buddhist Oikho Porished's agenda to bring back the BAKSAL rule again. Dictatorship whoever likes it is absolutely unacceptable.

 
----- Original Message ----
From: AbdurRahim Azad <Arahim.azad@ gmail.com>
To: notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com; khabor <khabor@yahoogroups. com>; chottala@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2008 10:33:51 PM
Subject: [chottala.com] Historical Record: BKSAL Executive and Central Committee

Historical Record: BAKSAL Executive and Central Committee
[BAKSAL Period : June 6th 1976 to August 15th 1975 - 2 Months and 9 days]
 
 
On 6th June 1975 the organizational structure and the constitution of BKSAL was announced. That day names of 115 members central committee were announced. In that 115 members-- vice President, Prime Minister, speaker, deputy speaker, Ministers, deputy Ministers, state Ministers, 3 Chiefs of the army, navy and airforce, DG BDR, DG JRB and the secretaries of all the ministries were included.

The Executive Committee of BKSAL

(1) Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, (2) Sayed Nazrul Islam, (3) Mansoor Ali, (4) Khandakar Mushtaq Ahmed, (5) Abdul Hasnat Mohammad Kamruzzaman, (6) Abdul Malek Ukil, (7) Prof. Yusuf Ali, (8) Manaranjan Dhar, (9) Mohiuddin Ahmed, (10) Gazi Golam Mustafa, (11) Zillur Rahman, (12) Sheikh Fazlul Haq Moni, (13) Abdur Razzak.

List of the Central Committee of BKSAL

(1) Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, (2) Sayed Nazrul Islam, (3) Mansoor Ali, (4) Abdul Malik Ukil, (5) Khandakar Mushtaq Ahmad, (6) A.H.M Kamaruzzaman, (7) Mahmudullah, (8) Abdus Samad Azad, (9) Yusuf Ali, (10) Fani Bhushan Majumder, (11) Dr. Kamal Hussain, (12) Sohrab Hussain, (13) Abdul Mannan, (14) Abdur Rab Shernyabat, (15) Manaranjan Dhar, (16) Abdul Matin, (17) Asaduzzanan, (18) Korban Ali, (19) Dr. Azizul Rahman Mallik, (20) Dr. Mozzaffar Ahmad Choudhury, (21) Tofayel Ahmad, (22) Shah Moazzam Hossain, (23) Abdul Momen Talukder, (24) Dewan Farid Ganj, (25) Professor Nurul Islam Choudhry, (26) Taher uddin Thakur, (27) Moslemuddin Khan, (28) MD Nurul Islam Manju, (29) AKM Obaidur Rahman, (30) Dr. Khitish Chandra Mandal, (31) Reazuddin Ahmad, (32) M. Baitullah, (33) Rahul Quddus(Secretary) , (34) Zillur Rahman, (35) Mohiuddin Ahmad MP, (36) Sheikh Fazlul Haq Moin, (37) Abdur Razzaq, (38) Sheikh Shahidul Islam, (39) Anwar Choudhry, (40) Sajeda Choudhry, (41) Taslema Abed, (42) Abdur Rahim, (43) Abdul Awal, (44) Lutfur Rahman, (45) A.K. Muzibur Rahman, (46) Dr. Mofiz Choudhry, (47) Dr. Allauddin, (48) Dr. Ahsanul Haq, (49) Raushan Ali, (50) Azizur Rahman Akkas, (51) Sheikh Abdul Aziz, (52) Salahuddin Yusuf, (53) Michale Shushil Adhikari, (54) Kazi Abdul Hakim, (55) Mollah Jalaluddin, (56) Shamsuddin Mollah, (57) Gaur Chandra Bala, (58) Gazi Ghulam Mustafa, (59) Shamsul Haq, (60) Shamsuzzoha, (61) Rafiqueuddin Bhuiya, (62) Syed Ahmad, (63) Shamsur Rahman Khan, (64) Nurul Haq, (65) Kazi Zahurul Qayyum, (66) Capt.(Retd) Sujjat Ali, (67) M.R. Siddiqui, (68) MA Wahab, (69) Chittaranjan Sutar, (70) Sayeda Razia Banu, (71) Ataur Rahman Khan, (72) Khandakar Muhammad Illyas, (73) Mong Pru Saire, (74) Professor Muzzafar Ahmad, (75) Ataur Rahman, (76) Pir Habibur Rahman, (77) Sayeed Altaf Hussain, (78) Muhammad Farhad, (79) Motia Choudhury. (80) Hazi Danesh, (81) Taufiq Inam(Secretary) , (82) Nurul Islam(Secretary) , (83) Fayezuddin (Secretary), (84) Mahbubur Rahman(Secretary) , (85) Abdul Khaleque, (86) Muzibul Haq (Secretary), (87) Abdur Rahim(Secretary) , (88) Moinul Islam (Secretary), (89) Sayeeduzzaman( Secretary) , (90) Anisuzzaman( Secretary) , (91) Dr. A Sattar (Secretary), (92) M.A Samad(Secretary) , (93) Abu Tahir (Secretary), (94) Al Hossaini (Secretary), (95) Dr Tajul Hossain(Secretary) , (96) Motiur Rahman. Chairman. TCB, (97) Maj. Gen K.M. Safiullah, (98) Air Vice Marshal Khandakar, (99) Comodore M.H.Khan, (100) Maj Gen. Khalilur Rahman, (101) A.K. Naziruddin, (102) Dr. Abdul Matin Choudhury, (103) Dr.Mazharul Islam, (104) Dr.Sramul Haq, (105) ATM Syed Hossain, (106) Nurul Islam, (107) Dr. Nilima Ibrahim, (108) Dr. Nurul Islam PG Hospital, (109) Obaidul Haq Eiditor Observer, (110) Anwar Hossain Manju Editor Ittefaq, (111) Mizanur Rahman BPI, (112) Manawarul Islam, (113) Brig. A.M.S. Nuruzzaman DG Jatiyo Rakki Bahini, (114) Kamruzzaman teachers Association, (115) Dr. Mazhar Ali Kadri.
 
 
 


 

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