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Tuesday, February 19, 2008

[chottala.com] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Pak Army Launches Ghaznavi Missile

 

Mr. Md. Mostafa Kamal

 

Where did you find that I was blaming the innocent people of

Pakistan? The ordinary  people of Pakistan are just like people of any

other country …they are honest and simple minded (and hard

working too). The elites and ruling junta of Pakistan lacks far sight

and they don't understand the foot steps of history. They have mostly

used religion to achieve their own narrow interest.

 

Julfi Bhutto's personal ambition definitely accelerated the breakup of

Pakistan, but he was definitely not the main culprit behind 1971's

Genocide in Bangladesh.

 

The main perpetrator behind 1971 Genocide in Bangladesh is

the Pakistan military hierarchy, the successors of Field

Marshal Mohammad Ayub  Khan.The Islam-passand ideology of

Pakistan also played a role.

 

On February 22, 1971 the generals in West Pakistan took a decision

to crush the democratic forces in Bangladesh (then East Pakistan)

and the supporters of Mujib. It was approved by the ruling

elites of Pakistan,  from the very beginning, that a campaign of

genocide would be necessary to eradicate the threat to their power: 

"Kill three million of them," said President Yahya Khan at the

February conference of the officers, "and the rest will eat out

of our hands." (Robert Payne, Massacre [1972], p. 50.) On March 25

the genocide was  launched  ........ Anti-people militarism still exist in

Pakistan    

 

Except for tiny section of progressive intelligentsia, most Pakistanis

don't accept the fact that Pakistan was at fault for the break up and

genocide of  1971. They still think Bangladeshis were Gaddars ....

traitors .... You may be right on your assertion that  ordinary "People

were lack of correct information & huge miss-wrong information

around them." ...... this is still continuing .....continuing in every front

 

.....As I have said before, most things in Pakistan are done by the

way of deception... the real victim is the ordinary masses of Pakistan......

 

You have mentioned:  "Gradually they accept it. But the PPP & late

Benajir Bhutto did not accept it." If the people of Pakistan had

accepted their fault as a nation, they would have apologized to

people of Bangladesh through a resolution in their National parliament.

37 years have passed, we haven't seen any major  political party or any

grass-root mass organization has even admitted  the crime their nation

had committed. They still think that except for  few "pan-Islamist

intellectuals" like yourself, all other Bangladeshis are

 "Dalals of India."

 

I admit, I have many problems: but your statement "Your

problem is you're jealous of Pakistan" is totally wrong and

obnoxious....this has hurt my perception of yourself as a dignified

intellectual with some integrity. That was basically a very cheap

slogan mongering in your part. 

 

In any case, what is so good about Pakistan that you cherish so much?

What is there to be jealous of Pakistan? Rather, I am worried about the

fate of ordinary people of Pakistan, the ordinary masses, the innocent

devout moslems, the Baluchis, the Sindhis, Pakhtuns, the Mohajirs, and

even the rural onion-chapati eating Punjabis ...... 

 

The 1971 Bangladesh Liberation war was not a result of ethnic rivalry

as many of us  would like to portray.   I was it was essentially a fight

against an occupation regime representing an oligarchy, a ruling elite

that wanted to maintain it's hegemony on the political power structure

of Pakistan. The State of Pakistan broke into two pieces, but the

Junta was the winner, it kept grip it's on the remaining Pakistan

even stronger than ever before. As a result, a deep rooted &

opportunistic Military Economy flourished in Pakistan. Dr. Ayesha's

recent book Military Inc. focuses on the economic empire that has

been built up by the arm forces in Pakistan, The Milbus or the military

economy where the profits accrue, without any accountability, to

some individuals in the top echelon of the army, navy and air force.

 

Finally, I regret to say that you have shown a very creative way

of justifying the atrocities of Pakistan in 1971 through your

innuendeos. The Pakistan by itself is a phenomenon that

necessiates a thorow analysis and understanding: This

was not an accident that 1971 happened ....The top echelon

of Pakistan seems have forgotten the lessons learned during

their "reign" of Bangladesh .... the same ruling class attitude

combined with opportunism & heavy-handedness that broke

Pakistan still exists. That's what makes me concerned about

the ultimate disaster that's waiting to happen. Just as before,

the causes are still internal, stock pile atom-bombs or Gaznavi

Missiles would not save this nation from it's ultimate collaspe.

These are merely tools to deceive their own people. Only thing

that can save Pakistan is to trust its own people, nor heavy

military built up.

 

I know, that the lovers of the Milbus of Pakistan will not agree

with me, I agree to disagree with them.

 

By the way, the timing of  Launching of Ghaznavi Missile  suggets

that it was a show-off to motivate the ordinary voters in PML-Quaid's

favor, but Allah the almighty had some thing else in mind. It didn't seem

to have worked........

 

Syed Aslam

 
On 2/19/08, Md. Mostafa Kamal <mmk3k@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mr. Aslam,
 
Please see the link bellow
 
 
There you will see GDP (real) growth rate there the North Korea (1%) in the 197 position where Pakistan (6.5%) is 53. N. Korea's GDP 22 billion (85th) & Pakistan 503 billion (26th).
 
 
 
 
North Korea where 2 million people facing hunger problem the country is now capable of Nuclear weapons & also developed the ICBM. So if they invest their money to build up for the military purpose so why Pakistan can not?
 
Julfiker Ali Bhutto the culprit behind 1971's genocide, which doesn't mean entire x-West Pakistanis were responsible for killing, rape etc. People were lack of correct information & huge miss-wrong information arround them. So it is hardly to blame the most innocent people of Pakistan. Gradually they accept it. But the PPP & late Benajir Bhutto did not accept it.
 
Your problem is you're jealous of Pakistan. Where ever it gains success & good things you simply can not accept it. Like the Indians you are also hate Pakistan comprehensively. In 1939-1945 Germany killed & tortured millions of people in Ploand, France, Netherlands, Belgium etc. But look they are all now united with Germany for future economical world. So stop hating Pakistan in all way.
 
Thank You All,
 
Md. Mostafa Kamal.
 
 
 

Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
Pak Army Launches Ghaznavi Missile - Musharraff's Election stunt !
 
History is on the march .... Pakistan is sliding the down hill .....
It has already proven itself to be failed state ....
 
"No power on earth could break Pakistan, because Pakistan has
Divine blessings  .."    Ha! Ha!     That was precisely what  your father was
saying 37 years ago ..... Oh yeah, "Pakistan is not a house of cards",
and Denial 'Aint Just a River In Egypt., it runs though Pakistan
as well ......
 
Where were the Muslim brothers like you, when the FakistanArmy
was killing innocent moslems civilians indiscriminantly and raping
moslem women to keep the Pakistan from disintegrating.
 
If Pakistan was really  moslem country many things like
could never have happened ....For you guys Islam is just a cover.
 
Your Military incorporated and your ruling elites are deceiving
you in the name of Islam ....Pakistan's worthless military
buildup [Atomic weapons and Ballistic Missiles] is only
to divert your attention from the real problem your society.
These are being done in Pakistan by the way of deception.
 
What you see in your beloved Pakistan is a "Tiger",
without realising that it is made of paper ....
As I have said before, your Islamic Republic Of Pakistan
will crack from inside ..... history will repeat itself from
within .....
Bravo for your ardently patriotic stunt...... As always,
"Patriotism, sir, is the last resort of scoundrels," [Dr. Johnson]
 
Syed Aslam
 
On 2/18/08,
 
 
on 02/10/2008 javediqbalkaleem <javediqbalkaleem@yahoo.com> wrote:

At one place Mr Aslam says Pakistan will disintegrate and at
other he quotes the saying "man proposes but God disposes". That is
precisely what is going to happen. No power on earth could break
Pakistan, because Pakistan has Divine blessings. Despite all attempts
by enemies like India, USSR and finally USA, Pakistan has survived and
will stay till end of time Insha Allah. USSR was disintegrated facing
Pakistan in the battle ground of Afghanistan and America has broke
financially. No power on earth can fight Almighty Allah.

But I am sad for you, Mr Aslam. Having a Muslim name you think ill
of a Muslim nation, for which you will have to be accountable before
God. Pakistan is not a house of cards. Every single citizen will fight
for the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Pakistan. When
America failed to defeat 15 Million strong Afghanistan and 35
Million strong Iraq, how can it defeat 165 Million strong Pakistan
armed with Atomic weapons and Ballistic Missiles. We have a right to
preempt any atomic attack on Pakistan by hitting back at Israel, which
is in our reach and which cannot bear even one Bomb. So better talk
sense, instead of toeing the line of your Hindu and Jew bosses.

Javed Iqbal Kaleem

 



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