[chottala.com] Imagine A World Without Islam! - Graham Fuller, former Vice-Chairman of CIA

Attention

Mr Fakhruddin 's CTG, the non political care taker Government  backed by  the  members  of country's non political care taker party 97% of 150 millions Bangladeshi people is requested to study the nonsense activities  created by the so called students  activits in the education area for lawful law making action...

 

This is a great nonsense example of the country's  nonsense politicians for destroying the country's academic atmosphere in the educational area  which is preventing very painfully for creating efficient educated leaders by making their respective students wing with the illiterate youth in the name of doing nasty student party politics.

 

CTG needs to make rules for banning student's party politics in the educational area. 

CTG also needs to make rules for the persons who want to contest local body election can not do party politics.

Rules also need to make any body can not contest MP election before 3 years after joining any political party politics

 

Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:

These fifth columists you have mentioned are the enemy
of the people. It is time to expose them and their
intentions and our people must know as to who their
enemies are and who their friends are.

Slahuddin Ayubi
--- Faruque Alamgir wrote:

> Dera friend Abu Nabhan
>
> Thank you and thank you for posting a very
> informative treatise by a non-muslim about the rewal
> and main culprits of Sucide bombers. These vile
> character are now on the "Jaan" of Bangladesh" to
> taint and colour it as a extremists, fundementalist
> country and they are being assisted by our big
> political party like Awami League(BAL) and it's
> chamchas like menon,inu,bhunu ,maleka ect. They
> while talking to the press foreign dignitaries their
> second dialogue is Bangladesh is turning to
> ........
> These bloody fools traitors do neither read nor
> see or intentinally overlooks the atrocities caused
> by the "PEACE LOVING BJP/SHIB SENA/RSS activists
> resulting in deaths to thousands and thousands of
> Muslims/Christian and dalits.
>
> The so-called secularsshould read and preseve it
> in their mind for use as reference while talking
> about terrorism globally.
>
> Faruque Alamgir
>
> Abu Nabhan wrote:
>
> "Jewish guerrillas used terrorism against the
> British in Palestine. Sri Lankan Hindu Tamil
> "Tigers" invented the art of the suicide vest and
> for more than a decade led the world in the use of
> suicide bombings--including the assassination of
> Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi. Greek
> terrorists carried out assassination operations
> against U.S. officials in Athens. Organized Sikh
> terrorism killed Indira Gandhi, spread havoc in
> India, established an overseas base in Canada, and
> brought down an Air India flight over the Atlantic.
> Macedonian terrorists were widely feared all across
> the Balkans on the eve of World War I. Dozens of
> major assassinations in the late 19th and early 20th
> centuries were carried out by European and American
> "anarchists," sowing collective fear. The Irish
> Republican Army employed brutally effective
> terrorism against the British for decades, as did
> communist guerrillas and terrorists in Vietnam
> against Americans, communist Malayans
> against British soldiers in the 1950s, Mau-Mau
> terrorists against British officers in Kenya --the
> list goes on. It doesn't take a Muslim to commit
> terrorism."
> "According to Europol, 498 terrorist attacks
> took place in the European Union in 2006. Of these,
> 424 were perpetrated by separatist groups, 55 by
> left-wing extremists, and 18 by various other
> terrorists. Only 1 was carried out by Islamists."
> "Horrors of the 20th century came almost
> exclusively from strictly secular regimes: Leopold
> II of Belgium in the Congo, Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin
> and Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot. It was Europeans who
> visited their "world wars" twice upon the rest of
> the world—two devastating global conflicts with no
> remote parallels in Islamic history"
> Graham Fuller, a former Vice-Chairman of the
> National Intelligence Council at the CIA in charge
> of long-range strategic forecasting and currently a
> professor of history at Simon Fraser University in
> Vancouver, British Columbia (Canada).
>
> Imagine A World Without Islam!
>
> 17 January, 2008
> Countercurrents.org
> http://www.countercurrents.org/ghazali170108.htm
>
> Take away Islam, and the world would still be
> left with the main forces that drive today's
> conflicts, including colonialism, cross-national
> ideologies, ethnic conflicts and terrorism, says
> Graham Fuller, a former Vice-Chairman of the
> National Intelligence Council at the CIA in charge
> of long-range strategic forecasting and currently a
> professor of history at Simon Fraser University in
> Vancouver, British Columbia (Canada).
> In his article entitled A World Without Islam,
> published in Foreign Policy, Fuller believes that
> given our intense current focus on terrorism, war,
> and rampant anti-Americanism it's vital to
> understand the true sources of these crises. He
> poses a question, is Islam the source of the
> problem or does it tend to lie with other less
> obvious and deeper factors?
> Fuller presents his thoughts on Islam in an
> extended game of "what if." What if Islam had never
> arisen in the Middle East? What if there had never
> been a Prophet Mohammed, no saga of the spread of
> Islam across vast parts of the Middle East, Asia,
> and Africa? Would there still be violent clashes
> between the West and that part of the world? Would
> the Middle East be more peaceful? How different
> might the character of East-West relations be?
> Fuller ponders a litany of history's major
> battles and events to drive home his message that
> while Islam might be a convenient culprit, but
> global strife, past and present, can't be blamed on
> any one religion. Europeans would still have wanted
> the spoils of the Middle East and launched the
> Crusades albeit under a different banner. "After
> all, what were the Crusades if not a Western
> adventure driven primarily by political, social,
> and economic needs? The banner of Christianity was
> little more than a potent symbol, a rallying cry to
> bless the more secular urges of powerful Europeans.
> In fact, the particular religion of the natives
> never figured highly in the West's imperial push
> across the globe. Europe may have spoken
> upliftingly about bringing "Christian values to the
> natives," but the patent goal was to establish
> colonial outposts as sources of wealth for the
> metropole and bases for Western power projection."
>
> And so it's unlikely that Christian inhabitants of
> the Middle East would have welcomed the stream of
> European fleets and their merchants backed by
> Western guns, he says adding that Imperialism would
> have prospered in the region's complex ethnic
> mosaic--the raw materials for the old game of divide
> and rule. And Europeans still would have installed
> the same pliable local rulers to accommodate their
> needs. We doublespeak about promoting democracy in
> the Middle East as we back autocratic, despotic and
> undemocratic client regimes there.
>
> On the U.S. occupation of Iraq, he says that it
> would not have been welcome by Iraqis even if they
> were Christian. Fuller points out that the United
> States did not overthrow Saddam Hussein, an
> intensely nationalist and secular leader, because he
> was Muslim and other Arab peoples would still have
> supported the Iraqi Arabs in their trauma of
> occupation. "Nowhere do people welcome foreign
> occupation and the killing of their citizens at the
> hands of foreign troops. Indeed, groups threatened
> by such outside forces invariably cast about for
> appropriate ideologies to justify and glorify their
> resistance struggle. Religion is one such
> ideology."
>
> The West still would have tried various ways to get
> control of oil-rich areas, according to Fuller. But
> Middle Eastern Christians would not have welcomed
> imperial Western oil companies, backed by their
> European vice-regents, diplomats, intelligence
> agents, and armies, any more than Muslims did. Look
> at the long history of Latin American reactions to
> American domination of their oil, economics, and
> politics. The Middle East would have been equally
> keen to create nationalist anti-colonial movements
> to wrest control of their own soil, markets,
> sovereignty, and destiny from foreign grip--just
> like anti-colonial struggles in Hindu India,
> Confucian China, Buddhist Vietnam, and a Christian
> and animist Africa.
>
> On the current Israeli-Palestinian problem, Fuller
> believes that Jews would have still sought a
> homeland outside Europe and the Zionist movement
> would still have emerged and sought a base in
> Palestine even if the Middle East was Christian.
> Why, because, he explains, it was Christians who
> shamelessly persecuted Jews for more than a
> millennium, culminating in the Holocaust. These
> horrific examples of anti-Semitism were firmly
> rooted in Western Christian lands and culture, he
> says. "And the new Jewish state would still have
> dislodged the same 750,000 Arab natives of
> Palestine from their lands even if they had been
> Christian--and indeed some of them were. Would not
> these Arab Palestinians have fought to protect or
> regain their own land?"
>
> The Israeli-Palestinian problem remains at heart a
> national, ethnic, and territorial conflict, only
> recently bolstered by religious slogans, Fuller
> said adding that we should not forget that Arab
> Christians played a major role in the early
> emergence of the whole Arab nationalist movement in
> the Middle East. He recalls that the ideological
> founder of the first pan-Arab Baath party, Michel
> Aflaq, was a Sorbonne-educated Syrian Christian.
> On blaming Islam for current violence and
> terrorism, Fuller echoes Robert Pape's argument
> about the strategic, social and personal motivations
> work together to encourage suicide terrorism. Pape,
> in his book Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of
> Suicide Terrorism, argues that nationalism and
> religious difference between the rebels and a
> dominant democratic state are the main conditions
> under which the "alien" occupation of a community's
> homeland is likely to lead to a campaign of suicide
> terrorism. He finds that religion plays a smaller
> part
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